My Night at a Faith Healing Service

This is a guest post by Michelle. Michelle was raised Lutheran, attended a Christian college, and graduated as an agnostic. She now lives in Oswego, IL.

Andrew Wommack is a Southern pastor with a worldwide ministry based in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Like other televangelists, he preaches the “health and wealth” prosperity gospel. He doesn’t label himself with any denomination, but you might think of him as Pentecostal due to his emphases on healing and speaking in tongues. Also, like other televangelists, some Christians denounce him as a false teacher and heretic, while others welcome his plain-spoken style and focus on the Bible.

My family loves Wommack. They watch his show almost daily.

One family member has multiple myeloma (a form of cancer) and is especially interested in faith healing. (Never a good mix.) Out of curiosity, I went with a small group of relatives to Wommack’s Chicago Gospel Truth Seminar this past weekend. The conference lasted for three days but we only went to one evening service. It took place at the classy Weston Hotel in Lombard, a western suburb of Chicago. At least 1,000 people came to the free seminar the night we attended, filling the hotel ballroom near its full capacity.

The foyer was lined with display booths selling books, CDs, and DVDs. Stacks of books showed titles like God Wants You Well; The Believer’s Authority and Spirit, Soul and Body. The booths continued inside the meeting room. In the back, you could buy Wommack’s message that same day on CD or DVD. Next to that, people were asked to sign up and become “Grace Partners,” a fancy way of saying “financial supporters.” They had the option of making either small daily donations or annual lump sums.

The conference began with music. As the seats filled up, a middle-aged man sang and played the guitar. “God is my refuge and strength / a present help in time of need…” With lyrics flashing on two screens up front, we sang along to a few songs. The attendees were mostly white, but there was diversity in age. Given the hype about miraculous healing, I was surprised at how few of them showed obvious signs of infirmity. There were no oxygen tanks or even canes. I saw one woman with an arm brace and another with a walker, but that was it.

When Wommack came to the podium, he started by hawking his books. After that, a missionary couple talked about their experiences. Wommack took back the stage to promote some Bible colleges in the Chicago area. We were encouraged to donate to the schools as they needed new buildings that cost millions of dollars. Here, the screens showed architectural plans and a photo of a forklift breaking ground. All the money we gave tonight, we were told, went straight to these building projects. Ushers passed what looked like white popcorn buckets along each row to collect donations.

After almost an hour and a half, Wommack finally began preaching. His style was conversational and funny, delivered with a slight Southern accent. He carried a Bible and referred to it often. He contrasted our old, sinful human nature with the new one God gave us. The “new nature” included not only spiritual but physical health. He sprinkled his long sermon with quirky lines like, “If that didn’t light your fire, your wood’s wet” and “If you give Satan the opportunity, he’ll eat your lunch and pop the bag!” On the subject of depression, he said, instead of taking pills, “you oughta take the Gos-pill!” (Groan.)

But what really frustrated me were his thoughts on — what else? — healing. According to Wommack, having a disease like cancer was voluntary: “Satan can’t make you sick without your consent and cooperation,” he said at one point. “You can refuse to have cancer.” Sitting right next to my cancer-stricken relative, I gritted my teeth.

Following the message and a prayer, there was an altar call for people to become born again or baptized in the Holy Spirit. About 20 people met with volunteers in front to pray, and Andrew urged more to join them. He said baptism involved speaking in tongues, an experience that would “change your life!” Wommack himself spoke in tongues while praying aloud. It was complete gibberish. “Don’t worry about what it sounds like. You’re bypassing your brain,” he explained.

Andrew Wommack from a 2011 Seminar in Chicago

When the healing part of the service came around, I was underwhelmed. I’d expected the drama of a Benny Hinn crusade — people babbling in tongues, collapsing at the preacher’s touch, and getting up from wheelchairs believing themselves healed. Nothing like that happened. Most people just prayed, bought merchandise, or left after the sermon.

But as those remaining milled around, Wommack did share so-called “words of knowledge.” These were just vague declarations about miracles occurring. He told the smaller crowd that if there were tumors anywhere in their bodies, God was dissolving the tumors then and there. He went on to pronounce healing of sinus problems, polyps, headaches, depression, sleeping trouble… Needless to say, there was no evidence of a single miracle. I could have stood up there myself, saying the same things. Why did everything sound so generic? Couldn’t God at least tell Wommack the names of healed individuals? The “words of knowledge” hardly required any knowledge, much less any supernatural signs from God.

That brings up another problem. In books and seminars, Wommack relies heavily on testimonials. But his anecdotes are clearly cherry-picked. People pray and recover from sickness; they land well-paying jobs; they apply his teachings and turn their lives around.

Nobody shares their story unless it’s positive and inspiring. You never hear about people who prayed hard but died of their illnesses, anyway. Are we supposed to believe all sick Christians are healed? Or what about people who give their money generously but can’t pay their bills later? Is it their fault for having weak faith? What should we make of the even more bizarre claims about people coming back from the dead? Wommack says his own son Peter was resurrected, among others. These stories are flat-out absurd. Maybe he’s completely sincere when he says it, but Wommack is wrong on serious matters of life and death.

My biggest issue with what he’s doing can be summed up in two words: false hope.

When he talks about having a positive attitude, I’m completely behind him. But when he pushes a religious form of magical thinking, I get angry. Sick people are already scared and vulnerable — they need real help. How many of those people listen to Andrew and toss out their medication? How many of them stop chemo? Or worse, how many of them refuse to provide medical care for their sick kids because they think God will just take care of everything?

I’m all for giving people hope. But the false hope offered by Andrew and his ilk is dangerous and even deadly. The truth is, modern medicine is the only “miracle” we’ll ever see.

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. You can read much more about him here.

  • thepoint2012

    hemant you are a SACK OF ****

    rationalresponders.com/forum/32697

    • http://twitter.com/AchronTimeless Achron Timeless

      Ah, the mature argument of an idiot. Straight to the personal attacks and then nothing else. You didn’t even attempt to regurgitate some catch phrase that’s been forced down your throat since childhood, you just post a link to incomprehensible ranting as if that suddenly resolved anything.

      Your tactics offend me. Not the attack or the pathetic self censorship, but the fact that you thought we were stupid enough for it to work.

      • Glasofruix

        He spams this crap everywhere.

  • thepoint2012

    no medicine will save you when it is your TIME TO GO…

    • Aaron Scoggin

      This is false. Medicine has saved many many lives and increases quality and length of life the world over. Me 1 You 0.

      • BionicHips

        There are limits to what modern medicine can do. Stage 4 metastatic breast cancer is one of them. It can increase life by a few months and make the remaining time better, but not save life.

        • pagansister

           However it beats totally counting on faith healers to make things better.  Think I’d stick with modern medicine.

          • Darrel South Africa

            I am not going to argue with anyone for or against healing, albeit spiritual or otherwise. Many many people are angry based on bad experiences and perceptions. All i say is simply this…go and find out for yourself. In that way you take ownership for your own life. My hearfelt prayer is that God Himself will reveal Himself to those who search for Him with a sincere heart. We all need peace and love and those are the greatest gifts that this world needs now. May we choose to give up our right to be offended…the world will be a better place i am sure.

  • EivindKjorstad

    Thank you Michelle. I enjoyed reading your account.

  • LesterBallard

    Benny Hinn is still my favorite . . .

    http://youtu.be/a54iqEr1flQ

  • cipher

    “You can refuse to have cancer.”

    Of course. It always ends up being your fault. This is what all people of faith do – blame the victim. “You didn’t give it enough time,  you didn’t really believe”… the rationalizations are endless. Ultimately, it isn’t about helping you, but about protecting their belief system – and in the case of guy like Wommack, protecting his income as well.

    The New Agers are no different. Listen to Wayne Dwyer on PBS sometime. Same litany, minus the Southern accent and threats of hell.

    • Stev84

      It also serves to tear down people and destroy their defenses. Make them doubt themselves and feel worthless. That way they are more susceptible to conversion and other mind control techniques.

    • The Other Weirdo

       My mother is convinced that all of our(I mean humanity’s) problems come from the great beyond, and that nothing we do here really matters because nothing we do is from here, it’s all rooted out there somewhere. I’ve tried to explain to her that that’s just her opinion(or, more precisely, the opinion of the author of some book she’d read) that may or may not have any basis in reality, but she thinks I need to be less set in my ideas. Pot. Kettle. Black.

    • Ranylt

      “Ultimately, it isn’t about helping you, but about protecting their belief system.”
      Spot on. And so topical these days.

  • cipher

    Thank you for removing Guest’s comments. Now, if you’d ban the insufferable troll Rwlawoffice, that would be much appreciated.

    • The Other Weirdo

       As far as I know, the user Rwlawoffice doesn’t post threats of any kind. It merely posits a viewpoint unpopular on this blog, even if it is insufferable. Have we become our enemy, then, banning all those daring to contradict us? Has our skin become so thin that we must shun unpopular opinions? It used to be that in an Internet discussion someone on the opposing camp would be compared to a Nazi. These days, we just call them trolls.

      • cipher

        OK, now you’ve gotten me started.

        I almost never enter Godwin territory, but I make an exception for Christian fundamentalists. In my opinion, they’re worse than Nazis – and I say this as a Jew. The Nazis merely wanted to kill us; most gave little thought (if any) to our postmortem condition. Christians, on the other hand, are quite convinced the vast majority will spend eternity in a state of unimaginable torment – and they have absolutely NO problem with it. None. In fact, many – and I maintain it’s most – anticipate it eagerly. Indeed, it’s one of the core teachings of Calvinism, which is, along with Dominionism, one of the two main influences within the evangelical subculture. They believe their afterlife will consist of an eternity of hanging out on a mezzanine in heaven, knocking back beers with Jesus and Dubya, peering over the balcony into the bowels of hell, where you and I, along with billions of our human siblings, will be tortured for all of eternity, while they point and giggle like schoolchildren – although I understand that some of them believe there will be two entertainment channels, the other one consisting of perpetual NASCAR races.

        So no, I’m not overly concerned with Robert Wilson’s (aka “rwlawoffice) right to free speech. He’s a raging psychopath, as well as a bloody moron. Let him go commandeer threads on Chrsitian blogs, where he can complain about the antichrist Obama and the atheist, homosexual and abortionist agendas to his heart’s content. I come here so that I don’t have to deal with such imbeciles.

        • Antinomian

          If that’s heaven cipher, I’d rather laugh with the sinners.

          Anyhoo, I do like to read what the jesusloons write and have to say. I suspect that alot of people on the fence or at least with some doubts may be lurking on this site and when they see the lunacy of the christians around them and what they post here, they may inch a little further to reason and away from superstition.

           That said, we have to engage these hateful little loonies and call them on their bullshit. The banhammer is a badge of honor for them and another reason for them to say we’re the hateful ones.

          • cipher

            The banhammer is a badge of honor for them and another reason for them to say we’re the hateful ones.

            I really don’t care. There are lunatics, and there are insufferable lunatics. Wilson falls into the latter category.

            • Antinomian

              I feel ya’ cipher. They can be aggravating and obtuse. But when I don’t feel like reading them or bashing my melon against the wall pointing out their fallacies I just skip them. However, a blog like this in letting the theists present their opposing view, no matter how silly that view is, stands far and above the christian blogs who will not tolerate any dissent or opposing views and will remove any such posts.

              I’m just saying that letting them have their say exposes them for what they are.

              • cipher

                I don’t agree. There are limits. Also, this is a particularly persistent troll. He’s been attempting to commandeer threads. I’m sure he sees it as defending God’s honor, or some such thing.

                • http://profile.yahoo.com/A37GL7VKR3W6ACSIZPH7EID3LI rlrose63

                  Like I tell my son about the doofus kids and bullies at school… just ignore them.  Yeah, they’ll keep talking but they’re talking to a wall that won’t talk back or run.

                • amycas

                   What happens to the kids who are bullied, ignore the bully, and still get beat up? Did they not ignore the bully well enough? At some point, we just have to say no, we won’t allow the bullies here. They are responsible for their behavior, not the others for not ignoring them for long enough.

                  I don’t mean to jump on you. I just hate the “simply ignore them” solution, because it’s not a solution. It only serves to make the victim feel like they did something to deserve the bullies ire, and when the bully is ignored xe simply finds a new victim.

                • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

                  I agree.  Traditional trolls are just looking for a reaction.  Ignoring can be useful.  Bullies on the other hand need to be addressed.  In particular for the audience.  That doesn’t mean that if someone isn’t up to it that they have to.  But sometimes a single voice of support can make all the difference to the bullying victim.

          • nakedanthropologist

            In all honesty, I had been lurking on this site for six months before I had the guts to comment – and I was on the fence. I come from a fairly typical southern household: my parents are religious moderates (Catholic) and I attended a Catholic elementary school when I was a kid. I have a master’s degree. But I was on the fence – not a fan of religion, to be sure, but I never referred to myself (even privately!) as an agnostic or atheist either. But reading the articles and comments here on FA helped me to become comfortable with myself and my own disbelief. I was able to observe that people could be reasonable, civil, and good without god or a faith system. Growing up, even as a Catholic moderate, atheism was considered to be like a bad word. Only people with no hope, sociopaths, psychopaths, or the hopelessly lost and confused were atheists. I’ve been on the fence a long time (since I was 12) and seeing the common threads of good and decency in Hermant’s writings along with many of the commenters here did a lot for me. Similarly, I noticed that many commenters of a religious orientation (not all, but many) were usually apologists or downright hateful (as in the so-called Guest-troll).

            • nakedanthropologist

              Edit: when I refer to atheists (et.al) as psychopaths (and so on) I meant to clarify with “popular parlance and culture sent me social messages that inferred that” in reference to the negative descriptors I had observed/received about disbelief. Please don’t take offense. :)

  • http://www.travismamone.net/ Travis Mamone

    You can refuse to have cancer? Alright, I’m gonna smoke an entire pack of cigarettes today!

  • John of Indiana

    ““Don’t worry about what it sounds like. You’re bypassing your brain,” he explained.”

    Pretty much sums up Religion in general, I think…

    • Sindigo

      Why are religious people so keen on using other parts of the body to think anyway? How any times have we heard that Jesus is in your heart or similar?

      • Antinomian

        Not to mention, speaking out of their ass…

        • Sapphire

          Martin Luther was obsessed with bowels.

  • A3Kr0n

    I couldn’t have sat there that long.

  • MargueriteF

    “According to Wommack, having a disease like cancer was voluntary: ‘Satan can’t make you sick without your consent and cooperation,” he said at one point. ‘You can refuse to have cancer.’”

    Words like these are hurtful to anyone who’s suffering from cancer, or who’s known someone with cancer. No one “cooperates” with cancer. And this sort of belief can be actively harmful as well, as in when someone stops having necessary medical treatments, and decides to “refuse to have cancer” instead.

    I loathe faith healers. LOATHE them. Because yes, all guys like this are doing is cherry-picking the success stories (which are most likely due to medical science rather than his services) and ignoring the people who aren’t healed, in order to give a false impression of efficacy. They can do terrible damage to people who need REAL help.

    • cipher

       Yes. THANK YOU.

  • Tainda

    Just like an infomercial or a commercial for a weight loss drug.  The 2 people that the bald spot spray worked or that actually lost weight on the pill are the ones they have on their commercials

  • Kodie

    When he talks about having a positive attitude, I’m completely behind
    him. But when he pushes a religious form of magical thinking, I get
    angry.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-14-2009/barbara-ehrenreich

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LJ3YWZEE6A46RUDHWPGYVSK4DI david e

    “When he talks about having a positive attitude, I’m completely behind him. But when he pushes a religious form of magical thinking, I get angry.”

    Even the “positive attitude” stuff can be a serious problem.  Barbara Ehrenreich writes some interesting things about this regarding her own struggle with cancer.  The “encouragement” to have a positive attitude can be more about making the caregivers and others around the patient feel better than about the well-being of the patient.  People who feel terrible should have the right to express that fact without the sort of condescending and judgmental demands to “have a positive attitude” that many seriously ill people experience.

    • onamission5

      This.

      Forcing a smile onto the face of someone who feels awful, is angry or sad and rightfully so, is all about the people around them not wanting to deal with the reality of injustice. Stuffing down “negative” emotions does little to nothing for the person experiencing them. It just makes that person more palateable for others who aren’t going through something awful. The person her or himself gets a message loud and clear that their pain isn’t welcome because it distresses the pain-free observers, so keep your suffering to yourself.

      The only positive attitudes are welcome pushers lack compassion, imsho.

  • Nigel

    I’m an atheist working at a large church. We’ve had visiting ministers around from time to time. Usually their terms are, the church keeps the offering in exchange for them being able to set up tables to sell merchandise.  It must make them enough money to cover their expenses and salaries of a few handlers that travel along with these people. 

  • onamission5

    “Don’t worry about what it sounds like. You’re bypassing your brain.”

    Ra-freaking-men to that. Truer words were never spoken.

  • Octoberfurst

     My beloved grandma was devoutly religious and when she broke her hip and couldn’t walk anymore she went to faith healers to be healed.  They prayed over her and said to expect a miracle but nothing changed. Even though she was constantly disappointed she kept trying new faith healers.  She wanted so much to be healed.  She even sent money in to Oral Roberts to get a “healing prayer cloth” that Oral had “personally blessed.” She died in the late 1970′s still wheelchair bound. 
      Needless to say I despise faith healers.  They are nothing but charlatans who prey on people’s desperation.  My grandmother spent the last 10 yrs of her life going from one fraud to another.  I will never forgive them for giving her false hope only to see her disappointed time and time again.

    • Antinomian

      It just dawned on me that I could sell anything, promise anything, and no matter how untrue and a piece of crap my product or service is, as long as I wrap it in christinanity I would be exempt from all the Truth in Advertising and consumer laws.

      Damn my rational thinking and Humanist Moral Code, I could be rich..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/A37GL7VKR3W6ACSIZPH7EID3LI rlrose63

        My husband says the same thing… unfortunately, we are incapable of lying to people to make money, which makes us even MORE angry with these types of people. 

  • Nadia Gomos

    Sad to say but this was my life about 5 years ago. That sense of false hope.

    I actually wrote about my experiences with televangelists yesterday : http://www.thehomelessgirl.com/2012/08/my-history-with-televangelists/

    Andrew Wommack is generally very uncharasmatic. The best ones are the ones who can get you riled up.

  • Marcie

    Michelle – I’m curious about how your family members, especially the one with cancer, felt about the meeting.  Is the member accepting medical treatment?  Good luck to you and yours.

    • Michelle

      They were enthusiastic about Andrew & bought a book. The sick one talked about how glad he was to find Andrew, since his former church never taught about faith healing. He is seeing doctors, but he also goes to a faith healing church. So it’s a mix… Thank you. :)

  • Sapphire

    Some years ago a couple I know went to a church here in the UK run by a charismatic fundamentalist called Roger Price.  He wrote the same kind of books about taking authority in the name of Jesus, casting out the demons of sickness and the spirits of alcohol, tobacco, abortion and suicide.
    He was actually a rather pleasant, friendly even modest man. Sadly he contracted throat cancer and despite ‘words of knowledge’ about his healing he died.
    My acquaintance, along with several others, took video cameras to the funeral fully expecting Roger Price to rise from the dead.
    Needless to say he is still dead.
    Incidentally this same couple gave us all their Disney videos because “animals don’t talk and we’re telling lies to children by showing talking animals”. For some reason it was OK to lie to our kids.

  • Kirby Clendenon

    I was an elder in a church that believes exactly as you have written here.  I was the one laying on hands and praying for healing etc.  You have correctly identified the problem: false hope.  I eventually went forward for prayer myself while a visiting evangelist was at our church.  He asked what I wanted prayer for.  I told him that I was beginning to have grave doubts regarding the Bible and Christianity.  He immediately started casting devils out of me (lol), and I thought right there:  This is bullshit.  Since that time, I have written my story of how I took back the sovereignty of my life and rejected the Bible as being God’s word. It is available at Amazon under the title “Surrender of Sovereignty.” I enjoyed your post very much and can attest to everything you said to be factually accurate for these type of meetings.

  • Kimpatsu


    But what really frustrated me were his thoughts on — what else? — healing. According to Wommack, having a disease like cancer was voluntary: “Satan can’t make you sick without your consent and cooperation,” he said at one point. “You can refuse to have cancer.””I wonder what would happen if Wommack himself got really sick with, say, leukaemia…?

    • pagansister

       It would be his fault for not praying hard enough or something like that I expect.  I also expect he would be heading to the nearest doctor to see what treatment was available and then pray his brains out.  Or if he was speaking in tongues, he would be bypassing his brain! 

  • Elgin Young

    Always remember this. Religion (pick any one) is all about what you have to do for God. Christianity is all about what God has done for you. Christianity has been infiltrated by religion, but it is not a religion.

  • pagansister

    It is a shame that people actually fall for this kind of thing and the men/women who spew their “faith” get richer and richer off those folks who believe the rhetoric.  Wonder if those who are supporting the faith healers ever wonder why the preachers are living in the zillion dollar houses,  and does it dawn on them that they are the reason the preachers can afford those places?  

  • Ahmed Abututa

    I totally agree. I think it’s sad when “preachers” say things like its your fault you have cancer. Or when the supernatural is emphasized. I am a Christian but not one who believes in magic. I believe God is everywhere and with everyone, especially the sick. Where there is suffering , there God is. Why don’t all people get healed? Why do people suffer? I don’t know, I don’t have those answers. But when we suffer we can be comforted and have hope that God is with us and somehow maybe through the negative circumstances, some positives can come out of it. Maybe strength. Maybe e ability to comfort others who are afflicted (solidarity). Maybe positive attitude to battle through hardships.
    And also it’s sad when Christians and other people of faith buy into the hoopla and false hopes of miraculous hearings by supernatural powers, and decline medical treatment for themselves and loved ones. Because I believe God gives gifts to doctors to heal people by diagnosing, prescribing treatment and caring for their patients with compassion. God uses the natural, we need to stop thinking of God as only supernatural because again God is everywhere and in everyone.

  • http://twitter.com/Svenn6 Svenn

    The Preamble to United States Constitution states:“for ourselves and our Posterity”.If Asians took land in a war,then said “We claim this land for ourselves and our Posterity”,they’re not talking about Africans,or Europeans;they’re talking about ONLY Asians.Tell us where the US constitution says “We are a melting pot.Tell us where the US constitution says “We must bring in millions of immigrants and assimilate until Whites are a minority.Tell us where it says this isn’t genocide on White’s

    • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

      I hesitate to give such a vile comment any light.  The genetic difference between two people living a few hundred miles apart in Africa is likely far greater than between you and anyone in Asia.  And said Asian could easily be closer to either of us than we (assuming you’re also a ‘European’) are to each other.  The fact is that all your racist imaging is a fart in a hurricane compared to how closely all humans are related.

      There are seven billion fucking (literally) people on this planet.  The only genocide going on is of the rest of the species on this planet.  Humans by and large are doing fine.  And if you don’t like the fact that your great great great grandchildren will probably be darker than you, well, there’s fuck all you can do about it.

      • Michael Gillespie

         
        We COULD breed like rabbits.

        Tibetans COULD breed like rabbit also.

        That does not change the fact that they (like us) are subject to a program of GENOCIDE.

        Genociding people and then saying “Oh, well it’s their fault – they
        should have bred more.” Does not remove you anti-White’s responsibility
        from the genocide you’re a perpetrating against my people.

        Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

        • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

          If you have 1 or 100 great great great great grandchildren, what does it matter what color they are?

          I don’t need to be anything but anti-stupid here.  Your desire for a very small number of genes out of 10s of thousands to remain ‘intact’ is stupid.  You wouldn’t know about the rest of the genome if nobody told you.  You might as well care that you only have decedents who are the exact same height as you, or can/can’t roll their tongue.

  • B_R_Deadite99

    The Fall of Man. It’s been an ongoing process since we invented religion.

    I hate your weakness. This zoo, this prison. Fuck you, mankind; if you weren’t so damn stupid, maybe you’d have a future. Right now, I’m just not sure anymore.

  • guest

    It’s people like you that lack faith who will not receive from God. Let God’s word be true and every man a liar. Unfortunately, those who speak and think like you, will never receive from God.

  • desiree

    My name is Desiree (wommack) I was married to Andrew’s son Jonathan Peter Wommack for 3 years. Andrew Wommack, Jamie Wommack are charlatans of the Christian faith. I was emotionally, mentally and physically abused while being married into that family, by Andrew, Jamie and their sons. Jonathan ( Peter) was not raised from the dead, his heart stopped after a sever heroine overdose, the doctors and nurses saved his life, he was placed in a private room awaiting is parents arrival, his heart did stop, but he was not the Lazarus his family insist on proclaiming.

    Jamie Wommack told me ” Sometimes you just have to zip it ” after I begged her for help as her son would brutally beat me. So many bruises and scars she witnessed herself. She also said on an airline back from the Florida ” I am so proud of Peter even more so that he doesn’t punch on you anymore”. I never told her such a thing as her son was quite found of beating on me. The final time I saw that woman she perjured herself in court to defend her son as he was carted off to jail for beating me so severely that I still have a 4 inch scar on the left side of my face from him biting my face.

    Jonathan ( Peter) fathered a child out wedlock and the Wommacks exalt her higher then the Lord they claim to worship. These people are pure evil. Andrews teachings are heretical to true believers in the Word of Christ. They are happy to pretend that they provide sanctuary and have named a large portion of land in Colorado as such, yet when the daughter in law they had, the sister in Christ that was being beaten BY THEIR OWN SON for the simple act of demanding respect as a woman, as a human. No sanctuary is provided. Jamie Wommack actually transported my naked and bloodied body to her home to “clean up, we don’t want this known” and told me that my marriage was over. She had to speak for her cowardly son that she raised. They hoped I would be silent. I never will be. I have made sure that any and all people that know of, choose to follow, or write about ( good or bad) the Wommack’s hear the truth. This condone rape, spousal abuse and premarital sex, drug use and unwed parenting… all that are directly against God’s law.

    Andrews teaching are and will destroy peoples lives. Ask me anything in regards to that family. I am more then happy to answer anyone’s questions about their teachings, hypocrisies, lies, beliefs. Ask me!!! Ask Jamie or Andrew to respond to my claims. I have nothing to hide. I want the truth to be known about this hideous man and his family

    • Seenenough

      I’m so sorry you went through this. I hope you find a decent, caring person that will truly love you.

    • TaterSalad

      You said “Ask me anything in regards to that family. I am more then happy to answer anyone’s questions about their teachings, hypocrisies, lies, beliefs. Ask me!!!” So, I have a question, but before I ask, I should tell you a bit about me.

      I grew up in a big church, Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Oral and Richard Roberts, and many others were regular visitors there. That church split when the pastor had an affair with the music minister’s wife. So I’ve seen my fair share of hypocrites and liars.

      After seeing all of that, I wondered for a long time if there really was any good in the world or if humanity in general is really just a bunch of idiots. After much pondering, I came to the conclusion that there are only two kinds of people on the planet, despite differences in religion, politics, ethnicity, race, creed, social status, etc..

      My conclusion is that the entire worlds population can be distilled into just two groups. Those who build, whether you agree with them or not, and those who destroy, whether you agree with them or not.

      Some of the people on this forum who do not hold evangelical christian values, have written books about their experiences and beliefs, they are creating, building.

      Some of the people on this forum who hold evangelical christian values, such as the topic of this post, are building and creating.

      Many of the rest are destroying what others have built.

      Everyone has a choice, to truly be positive or negative, to create or to destroy. I don’t believe that anyone who destroys can say that they are positive people, just as anyone who builds is not negative by nature, whether they are right or wrong.

      It is easy to be a critic of the work of others. It is difficult to build something of your own.

      I would challenge you to, instead of making it your life’s ambition to ruin someone else’s work, no matter how deserved it is, spend your life building something of your own. Make it beautiful. Make it majestic. Make it your own.

      I believe you will be much happier in that pursuit than you will showing the world how human other humans are.

      I fart. No one cares. People lie. That’s not news to anyone. People have sex. Also, not news. Some people who claim to be good are actually bad. It is nothing new. There are much more worthwhile pursuits in life than that.

      Tell your story, like you want to but in a positive way. How did you overcome? How did you persevere? How did you succeed. That is a story that everyone will want to listen to. When you make the focus of your story how you were wronged by someone else, you are a victim, you stay a victim, everyone has a story like that. Turn it around. Make it your success story, and everyone will want to hear it.

      My question is, “How has your horrible experience made you better? What can I take away from it that gives me hope? What have you learned about life that would help me?”

      • Thankful One

        AMEN! I lay before you life and death, blessing and cursing, therefore, choose life! The choice is laid before each of us and the choices we make tell the world about our character. I, too, have been mistreated by people who call themselves Christians, but I have chosen life and peace for myself. I CHOOSE not to be bitter, angry and hurt. May God soften the ex Mrs. Wommack and heal her heart. Sin comes to every family and it does affect those in it’s path. Use your experience to help others in a similar situation and watch your life be blessing beyond measure.
        Signed, from one who has been there.

    • Carrie Ring

      are you available for questions

  • Dennis Teel

    I find blogs like this amusing..why all the stress and using your blogging space to bash Christianity?funny ..why don’t you choose to bash other religions.why focus on Christianity? what’s your point? i’m amazed at how many ‘bashblogs’are on the internet disguised as ‘informational’ as though their doing a public service of some kind.i came across this site once.chances are I won’t see it again.i think it’s a shame that the bill mahrs of this world don’t see what foolish morons they really are.mahr is on tv every week for the sole purpose of bashing republicans(ie conservatives) and Christians..that’s his sole purpose in life…you don’t see how bizarre that is? just like your sole reason for blogging is to bash the Christian religion…how absurd..i can sure think of better things to do with blog space/.how many Christian people have you actually ever known personally? just curious.i attend a certain restaurant here in my small town.not one time have I ever heard a Christian start bashing a non believer.but I frequently hear non believers get mouthy to Christians ..all it takes is for a customer to say something to the waitress about how he just came in on his way home from church and some atheist 2 tables down starts in with a loud, “hey you say you believe in god,let me ask you a question”..then the criticizing begins..me..i’m a minister and I hear atheists mis construing scripture more often than any Christian/.for example,when an atheist started in on me like that a while back,i quickly replied that I wasn’t going to discuss what I believe as I ain’t tossing my pearls to swine to be trampled upon .at that point the guy threatened violence..i told him come on i’m sitting right here..he then foolishly said” now see..you claim to be a Christian and all that but you ain’t shit…god said turn the other cheek…you ain’t no Christian”//this guy truly thought I wouldn’t attempt to defend myself and that ina wussy like manner i’d surely back down using some biblical scripture.he misunderstands what was meant when it was said to turn the other cheek.he mis construed why it was said at the time it was said//but what can you expect from one who doesn’t understand bible priniciples,except for what they hear when changing channels on television.ever thought of changing the nature of your blog?it’s pretty negative really.

  • winston

    The good news as Christian we know when we die we are going to see our Lord Jesus, but sadly atheist when they die, they are dressed up but don’t know where they are going. As Christians we should pray for them. .

  • Believer

    If you don’t believe you won’t receive so that is why you experienced it that way. I pray that the scales will be removed from your eyes.

    • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

      If you don’t believe it, you won’t be deceived by it.

  • TAVIS

    WELL MY FRIEND IF THATS WHERE YOUR FAITH IS, THEN GOD CAN ONLY MEET YOU THERE, AND NOFURTHER! IT ALL DEPENDS HOW MUCH FIRE YOU WANT TO WALK IN! AND BY THE WAY RELIGION IS MAN MADE, TO FOLLOW JESUS IS A FAITH WALK, NOT A SET OF RULES ON HOW TO FOLLOW, BUT EVERY DAY WALK AND TALK. ITS TIME YOU PAID ATTION TO THE WORD OF GOD, START WITH MARK 16:16-18 AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THAT, THEN DONT GO AROUND RUN DOWN THE PEOPLE WHO DO, FOR THE PROBLEM THEN LIES WITH YOUR BELIEVE AND FAITH!

  • Thepeoplesblessing

    It is truly about having a relationship with God and Jesus and recongnizing the kingdom within you. Read the Bible. Trust him and he will direct your path. The devil is real and is alive as well as God. I started listening to Andrew Wommack a year ago when my girl friend was battling cancer. That night I prayed to God what are we doing wrong we pray for her healing everyday. Around 2:00pm cst I woke up and heard Andrew Wommack on TV and said because you have been praying wrong. I don’t think that was an accident me hearing him on TV. I called her and told her to do what God tells her to do. She had so much Chemo, surgeries and medication she was going down hill fast. She died shortly after that. I clearly heard God tell me tell her no more chemo or else she will die. She asked the doctors to give her more chemo and she passed away 2 weeks after that. I have health challeges myself but I will only gravitate to the positive not the negative. My prayers have changed since I listened to Andrew Wommack and Sid Roth shows and many other ministries. We will all die one day YES! But it is the quality of life here on earth before we decide to go to heaven or hell. That’s what this Life on earth is all about!

  • rdcoyote

    I can understand your skepticism. I don’t want to be one of those people who posts the cliche stuff, but it is helpful to point out this Bible verse, “But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned”. Faith is a dynamic that unlocks these experiences and more. I’m not trying to offend here, but faith flies in the face of reason most of the time (I won’t go into it). You may laugh at this (and I give you permission), but I went to an Andrew Wommack meeting and he was calling this stuff out at the end. He called out a stomach condition I had suffered from for most of my life and my wife elbowed me. I thought, that would be great if it did happen. To my surprise, from that day forward I haven’t suffered from that condition and it has been about 6 years. That same night I did see a guy who had a cane leave without it. I also watched an old lady walk up there who obviously had terrible back problems. I thought, “I’m going to watch this myself” as a local pastor prayed with her. I watched that lady walk away with her back straight and I felt a warm sensation over my body and I started to cry because that had to be such an awesome relief for her. If you can drop the negative presuppositions, it is an exciting thing to see someone experience freedom and relief.

  • lifeisbeautiful

    I can’t see why people would not want to accept things and being beyond and better than themselves, want healing, want happiness, etc (because there is a long, beautiful list)…I think that because of unfounded rebellion, angst, close-mindedness, and the help of mistakes ignorant religious people or specific institutions humans have overlooked how great spirituality, and a relationship with God, are.

    I think everyone should not be so concerned with criticizing things that they don’t quite understand and stop worrying about the issues with “religion” which is “practice by humans”; humans- beings that happens to be very flawed, and JUST GIVE SPIRITUALITY AND GOD ( A BEING SO GREAT AND LOVING OF YOU) A SERIOUS CHANCE :)))

  • George Youket

    Dear Hemant,

    The reason you are an Atheist is because you do not want to know there is a God. If you are a math major, the science of probabilities would prove the existence of God to you, that is if you really wanted to know. Andrew Wommack has a real great discussion on how the law of probabilities proves that evolution is impossible and proves true the only alternative, that there is a designer responsible for all creation.

    Dare to be intellectually honest and meet the challenge of actually researching
    the facts and you will leave the Atheist religion to embrace the Creator of
    life, which by the way is not a religion but a relationship.

    A good place to start is with Wommack’s discussion on the impossibility of Evolution. Go to his website and under Audio Teachings, General Teachings, Evolution and listen. Get back to me and tell me your thoughts, that is if you really care. By taking the time to put up this blog I must conclude that you care to prove Atheism. To prove that we came from nowhere, are here for nothing and are not going anywhere after
    this life.

    So, how about disproving the existence of God. Anyone who has ever tried has come to the conclusion that He exists is real and it is true that He is our Creator. So don’t try and prove the existence of God, try to find proof that He does not exists.

    You can e-mail me at: mystocks@myself.com if you are up to the challenge.

    Sincerely,

    George Youket

    • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

      Instead of telling Hemant why he thinks what he thinks, why not ask him? Or read this blog, which is partly dedicated to that? It is beyond arrogant to tell someone else not only what they think but why they think it, when you could show a teensy bit of humility (Christian value!) and ask instead.

      EDIT: Also go watch this video about burden of proof http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=qualiasoup+burden+of+proof&oq=quali&gs_l=youtube.3.1.35i39l2j0l8.289.632.0.2616.5.5.0.0.0.0.201.593.3j1j1.5.0…0.0…1ac.1.11.youtube.MKmOSj5V7J4

      • George Youket

        The Atheist’s lack of Intellectual honesty is the point I was trying to make here. If I touched a hot stove and got burned I could say for a fact, “that there are such things as hot stoves.” I have examined and experienced the stove. On the other hand someone else might say that that is not possible because stoves do not exist. If I show them the burn, the food I cooked, the manufacturing plans for the stove and so one and they still say, “there is no such thing as a stove.” then it’s not that the stove does not exist, it’s that they do not want to know that the stove exists and for some unknown reason they refuse to consider the evidence and proof. Atheism takes far more faith to embrace than does the existence of God. Give me proof that there is no God, that’s all I ask. And I am not angry in any way at anyone in this discussion. I am a Christian but I am not a religious man. Man created religion, not God.

        • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

          Give me proof that we are not living in a computer simulation, that’s all I ask.

    • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

      I’ve heard that setting out to disprove the Book of Mormon will lead one to becoming a Mormon. I think this kind person would love to discuss it with you http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/09/08/lead-singer-of-the-killers-richard-dawkins-should-do-his-research-on-mormonism/#comment-914129918

      After all, the only reason you’re not a Mormon is that you do not want to know the truth revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith by the Angel Moroni. Dare to be intellectually honest, and meet love speaks’s challenge!

  • Yetsak

    A bunch of godless atheists glorying in their unbelief.

    1 Corinthians 2:14

    The natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

  • Larry V

    You people who criticize christianity and mock God will one day learn the truth.
    For your sake I hope it’s not too late as your eternal life a little uncomfortable to say the least.

    My”Survival Guide” guarantees that I will live happily ever after, how about yours ?

    • guest

      these people are mocking false teachers, ministers, etc… not God n if they are mocking God its because they haven’t been shown the truth about God and Jesus…God loves all his people, even them who don’t believe rite now, who are you to say they will go to hell? For what they said? Love your enemies do good to them that use you etc… don’t tell them you’re going to hell that is unbiblical!! Read your bible love everyone more than yourself…

  • JMosh

    I am so sorry to hear about this. It pains me to read this but this is not true christianity. This man is a false teacher and seeks personal gain. Please remeber not to judge Christianity by those who abuse it.

  • Zeal

    Heman Mehta the greatest sin is blasphemy of the Holy spirit your in danger with you life.


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