Powerpoint Slides from a Christian Pastor’s Anti-Gay Sermon

Over the weekend, Pastor Will Coats at Newberry Christian Ministries (in South Carolina) gave his second sermon in two weeks about the problems with homosexuality.

Pastor Will Coats

Sure, pastors give anti-gay sermons all the time, but rarely do they have powerpoint presentations to go along with them. And even more rarely do they get uploaded online for the world to see…

You can listen to the sermons here and here (MP3s) and follow along with the slides here and here (PDFs).

A few sample slides are below:

This is the sort of thing Christian pastors are saying to their congregations.

These are the stereotypes and outright lies they’re spreading — with little to no objection from the people sitting in the pews.

This is why gay people (and their allies) have to fight so hard to obtain the same rights straight people have.

Being gay isn’t a disorder. It isn’t the result of some “grand scheme.” It doesn’t make you an inferior person. But these are the ideas that permeate religious mentalities, especially Christian ones.

They won’t stop unless Christians begin to call out their pastors and stop supporting ones who believe this harmful nonsense.

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  • http://twitter.com/TheRedRaptor Rissy

    I don’t know… all those pederast Nazis sure seemed intent on fulfilling that third command and “ruling the world.” Maybe they were just following God’s rigid dictums (huh huh huh) in their own special way.

  • Sami Hawkins

    Are those all the slides? Why does it focus exclusively on gay men with no mention of lesbians? Why is he so obsessed with the subject of male homosexuality that he does weekly presentations on it? Why does he include so many pictures of hunky shirtless men? Has everyone grasped what I’m hinting at or should I go on?

    On a serious note while I’m aware that their are Christians who fight for equality just as hard as we do I’ve never met one. The liberal Christians I’ve met, even the gay ones, always seem far more concerned with whitewashing history than confronting the present. They’ll go on and on about how it’s only a tiny vocal minority of Christians who oppose our rights, no matter how many polls you show them proving otherwise, but when you ask them to actually confront the bigots with the ‘obvious’ proof that the bible supports LBGT people they give excuses.

    I once ran into a gay christian who was so desperate to believe it was just a ‘vocal minority’ who hated him that he was seriously claiming that less than half of Christians oppose our rights and that Proposition 8 only passed because of it’s enormous support among Atheists.

  • Keith Roragen

    I’m guessing he needed an excuse after someone found all of those pictures of half-naked men on his computer.

  • Bengie

    That presentation sure is full of beefcake.

  • Houndentenor

    I had to go through that twice because as a gay man I was distracted by all the photos of hot dudes on those slides. This pastor must have looked through hundreds of pics online to select those which just doesn’t sound like something a straight guy would do. There’s a lot wrong with this, including a reference to some German guy that I, not exactly ignorant of gay history, have never heard of before. Interesting to tie all his homophobia into the Nazis who put gay men and women in concentration camps and forced them to wear pink triangles to identify them. But mostly I can’t believe that anyone who spends this much time looking for pics of hot muscle men is 100% heterosexual. Maybe I should start a pool for how long it takes for this pastor to get caught with doing crystal meth with a male prostitute.

  • Stev84

    And for a moment I thought he could refrain from accidentally projecting his gay porn collection

  • http://twitter.com/FelyxLeiter Felyx Leiter

    RULE THE EARTH
    1) He left out, “Muuuahahahahaha…”
    2) Pastor Coats owes me a new keyboard.

  • Houndentenor

    It really does depend on what kind of Christian church he goes to. The Quakers came out for gay rights in 1950. Yes, 19 years before the Stonewall riots there were Christians advocating for gay rights. There are a lot of pro-gay liberal congregations. They just aren’t the type to show up and protest. If the person you ran into belongs to one of those then he has a point. If they are Baptist or Pentecostal or something like that, then they truly are delusional (although some polling shows that even in those groups younger people are a lot less anti-gay).

  • J_M_Green

    The pastor’s PowerPoint slides are quite homoerotic. Maybe a Freudian slip? Also, he spends some time on explaining the Hebrew word for man meaning ‘erect penis’. I’m sure his congregation was squirming in their seats.

  • Houndentenor

    This is a meme on the right that the Nazi leadership was all closeted homosexuals. It’s an attempt to undercut the horrible things that Nazis actually did to gay people under the third reich. They can’t admit to any evidence of gay people being an oppressed minority and this is the twisted logic they use to deny that.

  • Carpinions

    You can include building the perfect German family unit and heterosexual procreation in that btw, because that’s the obvious historical reality. This pastor is not only insane in his views, he’s factually wrong from A-Z while indicting his own alternative.

  • Sean Santos

    Did anyone else have a guilty laugh at the last slide? I had no idea that *not* ruling the world was a deficiency of homosexuality. Do they want us to try harder?

  • http://www.facebook.com/nclowe Nick Lowe

    Looking through his slides about “Confirmation bias”, there is a delicious irony at work- if you haven’t looked at the whole presentation you need too, I haven’t facepalmed so much in forever!

  • Ross Thompson

    Is he really claiming the George Washington was seen as being among the most physically attractive members of his generation? That a six-pack was seen as a turn-off?

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    Oh great, so now homosexuality was responsible for the rise of the nazi’s and therefore caused the holocaust.

  • Carpinions

    Coats’ PPT set seems to run in flagrant opposition to the very things hyper conservative “Amurka!” traditionalist buffoons hail as the problems with our country, which is that men are becoming feminized, weakened compared to their traditional cultural stations, family roles are flipped with more men staying home for kids, there’s too much sex on TV (of any type, let alone homosexual), etc. So, I’m not sure how Coats logically deduces his argument as the result of over-masculinization, because if you ask many conservative men, such a thing is not even possible, and that the more testosterone in a society, the better (for men) everything will generally be.

    I’d also like to point out that he starts with men + satan, and then never mentions that again (at least not in the slides graciously shown in this blog post). Perhaps someone should send Coats the estimated figures for the number of human beings murders by or in the name of his god in the Bible versus those done the same by Satan. Now there’s a Hitler comparison…

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Homosexuals can’t rule the world? Well, I better tell the gay agenda to scratch that off the to-do list.

    Does anyone see the humor in the slide about purpose? Apparently having no challenges makes you gay. So heaven is full of hot, half-naked gay men?

  • Rain

    I’m so glad the pastor is so totally not gay, making the world safe for totally not gay democracy, unlike the totally gay Nazis.

  • SphericalBunny

    …I had no idea that America’s view of the ideal man was a nutritionally lacking skinny guy with long hair/ a wig.

    Mind blown.

  • k

    What. The slides start with explaining confirmation bias. WHAT?!?

  • http://www.allourlives.org/ TooManyJens

    ” and that Proposition 8 only passed because of it’s enormous support among Atheists.”

    ::blink:: ::blink::

    That’s some impressive avoidance of reality.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=13709847 Bryan Johnson

    Yes, I especially loved the “confirmation bias” slides. It’s clear that Coats was looking in his own reflection in the monitor as he wrote it.

    Also, I did some research on the Wandervoegel he mentions in the full presentation (yes, I was masochistic enough to scroll through all the slides…or maybe I just wanted to ogle all the “beefcake” (as another commenter mentioned) he included). Coats seems to think it was a homoerotic outdoor 24/7 orgy fest (fun!), but according to Wikipedia, it was more like a nationalistic Scouts. And “Wandervoegel” was a catch-all term for a huge range of scouting organizations, each of which had different ideologies, practices, and everything else. And they were all disbanded in favor of the Hitler Youth in 1936, I believe, which certainly suffered no “others”. So once again, his claim that the Nazis were Nazis because they were “hypermasculine homosexuals” is downright stupid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.hinchliffe Jason Hinchliffe

    Bahahahahfffflololoolohgawfucklolhahahahahahahahahah…phew…that’s about the most intelligent response I can muster. From the absurd flows anything. No point, in trying to craft a counterpoint.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Patrick/100000027906887 Adam Patrick

    This is what I thought when that Ugandan pastor showed gay porn to his congregation.

  • Guest

    I wanted to comment on how he translated “Der Eigene” wrong. It’s “The Own” but then I read the rest of the slides and it’s too much to fix. He’d get an F from me and has to start over. in High school. Nazis put gay people in concentration camps. tell me again how the Nazi culture was all about gay men.

  • guest

    I looked it up, the reference is correct. It’s probably just too old to make it into the history (or too weird because, as seen above, is sometimes related to Nazi Germany history)

  • J-Rex

    “What happened to make America change its view of the ideal man?”
    He’s comparing the most important men in the history of our country to pictures of hot guys he found on the internet?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Patrick/100000027906887 Adam Patrick

    I can’t remember if it was the AFA or FRC that said that a while back. Or maybe it was another hate group. They all sound the same to me.

  • Jill Lacious

    Best comment of the day.

  • Sven2547

    This is just a few of the slides. I agree that there seems to be a concentration of attention and dislike of male homosexual relationships, as opposed to female ones. I have two hypotheses (it could be one or both):
    1: There seems to be a lot of dogma regarding what you are and are not allowed to do with your penis. Not so much on the other side of things.

    2: The Christian power structure is generally composed of straight males. I am stereotyping here, but among straight males, lesbianism is generally considered hot, and therefore awesome.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Patrick/100000027906887 Adam Patrick

    One slide said this:

    They are who will attempt to form a culture with
    others who have the same desire to believe the lie.
    To form this new culture, the Believers of the Lie will:

    • share ‘evidence’ that their belief is the truth
    • claim to be oppressed
    • view the ‘oppressors’ as evil
    • believe the ‘oppressors’ must be silenced for the
    good of everybody
    • plan action to oppress the ‘oppressors’
    • take action to oppress the ‘oppressors’

    Hmm…what other group could this apply to?

  • Wild Rumpus

    I want to see Pastor Will Coats debate Pastor Mark Driscoll on hypermasculinity and Christianity…

  • The Other Weirdo

    There are a lot of naked and semi-naked men in that PP presentation. Should I infer something from that?

  • Guest

    According to the Newberry Christian Ministries website, “We do not have a church mortgage nor has God led us to rent a meeting location.” …so maybe there are only a dozen or so really skinny guys and their beards, I mean wives, that get together on weekends to look at slides of hypermasculine men and complain about how unChristian they are…

  • Wild Rumpus

    According to the Newberry Christian Ministries website, “We do not have a church mortgage nor has God led us to rent a meeting location.” …so maybe there are only a dozen or so really skinny guys and their beards, I mean wives, that get together on weekends at each others homes to look at slides of hypermasculine men and complain about how unChristian they are…

  • trj

    Those damn gay Nazis. Good thing they were defeated or we’d all be gay now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Gorton/100000935484610 Nick Gorton

    Oooh! Oooh! I’m a gay man and I’ve never contracted any of those except Giardia (and that I got from a nursing home patient I cared for* in the ER). I break his 100% stat! W00t!

    * Just to clarify for imbeciles like Pastor Coats: by cared for I don’t mean ‘had anal sex with’. I was his physician.

    P.S. Re: Pastor Coats – I think the lady doth protest too much. And he’s got some hot racy pics of gay dudes…. wonder where he found those?

  • Sami Hawkins

    Little known historical fact:

    Washington had abs you could grate cheese on. He won the war by lifting King George over his head and ripping him in half while yelling “Washington mad! Washington smash!”

  • trj

    Rule of thumb: If a Christian organization has the word “Family” in its name, it’s a pretty good bet they are bigots who want to limit the rights of women and gays, and whose idea of “family” is a patriarch who rules over the rest of the household.

  • coyotenose

    Not to mention that if men turn gay because they face no challenges, then gay men would implicitly have to be highly superior to straight men because everything comes easy to them.

  • coyotenose

    Holy Jesus, the irony in all that.

  • Alan Bloor

    I could not stop laughing when I saw this

  • coyotenose

    Actually he wore a set of wooden abs after his original abs fell out (presumably because he intimidated them too much and they got the Vapors.)

    That coin he threw across the Delaware? THAT COIN KILLED CHUCK NORRIS.

  • Thackerie

    Yes. He was. But, apparently, he couldn’t hold a candle to Ben Franklin, who was considered to be something like a rock superstar and sexy as all get out. (Heard it on the History Channel, so it has to be true.)

  • coyotenose

    Man, I’m glad it wasn’t just me that noticed how… unusual… his image
    choices are. Seems like it’s pretty blatant, judging from the other
    comments. I try to avoid the “Christian men who talk about homosexuality must be gay” trope, but this is just. so. SO.

  • Stev84

    It’s true and all detailed in “The Pink Swastika” by Scott Lively:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pink_Swastika

  • jayceegrey

    I don’t know why the lack of inclusion of lesbians, but Christians are telling women what they can/should do with their private bits all. the. time. It’s a favorite pastime. I’d go with #2.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Well, to be honest there are different historical periods that value different things as beauty. For example during the middle ages and fiefdoms pale skin and being larger was attractive because it meant that you didn’t work all day in the hot sun and had enough to eat that you could become fat. All indications of wealth. So, I guess historically money is the ultimate aphrodesiac.

  • baal

    Yeah, I thought the usual line was, “GAYS and the gay agenda are taking over the world!1elventy!” (repent fast before god smites us again)

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    3: women don’t matter

    And a slight correction:”The Christian power structure is generally composed of males who have chosen a straight lifestyle.”

  • Megan

    My favorite proof that Washington was one hot mother fucker.

    http://youtu.be/l7iVsdRbhnc

  • houndies

    interesting that he only picks on gay men, I see nothing of lesbians at all. Plus, he shows an awful lot of naked and shirtless men in his power point. Soooo, methinks he doth protest too much.

  • Houndentenor

    I don’t doubt that this person exists, but it’s typical of this kind of quotemining strategy to pull out some person no one has ever heard of and use them as an example as if they are representative of some larger trend or group.

  • Houndentenor

    I’ve read some things like this recently. They can’t imagine that if gay people “took over” (something unlikely for a group comprising less than 3% of the population to ever do) that they would treat fundamentalist Christians in the same way that those Christians used to treat homosexuals. I don’t see that as 1) possible or 2) something that anyone aspires to (except in jest). Imagine a gay couple’s child coming home and announcing she’s decided that she’s a Pentecostal Christian. What are the chances they’d send them off to some ex-Christian therapy camp? It’s absurd but they can’t imagine that everyone else isn’t as mean-spirited and hateful as they are.

  • Houndentenor

    Agreed. There’s some elements of 1 and 2 but mostly it’s that they don’t think about women as part of this. Also, the bible is oddly silent on female homosexuality.

  • Houndentenor

    Me either. And I know plenty of straight people who’ve had quite a few things off that list.

  • http://twitter.com/mirantula Roberta Miranda

    I heard somewhere that dykes on bikes rule the world. He probably didn’t mention lesbians to avoid contradicting that last slide.

  • fsm

    I would send my kid to an ex-Christian therapy camp. Preferably with shock therapy.

  • RobMcCune

    I don’t think they’ll come to an agreement on stage, but I’m sure they’ll reconcile their differences behind closed doors.

  • Tom

    Well, if he’s trying to point out that being able to think isn’t considered as sexy as it was during the enlightenment, that at least might be approaching a valid point. Of course, in an era where the only mass media was print, rather than televisual or photographic, it’s kind of obvious why rock hard abs might not have reached as wide an audience as simply having something interesting to say.

  • Antinomian

    Pastor Coates appears to have had a lot of sand kicked in his face and his boyfriend stolen….

  • Sven2547

    It’s all false, and the pernicious lies are spouted in “The Pink Swastika” by Scott Lively.

  • Santiago

    :) I look exactly like the Nazy gay statues, for real.

  • TicklishMeerkat

    If “time-traveling Chuck Norris” is not already a movie, it needs to be.

  • http://www.flickr.com/groups/invisiblepinkunicorn Anna

    I’m really not understanding his logic. How are gay men responsible for the popularity of Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other bodybuilder types? Isn’t it the straight boys who are generally enamored with boxers, wrestlers, and action heroes?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Harrison/23417637 Michael Harrison

    Quick warning: I followed a principle similar to this for a while, but the Kaiser Family Foundation tripped me up.

  • Anon

    That medical slide.
    Will the pastor please present the recent, peer-reviewed and accurate statistics from a reliable source which support his claim that ‘nearly 100% of ‘gay’ men’ will contract that list of diseases.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1351473675 Matthew Baker

    Its good to see someone has been reading Scott Lively’s propaganda and used it to justify looking at “research material ” at odd hours while his wife is in bed in his office with the lights off. He might be the type that feels you must “know sin before you can fight sin.”

  • Anon

    Oh I’ll tell you why they didn’t include lesbians.

    Because I would bet you money that this guy is one of those people who thinks that if it doesn’t involve a penis, it doesn’t count as sex (but we’re still abominations for not wanting to have sex with me).

  • Bdole

    NIce slides. Pastor, save everybody a lot of time and just come out of the closet, already.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

    Giardia and Crypto are waterborne illnesses, and cannot be “caught” via anal sex.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

    *cough* we’re grasping something all right….

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

    Wrestling is pretty homoerotic, though — sweaty guys in spandex, grappling at each other, each trying to “pin” the other…

  • Mario Strada

    Slide #4 and #5 in part 1 is amazingly accurate in describing themselves and those like them. It makes you wonder if they ever indulge in introspection of any kind.

    What happens to people when they want to believe something that they know is not true?A series of harmful psychological symptoms ensue.

    Confirmation Bias
    They favor only information that confirms their beliefs
    They reject evidence that opposes their beliefs and become an even stronger believer in the lie they covet,even when the new information proves their belief to be false.

    They are who will attempt to form a culture with others who have the same desire to believe the lie.To form this new culture, the Believers of the Lie will:

    • share ‘evidence’ that their belief is the truth
    • claim to be oppressed
    • view the ‘oppressors’ as evil
    • believe the ‘oppressors’ must be silenced for the good of everybody
    • plan action to oppress the ‘oppressors’
    • take action to oppress the ‘oppressors’
    Believers of the Lie become what they judged -all because they wanted to believe the lie.

  • Jon Peterson

    I dunno, that’s pretty much the centerpiece of his plan. http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2006-08-28

    (I’ll clarify that the author was being satirical; his intent was not one that would offend the equal rights side… but I admit that this strip alone could be muddy if you’re not familiar with previous and subsequent works, and thus don’t have personality context.)

  • 3lemenope

    Obligatory (slightly NSFW)

    “He’ll save children but not the British children…”

    [EDIT: Damn, I see Megan beat me to it down-thread]

  • McAtheist

    lol….I’m straight and i was distracted by all the hot dudes!

  • Thomas

    If they chose the straight lifestyle, then we chose the gay one. And that’s not true. They were born straight, we were born gay. However, they have chosen to lead a lifestyle that tears others down for something they had no control over and is irrelevant to living a moral life.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    I love machall, better than three panel soul imo, and this one is awesome and it is some what relevant

    http://machall.com/view.php?date=2004-05-03

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    “They were born straight”

    The jury is still out on a few of them. In particular this one.

  • coatswg

    Carpinions, I had no idea that anyone would care what I may say in our very tiny church. The emails have been ‘interesting,’ but informative. The only comment I want to make is commending you for accurately picking up on a problem in what I call ‘Churchianity.’ It’s as if there are those in the Church who are also feeling inadequate as men and may even be afraid to discover they don’t measure up. Thus, they rush into whatever seems to be hypermasculine to make themselves ‘feel’ manly. Wild Rumpus’ comment about Pastor Driscoll was humorous, but also correct. I might use some of the comments here and emails I’ve received in this last part of this series. Not to attack or slander by any means. More to show a truth that a number of commenters here have ‘suggested.’ Maybe when I’m done with this series, things will go back to normal for everyone. For me, I prefer pastoring our small church without anyone noticing. Hope you all here will have a very good week. –Pastor Coats

  • Carmelita Spats

    I am the Devil’s advocate and Mr. Satan has NOTHING to do with “hearts of men” as indicated by Pastor Will Coats’ false advertising/false witness (Satan + Hearts of Men=Homosexuality). In fact, Mr. Satan, Jesus, Buddha and Shiva and Allah and Kali and a few others, were having some margaritas and playing poker and tossing
    around recent headlines, when Jesus chimed in that this Pastor Will
    Coats has been, “…a real scab on my big toe for years, I gotta tell
    you.”
    Mr.Satan has NEVER written a book talking smack about God which makes him
    the bigger man so he wants you to understand that it’s only a matter of
    time before you can enjoy a fun ride on the Hypocrisy Bus with free
    vodka Jell-O shooters while you visit the spot where Pastor
    Will-Haggard-Coats receives regular service from a male prostitute.
    You’ll be able to watch him buy a few baggies of crystal meth as he’s seen running into
    walls, bashing his forehead with a large Bible, ramming his Toyota
    Corolla, muttering incoherent lines from “Passion of the Christ” and
    popping Prozac like M&M’s.

  • Houndentenor

    I remember that day in jr high when I thought, “gee, what could I do to get beat up even more!”

  • Greisha

    He is an *ignorant* idiot.

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    I appreciate an alternative to the “fight night” version of masculinity that some churches push. But I’d feel a lot better if I actually believed you would present homosexuality honestly.

    Do you know any gay people who aren’t ashamed and trying to ‘cure’ themselves? If not, maybe you should. You know, they’re just people. Some of them are assholes, and most of them are quite pleasant. Just like straight people. None of them are trying to take over the world, or make anyone else gay, or take away your right to marriage.

  • roberthughmclean

    Those muzzy types don’t really go for the gay thing either. Must be an abrahamic religion conundrum. I guess when your dogma is from the bronze-age is it any wonder?

  • Aspieguy

    Oh, that Satan, the dog. Only he could ally himself with humans to spread homosexuality. All these pastors have to do is rebuke Satan in the precious blood of Jesus. They need to constantly remind Satan that he is defeated, and they should bind him in the name of Jesus. Presto, gay people disappear from society. Problem solved. NOT!

  • PG

    *its

  • Emma Pease

    To be exact some Quaker groups and Quakers started to be supportive very early (other groups have been and are opposed). Quakers have strong views on individuals (male or female, young or old) having inspiration on a matter and other listening and supporting if it seems good. An example of the journey halfway accomplished would be “It is the nature and quality of a relationship that matters: one must not judge it by its outward appearance but by its inner worth. Homosexual affection can be as selfless as heterosexual affection, and therefore we cannot see that it is in some way morally worse” written by a group of British Quakers in 1963.

    A notable early figure would by Bayard Rustin, Quaker, gay, and a major advisor of Martin Luther King and other civil rights leaders.

  • Kimpatu

    The worst thing about that presentation was the apostrophe misuse…

  • Optimist.

    You can only believe these things if you’ve never met an openly gay person. I think these sort of lies actually contribute to people turning away from the church, because these misconceptions are so easily broken.

  • cipher

    Yes, please. Can we send him back in time, then just leave him there?

  • cipher

    I say it all the time: fundamentalists have no sense of irony.

  • cipher

    Pastor Coats just started a blog, “NCM for Men”: http://newberrychristianministries.org/ncmformenblog/

    So far, there is one entry, entitled, “About”:

    Here at NCM for Men blog, we will face the tough topics that men, young and old, face. It will be hard and heavy

    You absolutely cannot make up this stuff.

  • coatswg

    Rich, thanks for this. I had no idea that ‘fight nights’ existed. I also work full-time and have several peers who are homosexual. Apparently form them, I have an unusual lack of ‘gaydar’. So I have to be told when someone is homosexual. Everyone is enjoyable to work with. Several men and one lesbian seem to have a thrill that my wife and I have so many kids. Only one lesbian has caused any problems but she causes problems for a lot of men. I don’t talk to them about their sexuality since we are in working relationships. Thanks again for your comment and the info. Most enlightening.

  • coyotenose

    (Homer Simpson tries to take Bart on “manly” activities out out terror that he might turn gay, and gets his like-minded friends together to go hunting)

    Moe: You ever been hunting before there, Barty?
    Bart: Nope. Something about a bunch of guys, alone, together in the woods… seems kinda gay.
    (awkward silence)
    Homer: (angrily) That is a very immature attitude, young man!

  • coyotenose

    Giggity!

  • coyotenose

    You DO?

    Ah damn, I think my imagination just turned me gay. Fucking Nazis.

  • Megan

    This video cannot be posted too often.

  • bernardaB

    The creator of Xianity, St. Paul, said that men should not marry unless they found it too difficult to be celibate–and I suppose tired of masturbating. Jesus said that men should leave their families to follow him. All his disciples were men. No gayness there obviously. Did Jesus have that good a dick?

  • John (not McCain)

    Yes, he did. And you know how they say His Blood can heal? Guess what His Reproductive Fluid can do!

  • J-C Bertrand

    My, my – pastor Will Coats does protest a bit too loudly. I wonder what he has hanging in his closet.

  • Jereme

    I think Rich Wilson, when saying that they chose a straight lifestyle, maybe referring to the fact that so many of them are actually gay, but they choose to perpetrate a straight lifestyle!

  • Stev84

    Another sarcasm on the interwebs fail :(

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson
  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    The chance that one’s sarcasm will fail is directly proportional to the readership size of the blog, and in particular to the number of people who are unlikely to be familiar with one’s usual position.

    Sadly, I’m finding I have to be a lot more careful these days. And it’s still not working.

  • scott

    ayup. that about sums it up nicely!

  • scott

    Now THIS is the win for best reply of the day!

  • Sven2547

    Sarcasm over the internet is like flipping someone off over the phone. The medium just doesn’t convey the message.

  • NightShine

    Ugh. Christians >>

  • coyotenose

    …seal cracks in linoleum? Hell if I know.

  • coyotenose

    …seal cracks in linoleum? Hell if I know.

  • coatswg

    Adam, that’s the point to show that the gay bigotry is the same as every other group who engage in Confirmation Bias. What you don’t know and didn’t seem to try to investigate is that when I explain something like the above to my congregation, they immediately know I’m applying it to them and me first. I absolutely won’t allow any of us to get away with thinking we are better than any other group. I think on one of these past two sermons you can hear me very strongly point out that any of us could very easily find ourselves in the midst of homosexual activity. One sure way to do grease those rails is to condemn the people involved in homosexual activity. Hope that helps make it clearer. –Pastor Coats

  • coatswg

    Sami, I say in the sermon why I’m focusing only on male homosexuality. The reason for nearly naked men is because when I google “manly men” I get a slew of nearly naked men. The point is that our society has changed what it thinks is manly. Its all in the sermons. Strange that you all aren’t investigating before you comment which renders them as slander rather than informed commentary. This is the kind of thing I would expect from harsh, quick-to-judge commentary on Glen Beck’s website.

  • coatswg

    Sven, I wouldn’t assume that ‘Christian’ power structure is mainly heterosexual. As far as concentrating on male homosexuality, see my comment to Sami. Thanks. –Pastor Coats.

  • coatswg

    Houndentenor: The Bible is not silent on female homosexuality. See Romans 1. It’s in the sermons. –Pastor Coats

  • coatswg

    What you’re saying is very true. Homosexuality has been in the church for centuries and even has ruled it particularly in England. But, that doesn’t change what God has said about being a man or being a woman.

  • coatswg

    You missed the point. But, the humor is well taken. Thanks. –Pastor Coats

  • coatswg

    Now that’s funny! –Pastor Coats

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    any of us could very easily find ourselves in the midst of homosexual activity

    Seriously? HOW? I’m as pro-gay rights as you can get, and there’s no way I could have sex with another man. You’d have to hold a gun to my son’s head, and even then, I’m not sure all bodily functions would co-operate.

    Are you sure you’re not born bisexual, or gay with a bi leaning, and choosing a heterosexual ‘lifestyle’?

  • Houndentenor

    Did you mean this verse:
    “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:” – Romans 1:26
    I suppose you could interpret that to mean that they had been getting some girl on girl action, but that would be an interpretation and something of a stretch if you ask me.

  • Houndentenor

    Nothing changed what the Bible says about slavery but some Christians woke up in the 19th century and realized it was wrong. I’ve actually read the Bible and I have no desire to live in the sexist, racist, homophobic hell that would be a Christian theocracy. If you do, then I suggest you move to Uganda.

  • Houndentenor

    Given the frequency of anti-gay pastors getting caught being gay themselves, it was an obvious conclusion. In other words, we think thou dost protest too much.

  • coatswg

    The Greek word used is ‘thaylus’ which is ‘woman, the female sex’

  • Houndentenor

    And the word(s) translated as “vile affections” and “against nature” are always used for lesbian sex?

  • coatswg

    No. The phrase ‘atimia pathos’ means ‘dishonoring affliction of the mind.’ It is gender-neutral in its use and applies to verses 26 and 27, women and men respectively. You’re missing the word found in these verses that will be your best fodder for attacking Christians from the common feminist, gay, and lesbian premise. It is glaring and yet few if any seem to see it. Do a bit of research and you’ll hit pay dirt. Careful, for it will also be your nemesis.

  • Houndentenor

    Why would anything in the bible be my nemesis. I’m gay and an atheist. I have actually read the entire Bible cover to cover (something I don’t recommend except for sadists). I don’t base my morality on that book and most Christians don’t either. I rarely hear of churches that don’t allow women to speak, for example. Sorry, but it’s most irrelevant. A few good stories (although the narrative for some of those stories, like Samson, could be better). That’s about it.

    Also, thanks for the hot pics in your presentation. Those dudes are HOT.

  • coatswg

    Still, it might be worth investigating.

    Pastor Coats

  • Taccado

    Seems like a certain pastor has spent a lot of time surfing the web to find pictures of shirtless muscular men and naked statues. Assuming that he has used the search words gay, naked man, shirtless, muscular and handsome, he has surely ended up on more than a fair share of X-rated pages.
    It wouldn’t be the first time when a pastor is mixing business with pleasure. Why do I get the feeling there is something more to this dear pastor’s personality than he is letting us know?

  • Sgt. Pepper’s Bleeding Heart

    What happened to American pastors to make them unable to spell “its”, is what I want to know.

  • Sgt. Pepper’s Bleeding Heart

    What happened to American pastors to make them unable to spell “its”, is what I want to know.


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