The Other Side of the Evolution Debate

(In response to this post)

About M J Shepherd

Matthew graduated Louisiana State University in 2009 with a BA in studio art and a minor in art history. He has been drawing cartoons and comics online for several years.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw m6wg4bxw

    It’s turtles all the way down.

    • http://www.processdiary.com Paul Caggegi

      heroes in a halfshell!

      • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

        Turtle power?

        (Oh, I’m showing my age, aren’t I?)

        • coyotenose

          Pssht, you kids these days. I can still recite the entire movie theme song. T-U-R-T-L-E (power)!

          Yes I know the show came first. :P But my copy of the TMNT RPG predates even the show, so there!

          • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

            Let me guess, a fellow child of the ’80′s?

            • coyotenose

              You know it. I wear leg warmers over my parachute pants!

      • Haha USA

        *on* the half shell

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

          *sigh* The original wording in the cartoon theme song was, in fact, “heroes in a half-shell.” Please don’t try to “correct” things you know nothing about.

  • observer

    “Gaia & Uranus”?…I am…oddly intrigued.

    • Achron Timeless

      I’m disturbed that the first thought in my head was “wtf? celestial pegging?”.

    • JohnnieCanuck

      Ouranos, god of the Heavens, was Gaia’s firstborn. She is the goddess of the Earth and created/birthed him. He became her consort. After that it got complicated.

      • coyotenose

        And yet it still had more internal consistency than the Abrahamic religions. Go figure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-De-Fleuriot/611844223 Mike De Fleuriot

    How difficult would it be to take this Barbara Cargill into a TV studio, and give her full unlimited access to the internet, so that she can collect all these problems with evolution that creationism fixes or points out. Include paid membership to peer reviewed paper sites, so nothing is out of her reach.

    Then after say 30 minutes of watching her internet usage, get her to present her case against evolution. But we get to have experts in the field, debunking every thing that she presents. Do this all on live nation wide TV, so that we can get access to as large a group as possible, as well as youtubing it for the future.

    time to wake up, coffee getting cold…. sigh

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke

    oh, you young people and your interwebs. you give me Hope. that Reason may one day prevail. just stop already, Matt. heh.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GodVlogger?feature=mhee GodVlogger (on YouTube)

    Re: the imbalance on the lists shown….

    There are always more possible wrong answers than actual correct answers.

    • C Peterson

      Yes, but the problem is, many people don’t get this. And many people could actually see this cartoon as evidence against evolution- precisely because there are more arguments on the left side!

      A stronger point might have been made with a second easel, this one with “spherical Earth” on the right side, and the left side filled up with other ideas: “flat Earth”, “hollow Earth”, “plate-like Earth”, “Atlas-supported Earth”, “turtle-supported Earth”.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/GodVlogger?feature=mhee GodVlogger (on YouTube)

        Agreed!

  • Rain

    Spaghetti monster should be over on the evolution side. If it had any guts It would fly over there to the other side of the debate. Maybe some day it will grow some meatballs.

  • L.Long

    The main problem here is that is one of their most intelligent arguments.

  • ReasonableRob

    Any sensible creationist would also include Hume’s problem of induction as an argument against the value of scientific enquiry generally. Then proceed to argue for the truth of the existence of God and transcendental idealism as an explanation fora ll that is.

    • Carmelita Spats

      sensible creationist=oxymoron

      delusional creationist=pleonasm

  • http://politicoid.wordpress.com/ the_politicoid

    Interesting. I have written a piece on politicoid which addresses the issue of whether it is reasonable to hold the positions of belief in science and religion at the same time, which you may or may not agree with. I am open to all comments as I think we all need to look at this issue carefully. Have a read if you like…

    • allein

      I think you meant to link to this post? http://politicoid.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/reason-or-unreason-you-decide/
      I’m not much into philosophy; obviously people are capable of compartmentalizing their thinking and living in two worlds, so to speak. I don’t have a problem with those people who are able to do that and keep the religious side of their lives out of the realm of public policy and education. I know plenty of people who are churchgoers and like to post religiousy things on facebook and the like, but otherwise do not base their entire lives on their religion and have no expectation that others should live by their religious precepts. I disagree with their religious views, but I don’t argue with them because they keep it personal and are generally perfectly reasonable people. (Though certain people sending me religious email forwards get on my nerves, I love those people enough to just ignore it. I delete and move on.) I don’t think holding religious views necessarily makes you “unreasonable”; it really depends on what you do with that mindset. It’s the people who think their religion should be injected into our laws and schools that I have a problem with.


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