We Deserve to Know More About Mitt Romney’s ‘Prayers’

This is a guest post by Michael Tracey. He is a journalist in Brooklyn, New York.


Last night the esteemed newsmagazine program 60 Minutes aired dueling interviews with both candidates for the presidency, Barack Hussein Obama and W. Mitt Romney.

“What are the essential qualities of a leader?” the correspondents queried. “I wonder what you’ve learned from the history of presidents in the White House?”

“Can you win this thing?”

Eventually the topic turned to prayer, and Scott Pelley (also the recently-installed anchor of the CBS Nightly News) made sure to pull no punches.

“Prayer is a time to connect with the divine,” Romney commented, reporting on what comprises his evening ritual, when wife Ann has gone to bed.

“You pray every night before you go to bed?” asked Pelley.

“I do pray every night, yeah,” Romney replied.

“What do you ask for?”

“Heh heh!” Romney winked. “That’s between me and God.”

A more discerning journalist might have asked the candidate to elaborate on the nature of this God to whom he apparently prays, or perhaps to describe what precisely the candidate meant by “the divine.” Given that Mormonism and Christianity are in clear doctrinal conflict — i.e., Mormonism is most certainly NOT just another sect of Christianity — the answer given likely would have been illuminating.

If Romney was not such an utterly dismal campaigner and the race were closer at this point, you can bet that soon enough we’d all be treated to our week-long “Mormon Moment,” wherein the News Media reckons with the fact that America could imminently have, for the first time in its history, a non-Christian for president. Whenever “faith” is discussed on the campaign trail, Romney smoothly elides any distinction between Mormonism and Christianity, affirming his commitment to “Judeo-Christian values” and studiously avoiding invocation of the words “Mormon” or “Church of Latter-Day Saints” — nevermind “Joseph Smith” or “golden plates”! The fact is, Romney was once the highest ranking Mormon prelate in Boston. His ties to the Mormon Hierarchy are strong. He should have to account for these things. (Whether he genuinely believes in the truth of Mormonism, I don’t know, but whether he genuinely believes in anything is doubtful.)

A theory percolating now is that Romney never really intended to be the President; as a businessman, he merely sought the Republican nomination for business-oriented reasons, one of which being the legitimation of Mormonism in the eyes of Movement Conservatives. Indeed, Romney has already succeeded in that goal. In order to “shore up the base,” GOP elites have spent much time convincing leery Evangelicals that Romney is really “one of them,” that they needn’t worry about the LDS Church’s “odd” conception of the Trinity or posit of an additional Testament. No, Romney is just a humble Christian like the rest of them good-natured folk.

This is an outright lie, as many honest Christians have long recognized. But because facts, logic, and reason are obsolete in the deranged Movement Conservative universe, lies are perfectly OK. Obama must be defeated, even if it means replacing him with a Chief Executive who is in fact a polytheist. (See my interview with Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association on the polytheism issue.)

What’s clarifying about this absurd dynamic is that it further exposes the emptiness at the heart of the Conservative Movement. They are not tethered to any semblance of principle — they are simply impelled by hatred, infantile rage, xenophobia, wild conspiracy theories, and a host of other nasty forces that maybe I will elucidate in some subsequent blogpost.

Happily, this hate-filled element can look forward to Four More Years of Barack Obama. Good job, guys!

About michaeltracey

Journalist based in Brooklyn, New York. Follow me on Twitter at @mtracey.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GodVlogger GodVlogger (on YouTube)

    Yes, since Romney brought up prayer it would have been interesting to ask which god he prays to… is it Jesus or is it God the Father, and then explicitly making a point that we know (although most voters do not) that in Mormonism “Heavenly Father” and Jesus are two distinct and different characters (unlike the christian trinity).

    If the Heavenly Father is all-knowing, can Romney pray to Jesus without the Heavenly Father eavesdropping? Which of his deities does a better job of answering prayers? How does he pick which one to pray to for a given wish? To which one did he promise to where the magic underwear? 

  • Jake

    That meme of Fry from Futurama, “Not sure if serious, or just trolling”. To both the comment above, and the article as a whole.

  • Don Gwinn

    This is not the caliber of work I’ve come to expect from The Friendly Atheist.  It’s disjointed and . . . weird.  Romney’s religion is weird, but from my point of view, they’re all weird.  President Obama’s church is pretty wacky, too, and he’s been allowed to skate on that question completely, despite choosing to keep touting his Christian bona fides (understandable in the face of crazies insisting that he shouldn’t be President because he’s a crypto-Muslim infiltrator, but still) while also insisting that he never heard the crazy stuff and therefore shouldn’t be expected either to defend it or disavow it.  For some reason.

    I was also surprised to see the assertion that the race isn’t close, since it looks like the major polls have it pretty tight and have for awhile.  And that the press isn’t giving Romney hell for being a Mormon . . . papers-of-record have been writing exposes on Mormon massacres from the 19th century with thinly-veiled intimations that Romney ought to have something to say about them.

    I just think it’s weird to be so venomous in the attempt to cast this as a race between a guy with a weird, dangerous cult of a religion on one hand, and the default on the other.  The “default” is President Obama, the guy whose biggest religious mentors are two crazy preachers who peddle conspiracy theories and suck up to Louis Farrakhan like they’re bucking for a seat on the NOI Mothership.

  • http://www.suburbansweetheart.com/ Suburban Sweetheart

    Frankly, I’m glad Romney didn’t answer the question any further than he did. I’m not Mitt fan, but I don’t think the country needs to know who its president prays to or what about. That is, indeed, between an individual & whatever deity he or she believe to be praying to, & while there may be no expectation of privacy in any aspect of a candidate’s life, I just don’t think the world needs to hear what Mitt Romney’s prayers sound like – or Barack Obama’s, for that matter. If he HAD answered the question, I can only imagine how he’d be getting slammed on all sides, not least of all by atheists, for inserting too much religion into an already-too-full-of-religion campaign. Better to just sit this one out & say his silent prayers, if he insists upon saying them at all.

  • MargueriteF

    I agree. This article seems to be proceeding from the idea that Christianity is “normal,” whereas Mormonism is weird and scary and ought to be a concern. (Mormons generally seem to consider themselves Christian, and the insistence that they aren’t seems to me to be a mainstream Christian thing, too– I don’t care if they are or they aren’t, frankly.) And it refers to an earlier interview with the American Family Association to make a point. Really??

  • Vicki

    Wow, how very… not friendly…

    This whole attitude of, you see the world differently so you must be evil is what bad religion does.

    Maybe, just maybe, rather than assuming “They are not tethered to any semblance of principle — they are simply impelled by hatred, infantile rage, xenophobia, wild conspiracy theories, and a host of other nasty forces” – you could think that they might be concerned about Obama enough to want someone with a fiscal philosophy similar to their own even if that means someone of a different religion.

    Or, you could just continue to spew hate.

  • http://exconvert.blogspot.com/ Kacy

    If anything he’s broken the record for “Presidential candidate with the most voters seriously pondering his underwear”  award.  I’m not sure whether I should applaud him for this achievement or simply giggle.

  • Jim

    As an atheist who believes firmly in the separation of church and state, I would say that Romney’s mormonism is none of your business, Michael Tracey.  We should want our candidates to talk about the issues and their plans to achieve their stated goals and platforms; not their religion.  

    Let’s not encourage candidates to bring their faith into the political discussion (they do that enough on their own).  Let’s have some integrity and fairness in this election.  You might be happy that Romney’s poorly managed campaign will lead to another Obama victory (and rightfully so) but please don’t feed the monster of religious division in American politics.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GodVlogger?feature=mhee GodVlogger (on YouTube)

    I understand the commenters saying that Romney’s prayers are his own business. Yes, that is true. 

    But when he himself brings up praying (as he did here) and he says that praying is his source of “wisdom”, and then we know how he uses that supposedly-supernaturally-derived “wisdom” to legislate his religious beliefs into laws that apply to others who don’t share his religion, now I think it is fair game to ask him what he means and why it should apply to anyone but him. 

  • sara

    If Romney was going to govern as if his religious beliefs were between him and his chosen deity you’d be right. I don’t believe he would do that so I think we need to know more about his crazy beliefs.

  • C Peterson

    In my view, the commentator lost all credibility when he made the absurd and ignorant assertion that Mormonism isn’t Christianity. What does he think defines different Christian sects except for “clear doctrinal conflict[s]“?

    Mormons are Christian. Like all Christians, they believe that they must accept Jesus in order to be saved. Like all Christianity, everything else is just fluff. The fact that we can put names to the people who made up the Mormon shit, rather than simply symbolic forensic names to those who made up the earlier shit, makes no difference.

  • C Peterson

    It does not interfere with the separation of state and church at all for voters to know about the religious beliefs of their candidates. I absolutely use such knowledge to inform my opinion of politicians- as should any rational person.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mikehigginbo Mike Higginbottom

    Well this is where I think you Merkins have a bit of a problem. Your Constitution has the Establishment clause but it also has Article 6  containing the No Religious Test clause. I happen to think that Article 6 gets it wrong (as C Peterson seems to think) but then how can I simultaneously call on Constitutional authority to rule on matters of state/faith separation? I’m not sure how you can square the circle here to be honest.

  • http://www.atheistrev.com/ vjack

    I am having a difficult time getting past finding “fact” and “Bryan Fischer” in the same sentence. Seriously though, I’m not sure I buy the suggestion that Romney’s religion is any stranger than Obama’s. Sure, it is less familiar to many of us, but it isn’t like Obama has any more evidence to support his religious beliefs.

  • Glasofruix

    He should have asked if Mittens wears magic underwear…

  • Glasofruix

    I allways thought that knowing if a dude believes or not in magic underwear BEFORE actually giving him access to the nuclear red button was a good idea, silly me.

  • machintelligence

    Sam Harris nails the difference in the first 25 seconds.

  • http://cranialhyperossification.blogspot.com/ GDad

    Kacy, respectfully, I have to raise a counter point.  Bill Clinton infamously had that “boxers or briefs” question in a 1994 MTV interview.  Granted, it wasn’t an election year, but nonetheless, I would contest this award you propose.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    I’m not Mitt fan, but I don’t think the country needs to know who its president prays to or what about

    Fine, but I will point out that Mitt felt it important to let the viewers know that he does pray. This is reminiscent of his 2008 “F*ck JFK” speech, in which he let America know that it is important to have a president with religious faith, no matte what the specifics of that faith are.

  • Reginald Selkirk

     I hope you understand that the ‘No religious test’ clause means no official government-imposed requirements* can be put in place. It does not at all apply to the standards individual voters may wish to impose on the candidates for whom they choose to vote.
    * Examples of this include certain state constitutions which specify that non-believers cannot hold office. These have been declared unconstitutional, although some have not been purged from the text of their state constitutions.

  • Mikey

    I’m an atheist who’s lived in the land of Mormons for years.  Sure a lot of what they believe is silly, but c’mon.  Are their fake angels any less fake than the angels in mainstream Christianity?  I’ve voted in a lot of elections, and have had to listen to every single politician go on about God-this, God-that.  I don’t care if their imaginary god lives on Kolob or Olympus.  I’ve still got to make up my mind, hold my nose, and vote for somebody.  There are plenty of reasons not to be a Mormon, but I also know Mormons who’ve done good things in public office.  This attack is just plain cheap.

  • Gus Snarp

    This is a good point. Usually the people with the nerve to say Mormonism is absolutely not Christianity are Christians. And some of them are the same people who say Catholicism is not Christianity. “Christian” is a pretty non-specific word, the differences among Christian sects are huge, whether it be Catholics versus mainline Protestants or Jehovah’s Witnesses, or Southern Baptists or any others, they all believe the others are flat out wrong on some pretty major doctrinal issues.

    Anybody who believes Jesus was the Christ, son of God and savior of mankind, is a Christian, even if they’re part of a crazy cult like the Westboro Baptists. 

    Frankly, I’m tired of talking about Romney’s religion specifically, what I want to know is the same thing Kennedy assured the nation, which is whether he will be more loyal to the Constitution as interpreted by centuries of jurisprudence, or to the Bible or the Book of Mormon or the heads of the LDS in Utah. The rest of it just doesn’t matter, but he needs to tell us where his loyalty lies. He’s afraid to do it because he’s walking a fine line, using his faith to keep religious conservatives motivated to support him without demonstrating that his religion is very different from theirs. So he can’t say he’s loyal to his church, but he also can’t say the Constitution trumps the Bible for fear of the religious right staying home in November.

  • http://www.suburbansweetheart.com/ Suburban Sweetheart

    Which leads me to ask: So what? Are you terribly offended to have a president who – GASP! – prays? He’s, like, ALLOWED to. That doesn’t mean I need or want to know any more about it, nor do I think it’s particularly appropriate for him to tell us.

  • Gus Snarp

    Yup, it’s pretty simple, just like the free speech part of the First Amendment, it applies to law and government action, not to individual decisions. I can base my vote on whatever I want, but a candidate cannot be prevented from ballot access or taking office because of his or her religion or lack thereof.

    Similarly, while the government cannot tell anyone they can’t publish their book or blog post about the President’s birth certificate or distribute their idiotic and hateful video about Islam, no publisher is required to publish it and no blog network or ISP is required to provide server space and DNS registration.

    But the magic happens when you combine the free speech clause with the establishment clause and the no religious test clause: since the establishment and no religious test clauses apply to powers of government, not to individuals, the free speech clause trumps them and anyone, including journalists, have the right under the free speech clause to ask and talk about the candidates’ religion. The government cannot compel them to shut up about it. It is only general politeness and a desire not to appear to be discriminatory that prevents the conversation from happening.

  • matt

    I’d still like to know the answers to those questions.

  • keddaw

    Strange that the largest and oldest Christian sect doesn’t believe one has to accept Jesus in order to be saved…

    Still it’s nice that the author doesn’t get to decide what constitutes a Christian but you can.

  • C Peterson

    I’m not aware of any Christian sect which doesn’t demand the acceptance of Jesus.

  • C Peterson

    The “no religious test” clause has got it completely right. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the tests individuals apply in deciding whom they will vote for. I can choose my candidate based on his religion, his hair color, or the length of his nose. There are no constitutional limits on this, nor should there be, nor how could there be?

  • NoDoubtAboutIt

    I’m not a christian, and I have absolutely no problem saying that mormonism is absolutely not christianity.   The mormons took the existing christian religion and added their new stuff to it, and changed some of the standard christian doctrines.  It’s basically the same thing christians did to the jewish religion.  Nobody thinks christians are jews, why would people think mormons are christians?

  • C Peterson

    Frankly, I’m tired of talking about Romney’s religion specifically, what
    I want to know is the same thing Kennedy assured the nation, which is
    whether he will be more loyal to the Constitution as interpreted by
    centuries of jurisprudence, or to the Bible or the Book of Mormon or the
    heads of the LDS in Utah.

    Well, since he chose as his running mate somebody who claims to have been nauseated by Kennedy’s choice of placing state above church, I think you already have the answer to your question.

  • C Peterson

    Every Christian sect took a previously existing form of Christianity and added their new stuff to it!

    And in fact, there are Christians who are also Jews. I know a Christian rabbi- a Messianic Jew who calls himself Christian.

    You are a Christian if you believe Jesus was the messiah, and you believe he died to save people from sin. And if you call yourself a Christian. Nobody has the authority to tell somebody otherwise.

  • keddaw

    Let me introduce you to the Holy Roman Catholic Church:

    The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church.

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    It would be an infringement of their freedom of speech to tell candidates they are not allowed to divulge their religious beliefs.  We don’t have a right to know, but they do have a right to tell us as much or as little as they want.

  • C Peterson

    So they have a dispensation for ignorance. That changes nothing. If you’re a Catholic, you accept Jesus as your savior. It’s that simple. I can’t imagine any Catholic not doing so.

    I’m not talking about how different sects define their members, I’m talking about the single core concept that defines people who self-identify as Christians, and that is the belief that Jesus died to redeem them (or everyone) of the consequences of sin. Catholics believe that. Baptists believe it. Messianic Jews believe it. Mormons believe it. I can’t think of any Christian who doesn’t.

  • Brian Pansky

     I could be wrong, but it seemed the post was mostly talking about how believers are treating the situation.  Instead of embracing diversity, they are more comfortable with people just being different kinds of christians.

    Though the idea that mormons are “non-christians” seems quite wrong.  It may be a drastically different christianity, but “christ” is still in there…

  • Reginald Selkirk

     I don’t think talking to an invisible friend is something he should be proud of.

  • http://www.suburbansweetheart.com/ Suburban Sweetheart

    Oh, I’m sorry, I thought this was a place for FRIENDLY atheists.

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson
  • http://religiouscomics.net/ Jeff P

    Thats terrific.  So y’all thank you very much.  Beautiful, beautiful..

  • Jake

     At this point, I think this entire blog is becoming nothing but troll material. As has been stated in some of the other comments, the quality of material on this has really been going down the drain lately.

  • Lena

    This blog has gone from being informing to being political. Officially unsubscribing from this b.s.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6O7TY36KKR4RN2JRA7MLV6LEZY Stan Dalone

    “America could imminently have, for the first time in its history, a non-Christian for president. ”

    This may be a bit technical, but weren’t some of our early presidents (e.g., Jefferson) deists?  That doesn’t really qualify as Christian either.

  • nakedanthropologist

    Oh, I’m sorry.  I thought you were here to take part in discussion, not troll around.

  • Deven Kale

     The reason that Mormons aren’t generally considered Christian is because the Christ they worship is so fundamentally different to the one of all Christian religions that there’s no way to classify it as anything but non-Christian.

  • nakedanthropologist

    For the first couple of centuries, Christians were referred to as Jews. It was only later clarification by theologians and the influence of Rome  that specified Christianity as a different religion from Judaism.

  • Deven Kale

     It is neither absurd nor ignorant to claim that Mormonism isn’t Christian, it’s the only conclusion left once you’ve learned certain facts about the LDS faith and it’s teachings about Jesus, and how greatly they differ from the teachings of all Christian faiths.

    1) According to standard Christian teachings, Jesus is only the son of Jay* by metaphor, for he is truly Jay incarnate sent to Earth through Mary. The Mormon teaching is that Jesus is the literal son of of their god Elohim, born first in heaven to one of Elohim’s spirit wives before being born to Mary here on Earth.

    2) In standard Christian teachings, Satan was created by Jay/Jesus, went bad, and was banished from heaven. In Mormon doctrine, Lucifer and Jesus are brothers.

    *Jehovah/Allah/Yahweh. If I have to give this guy a proper name, I’m stickin’ with Jay, because “God” is nonsensical to me.

    Here’s a nice summary of the crazy Mormon stuff, all of it true, including what I’ve said here. (the planet mentioned is hard to hear. It sounds like Kora but it’s actually Kolob)

  • Thin-ice

    If a candidate stated he believed the sun revolves around a flat earth, his candidacy would be over in a heartbeat.

    But a candidate in 2012 can believe in magic underwear, magic spectacles that decipher gold tablets, and that when he dies he will rule over his own personal planet and universe, no one dares ask him out loud if he believes in this stuff. 

    WHY NOT??????

  • Deven Kale

     It’s even worse than that. The magic spectacles were made-up by somebody after Smith died (I can’t remember who, but it should be easier to find). The truth is that he put a rock in his hat, then shoved his face in it, and the rock would glow with each translated word one at a time (I imagine something like a hologram). The plates were always hidden under a cloth, even while translating them.

  • http://annainca.blogspot.com/ Anna

    I totally agree. Mormons believe in a ton of bizarre things, but so do mainstream Christians. I don’t find Mormon theology any weirder than Catholic theology. We’re just more used to hearing about it. Is getting to be a god on the planet Kolob any wackier than believing that a god can be composed of a father and a son and a spirit and still be a single deity? Or that a god sent his son (who is also himself) to commit ritual suicide in order to save humanity from ‘sins’ that the god himself created? From my perspective, magic underwear isn’t stranger than holy water, eternal pregnancies aren’t stranger than being impregnated by a deity, and golden plates aren’t stranger than acting out cannibalism.

  • http://annainca.blogspot.com/ Anna

    Why does Michael Tracey get to decide who qualifies as Christian? There’s no consensus on this issue because there are hundreds of different sects, and they all claim they’re the one that has it right. He sounds like a fundamentalist who doesn’t want to admit that Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Mormons are all following the same religion that he follows. There’s no Grand-High Christian who gets to decide who’s in the club and who’s out of it. Sure, the evangelicals try, but no one else has to take them seriously.

    Given that Mormonism and Christianity are in clear doctrinal conflict — i.e., Mormonism is most certainly NOT just another sect of Christianity — the answer given likely would have been illuminating.

    No, Romney is just a humble Christian like the rest of them good-natured folk.
    This is an outright lie, as many honest Christians have long recognized. But because facts, logic, and reason are obsolete in the deranged Movement Conservative universe, lies are perfectly OK. Obama must be defeated, even if it means replacing him with a Chief Executive who is in fact a polytheist.

    So is Tracey an atheist? He sounds more like a disgruntled evangelical who can’t stand the fact that a “fake” Christian might get into the White House. Why should we care if Romney is a polytheist, anyway? Christianity itself isn’t exactly monotheism, what with the whole trinity claim. And some sects are even more polytheistic than that. Catholicism says it’s monotheistic, yet if it wasn’t wedded to that terminology it would be easy to see their saints as lesser gods and goddesses. In many other contexts, the Virgin Mary would qualify as a goddess.

  • Phasespace


    There are number of problems with this piece, but spewing hate isn’t one of them.  In the bit you quote above, the author is describing (rather accurately I think), the mindset of a large fraction of the modern republican base.  Sure, they make a lot of noise about fiscal responsibility, but then they irresponsibly and thoughtlessly block attempts at a compromise solution that only exacerbates the problem.  Those are not the actions of people who I would consider serious about resolving fiscal problems in a prudent fashion.

    If you do lean republican for purely fiscal reasons and are disgusted by all the ridiculous and pointless rhetoric and obstruction, then you are no longer a movement conservative.  People like you are called RINO’s now.  That’s where the real hate is coming from.

  • Foster

    Yeah, because Stalin (atheist) and Kim Jong-Il (atheist) and Mao Zedong (atheist) worked out so very well.  Sorry, but as track records go, Christians (or Christian heretics, if one prefers) are doing a lot better than atheists on misusing power when they get it.

  • http://twitter.com/KevinSagui Kevin Sagui

    I thought that was Santorum who said that, not Ryan.

  • Glasofruix

    Yeah and hitler was a vegetarian so we shouldn’t let vegetarians into position of power… You’re comparing some leaders of the past century to 2000 years of christian oppression, sorry to break it to you but Jebus alone killed more people than Stalin and his buddies together.

    And btw, those people hadn’t been democratically elected.

  • C Peterson

    So it was. It’s hard to tell the difference between these wingnuts, isn’t it?

  • thebigJ_A

    Yes, many of the founding fathers WERE deists, or at least non-religious. That statement in the post, at the very least, is inaccurate.

  • Abmvols

    To  Mehta:  I feel sorry for you.
    That being said, I am proud to be one of “them good natured folks”.  If you want to point out that Mitt Romney is Morman, that’s fine.  If you want to show your disdain for organized religion, you didn’t say so in so many words but you pretty clearly come accross that way, then that’s fine.  What is not fine is that you do not point out that Barack Obama was a member of the congregation of Jerimiah Wright for  TWENTY YEARS.  It is one thing to be a member of a particular religious denomination that is in conflicting views that you have of a higher power or not.  It is another thing to follow a man that is an anti-white extremist (Jerimiah Wright), or follow another man that is an Anti-American extremist (Obama’s mentor Frank Davis).  Your failed attempt in painting Mitt Romney as a bad man because he is a member of a religious denomination that is in conflicting beliefs of yours was extremely tacky and showing of an envious and vendictive personality.  Well done in accomplishing the opposite of what you intended.

  • Nate

    I can honestly tell you that, as a member of this Church, he will most definitely use the constitution. We are all told in this Church to be politically active, and our leaders have said countless times the importance of the constitution, and holding up it’s standards, as we believe the men who wrote it were inspired. We can say we are loyal to the Church too. As it does say in Scriptural text, you must obey the laws of the land, which would be our laws we have right now. So, I can say with 100% guarantee that you will have nothing to worry about. 

  • Nate

    I don’t think that is true. The reason being; we recognize that Jesus, son of the Virgin Mary, is the son of god, and is Christ. Is that Different than another view. Also, our Church’s nickname is the Mormons,  but the real name of our church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, with Christ emphasized. Our whole doctrine is centered upon the fact that Christ suffered for our sins in The Garden of Gethsemane, was crucified, and was Resurrected.  

  • Deven Kale

    I was raised a Mormon, still have Mormon family members, and (regrettably) still live in Utah. I know all about the Mormon Jesus and what Mormons believe. It has absolutely nothing to do with Nicene Christianity, and is therefore not something that I would consider Christian.

  • Daviddcook

    One of the worst written articles, trying to come across as journalism. Nothing in this is correct. Also assuming that Mitt Romney believes in “nothing”. There is truly no reason you should have anything published. I am also offended, as I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which is a Christian religion. We pray to Our heavenly Father, starting out prayers by addressing God the Father. We end our prayer with in the name of Jesus Christ Amen. You have no knowledge and like many people fall into the category that would rather continue with lies doing no personal study on the subject. 

  • Deven Kale

     I was raised Mormon, still have Mormon family members, and live in Utah. I know first-hand what Mormonism is, and it’s not Christian. Including Mormonism as a Christian faith requires broadening the meaning of Christian to such a point that it becomes essentially meaningless.

    Mormonism isn’t even monotheistic for gods sake. Look up the term henotheism and you’ll find it much more closely matches the Mormon faith than monotheism ever could. There are more examples of how Mormonism doesn’t fit into Christianity as well, all you need do is honestly look.