Creationist Ken Ham Accuses Pat Robertson of ‘Destructive Teaching’

The Creationist Wars of 2012TM are underway!

It was only a couple of days ago that Pat Robertson said on The 700 Club that the Earth wasn’t created thousands of years ago as many Christians believe:

Look, I know people will probably try to lynch me when I say this, but Bishop Ussher, God bless him, wasn’t inspired by the Lord when he said it all took 6,000 years; it just didn’t!

And you go back in time, you’ve got radiocarbon dating, you’ve got all these things, and you’ve got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time…

If you fight revealed science, you’re going to lose your children! And I believe in telling them the way it was.

Yesterday, Creation Museum founder Ken Ham responded to Robertson’s comments on Facebook:

Not only do we have to work hard to not let our kids be led astray by the anti-God teaching of the secularists, we have to work hard to not let them be led astray by compromising church leaders like Pat Robertson. This excerpt was posted on Youtube by a group that is a project of People For the American Way. Pat Robertson gives more fodder to the secularists. We don’t need enemies from without the church when we have such destructive teaching within the church.

Just to be clear, the guy who denies evolution and thinks dinosaurs and humans were BFFs… just criticized a guy who says we shouldn’t ignore sound science… for “destructive teaching.”

That sound you hear is your head exploding.

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  • Bellj

    Wonders will never cease. Pat Robertson says something reasonable. This may turn the tide for many Christians who feel compelled to “believe” in Creation or go to Hell. Hopefully it will make them open to other ideas as well.

  • C Peterson

    Christian civil war!

  • Sue Blue

    Stop the traffic!  There’s a food fight on the short bus!  

  • TnkAgn

    As we know from the Wars of Reformation, they are the worst.

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    I think the devil just pissed himself from laughing.

  • C Peterson

    In the absence of a theocracy, I’m all for them.

  • Sparkstalker

    I know Robertson’s old….I just hope he was wearing his Depends….

  • Ggsillars

    That’s one smoked Ham.

  • C Peterson

    His producer won’t let him, since they muffle his voice too much for broadcast.

  • Russian Alex

    One can only hope it’s a war of attrition.

  • Annie

    See???  I knew if we were patient enough they’d start to turn on each other.  Whatever will the Christians do?  Now they must assess both sides and think for themselves! 

    Who wants some popcorn?

  • Richard Wade

    We don’t need enemies from without the church when we have such destructive teaching within the church.

    You have no idea how true that is, Ken. Your backward, superstitious obsession with living in the past is eating your religion from the inside. All that secularists really have to do is to keep your eduphobic drones out of power long enough until the Temple of Ignorance implodes with a faint farting sound like a collapsing souffle. 

  • Annie

     ^Hilarious!  But you’ve left me wondering if this would qualify as “bathroom humor”?

  • julie

    I agree with Pat Robertson.


  • Sami Hawkins

    Ken Ham has no ideas what kind of fight he just picked. Pat Robertson was already a religious nut when Ham was still in diapers. A little upstart like him should know better than to try and lecture Robertson on the proper way to be a biblethumping loon!

  • Xaviersp

    You should all go read the comments to Ken Ham’s post…it’s quite up there in entertainment value, very low in intelligence

  • Santiago

    “…it just didnt!”

    I Think Mr Ham should ask Mr Robertson if he was there and see how that goes.

    I for one celebrate these news :)

  • Jeff P

    Maybe Pat will come out as an atheist now. That is probably what the AIG people think. Either that or say he sides with satan.

  • Sven2547

    Yeah, seriously.  I’m still reeling.

  • Adam Patrick

    I just did. I think my IQ took a nosedive.

  • Adam Patrick

    Ham’s right in one way. Robertson does have some pretty destructive teachings. Not for the reason he believes of course. 

  • GloomCookie613

    Extra butter? :D

  • GloomCookie613

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  • Annie

     “with a faint farting sound like a collapsing souffle. ”  The similes and metaphors tonight have been pure poetry.  I love this image.

  • Annie

     Of course!  I like mine with butter, brown sugar and a little ginger.  We must have tasty snacks as we watch the Christians devour each other.

  • Jonas Green

    Stop the presses: Pat Robertson said something positive ???

  • Godlesspanther

    It’s been going on for years. Ham has been launching hatred toward all the xtians who embrace science as well as those who are creationists but not Ham’s version of creationists. 

    Ham got kicked out of a home-schooling conference a few years back for being such a prick. 

  • Keulan

    Fundies fighting fundies. Time to go get some popcorn.

  • David Kopp

    Oohhh, ginger… I must try that

  • Wleebarbo

    holy shit…

  • Aspieguy

    Do keep in mind that Pat is still crazy. He has called for the assassination of world leaders, predicted hurricanes, and claims he can leg press 2000 pounds. Yep, drink one of his miracle shakes, and you can have superpowers.
    Don’t hams come from pigs?

  • Octoberfurst

     I just went there too. Collectively they don’t have the IQ of a gnat. It almost made my head ache to read the comments. The stupid—it burns! It burns! LOL!

  • Kahomono

    That sound you hear is your head exploding.

    Um, no… that sound you hear is the loony xian right imploding.

  • Coyotenose

     The leg press thing always killed me. Even if he magically could press the numbers he claims, he’d quickly go blind from the blood pressure increase on his eyeballs.

  • Gtburns

    Robertson is attached to the gop political machine, he is a major figure. Ham is a nobody. Pat was likely told by the gop masters to tone the yec crap down. As the game has changed post election this brand of stupid is driving the younger votets away. The new major voting block, this is a sign that the right has lost the culture war. Pat will do what they say or not get invited to any more cool parties.

  • JohnnieCanuck

    A person with a watch knows what time it is.
    A person with two watches isn’t so sure.

    That’s always been a favourite of mine since I first came across it. Now I realise it applies to the religious as well. As long as you are only exposed to the teachings of one religion, you can know that it is true. Two or more sets of religious claims, however, and you can’t be so sure.

  • Gary Burnaska

    had such a change on this subject for one reason. Unlike Ham, Robertson
    is well connected with the GOP political machine. A party that got its
    rear handed to them in the recent election. Now for the GOP to still be a
    viable political party it is apparent that they need to modernize to
    attract the younger voters. The creationist crap has to go but the GOP
    cannot just dump the religious right, they have to wean themselves off
    or at least down play them.

    So they give Pat a call and tell him it is time to tone the creationist
    stupid down. Pat will listen, because He still wants to be invited to
    all the cool kid parties, and also the fact that many republicans in
    power who still control the senate also are keen in much of the dirty
    stuff Pat has been into like diamonds in Africa. If He does not listen
    some investigations will come his way.

    Ken Ham is am amateur compared to Pat what we are seeing is just the
    start of the gnawing and gnashing of teeth that is the result of the
    religious conservatives losing the culture war.

  • Gregory Marshall

    Wow, you know you are really on the wrong side of battle when Pat Robertson is more rational than you are.

  • The Other Weirdo

     I like it. I would add, however, that the “knowing” described here may not necessarily be true. Just because you have the only watch in the world doesn’t mean you know what time it is; the watch could be wrong. The difference is whether you know that your information could be wrong.

  • Leonard Kirk


    I was wondering where that banjo music was coming from.

  • abb3w

    All well-done teaching is destructive… of misconceptions.

  • Jennifer

    Yes! More infighting amongst the x-tian leaders! This is cause for great celebration! One can only hope this develops into an all out pissing match, thus taking their attention away from us working so hard to win the ‘War on X-mas’. lol

  • Jennifer

     Richard, your command of our language is nothing short of amazing!

  • Epinephrine


  • Guest

    Wow, just went to that facebook page and read what the SHOCKED xians were saying…

    any one else hear him say that reptiles were on the Earth BEFORE the
    time of the Bible?? That would serve to be quite the enigma, considering
    that Genesis describes how ALL of creation came to being….”This woman deserves her picture next to the phrase “Missing the point entirely”. Its scary how it doesnt even occur to these people that the Bible could be (oh for petes sake, i hate having to pretend that thing is a legitimate source of information…) wrong, or atleast not litteral/accurate.

  • oambitiousone

    BOOM! (cranial explosion complete)

  • Michael Fitz-Gibbon

    I like when one crazy maniac calls out another crazy maniac for not being a crazy enough maniac for his tastes.

  • Jeff Baker

    I thought of these folks when I heard that the Grand Canyon may be older than previously thought!

  • SeekerLancer

    I was waiting eagerly for Ken Ham’s response and it was just as delicious as I had hoped. Best Christmas ever.

  • Tor

    Everything is relative.  Even if your watch is wrong you still eat lunch at noon.

  • lioness

    No, the sound you hear is me roflmao.

  • Tor

    We can only hope and pray.  Oh wait.  I don’t pray.

  • Tor

    This is as good as watching San Francisco liberals go at each other.

  • Michael Schumann

    It is not my brain exploding, it is the teenie tiny brains of the Creationists that are over stressed!

  • Mickey Bitsko

    Schisms? We don’t need no stinking schisms!

  • Greg Tucker

    Really? Creationist crap? Prove to me Mr. Science one thing about evolution that is 100% true AND that can be proven…you will find that evolution is no more than a crack pot THEORY. You do realize Evolution is still classified as a THEORY correct? You know why that is? You probably don’t because mindless drones have taught the evolution crap for so many years as absolute truth you have never really challenged its falsities. Theories are those that can’t be proven beyond doubt…check it out for yourself. Evolution can’t and will never be proven..sorry

  • Kahomono

    OK, got my popcorn.  Let the games begin.

  • Deven Kale

     You’re conflating the common usage of the word theory (a change of meaning based on this same misunderstanding of the actual meaning you have) with the original scientific meaning, which is, “a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.” It’s actually the highest “rank” that any hypothesis can aspire to reach.

    In other words, the fact that it’s actually graduated into a theory is all the proof that I need that it’s true. If you really think you have proof that it’s not true, then I suggest you publish your proof in a scientific journal. You’ll probably win yourself a Nobel prize. If not, you’ll at least have made yourself very (in)famous.

  • Rr

     All of life having a common ancestor is 100% true, look it up. Do you also think humans are special and unique ‘creations,’ and are nothing like lower life forms like say animals?Explain why humans appear to eat, breathe, and shit…just exactly like…animals. Yep humans claiming they are special and not like any other life forms on the earth, yet the evidence says the opposite.

  • Rr

     The shithead you just replied can’t be serious…or can he?Like with all YECs the image I get of any one of them saying any of their silly nonsense as he just did and as you try to explain why they’re incorrect, they, with their fingers in their ears yell la la la la la  It’s comical, didn’t he just read what Herman reported about what Robertson said???Yet he makes his nut filled comment.

  • BK

    Gravity is a theory too.  How do you feel about gravity?