Catholic Bishop Orders Reading of Anti-Obama Sermon This Weekend

Back in the spring, Bishop Daniel R. Jenky of the Diocese of Peoria (Illinois) said the following about President Obama:

Bishop Daniel R. Jenky doing his best PZ Myers impression

Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care.

In clear violation of our First Amendment rights, Barack Obama — with his radical, pro abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path.

This fall, every practicing Catholic must vote, and must vote their Catholic consciences, or by the following fall our Catholic schools, our Catholic hospitals, our Catholic Newman Centers, all our public ministries — only excepting our church buildings –- could easily be shut down. Because no Catholic institution, under any circumstance, can ever cooperate with the [intrinsic] evil of killing innocent human life in the womb.

This weekend, Jenky will try one more time to convince Catholics that Obama represents All the Evil by ordering all priests under his watch to read an anti-Obama missive:

Today, Catholic politicians, bureaucrats, and their electoral supporters who callously enable the destruction of innocent human life in the womb also thereby reject Jesus as their Lord. They are objectively guilty of grave sin. For those who hope for salvation, no political loyalty can ever take precedence over loyalty to the Lord Jesus Christ and to his Gospel of Life. God is not mocked, and as the Bible clearly teaches, after this passing instant of life on earth, God’s great mercy in time will give way to God’s perfect judgment in eternity.

In short: Don’t vote for the Christian guy. He hates Jesus. Vote for the Mormon instead!

Oh, wait… Jenky wants to assure you he wasn’t telling anybody how to vote:

“Again, I am not telling you which party or which candidates to vote for or against,” he said. “But I am saying that you need to think and pray very carefully about your vote, because a vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil and gravely sinful makes you morally complicit and places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy.

And I’m not saying Jenky’s an asshole but anyone who instills irrational fear into gullible people in order to achieve his own political whims deserves a bus ticket to hell.

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. You can read much more about him here.

  • Glasofruix

    but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care

    Funny, but during soviet union all of the above were free and of quality never dreamt by US citizens. Heck, even now the education level is quite lacking when compared to those times.

    • ortcutt

       I hate to break it to him, but the vast majority of health care is provided by private non-profit and for-profit hospitals and health plans.  That remains the case under Obamacare.  Of the 5,754 registered hospitals in the US,  only 1,068 are owned and operated by state and local governments, and 213 are owned and operated by the Federal Government (VA and military hospitals, mostly).

    • Foster

      Wow, now you’re defending the Soviet Union?  The evil empire that murdered about twice as many people in concentration camps as Hitler?
      The bishop never questioned that these services were provided by the state, but that the church was not allowed to provide them.  Ha, the “education level”?  What planet do you live on that you think Soviet indoctrination should be emulated?  It doesn’t really matter how good the social services are when you don’t have any food:  

      http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm

      • Glasofruix

          Ha, the “education level”?  What planet do you live on that
        you think Soviet indoctrination should be emulated?

         And you are an idiot, who can’t see past his nose…

         I’m not defending the communist ideology, what i’m saying that under communist rule (at least post WW2) the education and healthcare were top notch, something that even now the educational system you yankees have can’t even come close to to, be it private or state funded.

        Many of “US” scientists post war were in fact russian immigrants who had some disagreements with the soviet regime, and they achieved great things, proof they had great schooling. In fact my mother studied medicine in Russia during those times, for free and with all her food (which was abundant, contrary to the propaganda mr. McCarty wanted to propagat and i’m not even sure you know who that guy was) expenses covered, and young people in general were encouraged to get superior education. Just how much such studies cost in the US, huh? Compare the price of state funded universities and private ones.

      • Coyotenose

        So are you so lacking in reading comprehension that you had to make up something that Glasofruix didn’t say, or are you so dishonest that you had to make up something that Glasofruix didn’t say?

        he literacy rate in Russia for a while was just a hair under 100%. That’s the sort of thing he was talking about. That isn’t defending Totalitarianism. Ironically, you appear to need to learn to read.

        Your pedochurch provides all those things. it’s whining because it isn’t allowed to do them with taxpayer money while illegally discriminating. Get over it.

      • http://twitter.com/silo_mowbray Silo Mowbray

        “What planet do you live on that you think Soviet indoctrination should be emulated?”

        I find this richly ironic given that we’re discussing how a Church leader is demanding the “right” to impose Christianity on the public, and sees the way to this is via voting in the presidential candidate who is pandering to the theocrats.

    • The Other Weirdo

      First of all, these things were never free. Did we have to pay for them directly? No, but that doesn’t mean they were free. They simply took most of the money away in taxes before we ever even saw it. I also seem to recall having operations without painkillers, needing to know someone important to even get into an operating room, pharmacies never having what was required, kids coming out of the education system with ulcers, fire departments waiting until the buildings burnt to the ground before responding, police officers carrying off half a side of beef on the shoulder, the completely empty stores(except bread and noodles). Oh, and as it turned out, the US was giving grain just to keep us from starving because despite having the most arrible land in Europe, our slave class aka the peasants didn’t have roads to deliver their harvests to the cities.

      Odd thing about the slaves: they refused to know their place and kept trying to move to the cities, life on the farm being pretty nasty. Police used to catch them and send them back. They weren’t even allowed passports to keep from moving to the cities permanently. They couldn’t catch everybody, though, so they’d order people from the cities to move to the farms for a few months to do the harvests or everything would just rot in the fields. You could have a relative good life, but only in the major cities, and certainly not on the farms.

      When we were forced to move out of our apartment in Kiev because we got imminent domained by a university, we moved to a new subdivision the gov’t built: 15 highrises outside of town with exactly NINE telephone lines going into it, all payphones outside, not even in the buildings. One bus line serviced everything and we had to form human chains to make them stop for us because it appeared to be below the bus drivers’ dignity to stop for such as us. You know, paying customers.

      I assume you’ve never lived there yourself. I suggest you try it before speaking about it again.

  • Golfie98

    He deserves a large tax bill (which all political lobbyists get)

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GodVlogger?feature=mhee GodVlogger (on YouTube)

    Tax the Churches!!

    • Gringa

      We seriously need people to go to church and record people making these statements, and especially if they mention the candidates by name.  Then deliver that footage to the IRS as proof that they are getting involved with political campaigning and should be taxed. 

      • Catherine

        Standing for the truth, speaking the truth , promoting the truth and educating people on the truth is not a crime. Voting for a government that legalises death of infants is a crime. Hitler still lives in the hearts of many people that support these types of government. And if you vote for pro-death presidents it is as if you will be taking part of the new holocust – where already millions of children have been killed.  One day our humanity will look upon the abortion clinics in the same horror that we look to the death camps in Germany. And of course, I’m not even mentioning euthanasia and the other anti-life agenda of this anti-moral, anti-christ, anti-humanity government. 

        • Deven Kale

          Argumentum ad Hilterum. One of the favorites of those who have no worthwhile argument.

          As for Euthanasia: “the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy.” What’s wrong with that?

  • DougI

    Although a blatant violation of the IRS rules I doubt this hate group will even be investigated.  Heck, they got away with child rape, so what’s a little tax crime?

    • http://www.facebook.com/cecelia.baines.5 Cecelia Baines

      Call them and complain! Seriously; if you are in Illinois, go to the service and picket and protest!!!

       (309) 671-1550

      Take the figtht to them.

      • Stev84

        There is an official moratorium against investigations. And has been for 2-3 years. A high ranking administrator needs to approve investigations into churches. But among internal reorganizations, they haven’t updated their rules. So now they are in a mess.

        And of course if the IRS began to investigate churches, the Republicans would immediately move to slash their budget even further. So they’d be very unlikely to make any serious investigations in any case.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke, Blonde

          i grok what you’re saying from a realpolitik standpoint of “i want to get reelected and i don’t care what it takes, i’ll do it.” but i’ll make two very demonstrable points about why this attitude, on this particular issue, is really frakking stupid:

          name one thing that this administration has offered up in “bipartisan compromise” that has resulted in enough republican votes to pass liberal/progressive legislation. oh, that’s right, you can’t. the ACA is the spectacular example of the failure of “bipartisan compromise” on which the democrats take the public option off the table, and the republicans respond by… not one single member voting in favor of it.

          the other point i’d make is that the queer community is and always has been among the biggest $upporters of both the dem party and obama in general. who is funding the campaign to take away and deny us equal rights? mainly, the RCC and other religious orgs. if he really cared about some of his most loyal supporters, the ban on the IRS investigating would not have been implemented. this is how i know he’s basically a homophobe, along with him dragging his feet until election time to be able to say something as simple as “gays should be able to marry too.” 

          i know yall are gonna vote for the man and love him and think he’s only going to get more liberal in his second term. but mark my words, he won’t. if the IRS starts investigating religious orgs in his second term, i’ll eat this post. but i’m not worried i’ll have to, at all. 

          • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

            I’m pretty sure Obama has nothing to do with the IRS being all hung up in reorganizing itself.

      • Foster

        I think you’ll find that difficult as there is no one service, but the Bishop’s statement will be read at every Mass this weekend at each of the 162 parish churches in the Diocese of Peoria.

        • Thomas Farrell

          That just means you have 162 convenient locations to choose from to protest at.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecelia.baines.5 Cecelia Baines

    Gather everyone you can, go to the church service and when the speech starts, begin calling out “fraud”, “illegal” and “immoral”. Take the fight to them.

    If they want to break the law and politic from the pulpit, then all bets are off. Boycott, picket and VOCALIZE THIS MOTHERFUCKER!@!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecelia.baines.5 Cecelia Baines

    Oh yes, here is the diocese/Bishop’s phone number. FLOOD THEM WITH CALLS!

    (309) 671-1550

    TAKE THE FIGHT TO THEM. All bets are off.

    • http://www.facebook.com/cecelia.baines.5 Cecelia Baines

       (309) 671-1550

      • Foster

        Lol, yeah, *that’s* the way to win hearts and minds.

        • Stev84

           Oh look who is trolling again

          • Foster

            Sorry, Stev84, but I am just awestruck that of all the positive things you could be doing to change the world for the better, even according to your own worldview, CB is encouraging people to spend theirs trolling the Catholic Diocese in Peoria.  The comment intended to reflect *those* thoughts, not as substanceless yelling.  Thanks for holding me accountable.   

            • http://www.facebook.com/cecelia.baines.5 Cecelia Baines

              No Foster – It is not trolling, it is fighting back against a tyrannical and evil company (Catholicism – let’s call it what it really is – a business and company).

              Once again, people like you try to play the victim card and invert things when in fact you are the vile, evil bully.

            • http://twitter.com/InMyUnbelief TCC

              Wait, so voicing your disapproval to the Diocese is “trolling”? Sorry, no.

        • http://www.facebook.com/cecelia.baines.5 Cecelia Baines

          Right….because the Catholic Church is the victim here….Wake up.

        • Coyotenose

           Bush II war rhetoric? Fitting. He was also a dupe whose religion was used to manipulate him into ignorant pronouncements by slime who pretended righteousness.

        • http://twitter.com/silo_mowbray Silo Mowbray

          Some of us aren’t trying to win hearts and minds. Some of us are trying to marginalize theists in public discourse.

          I’m sure you’re familiar with the strategy.

        • Baby_Raptor

          Exactly like condemning people to hell for disagreeing with your opinions, right?

  • vincent

    This man does not belong to a church.

  • C Peterson

    Why aren’t you not saying Henky’s an asshole? Given this, and his past behavior, that’s exactly the correct word to describe him. If his confessor isn’t a proctologist, he’s getting no absolution.

    • Foster

      Maybe he’s judging him from a relativist perspective, in which case according to the Bishop’s Catholic culture that he was raised in, *you* are the “asshole” or cultural equivalent, for advocating the murder of innocent human beings.  After all, according to you, every viewpoint is relative to cultural context and there is no absolute right and wrong, correct?  

      • C Peterson

        He may well believe that I’m an asshole. I have no problem with that. This has nothing to do with relative or absolute morals, however, since functionally there is little difference between the two cases.

        My point was simply that in my eyes, Jenky is an asshole, and I think he is similarly an asshole in the eyes of most people on this forum, and I think that he’s an asshole to Hemant… which is why I argued for simply calling him that in the first place. (Of course, effectively, that’s exactly what Hemant did, via a bit of rhetorical magic.)

        • TnkAgn

          It may be that you, and I, and lots of people on this thread are assholes. But Bishop Jenky is most assuredly one, QED.

      • Glasofruix

        Define murder.

        • WildRumpus67

          Killing zygotes is murder. War is justifiable as long as God is on your side. (/sarcasm)

      • RobMcCune

         So, were you bit by evertoniancalvinist or something?

      • Envy Burger

        The Republicans are as pro-war as you get.  Mitt Romney himself (except in one debate, where he claimed he wasn’t – and naturally that excuses every other time he advocated war, right?) advocates going to war for just about any “insult” to the US.  But as long as you’re blasting away men, women and children of other countries, who cares?  I mean, save the zygote, and fuck the citizens of other countries, right?  Fuck the young men and women who risk their lives to, well, I don’t know, invade other countries, right?  That makes you “pro-life.”  I think that it is in your benefit that your God and his rules don’t actually exist the way you see them – you and your fellow Christians would be the first to burn in hell.  Bush and his Christian administration is responsible for extreme devastation, but that’s ok.  Bush is a hero, for accomplishing absolutely nothing good but murder and economic devastation.  Obama is evil,  though, because he won’t ban abortion (that wouldn’t do a thing to stop abortion anyway).  Seriously, you people are deranged.  

      • Baby_Raptor

        Abortion isn’t murder. You can keep screaming this til the cows come home, but that isn’t going to change anything. And the Right knows this: That’s why they’re illegally enforcing the view via all their BS laws. 

        You know what IS forcing someone innocent to suffer? Forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies because you think a clump of cells is a person. Denying people basic rights because they don’t follow your sexual preferences. Denying people medical care they need because you can’t get your head out of your ass. Not putting child molesters in jail where they belong. 

        • Catherine

          clump of cells IS a person. Obama’s pro-death campaign allows late term abortion (9 months). If you open a window to death, you open many doors. A human being does not look like a 1 year old for all their life, or a 87 year old. We ‘change’. We begin looking like ‘clump of cells’ and if we are blessed to live till we are 100, then we will die looking very different. The way a human being LOOKS in our different stages of life does not determine whether you are MORE human at any given stage. You were you when you were a ‘clump of cells’ and hopefully when you will be old and wrinkly and most old people loose their ability to think, talk, etc. And yet, they are still human. 

  • ortcutt
  • Raising_Rlyeh

    would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care
    Ah yes, the much feared Communist and Fascist bureaus of education, social services and health care. The only point I can agree with him on is education as there was rampant attempts to indoctrinate kids into accepting one particular world view. I guess that makes Catholic Schools more like Hitler and Stalin than Obama.

    • Stev84

      So true. The Catholic Church fires theologians or professors who disagree with official church doctrine. Or doesn’t hire them in the first place. Or doesn’t invite them to talks. They are fascists through and through.

    • Catherine

      The word Catholic means universal. Catholics stands for life and everything that is life-giving and fruitful.  Hitler and Stalin were pro-death, the opposite beliefs of life. 

  • CoboWowbo

    If anyone lives near one of his churches, record the missive. Then send to the IRS.

    The IRS says that information obtained from informants must be reliable, so we need to do more than just send an email to complain. Proof will get the church’s tax-exempt status revoked. Send photos, audio recordings, video recordings, news articles – anything that provides independent proof that the activity has happened.

  • DelAnaya

    All this choice opposition stems from the religious nuts’ insistence that “life begins at conception.” And, of course, they use this to insist that the zygote is a full human being, with all rights, at conception. This is convenient for the wingnuts, because it’s a easily identifiable moment upon which they can apply their definition. I’ve argued that they have legalistically defined this moment without any science justification. What arguments do you use?

    • Randomfactor

       I state that both the unfertilized egg and the sperm cell are separately alive, and thus life began a billion years ago.

    • Coyotenose

       The more people talk about the arguments, the more I lean towards, “It doesn’t matter what is in the woman’s womb, the body still belongs to her.”

    • http://twitter.com/silo_mowbray Silo Mowbray

      I use the argument that defining when life begins in the womb is irrelevant. They’re ignoring the bodily autonomy of a girl or a woman, and that is NOT on.

      For them it’s not even about saving the “babies.” It’s about controlling and punishing women for having sex of their own free will, without external approval of some old men clinging to their privilege. What makes it even more egregious is that religious conservatives can’t even be honest about it. Their entire argument is mendacious at its core.

  • machintelligence

    This fall, every practicing Catholic must vote, and must vote their Catholic consciences, or by the following fall our Catholic schools, our Catholic hospitals, our Catholic Newman Centers, all our public ministries — only excepting our church buildings –- could easily be shut down

    And how is this a bad thing? Buy them out at fire sale prices and merge them into the secular versions of these institutions. Look at the tax advantages!

  • Randomfactor

    That would be the Hitler allied with the Catholic Church who banned abortions, right?  May the parishioners pay this criminal the same attention they give to his birth-control advice.

  • Chris

    When does life begin? If not at conception…. shouldn’t you have some distinct point of beginning? 

    • Stev84

      It’s all arbitrary. The Catholic church wasn’t always so obsessed with conception. In the early days and up to the middle ages they were big on ensoulment. Which happened 40-90 days after conception, which is why they didn’t see early abortion as a bad thing. That only changed in the 17th century.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke, Blonde

      live birth is the beginning of “life.” everything else is development and potential. even the ancients understood this. 

    • Glasofruix

      I don’t care when “life” begins, a lot of stuff is considered as being alive yet i see nobody throwing a tantrum every time they shed some skin. The religious wingnuts just believe that when a sperm touches an ovula Skyfairy magically inserts a soul into the clump of cells and it makes a person.

    • http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/ PsiCop

      Once upon a time, Catholic teaching — based on the writings of St Augustine, and others — was that human life began at quickening (e.g. when the mother senses fetal movement). That was the standard Catholic definition for centuries. It also happened to have been a common definition prior to Christianity (e.g. in several Greek philosophical schools).

      It was only in the nineteenth century that the Church changed its mind on the subject. Hopefully you’re curious as to why the Church — which prides itself on its changeless nature and on standing pat on ancient traditions — suddenly saw fit to dispense with that ancient tradition and changed its teachings?

    • Baby_Raptor

      After going through a pregnancy-Something that I’m assuming you can’t do, since your name sounds male-I came to the conclusion that life begins at viability. When the fetus can reasonably survive without holding me hostage as an incubator. 

      At conception, the thing is nothing but a small clump of cells. ~50% of the naturally miscarry anyway. And of the ones that DO implant, another ~25% never develop. And that’s all with no interference from the mare there…Most of the time before she even knows. So how can you logically be against abortion, when most of the time the conceived little clump never lives anyway? 

      The abortion restriction is fine the way it is. Anything else denies common sense and science. If you choose to do so, fine. Leave my rights not to alone.

    • Sven2547

      Life begets life which begets more life.  An egg cell is a living cell.  So is a sperm cell.
      The fact is, life on Earth began hundreds of millions of years ago, and it’s been living since.  Attempting to pin down a “beginning” to an individual life is an arbitrary and futile exercise.

  • http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/ PsiCop

    Aha, the old reductio ad Hitlerum — the last resort of the furious ideologue. Of course, this is not the first time Jenky has launched an ad Hitlerum at Obama. The man really needs to come up with some new material … something less childish and less fallacious.

  • pissed off atheist

    Can we please say goodbye to the Church’s tax exempt status at long last?!?

  • Corey

    the catholic church is such a joke; vatican is a city that has its own laws, and they knowingly protected child rapist for decades if not centuries, these are just a few of the reasons why they believe breaking some IRS law means nothing. They were/are hardly held accountable for raping children….what can the IRS do that would make it more powerful than US law, where they could actually hold them accountable?   Nothing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vincenzo.palazeti Vincenzo Palazeti

    Father Jenky is preaching that life is the most important thing in this election. As it should be in all cases because human life preservation should always be protected. I find it odd that in the title of this blog it says “FriendlyAtheist”. But I see you belittle a bishop and call people of catholic faith gullible. You are a cause of hate. And he is not doing it for political gains. It is for the Church and protecting life.

    • Deven Kale

       Yes, life is a very important thing. So why would anybody vote for someone who’s advocated for war at every turn, except for one statement at the last debate? If you really care for life, Obama is the clear choice.

    • Earl G.

      You believe that magic is real.  That makes you gullible.  Period.

    • Brian Scott

      Calling people out on terrible arguments is not a cause of hate. Take your well-poisoning elsewhere troll.

  • Michael Koch

    Did the Bishop issue his order before or after his last little boy’s ass fucking

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Kokch/100000074576649 Sandy Kokch

    Errrr…. scuse me Bishop. Don’t you work for the Roman Catholic Church? The same RCC that facilitated and arranged the escape of senior Nazi war criminals to safe havens in S America? The RCC who ignored the evidence reported to it about the death camps by a Nazi whistleblower and hushed the reports up? The RCC who signed one of the first foriegn treaties with Hitler? And the current Pope….wasnt he one of Hitlers Little Drummer Boys?

    Now….what were you saying?

    • The Other Weirdo

       I didn’t know that. I mean I knew about S America, but I didn’t know there were any whistleblower reports that were hushed up.

  • Virginia Rodriguez

    Hypocrites…The Catholic Church would be serious about “defending life” (according to their OWN bizarre beliefs) if they excommunicated Catholic women who are on the pill or use the IUD as BOTH of these methods are considered “abortifacients” by the Church. I just don’t understand why they pick on “abortion” and not “abortifacients” that disallow the implantation of the “tiny person” inside the womb. The IUD and the pill affect the lining of the uterus and thus, the “tiny person” is starved to death, flushed out. According to Catholic insanity, if a woman is on the pill or using an IUD, she has created a concentration camp in her uterus since the womb becomes a hostile environment for “tiny-people-with-souls”. Of course this is madness, but consistent madness is at least….consistent.

  • RobertoTheChi

    Tax the churches!!!

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