Bryan Fischer: 90% of Americans Would Find Gay Sex Disgusting if They Actually Thought About It

Just days ago, Pastor Thabiti Anyabwile wrote about how, if Christians only described gay sex graphically, then we’d all be grossed out and work to eradicate the gay gene (or something like that).

Even before that, San Antonio Councilwoman Elisa Chan made remarks (in a private setting) “calling homosexuals ‘disgusting’ and saying that gays should not be allowed to adopt children.” She refuses to apologize for what she said, which makes sense, since she obviously still believes it.

Now, right-wing blowhard Bryan Fischer is jumping into the mix, praising Chan and reiterating this unbelievably silly myth that describing how homosexuals have sex will help turn the tide in his direction:

“I would guarantee you,” Fischer said, “90% of the American people, if they would stop and think about what actually happens in homosexual sexual behavior, they would find it disgusting.”

Well, I’m proud to be part of the fictional 10%…

Fred Clark was referring Anyabwile when he said it the other day but it applies to Fischer, too, and it’s just perfect:

He imagines what gays and lesbians may do together in private, savoring every lurid detail. And then he suggests that other people’s private acts are somehow more shameful than his public fascination with other people’s private acts.

That’s the crux of it. He’s disgusted by it, so we must all feel the same way, right? No. Our minds are not so deranged that the mere mention of a sexual act that we wouldn’t participate in is inherently icky. (Though, to be fair, most sexual acts that gay men and women do together are really no different than what straight couples do, too.)

It’s just hatred and bigotry, pure and simple.

(via Right Wing Watch)

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Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.

  • DougI

    Fischer’s problem is those who aren’t gay tend not to think about gay sex. That’s probably why Fischer is obsessed with the subject.

  • Donatello

    I wish for a world where 100% of all people find Bryan Fisher disgusting.

    • 3lemenope

      Let him be loved by someone, somewhere. Just one. It’s too cruel to make him universally repulsive.

      • C.L. Honeycutt

        Well, they can love him and be repulsed by everything about him, right? At least according to Fischer himself, they can…

        • trj

          Love the Fischer, hate the Fisch.

      • http://www.weyrcat.com/ Janna Ellis Kepley

        Sure. A tender, supportive, homosexual male.

      • Spazticus

        He can’t even love himself, because, y’know…the bible forbids it.

  • Frazzah

    What’s with all these religious people thinking about gay sex?

    • Gus

      Repression will do that to you.

    • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

      I went to a religious university for undergrad. To this day I’ve never been around that many closeted gay man. Every religious affiliated college I know of is the same way. I realize that not all the anti-gay preachers are secretly repressing their homosexuality, but enough of them are that it has become a cliche.

  • Goape

    I think having conservative christians describe gay sex, while they themselves are “disgusted”, sounds hilarious in that strange I-feel-sorry-for-the-comedian way. If this trend continues, it may drive more people from the church—unless they’re fans of awkward comedy.

  • Tainda

    No Mr. Fischer, I think YOU’RE disgusting

  • Jasper

    90% of heterosexual people? That would make sense. I mean… that’s kinda sorta what sexual orientation is about…

  • invivoMark

    I find pooping disgusting. Let’s ban pooping!

    • 3lemenope

      Beverage. Lost.
      Keyboard. Casualty.

    • Miss_Beara

      I have been having a meh day…

      up until now.

      Giggle. :)

    • HolyChrist

      I find heterosexual sex between my mother and father disgusting too, but that doesn’t mean enacting legislature preventing it.

      Homosexual people find heterosexual sex disgusting too. So what?

      Why isn’t this obvious to people?

    • Guest

      I’m 13. I find sex in general disgusting. Outlaw it!

  • http://atheistlutheran.blogspot.com/ MargueriteF

    I’m still bewildered by this. Haven’t these people ever heard of slash fanfic, or m/m erotica (much of which is read by straight women)? Surely they understand that most Americans are smart enough that they do realize what’s involved in gay sex? And don’t they realize that straight sex is every bit as “icky” if you think about it a lot, too?

    In any event, even if gay sex *were* disgusting to 90% of the population, that’s not a valid reason to refuse to give certain people the same rights everyone else has. It’s just not relevant.

    • Mitch

      Yeah, all that penus and vuhjina stuff gives me the creeps. Fluids flying everywhere and the awkward skin-slapping-skin sounds, I don’t understand how people can stand it!

      • http://atheistlutheran.blogspot.com/ MargueriteF

        Don’t they realize that men use that hole for peeing? It’s totally gross!

      • Highlander

        I’m disgusted, I’ll be in my room… Don’t come in.

        • Mitch

          I’m sure you’re going there to engage in a fervent (slightly sweaty) prayer session …

    • eric

      And don’t they realize that straight sex is every bit as “icky” if you think about it a lot, too?

      Fisher’s argument is probably not about the mechanics of it. I’m sure he’s relying on his audience to imagine themselves participating to create bad feeling. And while he’s being a manipulative bigot by using this line of argument, I wouldn’t really fault his audience for feeling the way they do. There is nothing particularly wrong or illiberal about not liking to imagine yourself being in a sex encounter you wouldn’t voluntarily choose to be in. Do straight people want to participate in gay sex? Mostly no – no more than gay people want to participate in straight sex. Fisher is preying on that.

    • Tainda

      Women don’t read stuff like that!!! lol

      I read a few erotica series and my favorite one has a few male gay/bi characters. The latest book was about one of the couples and I tell ya, I was waiting for that one with baited breath! LOVED it!

      • Amor DeCosmos

        ‘bated breath

        FTFY

        • Whirlwitch

          No no, she means she was eating sushi to while away the time.

    • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

      There’s also an entire genre of Japanese comic books and anime that is about gay couples. The audience is almost entirely women in their 20s. In America, the bulk of the audience for Showtime’s series Queer as Folk was women. Obviously many straight people don’t find the gay sex all that icky. There are even Lesbians who enjoy watching gay male porn. (I’d love for someone to unpack that one for me!) People in private are far more interested in a wider range of sexual expression than they let on to strangers. Perhaps that’s why the highest porn viewing in the US is in Utah.

    • Raising_Rlyeh

      Don’t forget Yaoi which is written primarily by women for women.

  • Fourcorners Athesit

    Their admission that they see homosexuality as “icky” just exposes their real character, and they can no longer hide their bigotry behind their faith or holy book.

  • Lynn

    “Anyone who is thinking rightly and clearly,” like you stated Mr. Fischer would question what you believe? I guess the god you believe in, who sees, watches and knows everything, is watching all this gay sex you are so offended by. Seems like he likes it!

  • http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-los-angeles/hugh-kramer Hugh Kramer

    Um… why should I think about it? Even if I did though, why should my feelings, positive or negative, have any bearing on someone else’s right to the pursuit of happiness? How are my own civil liberties being infringed on?
    Mr. Fischer, most people say you are a representative of a “fringe” element of our society. Me, I think you’re a representative of an “infringe” element instead.

  • http://www.allourlives.org/ TooManyJens

    I’m still laughing about their apparent belief that only gay people have anal or oral sex, or use sex toys.

  • Savoy47

    90% of Americans would find Bryan Fischer having sex disgusting if they actually thought
    about it.

    • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

      My thought exactly. And now that I’ve thought about it, Bryan Fischer should not be allowed to have sex.

  • C Peterson

    Yeah? And maybe the 10% or so that don’t find straight sex disgusting. What’s the point?

    For the record, as a straight guy, I find male/male sex a little icky. I’m also perfectly capable of recognizing the origin of that feeling in the biases of the culture I grew up in, and not allowing such a meaningless thing to affect my personal feelings about gay people or about good public policy.

    • http://thethreews.wordpress.com/ Ken Leonard

      To be honest, I can’t imagine wanting to have sex with a man.

      But I’m glad that my wife disagrees.

    • curtcameron

      A lot of people react in disgust if they see two men holding hands, or being affectionate at all. My own theory (which is mine) is that a lot of the bigotry towards gays is disgust at the thought of the sex acts that these guys must participate in when they’re in private. But the reason that people even imagine those acts is that gay couples are something that so many people have not had knowing exposure to, that when they see two men together it’s noticeable.

      As gays become more out, people will get used to seeing them together more, and your average hetero older person will hardly notice, and won’t therefore imagine the sex acts.

      After all, there are plenty of hetero couples that I would not want to imagine having sex together (and I’m straight myself). But when I see them in public, the thought of what their sex life entails doesn’t cross my mind.

      Brian Fischer wants people to think about that sex between men, simply because his listeners will the be more likely to maintain their bigotry that way. Otherwise they might get to the point where they see two men together and the thought of buttsects doesn’t even cross their mind!

      • Amor DeCosmos

        As gays become more out, people will get used to seeing them together more, and your average hetero older person will hardly notice

        Come to Vancouver’s West End. I am sure there are other places equally as tolerant, but around here, if you see two people of any gender holding hands most people just think “aww, that’s cute – they’re holding hands!”

    • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

      Or maybe you’d still find it icky. It’s okay to admit that so long as you don’t interfered with anyone else’s rights. For some reason the religious right think I need or want their approval. I don’t care if other people think things I do are icky. I think some things gay men do are icky too. I just don’t do them. Problem solved.

      • C Peterson

        Exactly. Using a personal sense of comfort about somebody else’s actions is generally a very bad way to judge that person’s fundamental morality.

    • ecolt

      Thank you for being self-aware enough to recognize your feelings and where they come from.

      And, for the record, as a bisexual girl there are plenty of sex acts (both gay and hetero) that I find a little icky too. It’s just not my thing. My solution is to not personally do those things, not to belittle the people who are into them.

  • Levon Mkrtchyan

    Radical idea: just because you find something disgusting, don’t ban it! For example, I’m sure that close to 90% find octogenarian sex disgusting. However, nobody tries to prevent octogenarians from getting married and having sex. Nobody cries out about the octogenarian “agenda”.

    • Highlander

      I’m pretty sure 90% of older siblings find the thought of their parents having sex is pretty disgusting (or at least they did when they were teenagers). I’m also pretty sure 99.999999% of younger siblings are happy the older sibling couldn’t ban their parents from having sex.

  • freddieknows

    And how is “90% believing gay sex is disgusting” even relevant?? I might believe the act disgusting (I wouldn’t use that terminology) but I still wouldn’t use that belief to effect the rights of others who believe differently.

  • tim

    Yeah, because we all know how much straight guys are disgusted by the idea of porn featuring 2 girls…

  • http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-los-angeles/hugh-kramer Hugh Kramer

    If you actually think about the mechanics of it, ALL sex can be viewed as pretty disgusting. I agree with what 18th century diarist Dr. Johnson had to say about it: “The expense is damnable, the position is ridiculous, and the pleasure fleeting.”

    Not that that’s ever stopped me from pursuing it.

  • Taz

    99% of people would find sexual behavior between their parents disgusting if they actually stopped and thought about it. Therefore, we should ban sex between any two people who might have offspring.

    (There may be a flaw in this plan.)

    • JET

      After my first “technical” sex talk with my daughter, her response was, “OMG! You guys did that? TWICE?!?! (She has a brother.)

      • HolyChrist

        Plus “practice” times.

    • viaten

      While we’re at it, sex between older people in general should be banned. Only young, attractive adults, (married of course) should have sex. And nothing kinky.

      • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

        Perhaps this is naive of me, but I think the world would overall be a better place if more people were getting laid more often.

    • MartinRC

      genuis!!!
      Sadly, I am in the 1% because my family was open about sex. I even would make jokes about my grandparents having sex (who a few of us in my family have almost caught them in the act) just to make people feel uncomfortable! :P

      • Tainda

        Do we have the same family? lol

      • NG

        When Grandma married her second husband, Mom quipped that they were joined at the artificial hip, and she very clearly meant the sexual reference and not the play on the cliche.

    • Eric D Red

      No, you missed an option. You don’t ban sex between those who may have an offspring. You ban sex between those who already have an offspring.

      And sadly, that often wouldn’t change anything.

    • Tainda

      My parents think it’s funny to gross out my brother and I by hinting about their sexcapades (they are in their 70s).

  • Gus

    See, the thing is, when it comes to what ought to be legal and how we ought to treat people, how disgusting we may find the things they do behind closed doors with other consenting adults just doesn’t matter.

    I mean, I don’t like to think about gay male sex. There are also things some straight couple do I don’t much like to think about. And in spite of the fact that I actually find some straight sex quite arousing, the though of anyone doing it with Bryan Fischer disgusts me, so do I get to prevent his marriage? Should that be the new standard? And who gets to enforce it? Can the clerk handling my marriage license application at City Hall just look at me and say: “I’m sorry, but I just thought of you two having sex and almost lost my lunch, so I really can’t let you get married”? Or will that power be reserved for priests? Maybe if I can get enough signatures of my neighbors saying they’re not disgusted by the notion that my partner and I get it on, then I can marry them?

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    I do hope that Fischer will wait a moment for me to go grab some lotion and a box of kleenex before he tries to tell me of the horrors of man on man sex. Of course I could show him my personal video collection so that he has even more to talk about.

  • decathelite

    I’m going to think about Bryan Fischer’s wife giving him a blowie if I ever need to delay coming.

    • http://thethreews.wordpress.com/ Ken Leonard

      That’ll delay you for, what, two or three weeks?

    • Gus

      Careful, you’re trying to delay, not go limp.

  • badgerchild

    If Fischer thought about where he was pulling those statistics out of, I bet he’d find it disgusting. ;)

    • Guest

      Fischer. Pulling out. The pun isn’t perfect, but it’s there.

  • kanehau

    Bryan “Sodomy” Fischer has penis-on-the-brain syndrome.

    • http://thethreews.wordpress.com/ Ken Leonard

      Neural sex?

      • Spuddie

        Or the natural form of being a dick-head

  • LesterBallard

    If you actually thought about it, you might find sex disgusting. Or hilarious, which I do.

  • http://thethreews.wordpress.com/ Ken Leonard

    Leave them to it. This doesn’t play well with the public. It’s what they tried with Clinton in the Monica Lewinski situation, too. See how well that worked out?

    I don’t spend any time imagining what couples do in the privacy of their rooms. Same sex, opposite sex, whatever. I don’t want to discuss what acts my wife and I do and don’t engage in. We have five kids. So you know something. That’s all I feel like letting you know. Imagine what you will, but I’m not sharing.

    If these people are imagining what same-sex couples are doing, then maybe they need to come out and admit that they’re really repressing a lot.

  • A3Kr0n

    I wonder how often Bryan Fisher thinks about gay sex?

    • http://thethreews.wordpress.com/ Ken Leonard

      A lot, apparently.

    • Gus

      Pretty much all the time. He’s always thinking about disgusting, naughty, gay sex and how those nasty boys need to be punished…

      • Tainda

        Used a lot lately but…

        I’ll be in my bunk

    • Cattleya1

      Given how often he has some post about it reach Right Wing Watch or JoeMYGod, he must be as obsessed with it as Rick Santorum. Maybe someone could get them a date together?

  • CassandraJK

    Straight woman here…thinking about gay sex…..nope, still find it pretty hot. And judging from the vast quantity of slash fiction available on the internet, mostly written and read by straight women, I’m not alone.

    • Tainda

      You are NOT! :)

    • Thackerie

      I, too, have thought about it — LONG AND HARD. Still not disgusted.

    • Anna

      LOL, they’d probably blame it on feminism or atheism. Good Christian women would never be turned on by such a thing.

      Oh, wait…

      http://www.trickster.org/symposium/symp165.htm

      • Tainda

        They can justify anything, can’t they?

        • Anna

          Most definitely! But at least she’s on the right side of things.
          Google for “Christian peggers,” and you’ll find a whole lot of people who hate homosexuality but have no problem with wives using strap-ons to pleasure their husbands.

          • Tainda

            I don’t think I want to :( lol

            That is so mentally twisted it’s not even funny. I love the term peggers though

          • b s

            “Google for “Christian peggers”

            I did. After a page or two, I stumbled across this.

            “Few things are more erotic than pumping my DH as he [finishes] on my face! It’s so intimate to feel the physical manifestation of the pleasure I give him. I cherish every drop.”

            This is one of those things we’re supposed to gag from, right?

    • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

      I thought I knew what “slash fiction” was, but I was way wrong. I found this highly amusing though:

      [J. K.] Rowling approves the writing of fan fiction in general, posting links to fan fiction on her website and openly acknowledging slash fiction while maintaining that pairings such as those between Harry/Draco and Harry/Snape are non-canonical.

      As if we needed clarification on the canonical status of Harry/Snape hot&steamy.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction#Slash_and_the_original_media_sources

      • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

        It’s nice that she lets us play in her sandbox. (I’m more a fan of Ginny/Hermione, though.)

        • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

          Maybe she learned from Streisand. I’ve just started reading “Prisoner” to my son, so I’ll be sticking with the Vanilla and leaving y’all to enjoy the other flavors.

          • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

            Hey, you’re reading to your kid and you’ve got good taste! I’m sure he’ll discover the other flavors later. When he’s in college and out of your house, of course.

  • Savoy47

    This is just to provide cover for Fisher and his Ilk so they can watch gay porn without sin under the guise of doing research. It reminds me of a Christian preacher that would travel around Philadelphia Metro railing against child porn. He brought some examples of it from the box full in his trunk into the studio of the Irv Homer radio show back in the 80’s. When he left the show at the end of his interview Irv called the police to report the guy driving around with a trunk full of child porn.

    Christians won’t like the outcome of this yucky gay sex campaign. After the Christian Right and the GOP echo machine got all up in arms about Bill Clinton’s stain on the blue dress, the taboo against talking about such things in the media no longer held. The next thing you knew semen was all over the TV. CSI and every other Cop show would darken the room turn on the black light and “look its semen”. I think the idea that good Christian girls could give a blow job and keep their virginity came as an unintended consequence of that manufactured outrage also.

  • NeilWeightman

    I find eating beetroot disgusting.

    • Stev84

      Me too. The smell alone. Yuck!

  • more compost

    He is so disgusted by gay sex that he can’t stop thinking about it.

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    I wonder if we could make “Bryan Fischer” a synonym for “Santorum”

    • Spuddie

      I smell a contest.

  • cary_w

    Well, I agree with him on one thing, yup, I find butt-sex disgusting. So What? That’s my opinion, so I don’t partake, problem solved. Why the hell does this have anything at all to do with gay marriage? People do disgusting things all the time they smoke, pierce their tongues, and eat canned peas and oysters. So what? At least with the butt-sex you never have to see it because if they’re doing it out in public you can have them arrested for public indecency! I just about gagged the last time my husband ate a tin of oysters, blaa! Talk about disgusting!

  • allein

    So by their logic, no one is allowed to eat raw tomatoes, because I find them disgusting. How do I get this law on the books?

    • allein

      Or, to be consistent, I guess people who eat raw tomatoes maybe just shouldn’t be able to marry each other or adopt children.

  • Rachel Warner

    Seriously, what is the religitards obsession with other peoples’ sex lives ?

  • Ohdear…Imightbegay….

    If I spent as much time thinking about gay sex as he did I’d never leave my bedroom ;) Cause I’d be too turned on.

  • skinnercitycyclist

    Actually, there is only one aspect of gay sex I find disgusting, and that is only because of its association with a certain prominent politician from Pennsylvania AM I BEING TOO SUBTLE HERE PEOPLE!!??

    • Spuddie

      Yes you are being too subtle.

    • Msironen

      … santorum?

  • guest

    I’m betting that if he saw a couple of hot lesbians going at it he wouldn’t be too disgusted. He’ll be dead soon, and that’s a good thing.

  • R Vogel

    Ahhhh, the good old “It’s icky, so let’s destroy it” argument. It’s nice to see some people still appreciate the classics…..

  • SeekerLancer

    Because in Christianese supporting gay rights means you have to love gay sex yourself and want to make it mandatory for everyone.

  • Sven2547

    The intellectual quality of right-wing arguments against same-sex marriage was never very good to begin with, but recently it has undergone a decline.

    Before it was “It’s unnatural!” (so is heterosexual marriage), “It’s government interference in religious affairs!” (No it’s not), “It’s anti-family!” (starting families is PRO-family), and on and on.

    Recently, it reached a new low where the primary argument you heard was “Recognition of same-sex marriage infringes on MY RIGHT to discriminate against gays!” Yup. Conservatives are valuing the right-to-discriminate over basic equality.

    Now they’re abandoning even the PRETENSE that their anti-gay agenda is based on “we think they’re icky”. Truly pathetic.

  • Alexis

    Interviewer: Do you think sex is dirty?
    Woody Allen: Well, yes, if you’re doing it right.

  • danferguson

    I’m disgusted by the idea of Bryan Fischer having sex, therefore he should not be allowed to marry.

  • Cassiopeia

    I have four words for Mr. Fischer

    Lesbian porn. Slash Fanfic.

    Lesbian porn is often (quite strangely, in my opinion) targeted towards straight men while much of slash fanfic is written for and by straight women.

    That is not to say that all of it is. But there is obviously quite a market for ‘normal’ people to interact with all varieties of homosexual sex.

    And given the amounts of it, I reeeeaaaally don’t think 90% of the public would find it disgusting.

    And frankly, even if they do, nobody is asking them to go out and have sex with somebody else of their gender. They can happily go have all the straight sex they want to.

  • Glasofruix

    Well, as a straight male i do find dude on dude action disgusting and some other sexual practices as well, but then i know some people like it that way and it’s not my business to interfere.

  • Psycho Gecko

    Those quotes are still better than what wasn’t included on the video.

    “Yes, if only more people thought about gay sex as thoroughly as we do, they would hate it. I hate it, and sometimes I can’t help thinking about oiled up young men humping away at each other, their bodies sliding together like two pieces of a satanic jigsaw puzzle forming a picture of hedonism. It even intrudes on my thoughts with my wife and the thought of other men’s penises so disturbed me that I go off prematurely. Just the thought of those disgusting, immoral twinks grinding and thrusting, it’s enough to make me blow my stack. If I got my hands on one of them, I don’t know what I’d do. It’s enough to…enough to… oh lord…folks, I’m going to need a brief recess here, I have just felt the touch of the lord upon me and need to get to the bathroom and refresh myself.”

  • waebi

    Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
    Certainly worked.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Other people do tons of things I find disgusting. They have every right to do them. I just won’t watch. Not that the people who do those things want me to anyway. LOL It’s all good.

  • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

    On the bright side, at least Bryan Fischer has been reduced to his actual argument. “I think it’s icky, therefore it should be prohibited”.

    Which as I recall, is kind of why even Glenn Beck said the lost the marriage equality battle. They were on the wrong side, telling other people what they could or could not do.

  • Matthew Baker

    Its nice of them to finally admit that its the ick factor that really bothers them.

  • GirlCalledBob

    Hey, I’m totally with him on the fact that gay sex is gross. Also straight sex. Basically all sex. All of it, totally gross. I am down with this opinion. It’s all really, really icky.
    It’s the, ‘and that makes it evil’ part that I’m having trouble understanding here… and really, when an asexual is less bothered by sex than you are, you may be doing something wrong.

    • Watry

      This x 1000. I’m ace as well, and I talk about sex with my friends all the freaking time, because they know I won’t judge them.

  • Ray

    Does Fischer really want people to think? That would be the end of Christianity.

  • Matt D

    If he thinks describing gay sex is disturbing, he’s in for a big suprise, as there are all manner of fetishes out there that make such a thing appear as dirty as a Nun showing her ankles.

  • Matt Bowyer

    Mr. Fischer, please come out of your closet. You’ll feel much better.

  • CanadianNihilist
  • pRinzler

    As Frank Zappa sang,

    “What’s the ugliest part of your body? . . . .
    “Some say it’s your toes, some say it’s your nose,
    I think it’s your mind.”

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

    Having thought about gay sex quite a bit — don’t judge, I like slash-fic — it’s not ”
    gross”. It’s just, hey, two people, sharing pleasure, no big.

  • Amor DeCosmos

    I know, gross, right? Think of two men kissing – ewww, right? Think of two men, passionately kissing each other, their hands roaming over each others bodies, slowly caressing each others buttocks, chests, ripped abdomens… their souls and tongues intertwined, exploring each other all over… oh sorry… I wandered off there thinking about it…

  • Atheistiana

    I don’t feel the need to think about what ANYBODY does in the bedroom because it’s none of my business. I don’t need to imagine what people do together in private. How did he get such intimate knowledge of the process himself?

  • Terry

    Alright, well as far as I know, among the most popular websites on the internet are adult websites. Usually the most popular sections of these sites are the lesbian sections. So, considering the population, the adult website traffic, and the most popullar sections of these sites, wouldn’t it stand to reason that most Christians don’t find homosexual sex disgusting? Side note: When Christian people deride homosexual relations, they are almost always implying male/male relations and not female/female relations.

    • Greg G.

      I always thought it was interesting that those sites are most popular in the South and in Utah.

  • Conuly

    Viewed dispassionately, oral and anal sex are, yes, pretty gross.

    But then, so is *every other* sexual act. All those bodily fluids…!

    Sticking a penis in a vagina is no less weird and disgusting, when you think about it. So long as we all keep our private business, well, private, I don’t see why I should care.

  • Greg G.

    You know what else is gross when you think about it? Eating. A meal can be presented on the plate as a work of art but then people start putting piece s into their mouths and masticating it. If you open your mouth and push it forward, someone will say it’s disgusting. Once it is swallowed, it gets even nastier. We should do something about it on national radio.

  • joe

    actually, I think the real lead here is, Exactly how often DOES Bryan Fischer think about gay sex? I’m sure he thinks about it, gets disgusted, thinks about it some more, gets disgusted then aroused, and you can see where I’m going with that.

  • ecolt

    Because we all know that no heterosexual couples ever engage in oral sex, let alone a little bit of ass play. Why do I feel like these people have the most boring, unfulfilling sex ever?

  • Mary Leinart

    Someone could accurately describe the sex my parents have, and I would be grossed out. Or the sex Bryan Fischer and his wife presumably have. Gay sex? Not so much.

  • Spazticus
  • Guest

    I’ll be honest, I don’t like the thought of anal sex, gay or straight. That doesn’t mean I think it should be illegal. Other people enjoy it, that’s fine, just don’t tell me about it.

  • Ralph

    Some people find interracial sex disgusting, and the idea of a mixed-race child sickens them. This doesn’t mean it should be banned.
    The proportion of people who found interracial sex horrifying in the past was probably much higher too.

  • Guest

    Disgusting maybe not. Inherently dangerous and prone to disproportionately high levels of infections? According to the medical establishment, yeah.

    • islandbrewer

      That’s a great argument for better condom distribution!

      • Guest

        Which only leaves 1% of the population screwed (actually not, because the effectiveness of condoms varies with different infections – the ‘it’s always 99% effective in everything’ is one of the great urban myths of our age). Not to mention the fact that condoms aren’t very natural, and at the end of the day, most fellows would rather do it naturally than with an artificially manufactured synthetic product – which diminished the percentages even more. And of course, this all ignores the constant appeals by the medical and psychiatric communities regarding the disproportionately high level of drug addiction, mental illness and suicide that occurrences in the gay community, even in countries where homosexuality is condoned, if not outright celebrated. And recently, some stories circulated briefly in the news noticing that lesbians seem to have rather high levels of obesity, disproportion to the general population. So it’s not all Glee and Modern Family, is it (the Ozzie and Harriet of the post-modern television set)?

        • islandbrewer

          Whoa, whoa, whoa! You’re opening up a whole giant can of unsubstantiated assertions, there, buckeroo. But you are making a great argument for better universal sex education and condom distribution, again. I can tell that you want to fund efforts to educate people in third world countries about condom use, as well as other contraceptives. Thanks for that!

          If more kind and wonderful people like you made the effort to educate everyone on the dangers of unprotected sex, and we made a huge effort to distribute condoms and encourage safe sex, we’d make great strides in eradicating STIs as well as unplanned pregnancy, at least it’d be better than moralizing and abstinence only education, right?

          And yes, it’s sad that moralizing shitbags make life miserable for gays and lesbians, trying to deny them civil rights, telling them how horrible they are, even in countries where they aren’t imprisoned like here! That sort of stuff would drive most people to higher suicide and drug addiction rates.

          I’m sure glad you’re not one of those moralizing shtibags that causes such horrible things!

        • http://squeakysoapbox.com/ Rich Wilson

          And recently, some stories circulated briefly in the news noticing that lesbians seem to have rather high levels of obesity, disproportion to the general population.

          You mean all the stories stemming from a single study that found that straight men are nearly twice as likely to be obese as gay men? Those stories?

          even in countries where homosexuality is condoned, if not outright celebrated

          Right, just like living in a country where a black person can be president means racism doesn’t exist.

  • feetxxxl

    the truth is that given the number of heterosexual couples to homosexual couples and given the number of heterosexual couples that practice anal stimulation including penetration(because the anus(its stimulation makes vaginal and penile orgasms incredibly more intense) is an erogenous zone(all created by god) and anal orgasms are possible…………….. heterosexuals are increasingly becoming aware of this) right now at this moment, there are substantially larger number of heterosexuals practicing anal sex than homosexuals. I remember in the 70′s when oral sex was looked on as an aberration until “deep throat”. the 21st century is the century of the anus because of the necessary concern about cancer of the colon and rectal cancers as well as greater interest in nutritional health. feces is no longer termed “shit” but instead is termed “poop” and society is beginning to look on it as purely just another product produced naturally by the body, devoid of all the disgust and horror, held by the previous century.

  • arensb

    I have to admit I’m in Fischer’s 90%: I happen to find anal sex to be a turn-off, and I skip over the anal scenes in porn.
    I realize, however, that my sexual tastes are not a sound basis for making policy. After all, freedom.
    I don’t llke tattoos or broccoli either, but I wouldn’t dream of banning them.

  • Thom Watson

    I’m not sure that the setting in which Elise Chan made her homophobic remarks is completely accurately described as “private”. It’s not like this was a conversation she had at home with her husband, or at a neighbor’s house with a friend. She is a public official, and she made the remarks in a staff meeting with her staffers on government time, whose salaries are paid by the public, in her office, also provided by the public, in the context of discussing her opposition to a piece of council business intended to protect LGBT people from discrimination.

  • enoughisenough

    Homosexuality is an abomination. Period.

    • Matt D

      Since impotent rage is all you bigots have left, I’m sure we can graciously allow you to spew lies like this without caring one whit what you think.


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