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How about I see some atheists actually try to think outside the box for a change and own up to Obummers horrible presidency.
Oh wait, we still have to blame everything on bush, well if Obama get’s re-elected do you think he will finally blame himself for this disgusting position the US is in right now?
“I’m told that liberals are all in favour of tolerating other points of view, until they are shocked to realise that other points of view actually exist.”
- William Buckley
One day the atheists will come to realize they are calling the kettle black. With the exception of Ayn Rand the atheist flock will always be brainwashed by whatever the pervgressives are feeding them.
I’m sorry, since when are all atheists American?
3/10, not very believable.
I’m sorry, but I heard reading comprehension was hard. Can I get a confirm or deny?
No I just thought I’d throw in the fact that any atheist who thinks their lives are meaningful is deluded. Given the fact that the universe = meaningless origin.
Do you guys ever think about the absurdity of naturalism or do you just decide let’s be athiests because we hate Christians?
Coming from a person who believes unconscious universes can magically create themselves uncaused out of nothing, I’m not bothered by your conclusion LOL
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
Ayn Rand was a psychotic libertarian who spouted irrational tirades of delusion that society will flourish if only individuals were selfish bastards who cared only for themselves.
If the unborn are not human, no justification for abortion is necessary. If the unborn ARE human, no justification is sufficient. – Greg Koukl.
Ayn Rand was an atheist philosopher though LOL
And In order for something to be a fantasy, it needs to be shown so.
So how about we have a little dance here:
First off I will show why NATUREDIDIT = irrational position and THEISM > ATHEISM
“Nevertheless you have expressed my inward conviction, though far more vividly and clearly than I could have done, that the Universe is not the result of chance. But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man’s mind,which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind? ” Darwin to William Graham July 3rd 1881
So naturalism [your worldview] has a very special epistemic problem. How do I know that I am not just evolved PURELY for the purposes of survival and nothing else? This means that what I take to be true is just what my genes want me to take as true because it is best for the heuristic purposes it is being put to task to perform. On naturalism a naturalist has a very good reason to think she may well be permanently deceived about a great many things
I beg to differ. I have a very meaningful life, thanks. I have great kids, better grandkids and a full social life full of volunteering and social activism.
Much better than wasting energy my entire life here on the hope that some fairy godfather will provide a (boring ass) eternal life when I die.
*Ahem* just as I’m sure you don’t agree with every representative of your religion, we don’t all care for Ayn Rand. She doesn’t represent me.
Life is meaningless. No argument. And even so for a Christian.
Think about it, if you’re wrong, and your particular sect of the Christian faith is not the correct one, then you stand to potentially suffer not only any of the torturous hells the other Christian sects have dreamed up, but also any of the torturous hells dreamed up by any other religion. Some estimates put world religions currently at 4,500 others as many as 68,000,000, all but one of which you (presumably) do not adhere to.
Do the maths, chances are Christianity is not correct. http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/How_many_gods%3F
But lets take that a step in the other direction. What if you’re correct. Then you are the lucky winner of an eternity grovelling at the feet of a self-professed jealous being, who created you to give him praise, who strove to keep humanity ignorant but ultimately let forced a choice the pain of knowledge and death over the bliss of ignorance and protection.
I can think of no more miserable way to spend your time, than being forced, on pain of torture, to grovel and praise another being. That you look forward to this opportunity and show such distaste for those who don’t is just sad.
Atheists don’t hate Christians, we just hate what you’re doing.
Stop trying to legislate your beliefs into impositions on others, and I’m sure we really can all get along.
Life is meaningless. No argument. But that doesn’t mean it’s valueless.
And this has what to do with an ignorant congressman or preventing ovulation?
Every time conservatives get criticized one of you shows up shows up to say “Oh yeah , well Obamba and librulz are dumb.”
It’s really very boring. If you don’t like that Todd Akin fails high school health class and human empathy, please be more creative and entertaining.
Coming from a person who believes that an infinitely intelligent being can exists uncaused, and magically will the universe into existence…
Better call the leg factory my friend, because you don’t have one to stand on.
P.S. Big Bang cosmology deals with what we know from the facts of what we can see happened just after the event and extrapolates backwards as to what that event looked like. It does not make assertions about the cause of that event, only extrapolation and speculation based on facts. As opposed to Christianity’s bold assertions which lack any observable or testable facts to back them up.
Yeah, but Ayn Rand was like the William Lane Craig of atheist philosophers.
Human =/= Person. God you’re a baddie.
I’m sorry, but I heard reading comprehension was hard.
yes, we understand you find reading comprehension hard. In your case I can’t tell if it is deliberate ignorance or a mental disorder. Probably both.
Off Topic: I like that we have an old fasioned troll again, first in “Guest” now in “Leibnizian Christian” (probably the same person). He/they remind me of Jon from a few years back. Anybody else remember Jon? He was fun.
How exactly does having an after-life and essentially living forever after you die give your life more meaning than it would have if you don’t have an after-life?
Kind of like how god can magically create itself, uncaused out of nothing, and then go on to magically create the universe ex-niholo?
Atheism isn’t a religion, so we don’t have to care what “atheists philosophers” say. If they say something we like, we’ll pay attention though.
I don’t know. I don’t normally go into a comment section and say,”You know what would liven this place up a bit? An incoherent rant filled with spelling and grammatical errors that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Yes, I think that would really be ‘Fung Shui.’” It reminds me of the injured bat I found as a kid* in the backyard. It was fun to poke and look at for a bit, but eventually I got bored, told my mom about it, and she called animal control.
*I was about 5 or 6 at the time, forgive me that I didn’t have the sense to call animal control immediately.
If conservative ideas had any merit they would work. Decades of supply side economics have failed while other nations with higher marginal tax rates and a greater commitment to social welfare programs aren’t having the same problems we are. Universal health care works. Taxpayer funded higher education works. Worker-friendly regulations work, but the US is stuck with a pile of idiotic free market fundamentalism that doesn’t work.
On the Buckley quote, I tolerate the existence of other points of view, but I have to dismiss some as being wrong. Viewpoints imply pursuing mutually exclusive options. If I thought conservative proposals had any merit, I would agree with them, but the more I read about social and economic problems and the more I try to understand what causes them and what fixes them, I see that the ideas have no merit.
Coming from a person who believes they have an imaginary friend who sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself, I’m not bothered by your trolling.
I like a good troll as much as the next person, but I’m worried that Leibnizian Christian may actually be retarded. I know that’s not the PC term anymore but it fits.
I like my trolls to play devils advocate with a bit more intelligence, not just inane babblings.
He tried it out, but then the red mist descended over his vision. I too am disappointed he couldn’t hold his troll wad longer.
Wow. Ive never heard magic invoked as the cause of the universe. The fact that we say we don’t know something doesn’t mean your default position of god did it is correct. 2+2 equalled 4 before counting or numbers were invented. Things stayed on the ground before the theory of gravity was theory. We may well have the rest of these answers soon enough or not for 100 lifetimes. It still lends exactly zero credence to a book written by prescientific goatherders. I’m sure you are aware that gravity is a negative form of energy and light etc are positive forms. Taken in total in the universe they could result in a net zero state. The same for matter and antimatter. Or perhaps matter in its basic form has always existed. I believe that before some superbeing has existed forever! I for one don’t know. But I love the search for knowledge. All I have seen from religion is the repression of knowledge to preserve an ever more prone to be proven wrong system of beliefs.
Why do you troll here anyways? I was a christian but have no need to try assert my unbelief on their boards!
Fact? Look the word up. And look up evidence while you are at it ! Provide evidence to prove your facts! You could save us all!
Sorry, not funny and bad taste.
“And In order for something to be a fantasy, it needs to be shown so.”
So, anything I can think of is real until proof of the contrary?
I always forget when I should pull out the no true Scotsman card. I just read about it and it’s just like I bought a hammer and everything is a nail.Do I get to call it even when my side uses it?
You forgot to mention that God aborts millions of fertilized eggs every day around the world, without mother ever knowing. Therefore God = murderer, right? Leibnizian, you there, or are you too cowardly to tell how I’m wrong???
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