Bryan Fischer Said the Atheist Hotline Fundraiser was ‘Doomed to Fail’… Guess We Proved Him Wrong Again

This is Christian leader Bryan Fischer, talking about the Atheist Hotline Project more than two weeks ago:

When asked by [the Christian Post] if he felt the atheist group would reach their fundraising goal, Fischer replied that “this effort is doomed to fail.”

“I can’t imagine a more fruitless and depressing endeavor than trying to raise money to help people create distance between themselves and God,” said Fischer. “God isn’t going anywhere, and the Scriptures make clear in places like Psalm 139 that’s impossible to flee the presence of God even if you want to. He will always stand ready to draw near to anyone who wants to draw near to him, no matter how far from him they’ve tried to get.”

And here’s the Hotline Project as of last night:

Thanks to your overwhelming support and generosity, we are thrilled to announce we have met our goal of raising $30,000 well ahead of our June 30th deadline, and we are now ready to launch the second phase of The Hotline Project: gathering and training volunteers.

So… Fischer was shown to be wrong again. He hasn’t admitted it just yet and I wouldn’t hold my breath over it, but we can add this to our Giant List of Things Bryan Fischer Has Been Wrong About.

Meanwhile, you can (and should!) apply to become a volunteer for the hotline right now.

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. You can read much more about him here.

  • busterggi

    “the Scriptures make clear in places like Psalm 139 that’s impossible to flee the presence of God even if you want to”

    So god will be with us even in the Hell that Mr. Fischer says we’re going to which he also says is Hell because of the absence of god. Damned theists just can’t keep anything straight.

    • Patrick Carr

      can you blame them? those poor things have enough on their hands already trying to decipher a bible that contradicts itself throughout

    • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

      I just realized that as much as I think William Lane Craig is a defender of genocide, at least he’s trying to prove his view using an outside source. People like Fischer who use the bible to prove the bible are a meta level more removed from any chance at epistemology.

  • Sven2547

    There are few things more pleasurable than doing what others have told you is impossible.

  • WallofSleep

    “Giant List of Things Bryan Fischer Has Been Wrong About.”

    Thank goodness for the internet. In print, that list would require building a new wing on the Library of Congress.

    • Space Cadet

      In order to save paper, I propose a condensed version. A single sheet that simply says Everything, but in a much larger font.

  • Anna

    God isn’t going anywhere, and the Scriptures make clear in places like Psalm 139 that’s impossible to flee the presence of God even if you want to. He will always stand ready to draw near to anyone who wants to draw near to him, no matter how far from him they’ve tried to get.”

    Then he’s doing a pretty bad job with lifelong atheists like myself! If people like Fischer are serious, I wonder how they explain away those of us who have never seen anything that would make us think deities are real. I just don’t get it. I don’t believe in the supernatural because I’ve never come across anything that would make me think it exists. According to Christians, I’m… what? Lying? Ignorant? Blinded by their devil? I want to know how they rationalize it.

    • The Other Weirdo

      You are lying. You are denying evidence in front of your eyes. You are stubborn. You are in rebellion against God. You want to sin so you ignore God. You are a Devil worshipper. Waaah.

      Hope this helps.

      ————————————

      This segment of What Will Wacky Christians Say Next? has been brought to you by the Atheist Population Control Institute of the New World Order, eliminating the world’s population problem one tasty baby at a time.

      • Anna

        You kid, and of course that’s what the hardcore fundamentalists believe, but I wonder about the more thoughtful ones. Surely they’re not all like Fischer. Some of them have got to ponder why their god doesn’t reveal itself to atheists. Maybe they believe it’s just a matter of time, and as long as we’re sincere and open-minded, we’ll be converted eventually.

        • Tobias2772

          I continue to see evidence that otherwise thoughtful and intelligent mythologists refuse to shine their critical thinking lights on their mythology. Perhaps this is a nod to the power of youthful indoctrination, but I have plenty of smart friends who refuse to think about their religion rationally or critically.

        • The Other Weirdo

          I am not convinced that only hardcore fundamentalists believe what I wrote. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what they believe. They are silent, and until they start speaking out against the fundamentalists hijacking their faith, they are irrelevant. I am also beginning to think that the only true difference between the “hardcore fundamentalists” and the “more thoughtful ones” is that the hardcore fundamentalists say what the thoughtful ones are afraid of.

    • http://nomadwarriormonk.blogspot.com/ Cyrus Palmer

      You haven’t seen the light yet, but they’ll tell you whatever it takes to get your ass in their pews!

      • Anna

        Ha, maybe some of them believe that’s what it will take. Only I’ve been in their pews, and I still haven’t seen anything that makes me inclined to believe in their deity.

        • http://nomadwarriormonk.blogspot.com/ Cyrus Palmer

          It’s right there in front of you. You could see it, but only if you look for it. It’s crystal clear to them. Try to find anything long enough, and you’ll find it. If you want to find it.

          • Adey

            I think you mean your wallet in the pews, not your ass.

    • Bdole

      The proof is all around you, you just refuse to see it. Here, put these on
      *applies Jesus goggles of transperceptification with what seem to be completely opaque lenses*
      there, now can you see the miracles?!

  • Patrick Carr

    LOL. what a christbot. it is his religion doomed to fail. the psalm should read that it is impossible to “feel”…”his” presence, not “flee”

    • http://www.holytape.etsy.com Holytape

      So, the writers of the bible were a bit dyslectic. It’s not like the word of doG is supposed to be prefect.

  • Taz

    People like Fischer just can’t get their heads around the fact that atheists really don’t believe god exists. Yes, Bryan, it’s certainly a fruitless endeavor to “help people create distance between themselves and God”.

    • WallofSleep

      People like Fischer think that we actually do believe in God, but we just hate Him soooo much that we go around pretending He doesn’t exist. Really.

  • Joe Zamecki

    I applied to be a volunteer. Thanks for the heads up, Hemant! This should be fun.

  • Rain

    Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see how the impossibility of fleeing from the presence of God would necessarily cause a fund raising effort to be doomed to failure. Something seems a little off with his reasoning there, lol.

  • JohnnieCanuck

    I think I can predict which way Mr. Fischer would go with this one. He would say the Psalms and indeed the whole of the Bible are only intended for people this side of the grave. If you fail the final exam that happens right after you die, that’s when your omnibenevolent god will condemn you to the eternal torment which is to be separated from it. Unless he quite likely believes that as so many other Christians imagine it, your omnibenevolent god will arrange to have you subjected to unrelenting torture for all of eternity.

    This in spite of being omnipotent and thus by definition capable of doing anything, with the exception that if iron chariots are involved then it is powerless to intervene.

    Edited to say this was supposed to be a reply to busterggi.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com Holytape

    It is impossible to flee the presence of God.

    That’s not true. Just get yourself into a situation where you could really use the help of a benevolent, omnipotent friend. I promise that no matter where you are, you won’t find God.

  • baal

    “1 You have searched me, Lord,
    and you know me.
    2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
    you perceive my thoughts from afar.
    3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
    you are familiar with all my ways.
    4 Before a word is on my tongue
    you, Lord, know it completely.
    5 You hem me in behind and before,
    and you lay your hand upon me.
    6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.”

    I thought to check the text, the reciters of verses don’t always cite one that is even close. This one is pretty close.

    By close, I mean something like too many people crowded into a train or maybe a phone booth.

  • Artor

    Even though they achieved their clearly-stated goals, they actually failed because they didn’t find Jeebus. Or something like that; he was hiding in the sofa cushions.

  • MotoAtheistVroom

    Sure I can get away from god…..Iron Chariots, amirite?

  • stop2wonder

    “God isn’t going anywhere, and the Scriptures make clear in places like Psalm 139 that’s impossible to flee the presence of God even if you want to. …”

    Isn’t this the same guy who said God doesn’t go where he’s not wanted after the Connecticut school shooting? Funny how he adopts God’s wishes on a case by case basis and sometimes they completely contradict each other.

    • Matt D

      Indeed, he stated “”God is not going to go where he is not wanted” in response to the school shootings, yet months later says this. Inconsistency is fairly common with his ilk, however one must monitor and record them, then compare…to notice this.


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