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They need to play this in churches…
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Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.
That was awesome, and like watching a recap of my deconversion from christianity thanks to the religion classes at my catholic highschool.
“You know God, he works in retardedly mysterious ways.” Lol.
“He starts hearin’ voices, and the voices tell him to go into the next village, kill all the motherf*****s and take all their shit. So that’s what he does.”
A more succinct summary doesn’t exist.
This video reminds me of a thought I had last night, actually.
The religious believe in god, even with problems in the story that they can’t answer. There are many “God works in mysterious ways.” answers when they just can’t understand why god would do something. But they’re okay with it, and still believe in him for other reasons that they think are explained.
The religious tell us we can’t trust science because there are problems scientists can’t answer. Young Earth Creationists (YEC) specifically go after “missing links”. So just because we don’t have one specific fossil that the YEC can say “I accept this as a fossil between this and that” they’ll conclude none of it should be taken seriously, or at least that because there are holes, we shouldn’t accept it unless we have further evidence.
Just one more in a long line of hypocritical actions by the religious.
This is a good point, and we should be careful not to commit the same double-standard in reverse. Atheists often preach that it’s ok to say “I don’t know,” but then criticize theists for saying “the Lord works in mysterious ways,” which is really just Christianese for “I don’t know.” If a Christian asks me what caused the big bang, then it’s my turn to say I don’t know,” although sometimes I translate it into Christianese and say “the universe works in mysterious ways.” Of course the difference is that I’m not claiming to know what the first cause is, and my lack of knowledge coincides perfectly with my lack of belief.
I think the difference is that religious people generally say “mysterious ways” and that’s where they stop. Most atheists are perfectly willing to say “We don’t know but we’re working on it.”
True, but Christians think they’re working on it (albeit fruitlessly) by studying the bible.
Another thing is that gaps in the evidence are not the same as contrary evidence. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN prove a negative by showing that something would be a paradox. If I can show that God’s existence would be paradoxical, va the problem of evil or something, then calling him mysterious won’t fix that; in fact nothing will. The equivalent for evolution would be if we found a rabbit in the precambrian and then said “evolution works in mysterious ways” and continued to teach evolution in schools.
Apologists often say: “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I just wish they would remember that when they start talking about missing links.
I think the real issue is that theists very frequently claim very specific things about their god and appeal to “the Lord works in mysterious ways” when they can’t come up with something compelling to explain a contradiction or a clear problem for their belief. In other words, I would be more likely to accept that response more readily if it didn’t feel so disingenuous. (And I should note that whether it seems disingenuous largely depends on the person and the context.)
Man, that was funny.
The Bible should be taught in schools. In a comparative religion course that teaches the texts honestly. I have no problem with that. It’s just that you have those who think that because Shakespeare mentions the Bible or someone did a painting or sculpture with a Biblical theme, that means the Bible is true and everyone should live by it.
I would like a clean version of this. i might be able to spread the true word with it and help the scales fall of of the eyes of my students.
Pharaoh should have used iron chariots
Maybe he will do that tonight because they left off last week just as he came down with them.
Clearly Mosses is a mutant from the X-Men universe, and one of the side effects from his *bizarre* powers is that he hears voices.
The Bible: alright power-fantasy fiction for the time.
People believing it’s true: kind of embarrassing.
It’s a mixed bag for me. I like the summary, but dislike the narrator.
Very annoying. I could only get through about a minute and a half.
That’s hilarious. I would subscribe to him if I knew he would subscribe to me. (But he won’t because people are snobs.) So the heck with that. I wouldn’t subscribe to Jesus H. Christ himself if he wouldn’t subscribe to me.
I still like how in the view of western culture generally everyone in the Bible is white.
Except for the bad guys.
Some Christians have noted that: http://theamericanjesus.net/?p=8974
4:55: “‘Why the f**k would God send you to set us free? He’s all-powerful, he could just blink his fingers and we’d all instantly be free. It doesn’t make any logical sense.’ And Moses is like, ‘I KNOW RIGHT!’”
I couldn’t make it even an hour into this mini series… It was so inaccurate! I mean, really? I mean, I haven’t forgiven Peter Jackson for what he did to the Lord of the Rings and the Lord of the Rings isn’t my Holy Text! I don’t see how any Christians who have read their Bible can be on board with this thing.
“I don’t see how any Christians who have read their Bible can be on board with this thing.”
I think the resolution to your paradox is in the question.
I was just thinking if River Tam was a Christian, she would have been able to fix the bible and remove all these contradictions, and give us something decent and worthy of a guide to life.
If evolution is true, why do we still have religious fundamentalists ?
Hah! The Smoke Monster!
If you want a serious documentary about Bible Myths, watch the Franco-German ARTE tv series “Corpus Christie” & “The Apocalypse” & “L’Origine du Christianisme”. These are the kind of serious work that ARTE does and not History Channel crap. In fact, why doesn’t it just buy these series. It would save them a lot of production costs & they get the real thing. Go to the ARTE site & do a search on the item. ARTE also does on job on Mahomet and Buddha. For the OT there is a book & documentary “The Bible Unearthed” by Silberman & Finkelstein which debunks those myths. For example, they show that the Exodus never happened.
The Bible Unearthed was one of my required text books for a college anthropology class (cross-listed as religious studies).
About half the class didn’t realize what they were signing up for and
were especially unhappy when we started discussing the many ways that
the archaeological record doesn’t back up the Bible. I still have that
book and I took the class almost 10 years ago.
Those that signed up for the cross-listed religious studies must really have been in for a surprise.:)
If God worked for me, I’d fire him for incompetence.
Meanwhile, he couldn’t have put shampoo in the Garden of Eden?
When I saw Moses struggling down with the tablets all I could think of was: “I bring you these fifteen com….these TEN commandments!”
you left out the crash of the dropped and shattering 3rd tablet.. just been an iFad.. errrrrrrrrrrr.. n/m /snarcasm
funniest yet soberingly accurate thing I’ve seen in a while.
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