Tim Tebow, Who Recently Canceled His Appearance at a Bigoted Pastor’s Church, Will Now Speak at Jerry Falwell’s School

A couple of weeks ago, after agreeing to speak at bigoted Pastor Robert Jeffress‘ church, quarterback Tim Tebow changed his mind. He said it was “due to new information that has been brought to my attention.”

What new information was that? Well, you could have taken your pick:

He called Mormomism a “cult” during last year’s Presidential campaign. (As if other religions were perfectly normal.)

He also said: “It’s a fact that [AIDS is] a gay disease so there’s a reasonable reason to exclude gays from the military.”

He once called Planned Parenthood a “slaughterhouse for the unborn.”

Then there was the time he warned other pastors that if they didn’t tell their congregations to vote for the “right” candidate, they were

… no different than German Lutheran pastors who didn’t speak out against Hitler’s growing influence

And we can’t forget the time he asked:

“Do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person — or one who is a born-again follower of the lord Jesus Christ?”

Ultimately, it was agreed by both sides that Tebow would avoid Jeffress’ church in order to stay out of any controversy.

After all that, you have to wonder why Tebow plans to speak this weekend at a conference hosted by a far worse place: Liberty University, founded by the late Jerry Falwell:

Brian Tashman points out the obvious: Jeffress’ comments may have been bad, but the things said by Liberty’s administration and faculty are waaaaaay worse:

Liberty University bans gay students and shut down its College Democrats chapter over the party’s views on gay rights. The university has hosted multiple anti-gay conferences and their law school is being sued over its alleged role in helping Lisa Miller disobey a court order and kidnap her daughter to Central America in order to avoid transferring custody to the girl's other mother, her former partner.

Liberty University’s Vice President and law school dean Mathew Staver has defended the criminalization of homosexuality in Malawi, promoted the dangerous ex-gay therapy and warned that President Obama supports “forced homosexuality.” Furthermore, Staver has claimed that gay rights laws are part of an Antichrist spirit that lead to crime, child molestation and death, along with the destruction of America.

If Jeffress’ anti-gay remarks were too extreme for Tebow, they pale in comparison to the things regularly said by representatives of Liberty University.

Perhaps it is time for Tebow to take another look at some of this “new information” about Liberty.

Damn right. And that list is just the tip of the iceberg.

Tebow is free to visit any place he wants to promote his brand of evangelical Christianity, but we can all shine a spotlight on it and let the world know that Tebow is no role model. His participation lends credence to the awful ideas (and miseducation) promoted by this “university,” not to mention the whole idea of a “men’s conference” centered around sports and the outdoors (because, of course, no women like either of those things).

David Badash also points out that Tebow’s speaking engagement raises another question: What exactly was that “new information” that caused him to cancel his speech at Jeffress’ church?

It’s a question that sports reporters with access to him need to ask — because it would make for one hell of a story.

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. You can read much more about him here.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

    He should just give up football, because he is not that great of a player and charge hundreds of thousands to give speeches. He has that manly man look about him that would draw in plenty of Christian men that will listen to him speak and he wouldn’t even have to worry about getting injured.

    Maybe I should become his next agent.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001627228091 Alexander Ryan

      The only true manly man is the Old Spice Guy.

      • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor
        • observer

          Wtf happend? I was looking at a guy then another guy in my house, then a sexy guy, the same guy, the the same sexy guy. Found myself on a boat, looked at my hand got some…diamond tickets, then I was on a horse.

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

            LMAO!!! I needed that after dealing with a troll.

          • The Other Weirdo

            And I totally recited that in my head in the Old Spice Guy’s voice.

    • Artor

      He has the artfully-maintained George Michael stubble going on, so he can bring in the young Xtian women and conflicted young men, too.

      • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

        He will bring in the conflicted young men. He is an attractive guy with a nice body and if I was back in my early 20′s I would have no problem hooking up with him but he would think it was icky.

        • John (not McCain)

          I seriously doubt he would really think it was icky.

        • RenegadeScholar

          I would have no problem hooking up with him but he would think it was icky.

          I doubt he would think it was icky–because he probably wouldn’t think about it at all. No offense–I’m sure you’re a good looking, sexy guy. It’s just that it probably wouldn’t even occur to him what you wanted.

          He’d probably love to hang out and joke with you, though, apparently he’s a fun guy.

      • RenegadeScholar

        so he can bring in the young Xtian women

        Nothing wrong with attracting the opposite sex. :-)

  • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

    He has to make his money as a public speaker. Gawd knows he’s not going to have a long NFL career, the way he’s been playing.

  • Bob Becker

    Teebow can speak wherever the hell they’ll have him that he wants to speak. Not worth this extensive critique. He’s one if them, poor deluded guy. Speaking at LU is what poor deluded guys… or pandering GP hopefuls …or both….. do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.heberling.18 Jason Heberling

    The reason Tebow cancelled with Jeffress should be plainly obvious. Jeffress was virulently anti-catholic (which I assume was his new information). Tebow’s mentor was Urban Meyer, a staunch Catholic. Tebow still hates muslims, atheists, and (comically) gays. As long as Liberty refrains from too much Catholicism = Satanism, Tebow will have no problem. Also, as an Alabama grad I must tell you, I love the picture.

    • RenegadeScholar

      Tebow still hates muslims, atheists, and (comically) gays.

      Amazing powers of mind-reading that atheism gives you. Almost supernatural. :-)

      The Christians I know–including evangelicals–have many issues and imperfections just like anyone else. But hating is rare among them–and corrected when noticed. They are the gentlest, kindest, people I’ve ever met, and seek only to improve themselves and those around them.

      And no–disagreement and/or disapproval is not the same as hate, despite what leftism preaches.

      That being said, there are many people who call themselves Christians but who act in a very non-Christian way. Really, that’s far less hypocritical than eviro-nuts (and I use the term affectionately) preaching about the problems of carbon emissions while driving to work in a gasoline-powered car, using coal-generated electricity at home, and depending on fossil fuels to ship them their solar panels (manufactured with fossil fuel energy).

      And this is from a former atheist, by the way–so I know all of your arguments.

      • Dezzydez

        Alot of us have different experiences with christians. I see alot of christians trying to force their views into law. For example gay rights. Your disagreement and disapproval comes as laws that violate gay american rights. That is hate whether you couch in terms like issues or imperfections.

  • Miss_Beara

    What is forced homosexuality? I can see a scene ala A Clockwork Orange where they pin your eyelids open while showing images that were saved on a supposedly straight extremely anti gay persons computer.

    • RenegadeScholar

      What is forced homosexuality?

      The best I can determine (based on the context), is that the homosexual agenda (and please don’t pretend there’s not one) is being forced on young people via their required attendance in state-managed classrooms.

      I’m not saying that homosexuals shouldn’t have an agenda. Why not? We all do. But don’t pretend there’s not one, and don’t pretend that statism doesn’t used forced herd-schooling to push its own agenda, along with that of special interest groups who have access to state corridors of power and influence.

      We homeschool and our kids are heads and shoulders above their herd-schooled peers in every regard. I only wish that every parent could have the opportunity to do it–including atheists, Muslims, and anyone who disagrees with me philosophically.

      What do we teach about homosexuality? Not much, really. It’s only recently come up, and all we say is that it is important to treat everyone with dignity and respect, whether we approve of their ways or not. We can accept others without approving of their ways. We also teach that we are all flawed and that the worst sin is selfish pride.

      According to this (link) former homosexual atheist, it is a kind of corrupted pride that leads to homosexuality. But, as a Syracuse University tenured college professor and LGBT activist, that’s her view. I don’t know one way or the other.

      Wouldn’t it be nice if the folks at this website would have the same attitude–that we can accept others without approving of their ways?

      • Dezzydez

        I respect your right to have other views, but you do not have the right to use the law or tax payer money to discriminate against LGBT students in school. We should teach all students to be respectful of each other and that being LGBT is equal to being straight. If you disagree with that you should homeschool your child. On this website we do accept others , but we do not approve behavior that supports bigotry or hate like Mr. Tebow. I’m not sure how you can assume otherwise.

  • Rain

    Presumably he’s speaking for free since it’s all about worshiping Jesus. I don’t think any would want to profit from worship. “Nothing more fulfilling than sharing God’s love.” –Tim Tebow (Yeah I’ll bet.)

  • Fugen

    Not antigay enough?

  • Ryan Jean

    In one of the links about Liberty University’s Law School being sued in the Lisa Miller affair, I ran across this absolute gem (emphasis mine):

    Defendants TRBC [Thomas Road Baptist Church] and its related ministry Liberty University School of Law encouraged its agents to disregard state laws governing parental rights…

    Truer words are rarely spoken.

  • LesterBallard

    Someone should add a speech balloon to that pic that reads “my god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?”.

  • C Peterson

    Where’s the confusion? Tebow is an asshole, it’s that simple. His views are regressive and while his handlers might sometimes manage to alter his course a little, or spin things a bit, he is what he is. Scum. That’s not likely to change so long as he’s a Christian with a pulpit.

    As a guy whose only demonstrated skill is tossing around a bladder, I think it’s sad anybody would care what his personal views are.

    • RenegadeScholar

      Tebow is an asshole….. Scum.

      Is this the kind of acceptance and tolerance that leftism and atheism develop in a person? Is this in some way superior to other points of view? Do you view this as judgmental at all? Do you view your own moral code as superior to Tebow’s and others? Is there anything in leftism and atheism that views it wrong to call people “assholes” and “scum?”

      I think it’s sad anybody would care what his personal views are.

      And yet this article was written by–and read by–people who obviously care about Tebow’s personal views. Why do you?

      • C Peterson

        I absolutely am judgmental of Tebow, and I see no reason to be apologetic for that. My tolerance extends to his right to hold the views he does; that does not mean I need to either accept or tolerate the views themselves. In my opinion, Tebow is an asshole, speaking to an audience of assholes. And yes, I certainly do consider my own moral code to be superior to his, and to everybody else’s as well. That’s what makes it my moral code, after all. When I find a moral precept I find better, I change my own code a little. Within the framework of my own morality, my code is always the best possible for me (which doesn’t mean I always live up to my own standards… who does?)

        I don’t really care about Tebow’s views; I’m concerned that he is influential despite being unqualified, and that this influence helps maintain moral ideas that harm society and individuals.

  • RenegadeScholar

    First visit here…

    Not sure what part of this site is supposed to be “friendly.” Certainly not the comments section.

    • Dezzydez

      Why because we criticized Tebow for speaking at a bigoted and hateful church? We aren’t suppose to say anything?

      • Rwlawoffice

        No it’s because you automatically believe that unless you approve of the homosexual lifestyle you are bigoted and hateful.

        • Dezzydez

          Yes you are. You’re racist if you think blacks are less whites.

    • Rwlawoffice

      I’m a Christian who visits here frequently. You are correct in your assessment about the comments not being friendly to a Christian point of view. You should see some of the hate that has been spewed my way. Most here that scream for tolerance are terribly intolerant of any point of view that differs from theirs. And normally express that with profanity and insults.

      • http://mittenatheist.blogspot.com/ Kari Lynn

        Rejecting unprovable claims is not the same as intolerance. You come to an atheist blog to talk about Christianity and you can bet that you are going to find people who are somewhat hostile to that. Remember that most of us have had horrid experiences with religion, which is why we try to find a safe space to talk.

      • Dezzydez

        Yes we are intolerant of intolerance. Your beliefs discriminate against others and that should criticized heavily and often.

    • http://mittenatheist.blogspot.com/ Kari Lynn

      I don’t recall anyone being less than friendly to you.

  • Bereanman

    As Christians we celebrate Easter as the resurrection of our Lord. You on the other hand celebtrate your day coming soon, April 1st.


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