Christian Author Tony Anthony Gets Caught Lying About His Life Story

Tony Anthony is the author of the bestselling, decade-old, freakishly-long-titled book Taming the Tiger from the Depths of Hell to the Heights of Glory: The Remarkable True Story of a Kung Fu World Champion. It a story about how Tony became a killer, went to prison, found Jesus, and soon became a free man in more ways than one:

Anthony was a popular speaker on the Christian circuit, where his compelling story resonated with audiences:

“In the line of duty as a bodyguard, I killed people,” Anthony would tell church audiences. “I have broken more arms and legs than I care to remember.” Later he recounted how he found God while in prison in Nicosia after being convicted of theft.

The book was a phenomenon. It was translated into 25 languages and won the Christian Booksellers’ Convention Award in 2005.

You can guess where this story is going

… following a sustained internet campaign by a group of Christians who doubted Anthony’s claims almost from the start, it appears that little of the book is true.

After an independent investigation, a panel appointed by the alliance has concluded that Anthony had, at best, a sketchy relationship with the truth. In a statement on its website the alliance acknowledges that “large sections of the book Taming the Tiger, and associated materials, which claim to tell the true story of Tony Anthony’s life, do not do so”.

You can read details of his lies and how researchers discovered them here.

Alright, so Anthony’s a fraud, and there will hopefully be some sort of ramifications for his deception. (So far, Anthony hasn’t said he’ll return/donate any of his royalties nor has the book been pulled from bookshelves, in person or online.)

But it raises another question: Why aren’t Christians this aggressive when it comes to many of the other popular works of “non-fiction”? Jokes about the Bible aside, it took an investigation by NPR to bring down Christian pseudo-historian David Barton and his lies about Thomas Jefferson.

It was Esquire‘s Luke Dittrich who finally exposed Heaven-visiting Dr. Eben Alexander as a liar (though Alexander’s book is still available).

So why is this fraud happening in the Christian world, where you would think the books are held to a higher standard? And why aren’t Christians always leading the charge to catch these authors when they lie? (It’s their faith that’s being taken for granted, after all.)

Obviously, this isn’t just a Christian problem — James Frey and Jonah Lehrer are just two examples of people who got away with making things up in their books before eventually getting caught — but I wonder if there’s something about religious books that makes them immune from fact-checking.

When Christians hear about Colton Burpo and all those other writers who claim to have gone to Heaven (or Hell), do they think “What a wonderful story! I believe it” or “That seems a little too good to be true… I should look into this”? I worry it’s the former when it should really be the latter. Of course atheists will argue that Christians don’t have very good bullshit detectors to begin with, but when someone is making millions of dollars and selling millions of books based on an improbable story, it should at least raise some red flags for everyone.

I know you can’t prove or disprove someone’s beliefs or thoughts, but the facts surrounding those stories ought to be verified by editors and publishers — and by pastors and readers, to the best of their abilities — before the books hit the market. That’s asking a lot, I know, but if these writers are portraying themselves as heroes or messengers of God, then publishers have a duty to at least let us know if the material is verified or unverified. Even if they can’t afford a fact-checker, they should be able to add that disclaimer.

To his credit, Mike Hancock, the director of Anthony’s group Avanti Ministries Ltd., asked for verification of the story and didn’t get it — he ended up resigning from the position and led the charge to investigate Anthony. We need more people like Hancock asking good questions.

(Thanks to Lynn for the link!)

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  • DougI

    It’s always a safe bet to assume that when a fundy is talking that he/she is lying.

    • Holytape

      Fundies have a hard time at restaurants. They want the steak, but order the chicken, because it is so uncomfortable for them to tell the truth.

  • Yoav

    but the facts surrounding those stories ought to be verified by editors
    and publishers — and by pastors and readers, to the best of their
    abilities — before the books hit the market.

    They all have millions of dollars riding on having plausible deniability when the story eventually turn up to be bullshit.

    • Kev

      His Pastor Steven Hembery at Leigh Road baptist Church wrote the endorsement on the book!

  • Tel

    I’d like to see an investigation into the supposed biography “The Heavenly Man” at some point. Though that one is set in China so it may be harder. How convenient.

    EDIT: Oooh, look! Anthony has put up a statement on his website amounting to “Well, I wrote it as fictionalized like everyone does (but sold it as fact) and it’s your fault for reading into it more than I expected, so there.”

    • allein

      Then perhaps he should notify Barnes & Noble that they should move it from “Christian Life” to “Religious Fiction”…somehow I don’t think that’ll happen any time soon.

    • The Other Weirdo

      But isn’t that a very Christian thing to do, claim something people take as fact should really be taken with a large grain of salt? They do it with the Bible all the time. “Well, the talking snake is obviously a metaphor for the human condition, but those bits about beating up on teh gayz™, why totally literal.”

    • Carpinions

      Note how the only bolded and really obvious pieces of that post do two things: Assert his innocence and truthfulness, and use Bible passages to bolster his story of trials and tribulation.

  • Petroglyph

    Tony responds on his website with a sad and transparent construct of half-hearted deception. And God, because, you know, changing the subject to Jebus is always a good thing.

  • Holytape

    Evangelical Christians gullible — willing to believe anything as long as it fits their preconceived narrative? How dare you. That’s just the literal talking snake figuratively whispering in your ear.

    A con artist using religion? Perish the thought. No, all holy men are as holy as their gods. If not they were just a den of thieves, then wouldn’t God strike them down?

    • Tel

      Even my mother says that Pentecostals and Evangelicals are the most gullible people in the world — just add “God told me so” to the end of a sentence and they’ll believe anything.

    • Len

      …all holy men are as holy as their gods.

      Very true.

  • Jennifer T

    “So why is this fraud happening in the Christian world, where you would think the books are held to a higher standard?”

    Would you really? I wouldn’t.

    • allein

      You would think that you should be able to think that, but no, you wouldn’t actually think that.

    • Kev

      called especially when the publisher is called Authentic Media!!!

      you just couldn’t write it better! the irony.

      • C.L. Honeycutt

        “It’s REAL entertainment!

        -Ric Flair, when asked in an interview if professional wrestling was real.

  • laura g

    I know this is about Tony Anthony, but I have to say, every time I see David Barton’s name I want to bash my head into my desk. He was named a “social studies expert’ by Texas state board of education (elected officials, many of whom home schooled or private schooled their own kids) and just this year, the board chair brought him up (without an ounce of shame or irony) as an example of a non-academic expert. (same board chair who publicly questioned the just how “Christian” fellow right-wing board members were during the science review.) While swallowing this crap whole, they meanwhile are fighting this curriculum management plan with no factual errors but (in their view) not enough disdain for socialism or respect for the Boston tea party. this is what is wrong with education in America (well, that and elementary education majors/programs include no rigorous math).

  • YankeeCynic

    Inevitable un-ironic poster asserting “he bore false witness, so he’s not a true Christian” in three, two…

    • Paul

      viewed from within the construct that is a christian worldview…

    • Wethewax

      Is an inveterate liar ever true to anything?

  • Octoberfurst

    I remember when I was a kid back in the early 70′s preacher Mike Warnke was very popular in Christian circles. He claimed that he was a former drug addict who became a high-level Satanist and was part of a powerful Satanic conspiracy–along with the Illuminati– to take over America. Of course over time he found Jesus and dropped out of the Satanic cult–who then tried to kill him of course to keep him from exposing them. Fundies and evangelicals just ate it up. I too loved his testimony although a lot of what he claimed didn’t ring true but I just chalked that up to Satan trying to influence me. (Faith tends to make one blind to reality.)
    Years later the magazine Christianity Today did an expose on him and showed that everything about him was a lie. They also exposed the fact that this “devout Christian” had been married 4 times, lived in a mansion, and was basically a complete scumbag. His career as a Christian speaker dropped like a rock.
    There are a lot of professional liars out there willing to tell tall tales to the gullible for money. Unfortunately conservative Christians tend to believe anything as long as it fits into their worldview.

    • Michael W Busch

      The Satanic conspiracy thing was particularly bizarre, since there were all of these people who were claiming to have been complicit in murder and cannibalism – none of whom were turning themselves in to law enforcement.

      • Octoberfurst

        Very true! The whole “Satanic Panic” thing back in the 70′s and 80′s was a truly strange phenomenon. The whole gist of it was that there were thousands of Satanic covens across America who routinely sacrificed young virgin girls & babies to Satan and then drank the victims blood or ate her. Supposedly many high level politicans and police officials were involved in it and helped cover it up. Mind you no bodies were ever found but that was because the Satanists were so good at covering their tracks. Uh-huh. And of course people like Mike Warnke COULD have told the authorities who was killed and when but strangely he never did. He shoveled out an incredible amount of BS but people never questioned his story.

        • Tainda

          I’m sure everyone of a certain age remembers the boycott on Procter and Gamble because of the “man in the moon” symbol on their products.

          I used to love finding the symbol when I was little and telling people how “bad” it was.

          • Gus Snarp

            Here in Cincinnati P&G built a new headquarters building downtown, with two big circles on it meant to hold the logo… that they never put in, leaving big, ugly, empty, gray concrete circles on top of the building.

            • Tainda

              Wow, that’s just sad :(

        • The Other Weirdo

          80′s and 90′s, wasn’t it?

          • Octoberfurst

            I remember people talking about Satanic cults a lot in the 70′s but the whole “Satanic panic” may have been in the 80′s and 90′s. I am not exactly sure. (I do know it was at least in the 80′s.) So you may be right.

            • UWIR

              At least as far as the ritual child abuse stuff is concerned, the Satanic Panic was definitely mainly an 80s phenomenon.

        • Gus Snarp

          Well, to be fair, how could any bodies be found if they ate them?

          I remember a horrible local talk show doing an interview with a satanic priest. Full on LaVey style. The whole thing was so theatrical and obviously bullshit that I just laughed. And this was as a boy who had had nightmares of hell and satan and basically lived in terror of the devil.

          I imagine, without my ever thinking of it much until this moment, that that may have been an important moment in my stopping believing in god. After that day I could no longer take seriously anyone with tales of participation in satanic rituals.

        • Sven2547

          I literally had to explain to my parents that StarCraft had nothing to do with witchcraft. Not even joking.

        • Len

          Is it perhaps because many believers (OK, probably only around 99.999% of them) really want to believe in the power of their god (despite what they really see in their own lives), so they’ll happily believe anything that they think shows their god in a strong light. They vicariously enjoy the victories they hear, without ever actually looking at their god under a strong light.

    • Spinny

      Mike Warnke is back at it. He spoke at a church local to me in the summer of 2006 – long after he was exposed as a liar. He has never admitted fabricating his history.

      Because she was very interested in going to hear him speak, I explained the full history to my MIL who is an evangelical Christian and claims to be a natural skeptic (hah!). She asserted that the people doing the investigation MUST have some sort of vendetta against him. When I explained it was the Christian magazine Cornerstone doing the investigation, she insisted it must be a misunderstanding.

      She *wants* to believe the horrible things he says because it validates her belief in a God of salvation. Also, she’ll feel dumb believing all the Satanic panic of the early ’80s.

      • Paul D.

        It’s weird, isn’t it? There’s a certain kind of Christian who *needs* Satanic cults, covens, warlocks, black magic, and all the rest of that to be real, because they’ve got such mundane existences that they rely on a fantasy worldview to give life meaning.

    • LizBert

      Years ago I found this book at my grandparents and ate it all up. Thankfully my dad told me the whole bullshit. Christians just love a really good salvation story. Maybe I can make a career writing about how I used to be a witchcraft practicing prostitute before finding the lord.

      • Len

        Don’t forget the part about micro-waving kittens and barbecuing babies. I remember that like it was yesterday. Oh wait, it was.

    • decathelite

      Religion is a lot like spam e-mail. There’s a lot of phony offers,empty promises, and false testimonies, all of which can cause viruses to be downloaded on your computer. Even if there is one genuine offer somewhere in there (i.e. one true religion), it’s best to go to the spam filter and click “no to all”. If the person making the genuine offer won’t go to the trouble to distinguish it from the spam, maybe it’s not a great offer after all.

    • Astreja

      Frightening, isn’t it, Octoberfurst? It’s almost as if some versions of belief simply can’t keep going without an authoritative, ebulllient yes-man to cheer the believers on. One would at least think that there’d be a “small still voice” warning the devout not to fall for it.

      • Octoberfurst

        I had that “still small voice” warning me that this was nonsense but I chose to ignore it as so many Christians do. Sad but true.

  • A3Kr0n

    It seems like religious people are in full damage control mode 24/7 these days.
    I blame the Internet, which is to say I blame Al Gore.

  • ursulamajor

    The fundies that I know see truth in the things they want to believe, even if they have to squint really hard and tilt the page back to find it.
    There is also, “I never believed it, but sometimes you need these kind of Xtreme Stories For Jebuz to to bring some people to the fold,” where the end justifies the means.

    • grindstone

      The latter is my MIL to a tee. She gets so agitated when I return her crappy emails with a note to check snopes, or do a five second google search before sending me this junk. Her comment: well, it’s still a good message. Aiiiigghhhh…..NO. If you have to make shit up to back up your message, then it cannot stand on its own.

      • C.L. Honeycutt

        Seriously! I had a relative drop me on Facebook because I wrote something about skepticism along the lines of “When the people who lead those of your beliefs, and who you consider the most knowledgeable on the topic, lie to you to solidify your support, why aren’t you, at the very least, asking yourself, ‘Why do they think I won’t support them unless they lie?’”

        It wasn’t even directed at her.

      • ursulamajor

        Exactly what I just went through with a relative. She posted that “Johns Hopkin’s Cancer Update” piece of BS that has been floating around for years. I sent her the Snopes link. She flipped out. It didn’t matter that it wasn’t REALLY from Hopkins. It didn’t matter that it was saying that chemo and radiation and surgery made cancer worse. It mentioned diet and exercise (and actually got the science of those wrong, too), so it was okay to pass around. Plus, I was being mean to try to take hope away from people. And GOD!

      • UWIR

        Of course, both sides of the political spectrum has their share of this, like how Michael Moore is bringing important issues to the nation’s attention, and is it really important whether his statements are fully honest depictions of reality?

  • Gus Snarp

    The case of this particular book is pretty typical: the more awful your background story, the more dramatic the story of your “salvation”. This kind of lying, or at least confabulation and exaggeration, happens at all levels of evangelical Christianity. Any time you hear a horror story of what someone was like before they found Jesus, you should be extremely skeptical. More to the point, Christians should be extremely skeptical of such stories. Some are no doubt true, but far too many are false, and that not only reflects badly on Christianity, but also results in lies being spread about many communities and believed by Christians because they “know someone who was a(n) [atheist, satanist, D&D player, witch, kung fu master....]. These stories are responsible for perpetuating many false and terrible stereotypes.

  • decathelite

    Wow. The lengths some people go to lie…It reminds me of the marathon runner that the New Yorker did a story on last year who faked running in marathons for charity. Not to say that pathological lying is unique to Christians or religious people in general, it’s just that they claim to be held to a higher standard and don’t act like it.

  • Gus Snarp

    Oh, and apparently he’s not just a liar, he’s a plagiarist, too:

    But scrutiny of the book’s text reveals that many of the passages detailing Kung Fu techniques were copied, wholesale, from a specialist martial arts website. One passage is lifted from a book about Bruce Lee.

    • UWIR

      That strikes me as a much more serious issue.

  • allein

    My mom asked me to pick up Heaven is for Real (Colton Burpo) for her when it got big, and since I wasn’t going to see her for a few days, I read it first. Much eye-rolling ensued. I gave it to her without comment, and a week or two later, after she had finished it, she asked if I wanted to read it. I said I already had, and her response was, “It’s good, right?” I said, “no, not really.” I don’t know how much of it she actually believes; she’s not extremely religious (at least not outwardly), and I’m not sure I really want to get into that discussion. Since religion isn’t really a big issue in my family (there are various degrees and flavors of Christianity, and I suspect a handful of nonbelievers of some stripe or other, but it’s not a topic of discussion at family gatherings, even at after-parties for religious events like confirmations or baptisms), and for my own sanity I prefer to live in ignorance since their beliefs don’t affect me (except perhaps in how they vote, but honestly I’m not going to change their minds, and I’m not an argumentative type, so I leave it be).

  • The Other Weirdo

    Incoming ad hominem alert: “You are named Anthony Anthony, which proves your parents had no imagination, therefore your argument is invalid.”

    • Bogey Man

      Thats not his real name…

      Andonis Andreou Athanasiou

      Convicted under a false DOB, Married under a false DOB … is he even legally married?

      cant believe he’s still protesting his innocence.

      • The Other Weirdo

        I don’t really care what his real name is, especially not one with such alliteration. He prints “Tony Anthony” on his books, therefore his argument is invalid.

  • onamission5

    It occurs to me that this narrative of prison being a redemptive place where no good, very bad sinners can find jesus is quite popular in the religious community– why address the horrors of the US prison system if it’s a place of salvation where god can change people’s lives?

    • Gus Snarp

      That’s kind of a terrifying thought. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d be crying in the fetal position in the corner. As it is, I’m certain that there are a least a non-zero number of people in evangelical circles who actually think that way.

      • onamission5

        The fundangelical churches in which I grew up, there was much emphasis placed upon prison ministries, and many, many stories of prison redemption, tales that usually started with the story of Jesus forgiving the thief on the cross and went onward from there. Statistics which show prisoners being highly religious were touted as evidence of the effectiveness of god finally reaching those who had hit bottom and lost their sinful pride. Same with ministries which focused upon homeless and addicted populations. Preying on vulnerable populations was evidenced as to the forgiving nature of god. The narrative that some people have to reach bottom before they will open themselves to the Word, it is a popular narrative. Prison as pathway to redemption of the soul. Homelessness and poverty as the same. The poor we will have with us always, that sort of thing.

        It just sort of whapped me in the brain that I grew up with this sort of narrative and never really examined it despite growing up with an incarcerated parent. I’ve not really fleshed it out. Am marinating.

    • jdm8

      In some fairness, Prison Fellowship was allegedly partly founded to address some of the injustice in prisoner treatment.

      The founder seems like a sketchy person though.

  • Richard Wade

    Funny… never… Klein… expose… lies.

    Fill in the blanks.

    • Sven2547

      Funny clowns never use Klein bottles to expose physics lies

    • Oranje

      Funny how we never catch Joe Klein when he decides to expose himself while telling lies.

  • C Tran

    I’m just gonna throw out a guess here that these are different kinds of Christians from the Christians that eat up Barton’s bullshit. The Barton tribe is more in line with creationists, Biblical literalists and theocrats, and thus more likely to believe lies and tell lies to others and themselves. A Christian speaker shopping around his book about redemption doesn’t interest them much, but that is of great interest to Christians at large. There in that larger population you do have Christians who are more spiritual than evangelical/theocratic, and they’re more able or interested to expose this type of charlatan. Just my guess.

  • Bogey Man

    Its telling that none of those responsible are condoning this behaviour… Avanti… The EA… Leigh Road Baptist Church…


  • icecreamassassin

    From the link:

    David Buick, a French-based prison chaplain:
    “Checking out fantastic claims is a vital part of genuine faith, and our findings show how important it is that we do just that.”

    Any hope they’ll turn their attention to checking out the fantastic claims of the resurrection of a divine entity to save humanity?

    • Cormacolinde

      I saw that quote, and wanted to mention the same thing. How are the claims made in the Bible not fantastic enough to warrant this same checking out of facts?

      • The Other Weirdo

        Because the Bible in the inerrant word of God. The Bible says so. Or to put it more succinctly… because Bible.

    • David

      Hello Icecreamassassin

      That’s me there in the quote. I take your point, but checking out contemporary claims is I think in a different category to checking out two thousand year old ones. In either case, though, a responsible approach involves looking at the available evidence as neutrally as possible. And in either case, the extraordinary nature of the claim should not mean it’s ruled out automatically.

  • duke_of_omnium

    They should have known, though. The section on his martial arts career began, “Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting. Those cats were fast as lightning”

    • zebedee

      or the Bruce Lee book copying! How can he still maintain its true

  • LesterBallard

    Sometimes it seems as if you have to be a real piece of shit to become a Christian.

    • Michael Harrison

      To be fair, it was Christians who exposed his BS.

      • Bogey Man

        Not the ones responsible for his actions though….

        • Michael Harrison

          I agree. I don’t think religion has a thing to do with morality or decency; in my opinion, it’s basically a Rorschach test.

  • Geoffrey Schroeder

    Here is another, very similar unraveling, of Christian ‘comedian’ and author Mike Warnke, exposed by Cornerstone magazine in 1992:

  • lefty

    “Impossible is nothing!!!!”

  • baal

    eh, so much focus on fact here and actuality there. Tony Tonyson abu Tony nee Tony wrote an emotional truth that made some people happy. Slap a “not intended for the truth of the matters” sticker on it and all would be good.

    • The Other Weirdo

      You know, back in the day, in the good old day when Jesus was winning converts by the billion each day, he usually prefixed his “emotional truth”s with “Let me tell you a parable.” I think the world would be much better if Christians would follow their own worshipee’s example.

  • suzeb1964

    It is not surprising to me at all that these works of pure fiction are given so much creedence by Christians, and that no one bothers to question the veracity of their claims. On the whole, religious people are taught to be gullible. Mark Twain said it best: “Faith is believing what you know ain’t so.”

  • ufo42

    People are still bloviating about Barton’s version of history to this day in online comments and articles…. and it isn’t just me, here. :)

  • ufo42

    When you’re so terrified of going to hell, lying in defense of your Kim IL God doesn’t seem like such a big deal, so even a lot of true believers do it routinely, not just self-promoting publicity hounds like Anthony.

  • Zexks

    “but when someone is making millions of dollars and selling millions of
    books based on an improbable story, it should at least raise some red
    flags for everyone.”

    Have you not seen the Vatican…

  • Tobias2772

    If I was a con-man why wouldn’t I pick on a group of people who have already proven themselves to be gullible beyond belief. Hell, it’s like wearing a rob me sign.

  • Sam Mulvey

    He’s not even original. We’ve got the chocolate and peanut butter of two worlds that take a mutable approach to the concept of truth: Religion and martial arts.

    One side you’ve got Pat Robertson and Peter Popoff, and on the other side you’ve got Frank Dux and Ashida Kim. Same tripe, different flavorings.

  • Ryan Hite

    Seriously makes you wonder how many others lied about their stories.

  • Robster

    Should anybody be surprised at a christian telling fibs? They’ve had 2000 years practise.

  • Don Gwinn

    I had to go show this guy to, but I should have known: they’ve had a thread on him over there since 2007, but I missed it somehow:

    I’m three pages in (of 11) and here are the highlights:

    * No explanation of why anyone’s parents would name him “Anthony Anthony.”
    * Anthony learned Kung Fu from before the age of 4, having been taken to China by his grandfather, GrandMaster Cheung Ling Soo (who sounds suspiciously close to the stage name of a famous American stage magician who pretended to be a Chinese wizard named Chung Ling Soo, but that could be coincidental.) His extremely traditional Gong Fu Grandmaster Grandpa was apparently willing to train a round-eye kid to be the heir to the family’s system, descended from the Venerable Five, because Tony was the only male among 33 grandchildren.

    * Tony earned a “black belt in kung fu” by age seven. In China . . . in the 1980s. This is kind of like telling people your Honda has a specialized four-barrel transmission and synchromesh hood scoops designed for racing; it’s gibberish.

    *As part of his training, Tony had to prove himself by lifting a cauldron hot enough to hold molten iron using his forearms (just like Caine from the TV show Kung Fu; probably another coincidence) thereby branding his wrists with dragon scars. A Bullshido member who met him face to face didn’t see the scars.

    *Tony claims he began fighting in secret underground Tai Chi world championship tournaments at the age of 10 and won the world championship in three successive years at the end of the 1980s. He does not disclose what tournaments, saying they were underground, illegal, and often resulted in the deaths of the participants. This is almost exactly like Frank Dux’s story (also fake) of his time in “The Kumite” which was the basis for the Van Damme movie “Bloodsport.” Again, probably a coincidence.

    * Tony claims a non-existent organization, the International Kung Fu Federation or IKFF (the organizer of secret underground death-match Tai Chi tournaments) forced him into its training program for personal/close protection (bodyguarding.) He says he then served as a bodyguard to Amin Fahed, Saudi Ambassador to Cyprus, the UK, and others. Of course, a quick check shows that there has never been a Saudi ambassador to the UK by that name.

    * Tony says he bears the guilt of several murders because he shot people who were shooting at his principals. He could have, and should have, shot these armed assailants in the arms or legs in order to disarm them without killing.
    Again, all this means is that he has never had legitimate training in the use of firearms and doesn’t actually know what happens when you shoot someone in the arm or leg–or why no legitimate trainer trains anyone going into harm’s way to do such a thing.

    No word yet on whether he’s ever been to prison, or Nicosia, or Cyprus . . . but there are eight pages of the Bullshido thread left. ;)

  • Godlesspanther

    Another one is the story of Mike Warnke and his book, The Satan Seller.

    The link is to the Cornerstone magazine article which exposes Warnke as a liar and a fraud. The liar still has a ministry and still has true believers who are going to believe his bullshit no matter what.

  • Mike

    A lot of Christians are cynical of many stories that come out in books, in particular those you mentioned where people claim to have visited heaven / hell (an interesting thought theologically). Unfortunately because of the breadth of people the term ‘Christian’ covers; it would be impossible to aggressively deal with these kinds of books, their authors and their followers.

    However in a case like this where a person’s life story is questioned, an investigation is entirely more appropriate, necessary and likely. Tony Anthony’s book and story has affected a large portion of the Christian Church, and therefore this group saw fit to investigate his story.

    In the case of claims about visiting heaven, the portion of the Church who hears about this / believes it / is affected by it, is exceedingly small and therefore action is less possible.

    Grace and Peace

  • Wethewax

    To whom it may concern:

    I doubt my opinion willl make any difference, but in all honesty your logo looks like it says “TsilcnouAlbeisl”.