Some Advice for Pro-Lifers

I understand why a pro-lifer would start a paragraph like this…

But let’s not forget another tragedy: abortion.

… but don’t preface it with something like this:

President Obama told the country that those who planted the bombs that killed three people and injured over 100 at the Boston Marathon will be prosecuted.

Because you’d have to be a heartless jerk to do something like that.

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.

  • b33bl3br0x

    I suppose it’s my own fault for clicking before checking the destination but I would prefer a warning that I’m clicking through to AiG.

    • JA

      I know, right? But for me, I feel compelled to click a couple random articles and read them. It’s like watching a train wreck, you want to look away, but you just can’t resist watching the disaster unfold.

      • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

        It’s handy to read some of their YEC stuff. Then when someone starts cutting and pasting their arguments, you can know exactly where they’re going to go next and save a bit of time.

        I just wish I could get them to predict my answers from http://talkorigins.org/ and we could save the whole discussion.

        • Charles Honeycutt

          Heehee!

          You reminded me of a debate I had on that issue a couple years back. The other guy claimed he was going to read both Why Evolution is True and Darwin’s Black Box and “compare the evidence.”

          Well, predictably, he didn’t read Coyne’s book. He pretended to, but his critique of it was based on the slipjacket blurb, not the contents. But then he talked vaguely about Behe’s supposed “good points” without being specific as to which ones. So I told him exactly what those points were that he claimed to like but wasn’t willing to mention, explained that I didn’t have to read the book or even do a search to know them because Behe has been so throughly dismantled, and provided links debunking his points.

          The guy absolutely flipped his wig, because I got them right. It’s not that I’m that good or anything, it’s that they’re that ridiculously predictable.

      • b33bl3br0x

        I’m only upset that I didn’t know where I was going before hand. I like to prepare myself and build my intestinal fortitude prior to clicking those links.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke

    i can’t thank you for making me click that link, Hemant. i feel icky.

  • James Robbins

    Hover over the link. It clearly say answersingenesis. Instantly discredited.

    • eonL5

      Doesn’t work on a smartphone browser or tablet, though. Nobody has created a sensible interface for “hover” on those devices, which sucks a big one (lemon, that is. Sucks a big LEMON. Ok?).

  • C Peterson

    You should identify them by what they really are: anti-choicers. And if you don’t think they are well populated by heartless jerks, you’re living in fantasy land.

    • http://absurdlypointless.blogspot.com/ Bubba Tarandfeathered

      Though they always choose to stand behind their Republitard Presidents when they make war.

  • blasphemous_kansan

    Pathetic and sadly not surprising.
    They’re a group whose entire intellectual premise is based on the false equivalence that “fertilized egg = human being”
    False equivalence is pretty much the only card in their deck.

  • Baby_Raptor

    Abortion is not a tragedy, at least in my opinion. And, really, the only person who has the right to decide whether any specific abortion is a bad thing is the woman having it.

    Nobody elses’ opinion matters. Including the AiG Fucks who will use any possible outlet to promote themselves, their agenda and their martyrbating.

    • decathelite

      The real tragedy is thinking it’s ok to prosecute women who have had abortions. Once your wife has had a miscarriage and see how devastated she is at the loss, imagine piling on a criminal investigation to make sure it wasn’t aborted.

      These sickos think that non viable fetuses, including those that don’t develop brains or are a are threat to the life of the mother are more important than incredibly invasive government.

      • Houndentenor

        Whenever someone tells me they want to ban abortion, I always ask what the penalty would be if such a ban would place on the woman who had an abortion. I have never heard anyone answer that question. They know there’s no answer that doesn’t make them sound like an asshole.

    • Spuddie

      Agree 1000%

      I hope you don’t mind if I steal “martyrbating” That is such an awesome expression.

    • Houndentenor

      the tragedy is the high rates of rape and sexual abuse in this country. Then there is the lack of good sex education and a culture in which people who don’t intend to get pregnant (both the men and the women) are having sex without making any efforts to prevent conception. And of course that same lack of effort also leads to the spread of STDs. Yes, there’s a tragedy. Abortion comes at the end of a lost list of things that shouldn’t be happening at the alarming rates they do. There are solutions to these problems. Banning abortion doesn’t solve any of these problems.

  • Charles Honeycutt

    The real tragedy here is Ken Ham’s lack of morality. But let’s not forgot another tragedy: his piglet victims.

  • SeekerLancer

    Nothing new here. I heard this from a few people after Sandy Hook as well. Every time people are killed they get in the face of mourners and try to equate their cause to the tragedy.

    • Sue Blue

      Ditto on that religious couple who let two of their kids die instead of getting medical treatment. Every third comment was some anti-choicer equating the deaths of children with aborting a clump of cells. There was also a case here in Washington where a young man and woman deliberately killed their newborn baby girl. The mother gave birth over a toilet and told the father to get rid of it. The man took the baby out into the woods and tossed it on the ground. When she started to cry he beat her to death. All people commenting on the story were sickened and outraged, but the antichoicers had to come on and ask why “liberal abortion-lovers” were so upset by this and not by abortion. If told about the difference between aborting a centimeter-long object with no neurological function and brutally beating a living, breathing, neurologically-intact independently-functioning newborn to death, they drag out the partial-birth abortion trope.

  • The Captain

    Well at least I’ll give him a “bit” of credit…. he actually seems to somewhat believes the crap that comes out of his mouth. He’s calling for the prosecution of doctors and nurses for murder, which is a step to him acting according to his claimed beliefs (that a fetus is in fact a “baby” and abortion “murder” but it’s an odd one.

    First, why just doctors and nurses (and government officials) and not the woman?! That’s like saying that you should prosecute hit men, but not the people that hire them. If a woman willingly goes in for an abortion then she is just as accountable as the doctor, so balls up Ken and call to throw those women in jail or drop the whole damn drama queen finger pointing at doctors.

    Second, he’s still either a giant pussy or drama queen. He thinks 3000 kids are being murdered a day, and all he does is bitch about it on the internet. Frankly and sadly at this point the only anti-abortionist that I think really believe the shit that comes out of their mouths are the ones that kill doctors. The rest are just hyper drama queens who use overdramatic language.

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.grimm.14 Paul Grimm

    The real tragedy here is the lack of coverage on the Kermit gosnell case

    • blasphemous_kansan

      Actually, the real tragedy here is the lack of coverage about the growing cholesterol crisis in America. Trans fats and heart disease are the real killers!!

      I can be off topic, too!

      • http://www.facebook.com/paul.grimm.14 Paul Grimm

        Look at the tags categories abortion

        • blasphemous_kansan

          I did, and I fail to see your point.

          While we’re throwing out sarcastic suggestions, mine to you is that you read the actual article under discussion, then take another swing at a relevant comment.

          Or you could start your own blog and then you can give coverage to whatever issues you want.

          Attempting to dictate the content of private blogging networks makes you looks really silly, regardless of the topic. If one does not like the quality of ‘coverage’ of a private media outlet then step 1) is to go away.

    • Carmelita Spats

      The real tragedy is the use of chemical contraception by
      women (pill and IUD) which creates a Dachau-In-Utero whereby “tiny
      people” cannot implant themselves in the uterine lining and thus are
      STARVED…I said STARVED…to death! Why won’t anyone think about the
      children: the little semen demons? Every female on the birth control pill
      or IUD is endangering BABIES…Fortunately, the Righteous Roman
      Catholic Church is concerned about those uterine killing fields. They have informed us that “The Pill Kills”. Oh. Noes! Maladjusted virgins (priests) shall inspect sacramental vulvas for any trace of an IUD. Catholic women on the birth control pill shall be excommunicated for the wanton endangerment of zygotes. Praise!

      http://www.thepillkills.com/

  • http://www.everydayintheparkwithgeorge.com/ Matt Eggler

    The tragedy is the poverty and poor education that leads to most abortions.

    • http://absurdlypointless.blogspot.com/ Bubba Tarandfeathered

      It’s ironic how the extreme opposite of this statement “wealthy and richly educated” results in families with few or no children being born.

  • Duke OfOmnium

    No matter what the topic is, these soi-disant “pro lifers” simply cannot keep their filthy little minds out of someone else’s uterus

  • http://sopheliajapan.blogspot.jp/ Sophelia
  • Carpinions

    More evidence the anti-choice crowd will stop at nothing and use anything to achieve their goal. There is seemingly no subject they can’t twist into a sob story about an egg and a sperm being disallowed the “right” to co-mingle. It is stunning that abortion remains – unfortunately – one of the most talked about issues in a world where global unemployment has probably never been so high, and when we face so many other real, pressing problems.

  • http://fractalheretic.blogspot.com/ Fractal Heretic

    Some advice for pro-choicers: Try to remember that pro-lifers are operating on the premise that abortion = murder. Most of the crazy sounding things that they say do logically follow from that premise. You’re hacking at the branches, not the root.

  • DougI

    Antis aren’t known for their morals.

  • SinginDiva721

    I perused around the AiG sight for a bit. I’m pretty sure some of my brain cells committed suicide after reading the stupid on some of those pages. I will never understand the YEC point of view Never.

  • kaydenpat

    So does the pro-lifer also think that miscarriages are tragedies?


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