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I am age 78, once a Catholic priest for five years (in the 1960's), then a math teacher for 44 years up to the present day. I became an atheist a few years ago. My hobbies are music and chess.
And that is how you piss off a million+ catholics.
Of course you realise they are simply going to parrot that since you do not believe you are not a true vessel of christ blah blah, you cannot transmogrify blah blah.
to parrot that since you do not believe you are not a true vessel of christ blah blah, you cannot transmogrify blah blah.
Well, that would be a heresy. Edward knows his dogma. Once a priest, always a priest, and the intent (or character, or orthodoxy) of the person doing the rite doesn’t make a difference to it’s efficacy.
I’m a cultural catholic, and I find this funny as hell.
You’ve managed to do it again…And, I love you for it! Like most, I’ve met several people in my lifetime – Some who believe in the supernatural, and other who do not. That said, through your videos, I can tell that you are extremely polite…A gentleman, to say the least. Until next time…Keep up the GREAT work and please, continue telling it like it is!
Edward Tarte is polite even when he is pointing out the ridiculous nature of religion.
I love when he talks about the priests’ “magic powers”!
Even though it has been 40-50 years since he was a priest, I believe that Edward has the exact same magic powers that he had then… zippo. I am sure he would agree.
Awesome guy. He should be invited to speak at the American Atheists conference when it is in his home state of Texas next spring.
Hopefully you know that Protestant Christians, evangelicals, etc. do not believe that communion bread transforms into the actual body of Christ, we see it as symbolic. Furthermore, the Bible does not imply that it is actually Christs body.
But most importantly: No where in Christianity does the Bible teach that a single act (Like wasting the leftover bread) would result in damnation. This whole video is AS ridiculous to many Bible reading Christians as it is to many atheists.
Different sects of the xianity cult believe different things.
You are not denying the catholic orthodoxy of transubstantiation…are you?
I have to admit it is pretty damn funny having evangelicals look at catholics as their crazy cousins in this respect.
Unless Catholic orthodoxy has found its way into the Bible, then yes – I am denying it!
I’m sure it seems funny, I get that.
No, he’s asking if you’re denying that transubstantiation is Catholic doctrine, which you aren’t, so he (and I) don’t see the point of your original post.
I find this hilarious that whenever we talk about a certain belief in Christianity. If it’s a Protestant belief, we’ll have Catholics explaining “Well this isn’t what Catholics believe, you see. We believe that [insert superior belief here] is actually correct and this is why…” Or if it’s a Catholic belief, we’ll have Protestants saying “Well that’s just Catholic nonsense! We believe [insert superior belief here] is correct and this is why…”
It reminds me of the joke “but are you a Catholic atheist or a Protestant atheist?”
Don’t worry Blacksheep, we find it all ridiculous.
Most of us here know a lot about religion. Lots of people here were raised Catholic, lots were raised Protestant. And I always find it insulting to have Christians of any denomination come here and tell us that we obviously don’t understand Christianity just because we’re not talking about their favorite brand of it.
I find it pretty ridiculous that you can’t tell from a video involving an ex-Catholic priest and transubstantiation that we’re talking about Catholicism, not every branch of Christianity. Save your comments for a post on evolution.
Not sure why you’re irritated by my post (not directed at you by the way) – would you rather this just be a forum for atheists to agree with one another? You mentioned that a few times to me – that “I came HERE – to an atheist site…”
I realize that the video is from a catholic perspective, but the posts translate it directly into why faith in general is ridiculous. The implication from the video is that somehow it’s Biblical that someone would be damned for throwing away a communion wafer.
Actually, when I said, “You do remember that you’re the one who came
*here,* right? You’re the Christian on the atheist blog.” it was in
response to Randy Gritter. He was saying that atheists weren’t
convincing him that their argument was correct and I was just pointing
out that we had no interest in preaching to him.
However, it bothers me that many of you are constantly pointing out supposed misconceptions about what you believe as if we don’t know. This happens a lot when we’re talking about one branch of Christianity and you jump in and say “Oh, well that’s not what I believe.” So? Then we weren’t talking about what you believe.
As people who see all religions as ridiculous, we have no problem talking about one belief as just one more reason why religion is ridiculous. Yeah, we know not all Christians or all religions believe this, it’s just a small part of a larger discussion about things other people buy into that are really weird.
I have no problem with Christians being here. It keeps things
interesting and you might learn something. I just like to point out that
if you’re here, you can’t accuse us of not convincing you that atheism
is correct because we were never actively trying to do that in the first place. And it’s also rude to come here and assume we know nothing about religion or presume to know the reasons for why we’re atheists (that’s not specifically directed at you, just the Christians that come here in general).
Makes sense Julie, I appreciate that. Where I’m coming from sometimes (not just in this post) is that while many atheists on here know plenty about religion, in fact in many cases much more than (I’m stereotyping) Bible belt Christians, for example – there are also many times when a post by an atheist makes it clear that there is very little understanding of Christian doctrine. Sometimes anger or frustration is based on something that’s not even in the Bible.
And It’s true that I overreact when ex-Christians cite things they were told in the church that are not even in the Bible. Like when a Catholic points out that they were “doomed to hell” if they committed certain specific sins (Like this story about the wafer).
As a former Protestant, I can sympathize. However, I did not see any reason to believe that GodVlogger did not understand that s/he was specifically addressing Catholicism.
We know that Catholics believe many stupid things that aren’t in the Bible, but since we don’t believe in the Bible as true, it’s a non-issue for us unless we’re talking to a Christian about it.
Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit!
You’re not a biscuit, JESUS is a biscuit!
Oh Edward, what have you done, now you’re going to Hell for eating the holy biscuit! All right, all joking aside, this was another great video, sir – thank you for posting it.
Man, I remember the time back in Catholic school (the most effective way to turn a thoughtful child away from religion, btw) they found a holy cracker on the floor of the church after a student mass. They went apeshit! There were group meeting and gestapo-like interrogations for a week, with lectures on the horrors of the vile sin committed. Some sacrilegious hellspawn child had caused Jeebus to get slightly dusty! (I supposed they’d never heard of the five second rule? He was totally still edible!)
It boggled my young mind.
Something similar happened while I was attending Catholic school – the drama was intense. Every nun and priest of our parish came to talk to us during catechism class – separately and on different days. This went on for about a week. I was in fourth grade, and already questioning a lot of things I was told about religion. So on Friday morning mass (which required) and kept the communion wafer on my tongue and tried to “smuggle” it out of church. I wanted to see what would happen. Would lightening strike me down? Would the clergy magically “know” I was doing something bad?
It took me three more tries at three more masses (those wafers dissolve quickly!). And nothing happened. No one noticed, no god struck me down. The “mystery” of communion was gone for me. It was just a piece a bread. Even so, I buried the wafer in front of the statue of Mary during prayers. I knew the communion piece couldn’t harm me (directly or indirectly) but the nuns ands priests still could. So I tried to be discrete. It was my first remembered real defiance and that lead me down the road of thinking critically for myself.
Wait, what? Why’d he just replay an old one? (Though granted it’s one of my favorites.) I figured there’d be some kind of wrap-up at the end or something. Oh well. Still love Edward. He’s a hero.
That video is great! I can imagine all of the crazy catholics going apeshit over this and it makes me laugh. I’m going to send this to the more obnoxious catholic members of my family. Thanks, Edward for another great video.
OK. That made me laugh out loud; excellent video Edward.
And it got me thinking about something…if those magic words change the wafers into the actual body of Jesus during mass, then they put the “leftovers” after communion into the golden chamber (can’t remember what it’s called) for the next mass, why do they have to change them into the body of Jesus again during subsequent masses?
It’s like sticking toast back in the toaster for a few seconds to warm it up. Jesus cools off fast if people aren’t eating him.
My understanding is that the leftovers are not reconsecrated but (a) can be used if the next time more people show up than expected or, more commonly, (b) taken to the sick who couldn’t make the mass.
I was so waiting for him to put honey on it lol
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