When Atheists Criticize School Prayer, It’s Not Because We’re ‘Offended’

On his show this week, Glenn Beck spoke about Jonathan Hardwick‘s Christian graduation prayer at Lincoln County High School and the fact that atheist students successfully stopped a formal prayer from taking place at the ceremony. Beck argued that atheists tried to stop it because they were offended… and no one has a right not to be offended:

After playing a clip of the prayer and the audience’s rousing applause, Beck says:

I think the school should get a very clear message that the people… in this town say “Enough is enough.” Now, that’s not a hateful thing against atheists… It’s really not. I don’t understand — I really don’t understand… You don’t have the right to not be offended. My gosh…

You know who’s going to survive in the end?… I contend it will be the people of faith or the people who are currently being ostracized because of their point of view. The people who this system has beaten up and told to shut up for a very long time. Because there’s not hatred in our hearts…

He says a bunch of other nonsensical things, too — what’s new? — but let’s talk for a moment about the “offended” comment. We hear that a lot, every time an atheist speaks up about a violation of church/state separation, right-wingers love to say their prayers are made in good faith and they’re not trying to offend anybody so stop being offended.

Of course, “offense” has little to do with it. That’s not why we file lawsuits or make big deals out of these situations. It’s about not letting the majority’s religion become the school’s official religion, which a formal prayer does. It’s about making a ceremony that’s supposed to be for everybody truly inclusive. It’s about honoring the Constitution when Christians try to override it — something you would think even Beck would appreciate.

It doesn’t matter what the prayer sounded like or what the intentions of the speaker were. Even if Christians dominate the community, they have no right to turn a public school ceremony into another church service. What Hardwick did may have been considered private, protected speech, but he inadvertently slammed non-Christians in the process. (Keep in mind that Beck thinks Christians are the ones being ostracized in all of this.) It’s much worse, though, when the prayer comes from a school official.

Beck’s commentary doesn’t really even make sense — again, what’s new? — since the atheists who stopped the formal invocation prayers weren’t “offended” in the first place:

Bradley Chester, a graduating senior, is an atheist and one of the students who approached [Principal Tim] Godbey about not having prayer at graduation.

“I feel like you shouldn’t force your religion upon anybody,” Chester said in an interview with WKYT in Lexington. “And a lot of people are saying if there are prayers at graduation, you don’t have to participate, you can sit there and not listen, close your ears. Well, one, it’s my graduation. I shouldn’t have to close my ears.

“This is a place for school, not a church. I feel like I’m graduating from Lincoln County High, not Lincoln County Church.”

Chester and his allies wanted to make their graduation comfortable for everybody. They didn’t want the school to announce that God didn’t exist; they just wanted a ceremony that didn’t elevate one religion to a special level and they were right to do that.

Hardwick and Beck may not be capable of putting themselves in the shoes of people who don’t believe in God, but atheists know the feeling of exclusion very well. Even if the majority of people in the audience wanted to hear it, the prayers were better left said in the car on the way to the event, not at the microphone during it.

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  • Hat Stealer

    So if employees want their employers to pay for birth control, the employer has to do it, because they don’t have the right to not be offended?

    Okee-dokee.

    • Frank Mitchell

      No, “endorsing” birth control — even if it costs the employer nothing — tramples on the employer’s freedom of (Christian) religion. Public officials saying Christian prayers in their official capacity is OK, because they’re merely OFFENDING atheists, pagans, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, and others who don’t worship the right god in the right way. It’s TOTALLY different.

      The wonderful thing about the U.S. of A., is that we have freedom of religion: Catholic (i.e. pagan worship of Semiramis), Lutheran (i.e. Marxist-Leninist heretics), or Independent Baptist (i.e. the religion of Jesus passed directly through the Apostles). Oh, and weirdo cults like the Quakers, Presbyterians, Methodists, Episcopalians, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, and so forth. You can worship Jesus however you want, even if it’s wrong! Who could ask for anything more?

      • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

        Employers –that is, incorporated entities that are legal fictions for the purpose of enforcing contracts– have no freedom of religion. People do have freedom of religion. The freedom of religion of the employee (access to contraception if ze has no religious objections) overrides any objections of the employer.

        Yes, I realize you’re being totally facetious and Poe-ish. But still …

        • Frank Mitchell

          Not all employers are corporations. Have you no pity for the independent business owner, making a measly $700,000 a year, cruelly oppressed by his minimum-wage employees who demand that their boss subsidize their $100-a-month birth control? Because they’re too selfish to raise eighteen children like Jesus wants? “How will I feed them? How will I educate them? How do I keep them from a life of crime? I’ll have to go on welfare!* Waaah!” Maybe they should have thought of that before being born women.

          Plus all companies are incorporated Christian. It’s in the Declaration of Independence or something.

          * Like anyone HAS to go on welfare. They could simply die, and thereby decrease the surplus population.

          • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

            I laughed. And then I sighed. I’ve actually heard people say very similar things except they weren’t joking.

            • Frank Mitchell

              I’m stuck in Texas for the foreseeable future. I share your pain.

              • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

                Hey, I live in Texas, we can suffer together!

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  Yay, loveless, joyless atheism does bring people together! But if only you didn’t spontaneously break out in boils shaped like Nietzsche quotes at the sight of a sunrise or a rainbow, you might find Jesus.

                • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

                  *Blink blink* How very random of you. But I giggled, so it worked!

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  It was sort of a medley of the Stephen King thing and the Pope thing tacked on pointlessly at the end as a cheap shot as an homage to the kind of arguments they present.

        • C.L. Honeycutt

          And on a tangent of that, if corporations are “people” as Beck’s lot now claim, then Constitutionally they cannot be subject to different laws than non-corporate citizens, so therefore every government-related benefit of incorporating is illegal. :P

          • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

            If corporations are people, they should pay their damn taxes.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Kevin_Of_Bangor

    The message was very clear. All those that are not Christians can fuck off.

  • WallofSleep

    “I don’t understand — I really don’t understand… ”

    Having seen/heard some of his work over the years, I can confirm this with certainty.

  • Matthew Baker

    “i don’t really understand” isn’t that Glenn Beck’s mission statement?

  • http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/ PsiCop

    Re: Beck quotation, “You don’t have the right to not be offended.”

    I hope Beckie-boy … you know, the guy who’s offended that a Democrat is in the White House, and that atheists exist … notes the irony that this same aphorism applies to him as much as it does to anyone else.

    • viaten

      It surprises me a little that Beck would consider atheists as people who could legitimately be offended. Isn’t it usually something like unjustified anger?

  • Rain

    Because there’s not hatred in our hearts…

    I guess it’s possible he doesn’t actually hate his audience when he hucksters them every single day. I wouldn’t exactly call it love though.

    • Frank Mitchell

      No, there’s only love in their hearts. The same love they have for gays, Muslims, and liberals.

      • Octoberfurst

        So true. Have you ever read any of the comments on The Blaze’s website? I have and it ain’t pretty. Beckies audience is full of gay-haters, Muslim-haters, liberal-haters. Frankly they hate anyone who isn’t White, straight, ultra-right-wing, Christian—well, honestly anyone who isn’t EXACTLY like them. They’re the REAL Americans you see. Everyone else doesn’t belong here. But Beck continues to say that his side only has “love” in their hearts. Uh-huh. Right.

        • mroge

          That is the Great Lie of many Christians. They “LOVE” people enough to tell them the “TRUTH” That way they can justify every vile thing they say and not feel a twinge of guilt.

          I once posted on a conservative Christian website and I made the mistake of critisizing some of the republican candidates. Before that no one had a problem and in fact liked my comments. After that I was an “evil muslim” and I was literally stalked by a woman there who had to let everyone know that I was a “muslim in disguise” whenever I tried to engage anyone in a conversation. I reported her to the moderator of the site and I was chastized for not being “tolerant” of other people’s opinions! It hurt my pride to leave and let this woman win but I had no choice. But actually it is probably best to avoid such people as much as I can.

          • Octoberfurst

            So true! I have posted on right-wing websites and they can be nasty if you go against the group-think that goes on there. I too have been called a “Muslim” simply for standing up for the rights of the people in the Arab world. But usually they use terms like “libtard” or “traitor” to describe me. I guess it just goes with the territory. But what reallty galls me is often the board moderator will delete my comments. (They really don’t want their sheep to hear other opinions obviously.)

            • mroge

              That is too bad that your comments get deleted. I happen to think it is important to hear opinions that I may disagree with. I am not afraid of learning something and at times I actually find myself agreeing with someone’s point.In fact reading the atheistic viewpoint I think has helped me a lot in my own growth, not because I have decided to not believe in God anymore, but to force me to actually think about what I believe. There are a lot of problems with religion and it really does help to have an outsider’s point of view, just like it helps to have the viewpoint of a marriage counseler when a couple is having trouble getting along. I have to admit that I don’t think religion has all the answers and it is absurd to say that it does.

              As far as these websites trying to protect their flock, really that is kind of silly. These people live in wilfull ignorance anyway. It isn’t like centuries ago when the Catholic church had control of all doctrine and all learning. People are literate and the internet has made it so easy to find any information you want. All they can do is try to keep their sheep from wandering, but as they say “the truth is out there.”

  • C Peterson

    Personally, I am offended by prayer in school. Not by the prayer itself, but by the implied government endorsement of prayer. That is unconstitutional, and I do have a right not to be offended by that!

    • Gary

      I agree. It has everything to do with being offended. It’s unconstitutional because it is offensive.

      • C Peterson

        Not at all. There is no constitutional right to not be offended.

        It is offensive because it is unconstitutional, not the other way around.

  • SeekerLancer

    Because Glenn Beck is so civil about things that offend him, right?

    • baal

      Well, he is civil for a second or two before breaking out the chalk board and tying whatever it is to Hitler’s Muslim take over of the U.S.A.!

  • DougI

    Glenn Beck is nothing more than a troll. Sure, he’s a well-paid, professional troll but nonetheless, he’s still a troll. Best not to feed the trolls.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke

      this.

      • C.L. Honeycutt

        See above.

    • SphericalBunny

      If we could ignore all the loud, obnoxious, public faces of religion, then there would be no religious trolls to feed – the festering wound does not heal. The only reason we hear about this type of religious troll is because they get ample airtime. Ignoring, or not feeding, them has done little to no good. Why is loudly decrying them (or, for that matter, giving space to those that think it’s a non-productive course of action) a bad thing?

      I vaguely remember (and a lot of people have seen) the good ol’ days when women were portrayed as house servants, and ‘blacks’ (*insert racial minority here) were only on-screen as janitors or villians. These stereotypes were widely publicised and eventually (slowly; getting there; are being) criticized. Trolls they may be, but sometimes you need to repeatedly point and label whilst running away to identify them as trolls before people go, ‘Shit, me/my offspring/my loved ones might be in danger!’

      TL:DR Troll POV is valid, so is pointing and laughing.

      • DougI

        Ignoring them reduces the size of their audience. It’s like the media blackout of the Phelps family in Kansas. They can have a protest in the middle of the city and barely anyone knows about it because none of the media, at least here in Wichita, ever covers them. Yet, when the media reports on every attention seeking temper tantrum of Beck’s he get his message out to millions more people.

        There is nothing new coming out of trolls like Beck or Alex Jones. They were so obscure years ago but the media kept on paying more and more attention to them that now they are given the impression that they are people of note worthy to listen to. It’s like if the media covered the rantings of some schizophrenic on a street corner shouting at a fire hydrant.

        Then again, it’s a sad state of media that we have that is often more focused on entertainment and ratings than covering actual news.

        • C.L. Honeycutt

          The Phelpses have no way to get coverage other than through media they don’t control. Beck is part of the media and has the money to reach out whether or not anyone else covers him. The situations aren’t comparable.

          For them to move the Overton Window requires that the moderate-by-comparison crazies like Beck NOT be covered when they act vile, while the extreme examples like WBC get the coverage. Those who oppose Beck’s ilk must do the opposite: ignore the extreme end and focus on the Becks of the world, who are trying to fly under the radar just enough to gradually make the public see them as the baseline for normal while still riling their base. Glenn Beck understands this perfectly; that why he wrote (rather, paid someone to write) The Overton Window. He was trying to apply the concept to his opponents preemptively, because the first accuser always has more credibility in the public’s eye.

          You’ve got it backwards. Beck didn’t become famous because people were attacking him. He became famous because rational, egotistical, sociopathic people like him dumped money into him because he was skilled at convincing the rubes. These people aren’t mentally ill; they’re sane and just don’t care about anyone else.

    • C.L. Honeycutt

      We have overwhelming evidence that ignoring people like this allows them to grow stronger.

      • WallofSleep

        I tend to agree. Better to shine some sunlight on the cockroaches than pretend they don’t exist.

      • baal

        ‘overwhelming’<-cite please

        Eh, sometimes yes some times no. It depends on the cockroach and the context.

  • chriskim

    Did he really say that Atheists are “the ones with all the power?” I think he even referred to us as gullible. Oh the hypocrisy of this guy.

    • Miss_Beara

      Maybe he was referring to the countless number of presidents and congressmen/women who were atheists and the atheists that are demanding tax exemption and refusal to pay for utilities and the atheists that are demanding unequal rights because some ancient atheist book tells them that is what an atheist god wants… right? No?

  • Tobias2772

    If intelligent people really had the right to NOT be offended, then Glenn Beck would never be allowed near a microphone again.

  • Mike De Fleuriot

    Why is it that atheists always think theist should be fair and equal? That is something that they will never been, their world-view does not allow that, and atheists should learn this and factor it in with their deals with the religious world. A hint should be evident how the religious treat those who do not believe in the exact same gods as they do.

    If they are like that to other religious, what chance does the atheist have?

  • Miss_Beara

    Atheist groups propose ads on public transportation that only say Atheist, they scream I’M OFFENDED!

    Criticism and opposing public school prayer because it is unconstitutional, they say we don’t have the right to be offended, or whatever he was trying to say.

    And, Christians are being ostracized in this country where an overwhelming number of people identify as Christian? Surely you jest. They sure love their persecution complex.

  • mroge

    Of course these numbnuts don’t get that by doing this that their freedom of religion is being protected! Of course they would be offended if muslim prayers were said! But I have come to believe that Christians have a different definition of religious freedom than the rest of us. Maybe it goes back to the first colonists who came here who were fleeing religious persecution. I always thought from the history books that these people believed in religious freedom for everyone. But now I realize that they only believed in the freedom to believe in their version of Christianity as the right one as opposed to the wrong version of their persecuters Maybe I am naive to have not realized that before. Many of them set up their own ways of persecuting others who didn’t tow the line which was pretty much the same as the religion that they fled from.

    So how does that translate to now? Christians believe that religious freedom is the freedom for everyone to believe as they do because their religion is the “right one’. So therefore they feel ‘persecuted” if someone disagrees with them. They feel persecuted when someone says that other beliefs are equal to theirs under the law.If Christian charter schools can get taxpayer money and someone points out that to be fair the same rule applies to muslim schools then they throw a hissy fit. Then they try to twist the constitution into saying that it only supports Christian beliefs. Never mind that not all of the founding fathers were Christian. Thomas Jefferson made it very clear that he felt that our country should be inclusive of other belief systems and religions.

    I don’t know whether any atheists were involved. It would be interesting to find out.

    I am not an atheist myself but it makes my blood boil to see this going on. I am not a Christian either. I don’t believe God has a religion. So from that standpoint I do not support the idea that one belief system has a right to dominate over another in the public sector. People can believe what they want in private. But it is every person’s interest to protect our cherished freedoms an that includes Christians as well. Again if they don’t like it then they have to think about that at some point someone might insist on violating their freedoms by having muslim prayers in the schools and they wouldn’t like that!

    • WallofSleep

      The framers of our constitution may have believed in freedom of religion and freedom from religious persecution, but the early Puritan settlers that came here did not. The fled here because they were not allowed to be the persecuting dicks they wanted to be in their home countries.

      That’s where the phrase “a wall of separation between church and state” comes in, which Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists of Connecticut, assuring them that our form of gov’t was forbidden to establish a state religion. The baptists, being the minority religion in their state, were worried that the (different type of) christian majority in their state would establish an official religion and begin persecuting them, as various majority christian groups had done to various minority christian groups prior to the formation of the United States. Or something like that. I may be fuzzy on the details.

      • mroge

        Ah, thanks for clarifying that for me. I really need to learn more history. because I think it is very relevant to what is going on now.

      • mroge

        What worries me now is that the far right is coming very close to advocating a theocracy in this country. Now maybe I shouldn’t be too worried because I don’t know that it is likely that they would succed in actually doing that. However we have idiots like Pat Robertson and others who are talking about churches taking over the schools and even denying citizenship to anyone who is not baptized. My question for them would be where on earth has a theocracy ever actually worked without decending into barbarism and oppression? They might cite the Hebrew tradition but considering that they loved to stone people to death, even children for God’s sake, then I hardly think that is a good example. Where do Christians get the idea that these people were paragons of virtue? By refusing to acknowledge this then it would be simply a matter of time before history repeats itself.
        Furthermore once a theocracy would be established then they would start squabbling amongst each other as to which of the hundreds of denominations would be established as the true church. Going to conservative websites where they debate each other has really opened my eyes. It really is like what I would consider to be hell on earth, endlessing sniping at each other over minor points of doctrine and telling each other ‘You’re going to hell, no you’re going to hell, NO YOU’RE GOING TO HELL!”
        Honestly, they act like children so why should I think they would ever be qualified to run a country!
        Am I wrong on this? Can anyone give me an example of a theocracy that has actually worked? Like I said I don’t know enough about history but right now I can’t think of one.

        • Octoberfurst

          I can’t think of a single theocracy that isn’t/wasn’t a thuggish dictatorship. By its very nature it MUST be tyrannical. But yet we have idiots in this country who think that having a “Bible-based society” would be all sunshine and lollypops.
          Frankly I don’t think the theocrats have a chance of really getting what they want. (At least I hope not!) But there are a LOT of them out there. (I know a couple.) We just need to be viglilant and stamp out the theocratic fires whenever we see them.This is a battle of reason vs lunacy.

          • mroge

            LIke I said before I am not an atheist. I have my own beliefs that I don’t try to force on others. I don’t believe God has a religion.But I am realizing more and more that organized religion can be dangerous precisely because of its authoritarian nature. There are a lot of bad things that have been done in the name of God. I was raised to believe that the problem was just that certain people misinterpreted the Bible or that it was just the “currupt’ Catholic church that was responsible for the atrocities that happened and are still happening. But I realize more and more that it is more complicated than that because the fact is that people who have killed or have done other things in the name of God actually weren’t misinterpreting the bible at all. The bible says many things, both good and bad and it really just depends on what a person chooses to take from it. It is impossible to harmonize the different messages and the idea of inerrancy makes it more likely that people are going to put a lot of weight on the negative. Even the NT is not free from this, although there is improvement. However a lot of it is ruined by the fact that the church fathers decided to include the book of Revelation in the Canon. This pretty much abolishes Jesus’ message of peace and is having a profound effect on our politics because anyone who actually wants to work on world peace is seen as a threat because that is supposedly the plan of the AntiChrist. Whoever seems to be a threat to us is perceived to fit that role. Yesterday was the communists, today it is the muslims and it will be someone else tomorrow. Not that there aren’t real threats, but the Christians exaggerate them to the point that they think it is literally the end of the world. Sadly I am wondering whether their is any hope for world peace as long as Christianity in its present form exists.

            The ironic part is that the book of Revelation was an elaborate revenge fantasy against the Roman Empire and so it was speaking to the people of that time, not ours. This is especially evident when Jesus predicted his return within the lifetimes of his apostles! The letters of Paul also reflect this even though he didn’t say that specifically but he indicated that there was a great urgency to evangelize before Jesus’ return that it would be best not to marry so they could focus on their mission. I think a lot of people miss that because they don’t know the context of what he was saying.

            Maybe I have gone too long discussing theology with people who might not care about all the details but these are my thoughts about why I really think Christian fundamentalism can be just as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalism. In fact they are very close in their ideology which is not surprising since they stem the same source, which is the bible. I am more and more convinced that Christian fundamentalism is what got us into the war in Iraq.

        • http://doityourselfcomputing.com/ Robbi

          Elucidate on that belief and back it up with statistics to show me that the conservative groups would desire a theocracy. Number of people who promote that? the number of conservatives who actively worship each week is below 50%. Insofar as your vision of conservative websites, I agree, they are heinous but nowhere near as foolish and as rude as the liberal ones. Anyone who sees this as a party issue is an utter idiot. Muslim and Christian prayers should be removed from the public schools system yet we pick one one and allow the other in more than 50 schools around the country. Atheists are allowing it by virtue of their silence. I think honestly that it’s fear, because being afraid to be less than politically correct or being seen as a racist backs them down so that they discriminate against one group and allow the other to carry on with the very thing they say they protest. Frankly I find it ridiculous to protest one and not the other. Either do it all or sit down and shut up..

      • Randay

        As Garrison Keillor once said: My ancestors came to America because they wanted to enjoy greater restrictions than were permitted under English law.

        • mroge

          LOL!

  • HarpCS

    Glenn Beck is a babbling buffoon!!

  • JA

    Beck would’ve thrown a shitfit had a Muslim student offered a prayer to Allah (not that there’s likely any Muslims in that school anyway, but still).

  • Baby_Raptor

    Well, he did say one thing right: Nobody has the right to not be offended. Got that, Christers? You don’t have the right to not be offended. Sorry.

  • Octoberfurst

    I find it amazing and more than a little frightening that this bozo has millions of followers and that his books always are best-sellers. He’s obviously an idiot and he spews wild conspiracy theories and other nonsense on a daily basis but yet there are people out there who hang on every word he says. I just shake my head in disbelief that there are that many suckers out there.

  • Space Cadet

    Wow.

    Beck started off talking about the graduation, somehow segued into a dystopian future where all citizens are drooling morons that the gov’t controls completely, then complained that we don’t have a Randian style worship of successful business people.

    People listen to this guy freely? Do they think his thoughts are coherent?

  • grindstone

    Dear Glenn,
    I’m not offended when you pray in church, or your home, or your car, or at your desk at school or work, or at the beach or on the sidewalk, or at your Rotary meeting or KofC dinner. I’m not offended when people thank god for every little thing in their lives, goodness knows my entire family prays unceasingly and for every thing, including that choice parking space.

    I’m offended when you bring it into the public sphere at an institution supported with the tax dollars and sweat of the whole community: PUBLIC schools, county council meetings, courtrooms. Because this means my money, and my Jewish neighbor’s money, and my Muslim neighbor’s money, and my Hindu neighbor’s money, is being used to promote your religion at the exclusion, tacitly or otherwise, of everyone else’s.

    What I can’t understand is how you fail to understand this simple simple concept.

    • mroge

      Because nobody else’s religion or belief system matters to him. No one matters except Christians and their agenda.

  • Seamus Ruah

    I’m offended by violations of the Constitution, silly me.

  • northierthanthou.com

    It’s amazing the way that people like beck just take-off on these subjects and imagine the principles they think their opponents are following, …to the benefit of a straw man, of course. You can’t dissuade them either. You can say a hundred times it isn’t about being offended, they don’t listen. You can tell them it isn’t about being forced to pray; they still tell you it’ll be okay because folks can be exempted. they just refuse to face the point at hand. It’s pathetic.

    • mroge

      Like the name…

  • Guest

    “the people who are currently being ostracized because of their point of view. The people who this system has beaten up and told to shut up for a very long time.”

    He’s talking about non-Christians here, right? Right?
    FFS.

  • Tracy Cottrell

    You’re awesome. I Grew up in a “Christian Community”. When I told others that I was an atheist they thought I was evil or needed fixing or saving. It was horrible, my best friends dad even tried to convert me with the argument that wouldn’t it be better to believe just in case I was wrong, of course, his argument being I could avoid Hell by fooling his Omnipotent deity therefore ascend into Heaven. I explained to him his argument didn’t really work and wouldn’t his God be even more angry at me for my attempt at deception rather than just following sound reasoning “He had equipped me with”. Gave him something to think about , I think I might have scared him, perhaps that was his ploy, oh well hopefully he realized his God Was not so kind after all. Keep up the good work, thank you . Tracy Cottrell

  • http://doityourselfcomputing.com/ Robbi

    The only real problem that I find is that it’s not politically correct for atheists to protest the islam prayers taking place in schools all around the country and as of yet, I am not seeing protests of that. When I do, I’ll see you as our heroes and not just another set of discriminating bigots.


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