University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Will No Longer Have Christian Prayers Before Football Games

The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga used to recite Christian prayers before football games. But in May, the Freedom From Religion Foundation sent them a letter (PDF) asking them to put a stop to it:

Our complainant, a University of Tennessee at Chattanooga football game attendee, reports that the invocations at football games from 2010 until the current season have been delivered by a representative of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. It is our information and understanding that these prayers conclude with the reference to praying in the name of Jesus Christ.

While students, athletes, and athletic event attendees may choose to gather privately in prayer, a public university has no place in encouraging or endorsing religious ritual.

It wasn’t a threat. It wasn’t a subtle lawsuit-in-waiting. It just pointed out the problem to the university chancellor and requested a response.

And, as the letter noted, attendees are free to pray on their own. The school just can’t make Christian prayers an official part of the game.

For months, the school didn’t respond. But yesterday, they finally issued a statement on the matter — just days before the first home game:

University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Chancellor Roger Brown said this afternoon that the university immediately will begin observing a moment of silence, rather than a spoken prayer, before its football games.

“We believe this allows all in attendance to reflect and address their individual beliefs in their own ways,” Brown said at a news conference. “Events such as football games should provide opportunities to bring all members of our community together.”

It took a while but it’s the right decision by the school. They’re staving off a potential lawsuit while still giving Christians time to pray if they want. (No doubt Christians will still complain that they’re not receiving special treatment.)

The UTC Secular Student Alliance, which had supported the FFRF in this matter, was thrilled to hear about the change:

Today, The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga’s Secular Student Alliance today celebrated an important victory for unalienable rights of freedom from state sponsored religion. We are pleased to hear the University has chosen an [inclusive] alternative over the former policy of Christian prayer before Football games. A moment of silence provides a solemn and secular alternative to Religious prayer and respects the rights of people of all faiths or no faiths. We encourage other institutions currently embroiled in similar controversies to follow the University’s example.

I spoke with Bryan Barkley, the co-chair of UTC SSA, last night and asked him what he thought about this decision:

I am very pleased with the outcome and the university accepting UTC SSA’s alternative proposal of a moment of Silence. I am, however, disappointed in the university waiting four months since the Freedom From Religion Foundation letter [was sent]… to respond. It was only after an extensive public awareness campaign by UTC SSA and media scrutiny that this was resolved.

Hopefully, this will at least send a message to any other school opting to turn their athletic program into an extension of the Christian church.

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  • Marcuspaine

    I could never be an atheist; I don’t have enough faith.

    Atheists that scrub every suggestion of our religious cultural heritage out of the public square are just as extremist in their viewpoints as the fundamentalist Christians of the world, and therefore just as insufferable.  This needs to stop.

  • Sindigo

    Your “religious heritage” is the religious persecution that your forefathers founded your country to get away from. That and the first amendment. This decision defends that heritage and you should be proud of it.

    Edit: Nice try at trolling with that first sentence though. You know, the one that had nothing to do with the story or your comment. Just for balance, I’ll have a go:

    “I could never be anything but an Atheist. I’m too old for fairy tales.” How’s that?

  • Coraulten

     I honestly can’t tell if your serious or just being a troll.

  • Drew M.

     This is satire, right?

    Just in case it isn’t, you need to read this post. Our position is *not* extreme; it is neutral.

  • Marcuspaine

    The United States of America has always been a uniquely religious nation.  It is indisputable that we have a deeply religious cultural heritage – we are, in fact, one of the most profoundly religious nations of the West – and that heritage has been expressed in the public square for generations.  While I do not sympathize with anyone who furthers a fundamentalist agenda, neither can I support the attempts of atheists to broadly secularize with little to no regard for our religious culture.

    Before I am accused of being a Christian fundamentalist, let me state now that I am an agnostic who considers himself more of a cultural Christian rather than an observant member of any faith.  I recognize the enormous contributions that the Christian faith has made to our society, and I make no attempts to revise our history like many atheists have – and continue to.

  • Marcuspaine

    If you were more intellectually honest, you wouldn’t take an extreme position like fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist atheism do.

  • Marcuspaine

    Funny how that “neutrality” is often expressed as outright hostility to any shred of religious influence in the public square, which in most cases has more to do with our nation’s actual history than any active attempts to disadvantage any non-religious group.

  • Sindigo

    So would you mind enlightening the group as to exactly what a fundamentalist Atheist is? As fundamentalist is defined as someone who adheres to fundamental principles and Atheism doesn’t have any I fail to see how “fundamentalist Atheist” can be anything but a non sequitur.

  • Marcuspaine

    I fail to see how the conclusions of an atheist are any different than the conclusions of a Christian who is certain that their faith is correct.  Atheism is a belief in the absence of any conclusive evidence; it reaches a conclusion that evidence cannot support.  If you were more honest, you would identify as an agnostic, which is the true position of neutrality on this issue – and comes without the baggage of atheism.

  • Marcuspaine

    Are you so used to people agreeing with you that you can’t conceive of any reason why someone, somewhere in this world, could read what you have to contribute to a discussion and – gasp – disagree?  How sheltered your life on this blog has been, if that is indeed the case.

  • MargueriteF

    Yes, it’s nice to rely on “history.” The Founding Fathers were mostly deists, a religious view which is extremely poorly represented in our present-day society. If this were really about “cultural heritage,” people would be offering deist prayers publicly, not Christian ones– though I admit I’m not sure what a deist prayer would look like, or why there would be any point in praying to an entity who set the universe in motion and then sat back and took a multi-billion-year snooze. 

    But I digress. The point is that going on and on about “our Christian heritage” (much of which is being systematically distorted and misrepresented by fundamentalists) conveniently means that it’s okay to force Christian prayers on people in public venues, but not, say, Wiccan prayers. In fact this came up in Chesterfield County, VA, where I used to live:

    Notice that the Wiccan priestess in question wasn’t merely denied permission to offer an invocation before board meetings. It was heavily implied that Wicca wasn’t a “real” religion, and her religious beliefs were insulted and made fun of.

    So this is what your “historical” argument leads to– a country in which Christians conveniently get to force the rest of us to listen to their prayers, while no one else’s prayers are welcome. Even if this sort of Christianity had been broadly practiced across the country’s history (which it was not), I think this outcome alone would be a good enough reason to stand up and say that it’s time to change the way we do things.

  • PietPuk

     If you were more honest, you would conclude you have no evidence to support your own relegious beliefs.
    Atheisme is a disbelieve in gods, no more, no less.
    What needs to stop is promotion of a faith by the government, is that so hard to understand?

  • PsiCop

    It doesn’t take “faith” to be an atheist. It takes “faith,” on the other hand, to be a theist.

    As for “scrubbing” our “public square” of its supposed “religious cultural heritage” … what childish nonsense! There are lots of things in our “cultural heritage” we’ve chosen no longer to observe: things like slavery (definitely part of our “cultural heritage,” but no longer legal).

    Are you sure you want to turn back the clock and reinstitute all those aspects of our “cultural heritage” that we’ve left behind? Why do I not think that’s what you really want?

    What’s happened is, we’re slowly stopping the practice of shoving theism down everyone’s throats. I know it’s hard for you theists to comprehend it. You don’t like it. Having to deal with all these insolent, uppity non-believers must be an unendurable trial for you. Having to accept that there might actually be an occasion or two in which you aren’t able to thump your Bible at people, must be torturous.

    But you know what? That doesn’t matter any more. You’re not in control any more. You don’t get to hammer everyone else with your religious beliefs. It’s long past time you believers got over it already and moved on with your lives. Grow up, fercryinoutloud.

  • PietPuk

     The nations actual history, like how “one nation under god’ was only added in 1954?

  • machintelligence

    It sounds like you have been reading the pseudo history of David Barton. Please note that his reputation is sinking fast, even among the religious. 

  • PietPuk

     Coraulten is probably wondering because your ‘arguments’ have been debunked millions of times, yet you have apparently been enjoying a blinkered view of the world, thinking your ‘arguments’ are original.

  • PietPuk

     Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in
    any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no
    character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of
    Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war
    or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is
    declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions
    shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the
    two countries.

  • PsiCop

    For the record, there’s no such thing as “fundamentalist atheism.” The term “fundamentalism” has a rather specific meaning: it refers to an intensified reliance on a particular sacred object or principle. Those become the “fundamentals” on which the rest of the religion hangs.

    In the case of fundamentalist Christianity, those “fundamentals” are the Christian Bible and the principle of Biblical literalism.

    Atheism, on the other hand, has no “fundamentals” at all. To call someone a “fundamentalist atheist” is semantically nonsensical. All it says is that you don’t like that atheist; but quite frankly, whether or not you like any particular atheist is not relevant to anything. Please take care to use terms correctly.

  • PsiCop

    Re: “The United States of America has always been a uniquely religious nation.”

    OK, then. So America is religious? That must mean you think all Americans must be religious too. Great. Now, track me down and make me religious. Go right ahead. You have no reason not to try.

    Oh, and the part about you being supposedly agnostic … ? Heh heh heh heh heh … !

  • Coraulten

    Yes, being my first time commenting on this website im so used to everyone here agreeing with what i have to say.

    On a side note, those damn extreme atheists trying to uphold the constitution.

  • michael both

    Then I guess in the same way you are ‘agnostic’ about fairies, elves, werewolves, vampires, zombies and Hobbits? There’s just as much chance as those things existing IRL as god or gods existing … best to keep an open mind, right?

  • Deals4him

    Philipppians 2: 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

  • Sindigo

    I don’t know whether I should agree with you or not now; in case my agreeing with you somehow lends credence to his argument. ;)

  • Sindigo

    The logical extension of his Marcuspaine’s version of Agnosticism should surely see him in every church, mosque, synagogue and temple trying to absolve himself. If you think knowledge of whether God exists to be impossible to attain then shouldn’t you share your time equally among the religions “just in case”? Your non-attendance in this life isn’t worth gambling eternal damnation on.

  • PietPuk

    From the Loose Cannon, The Random Number of Not Commandments, Suggestions:
    13. Thou shalt be amused rather than angered by the words and deeds of idiots; for I am thy Noodly Lord and I have created idiots solely for entertainment purposes, Mine first and thine likewise.

  • Marcuspaine

    No, you are drawing a conclusion that ignores what I said.  That our nation has a religious cultural heritage does not mean that every citizen is religious; rather, that every citizen is not religious doesn’t mean we don’t have a religious cultural heritage.  It is important to understand what it means to have a religious cultural heritage.

  • Marcuspaine

    And, once more, the hivemind at work:  you don’t agree with me; therefore, you can’t possibly be an agnostic!  What a pathetic way to try to discredit someone.  

  • Sindigo

    What are you dealing for him? Cars? Cards? Crack?

  • Glasofruix

    It allways puzzled me, why are people praying before a fecking football (hand-egg?) game? Isn’t the “creator” of the universe, of everything that is, supposed to have some better things to do than watch an insignificantly small event (compared to the rest of the universe)?

  • MargueriteF

    Well, God is supposed to note a single sparrow’s fall. But in that case, why pray to him at all? Presumably he’s watching already, so there should be no need to beg for his attention. And why pray at a game, anyway? Are we asking him to take sides? That’s hardly fair. If, on the other hand, we’re just asking him to keep the athletes safe, then we’re back to the sparrow argument– God’s supposedly omniscient and therefore doesn’t need us pestering him every minute.

  • Sindigo

    You’re doing a great job of discrediting yourself by refusing to debate anyone, tbh. Why don’t you answer my question about what you mean by fundamentalist Atheism or respond to the criticisms levelled at your argument? While you’re at it, why don’t you define what you mean by “Agnostic” as your definition seems to be at such odds with everyone else’s?

  • Roy Gamsgrø

    When you pray, don’t be like those show-offs who love to stand up and pray in the meeting places and on the street corners. They do this just to look good. I can assure you that they already have their reward. When you pray, go into a room alone and close the door. Pray to your Father in private. He knows what is done in private, and he will reward you.

    Matt 6:5-6

  • PietPuk

     I will believe your claim of agnosticism if you denounce jesus as your lord and saviour, and agree that no viable evidence is currently known that any god or gods exist, including the gods of the different christian bibles.

  • Erp

     Actually it is in the government square as a privileged player that is opposed.    If the Fellowship of Christian Athletes had a open prayer meeting at their pre or post game tailgater that is not privileged but is in public and is perfectly fine (assuming noise and other standard restrictions are abided by).   Christian prayer also excludes Jews, Muslims, Buddhist, etc. just as a Buddhist or Muslim prayer might be felt to exclude Christians.  Even some Christians feel excluded; Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod members are only suppose to join in prayer with each other or with the very few Lutheran groups they are in communion with.

    Early US history certainly discriminated against religious minorities.  Religious test oaths (not allowed at the Federal level but many states had them) and state laws prohibited Jews and other non-Christians from being elected (until 1868 in the case of North Carolina and Jews had to fight hard in Maryland to get the law changed in the late 1820′s).  Some state constitutions and laws still require state officials to have a belief in God (though these are null and void because of the federal courts’ interpretation of the US Constitution in 1961).  Established churches existed in several states.  Massachusetts (Congregational until 1833); New Hampshire required members of the Legislature to be Protestants until 1877.

  • C Peterson

    This matter has nothing to do with atheism. Do you think a Jew, Hindu, or Buddhist is any happier about Christian prayers before an event which is sponsored by a tax-supported government entity?

    It is secularists, not atheists who have asked that this be stopped. Asking that the First Amendment be respected is hardly extremism.

  • RKHB

    Honesty is to acknowledge that the likelihood of God existing is about on par with the likelihood of Zeus, Allah, Odin,Ra, etc. existing.  Just because I can’t prove that there is no tooth fairy doesn’t mean I have to take a neutral position as to her being real or not.  I see no proof that god(s) or for that matter tooth fairies exist at all, so I think I am allowed to assign both the same probability for existing – not zero, but something close to it.  After all, that quarter under my pillow had to come from somewhere.

  • Matt in Memphis

    This is a common bait-and-switch on this topic. You are confusing the right of the people to use and express themselves in the public square, which all religious and nonreligious people alike will always enjoy in this nation, with government speech. Aside from some neutral time/place/manner rules that everyone must follow, there is no restriction of expression of anything in the “public square” by the public. What you see us atheists objecting too (as well as many principled religious people who actually understand this issue) is government speech advocating a specific religious perspective. We are just asking for neutrality from our government and rightly oppose the government using divisive religious rhetoric that makes political outsiders of nonbelievers, believers in other faiths, and even Christians who don’t think it is appropriate to grandstand about their beliefs appear as political outsiders.  Why is this so hard to grasp?

  • allein

    I heard the quarters clinking one night when my mom came to check on me. The next morning they were under my pillow. Therefore, according to the evidence, the tooth fairy lives in my mother’s pajama pocket. :)

  • Fentwin

    And Jesus said unto them, “And whom do you say that I am?”
    They replied, “You are the eschatological manifestation of the
    ground of our being, the ontological foundation of the context of our
    very selfhood revealed.”
    And Jesus replied, “What?”

  • Silo Mowbray

    You also have a uniquely cultural heritage of slavery, where an entire region’s economy was based on slave labour.

    But go ahead, keep insisting that your “unique cultural heritage” is more important than the rights of the individual.

  • Edmond

    Please note that this is at a University, and NOT a church. People do not go to schools to be led in the prayers of one particular religion, that’s what church is for.  School administrators are not clergy.  They are not appointed as spiritual leaders for anyone, that’s not their job description (there ARE other jobs where this is encouraged), they are not paid for this (some people ARE paid to do that), students do not come to schools for that (people go to CHURCH for that).

    No one is trying to “scrub” religion from anywhere that it doesn’t belong, but it doesn’t belong here.

  • Pepe

     Me and Jesus said the same thing :)

  • C Peterson

    So what if there is a strong Christian influence in our culture? Religion can still be practiced in the public square, it simply can’t be promoted by the government. That was established by our founding documents. If some of those rules have been ignored at times in the past, that doesn’t make it right.

    The country has never been less Christian than today- a trend that is continuing. It is hardly surprising that as the culture of the country changes, Constitutional violations that were tolerated in the past will come under closer scrutiny.

  • Sunny Day

    ” That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;”

    Ah no wonder we shouldn’t take his name in vain. Otherwise we wouldn’t get anything fucking done with all the bowing and scraping.

  • Antinomian

    Ramen Piet, Ramen…

  • Jmayes

    This will not be a place I allow my son to attend.

    And for those of you quoting scripture that aren’t followers of Christ, you’re wasting your time. And you’re making yourselves look like idiots.

    Furthermore, I can’t believe that there are so many sniveling whiney babies that they actually have a foundation called “Freedom from religion”.

  • PsiCop

    Re: “That our nation has a religious cultural heritage does not mean that every citizen is religious …”

    OK then, if you concede that Americans are not required to be religious, then please explain why you think Americans are required to defer to religion as though they are.

    If they don’t have to, then our supposed “religious cultural heritage” is not relevant … to anyone or anything. And there’s no reason for anyone to act as though it matters.

    Unless, of course, one is using it as an excuse to get Americans to obey one’s religious beliefs. Be warned: I have no intention of ever believing in your religion; I will never willingly adopt it; and you will never be able to force me to act as though I believe. Not even at gunpoint.

    So go ahead and blather all you want about our supposed “religious cultural heritage” … I don’t plan ever to honor it, for any reason, and no power on earth can ever coerce me to do so.

  • PsiCop

    Nothing you have said betrays even the slightest knowledge of agnosticism. This isn’t about me discrediting you; it’s about you discrediting yourself by your own disingenuity.

    If you truly care to know anything about agnosticism … which I doubt … you can find out a lot about it, right here.

  • nakedanthropologist

    May the Sauce be with you.

  • nakedanthropologist

    Hopefully your son will grow up to be a man os strong integrity, sound ethics, and have a great love and respect for his country. In doing so, he will be a greater man than his father – secure in whatever faith he chooses and proud to live in an inclusive nation that respects all of its citizens faiths or those of no faith. Which will be a very good thing, since there is a high probability that Christianity will be a minority by the time your son actually gets to college.

    FYI, many of the commenters are former Christians – and probably know the bible better than you do. Also: “render unto Caesar…” (hopefully you can pinpoint the verse without google)

  • phantomreader42

    Anyone who says “I could never be an atheist; I don’t have enough faith.” is dumber than dog shit and a pathological liar. 

    Marcuspaine, your faith is so pitifully weak that it can only sustain itself through constant, shameless lying.    You have not the slightest idea what you are talking about, and you’d rather die than learn anything, because you worship your own willful ignorance.  You know, deep down, that your delusions aren’t real, and the only way you can distract yourself from that fact is by screeching moronic lies at the top of your lungs. 

  • phantomreader42

    As you have been repeatedly asked what you mean by “fundamentalist atheism”, and as neither you nor any of the other brain-dead lying sacks of shit who use that phrase has EVER been able to point to a single example, then you admit that it means nothing, you are just babbling nonsense, and nothing you say can be trusted because you are a lying sack of shit.  

  • phantomreader42

    Well, there are a LOT of things you fail to see, because you deliberately gouged out your own eyes to avoid seeing anything that conflicts with the your long-debunked regurgitated delusions.  

  • phantomreader42

    Yes, Jmayes, we all know perfectly well that christians only pretend to believe their idiotic book of myths when doing so is convenient for them.  Quoting the bible to a christian won’t have any effect on their behavior, because your cult only pretends to believe your own bullshit. 

    And thanks for admitting that you and your son are too fucking stupid to figure out how to pray to your impotent imaginary friend without being ordered to do so by an agent of the government! 

  • ImRike

     Poor son! You own him? You don’t allow him to attend this place? He’s your slave? Poor son! I hope he is strong enough to withstand your dictatorial fathering and be able to grow up to be a free person!

  • Baby_Raptor

    It takes way more faith to believe all the lies christians absorb nowadays than it does to be an Atheist. I have no faith. Being raised in a fundie cult killed it all. 

    We don’t have a religious cultural heritage, and the christianists’ refusal to accept that fact does not trump the Constitution. EVERYONE has freedom of/from religion, not just you guys. 

  • Baby_Raptor

    If I’m not religious, then why should I have to have religion forced on me? And if we have a prevalent religious culture, then why did the Founding Fathers go out of their way to set up a secular, religion neutral government, and talk loudly and frequently about how dangerous government/religion mixing is?

  • Baby_Raptor

    Your bible can talk all it wants to. If your god exists, I will never “bow” to him. I’d sooner roast than be in proximity to that and the people that are twisted enough to think it moral and praiseworthy.

    That said, did you have a reason for this spam, or were you just looking for an ego kick?

  • Baby_Raptor

    1) If your son is an adult, he doesn’t need your permission to go to a certain school. Why do christianists love controlling other people so damn much?

    2) What, does the bible say somewhere that only avid followers can quote it? 

    3) Hypocrite. I’m willing to lay money that you don’t whine one bit about all the christian organizations that supposedly protect your ever-so-endangered rights. And you would be raising hell if you thought those rights were stepped on. 

  • PietPuk

    And for those of you quoting scripture that  are followers of Christ,
    you’re wasting your time. And you’re making yourselves look like idiots.

    Fixed that for you.

  • cipher

    Yes, I know. We can’t, with our carnal minds and unregenerate souls, understand the depth of our depravity – or the importance of prayer in football.

  • BarHoJo

    YES – you pray to God because he wants to hear from you – yes his word says to ask in supplication – thats why you pray.  It is freedom of speech to pray and the University is wrong to stop praying becaue of the few. Thats the way we operate these days though, that a minority has more rights than the majority. Did the school even bother to ask its fans or the school body, maybe the parents – the ones that make it possible. That doesn’t matter either – you take God out of something and see what happens – like the school system.  Look at Chicago – the teachers can’t teach those kids – only 15% of the 4th grade could read at a 4th grade level and only 45% graduate from High School …. and they are on strike making $75K a year. Something is wrong with this picture.  Watch what starts happening the the Univ of Tenn.

  • BarHoJo

    How about a little protection for those boys out there on the field?!!

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  • BarHoJo

    I’ve been reading all the negativity and isn’t it amazing there is never one atheist in a fox hole – not one! You guys just haven’t lived yet, come close to death, or died and given grace to be revived, had a devastating disease, or maybe never knew real love or needed it. I feel sorry for you – you will be in my prayers.

  • phantomreader42

    Whenever a christian says they’ll pray for an atheist, they are ALWAYS lying.  What they really do is jerk off fantasizing about their imaginary friend burning atheists alive for their own sick amusement. 

    I don’t need your monstrous, psychotic delusion.  YOU need your head examined.  And you need to TURN YOUR FUCKING CAPS LOCK OFF, YOU SCREECHING LUNATIC!!!

  • phantomreader42

     Yes, “IDIOT” is an accurate description of yourself, BarHoJo. 

  • phantomreader42

    Your imaginary god is hoplessly incompetent at preventing rape, murder, war, or terrorism, feeding starving children, or stopping HIS OWN PRIESTS from raping children under their care.  If the best it can pull off is to prevent relatively minor injuries in people already wearing several pounds of protective gear, then it’s useless and not worth worshiping.  If it’s capable of more, then the fact that it has failed so miserably for so long demonstrates that it can’t be trusted and is STILL not worthy of worship.   Of course, you can’t allow yourself to think about that, because if you actually considered the reality you’d be forced to admit that divine protection is utterly worthless and imaginary. 

  • phantomreader42

     Why is it that christian faith is too pitifully weak to survive without being constantly pushed to a captive audience by agents of the government misappropriating public funds?  Are all christians really too stupid and lazy to figure out how to pray without being ordered to by an agent of the government?  Is there any way to get these death cultist assholes to admit that Matthew 6:% exists short of forcibly tattooing it on the inside of their eyelids?  Do you traitorous theocrats just spend every waking moment working on being dumber than dog shit? 

  • phantomreader42

    Anyone who repeats the lie “there are no atheists in foxholes” is openly admitting that the reason is that the chrisitans are too busy cowering in a hole like the worthless cowards they are, pissing themselves and crying, impotently pleading for their imaginary god to save them, while the atheists are too busy DOING THEIR FUCKING JOBS!!!

    BarHoJo, you are a worthless piece of shit.  Go apologize to each and every one of these soldiers who risked their lives to defend your worthless, cowardly, stupid, ugly ass, and then go die in a fucking fire.