They Died Because of Their Parents’ Faith

Daniel normally makes monthly videos about the horrible things religion has done over the past month, but his latest video chronicles children who have suffered because of their parents’ unwavering devotion to God. Because who needs a doctor when you have prayer, right?

(Warning: Some NSFL images in there)

Ugh… so disgusting what these parents do.

If you need something happier to read, try this.

(via ConversationWithA)

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.

  • jh

    NSFL?

    • Pepe

      Not Safe For Life

    • Pepe

      Not Safe For Life

    • lefty

      national stupid football league

    • Bad_homonym

      Not Sensible For Logical

  • http://twitter.com/Cos2mwiz2 Cos2mwiz2

    Religious indoctrination is Child Abuse. Period. Belief should be classified as a mental disorder. Sickening.

  • fsm

    Damn you Hemant, that story you posted the link to made me cry. Just when my allergies started to clear. Actually so did the video but that was for all of humanity.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

    As a father I don’t understand how these people could watch their own children die before them. It pains me when my daughter catches a simple cold and somehow these people pray over their dying children without any sort of remorse.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tuibguy Mike Haubrich

      I don’t doubt for one second that they are grieving painfully at the loss of their children, but added on to that is their belief that it was their fault for not being good enough for God to heal their children. And the law, which needs to be aggressively pursued in order to wake these sorts of people up to the fact that what they do in to name of god is not acceptable.

    • latraviata

      My younger son (28) died three years ago from dialyses complications while waiting for his third kidney transplant. His father and I both donated a kidney the first transplant at the age of twelve, the second when he was 21. I know what is is to watch your child sick and suffering, I will not dwell on that. The Netherlands have a law, that as soon as parents put their children at medical risk by refusing treatment, the state takes over and relieves the parents of parental rights for the duration of the medical treatment.

    • Doug Scott

      1+1=2 dude. Your daughter was once *Fetus*, and now she’s a human being. think ’bout *IT* Einstein.

      • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

        This is not the place you want to troll on. Trust me.

        • Doug Scott

          what’s ur problem anyway ? are u so insecure that u actualy blieve peeps care ’bout ur POV ? Newsflash jack … NOT !
          U jus hit & run wit ur idiotic stalements but guess what, we do not respect u or care what u spew, garbage brains.

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

            Go suck a big black dick and choke on it because I know that is what you truly desire. Big black dick going in and out of your mouth.

          • Doug Scott

            you really show ur true colors now idiot. this ain’t the bdn. sorry for ur kids to have to put up wit ur sickness.

        • Doug Scott

          battle of wits, u lose , lack of ammo. bye peace

      • Doug Scott

        wow, threat from a troll, get the bat ready jean

  • http://www.facebook.com/travis.myers.102977 Travis Myers

    What I don’t get is that none of these people seem to deny the fact that doctors could have healed their children; they just say that it would be idolatry if they let the doctors treat them. But then their children don’t get better after praying… so idols are more powerful than God?

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

      According to one lady the devil won and the others I’m sure will play the it was God’s will card.

    • Sylvia Grimes

      No, you see, it was _god’s will_ that their child not heal. Who are they to question _divine will?_

  • Claude

    What could be more perverse than not doing everything in your power to save your own dying child! Unspeakable.

    • pagansister

      Well said, Claude. How can one call themselves a parent and watch just watch your child die? (while praying to an imagined holy being).

  • C Peterson

    The mechanisms that direct evolution are very beautiful in the abstract, but can seem cruel at the level of the individual.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke

      i hate to admit it, but that was my first thought as well.

      • C Peterson

        There’s no reason to feel bad about thinking this way. We can feel for the tragedy of the suffering involved, and at the same time recognize that in another species, observed dispassionately, this would be considered culling.

        • Art_Vandelay

          This is a product of brainwashing; not genetics. None of those kids are born with an inclination to eschew doctors. Even the grandparents were trying to intervene in a few of those cases.

          • C Peterson

            It’s hard to know what all is involved. Certainly, there may be genetic aspects to credulity, just as there are for many psychological and neurological functions. And in humans, cultural ideas themselves are subject to selection mechanisms, so even if no genes were selected against, it’s certain that some memes were.

            • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

              I’ve been speculating that myself lately. Like Michael Shermer’s “you’re better off assuming that the noise in the grass is a lion than nothing”.

              But some people seem to have a need to believe some of the craziest shit. What’s really strange those is that they seem to compartmentalize, and be really good at spotting BS in some areas, but then buy in completely in their own pet areas. At least my anecdotal evidence.

        • Randay

          If a doctor knew about such cases, he might say to those responsible, “Whom are you going to believe, me and modern medicine, or a 2000 year old book?”.

  • Sakura Yumura

    Parents who choose to pray over getting their kids the medical help they deserve are absolutely disgusting and if they have any other kids CPS should be taking them away and the parents charged with negligent manslaughter at the very least

  • http://twitter.com/Sniomhaiche Leslie

    I know I shouldn’t be amazed that these parents will accept other marvels of modern knowledge and technology but draw the line at medical treatment – Incredible. Oh, how I wish I could think of something witty and not ad hominem-esque to say

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke

      i know, right? oh, they’ll buy a 60″ blu ray TV, or drive a fancy new pick up truck instead of riding donkeys to work, and jeebus approves. they’ll have a nice shrimp dinner while wearing poly-material jeans. but medicine and education? works of SATAN.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke

      i know, right? oh, they’ll buy a 60″ blu ray TV, or drive a fancy new pick up truck instead of riding donkeys to work, and jeebus approves. they’ll have a nice shrimp dinner while wearing poly-material jeans. but medicine and education? works of SATAN.

      • Bad_homonym

        At least my church indoc included the idea that modern medicine was directed by god! A student in my school lost an arm because he couldn’t take blood after an accident. I still think his parents ought to be charged. Here in Canada if the courts find out in time, children will be taken from parents and treated as needed.

    • Stev84

      They don’t even refuse some medical knowledge. There was a case in Oregon a while I ago, I think, where the mother wore glasses on the first day in court. After the hypocrisy was pointed out, she left them at home.

      • http://twitter.com/Sniomhaiche Leslie

        Oh yeah, I forgot about that case. Personally, if you’re going to poo-poo modern technology, become a Breatharian and don’t reproduce. I’m all for learning how do do things. Hell, I’m a spinner and a weaver. But I’m also an IT tech. Remember the past but live for tomorrow.

  • Mario Strada

    2:12 Apparently they also don’t believe in Hair styling

  • Writzer

    Maybe God sending people to urge the parents to take their child to a doctor is His way of answering their prayers … there’s this joke: man on the roof of his house, flood waters rising all around, yada, yada, yada … you know the story.

  • Librepensadora

    After reading “The God Delusion,” I considered atheism while continuing to attend church, as I had all my life. I was a lay reader, and the last Sunday I served, the epistle reading was that one from James about calling the elders of the church to anoint the sick and pray over them. The next day FFRF had a news item about the death of a child in this cult. I felt guilt by association because I had proclaimed this message. I became an atheist and never again read aloud any lessons from the book that has caused so much harm, pain, and suffering.

    • Ho Hum

      Yeah it sucks having to be associated with something that looney. I used to go to church where one of the people working there was a pedophile. Luckily my mother did the right thing and we never went back to that church.

      • Librepensadora

        Sorry to have given you the wrong impression. No one at the church where I was lay reader believed in substituting prayers for modern medicine. I just remember that passage from James because it was the next day that I first read about that cult in Oregon that lets their children die.

  • Claude

    If you need something happier to read, try this.

    Thank you for linking to this fabulous story! A must-read, especially after the horrorshow of zombie parents.

    • Bad_homonym

      Wow agreed! That story is amazing! I went from tears of anger to tears of joy! Very fight club, very cathartic!

  • Bad_homonym

    It pisses me off that these monster parents get manslaughter type charges instead of murder one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Drew M.

      There is no intent, or malice aforethought, in these cases. I agree they get off too lightly, but these are not murders in the legal sense.

    • Stev84

      They don’t even get manslaughter in some cases. There are still states that have explicit exemptions for such faith killings that preclude sentencing them for the highest possible crime.

  • gg

    Does it have to be ‘Virgin’ olive oil?? ….

    • Doug Scott

      sic

  • gg

    I wonder if the parents pray over tooth caries, or if they pray those away too. What about eyesight? Do they buy glasses? I’m sure I have seen some of these idiots wearing glasses. Why do eyes and teeth get a pass?

  • Anon
  • Anon

    I wonder how many of these people themselves are only alive because THEIR parents took advantage of modern medicine? How many of them went to doctors as children? How many of them had surgery? Vaccinations? Medicine?

    But what I think this is almost worse is when nature plays into the hands of these people. If you ‘faith heal’ something that would clear up anyway then it plays into the delusion that ‘faith healing’ does something.

  • DougI

    Yeah, maybe Jesus didn’t go to a doctor, then again, Jesus didn’t drive a car or watch tv either.

  • http://anonatheist.wordpress.com/ Mike Hunt

    How were the first group of idiots able to afford such a nice home?

  • Friendly_Autist

    At least we are prosecuting these people, not just ‘respecting their faith.’

  • http://www.facebook.com/mitchell.powell.90 Mitchell Powell

    I almost lost a sister this way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mitchell.powell.90 Mitchell Powell

    I almost lost a sister this way.


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