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DarkMatter2525 imagines what would have happened if Eve never ate from the Tree of Knowledge, bringing death and chaos and sin into the world (lots of NSFW graphic cartoon sex):
Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.
I love Darkmatter2525! His videos are great! When I was growing up I remember our preacher saying that had Adam and Eve not sinned that we would all be living in a paradise & death would be unknown to us. Even as a kid I found this puzzling. If nothing ever died then the world would become grossly overpopulated quite quickly
I also pondered about about what life would have been like for us. I assumed we would all be running around naked doing—–what exactly? Screwing? Just hanging out? Chit-chatting with our great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents who would all still be alive? Adam and Eve apparently slept on the ground so would we still be doing that? Would we have built buildings? Done anything? Mind you, I pondered this when I was just a kid. But yet there are adults today who believe this nonsense. It boggles the mind!
I think we have a good case for entrapment here.
Surveys often show that almost half of Americans believe in a literal “Adam and Eve”, which makes me fell embarrassed about my country.
It’s like believing that Humpty Dumpty was a real live talking egg.
Mass delusions on an epic scale.
I hear ya! The gullibility of many of my fellow Americans astonishes me. They’ll believe in anything– ghosts, Bigfoot,, fairies, it doesn’t matter how bizarre the claim there are those who will believe it. I know far too many educated adults who think that Adam & Eve were real people who were talked into eating a magic apple by a talking snake. They really believe this is a true story because the Bible tells them so. But yet if you were to seriously try to tell them that the Humpty Dumpty story was real they would laugh at you—and rightly so! But yet, how different are those stories really? They can believe in a talking snake but not a talking egg?
I’ve heard “Merlin” referred to as an historical show. It’s downright dismaying.
What’s more unbelievable: A talking snake, or that we are the know-it-all, top-dog species in the universe that can deduce anything based on the ability to use one third of our brains? Seems we have two choices:1. Believe we are the top species in all this endless universe, or 2. Believe there might be an entity that has more answers (and proof) than us superspecies, one that might know of a higher being. The first choice requires vast amounts of arrogance and closed-mindedness. If you can believe in the second, I can believe in a God. Merry Christmas y’all!
Exactly! And what about the fact that the all powerful superbeing created the universe JUST FOR US to live in and enjoy. That’s so far from arrogant and closed-minded that i can’t even see it past the glory of almighty god’s incomprehensible plan which is not for me know know but has to be right because i can’t fathom anything beyond that!
“I’ll take false dichotomies for $800, Alex”
Why 2 choices? And who said anything about top species? We are A species of animal on planet Earth. We don’t know what’s out there in the vastness of the universe.
What’s even more unbelievable is that you think you have an argument.
First let me point out to you that 100% of our brain matter is being used, seems quite a wasted effort by evolution to create an organ that only functions at 1/3 it’s capacity. Perhaps though this is indicative of the religious mind.
Secondly it’s grossly ego-centric to believe that homo-sapiens are the top species of life on this planet. You probably think that everything we do, from making bread, to buildings and on to nuclear bombs is some form of miraculous higher intelligence but then why is it that bee’s given simple instructions can differentiate from thousands of pollen collection locations to find exactly what the hive needs. It’s because of evolutionary adaptation, and sorry to say “all that we do” is just that too, an adaptation. All the species of Ants out number us Ten Million to one. Dolphins communicate, have sex for fun and make war. Octopi can figure out complex mazes. And! Don’t get me started on all the adaptations we lack, multi-spectral sight and hearing, vitamin genesis, etc.
Third despite our lack of so many functional adaptations, we have made great progress understanding our limitations, and so far there is no provable physical evidence that suggests we can conduct two way communication, nor sense in any other manner, outside of our known universe, that is to say, from here to a supernatural realm. Furthermore there is no physical evidence that substantiates the implied claims made by religious texts that a supernatural realm even exists. They are merely intelligently manufactured constructs of imagination, another fine adaptation, designed specifically to incite an emotional response in gullible minds, i.e. fear, awe, etc. Another fine adaptation “Gullibility” seems, if used properly, functions to keep the herd out of harms way by creating imaginary lions, tigers and bears (oh my) but used by the wrong hands “i.e. religion” creates demons devils and all powerful supernatural beings.
Lastly it is highly ego-centric, exceptionally arrogant and grossly closed minded to believe that even if there was a super-intelligent being in existence, someplace in the natural world and outside of our imagination, that its entire concern is the welfare of this world or in the very least the welfare of humanity. Hypothetically, it’s plausible that it would be functioning on such a high level that it would be undetectable to our senses entirely. We would have no physical or emotional sense that it exists, totally beyond our comprehension, but not entirely unimaginable. If you are imagining gawd, then what you are imagining is 0.000000001% to the inverse power of 45 of imaginary accuracy.
In other words you have no idea what you are talking about. You are only imagining that you do.
“What’s more unbelievable: A talking snake, or…”
Considering the fact that snakes have no vocal chords, a talking snake. Funny that they don’t since the only thing god took away from them was their legs.
Merry Christmas to you, too.
That was really funny and makes some points I never thought of before, like our immune system being only needed in a world of disease and death.
Creationists like to talk about gaps in the fossil record but they have their own gaps. No-one ever found a fossil of a vegitarian T-rex!
I think when people say they believe in a literal Adam and Eve it’s a tribal thing. I can’t understand how anyone could think that story actually happened.
“No-one ever found a fossil of a vegitarian T-rex!”
That’s cause veggie T-rex is before the fall, and therefore could never die and become fossilized. Keep your fairy tale logic straight!
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