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I am age 78, once a Catholic priest for five years (in the 1960's), then a math teacher for 44 years up to the present day. I became an atheist a few years ago. My hobbies are music and chess.
Leviticus. The handbook for temple servants. That lets everyone else off the hook, except those forlorn wights who want to pretend they’re temple servants.
I think God would consider many things defects beyond the physical disabilities. I am sure god considers his made creations that are gay to be dirty as well.
Ok this is all on the assumption that god is real and we know he is not.
Compare to the more compassionate Norse tradition: The lame one rides a horse, the handless one becomes a shepherd, the deaf one is good in battle, it is better to be blind than dead, of no use is the corpse. from: The song of the Highest (in this case, Odin) (my translation)
Convenient that you ignore the entire New Testament where Jesus heals the sick.
Great news! Jesus healed the sick… And what’s he been doing since then? Sweet blow-all it seems…
I’m just pointing out how absolutely ridiculous it is to take one single passage from the Bible to conclude that God hates the disabled, while completely ignoring that Jesus in the New Testament fought to destroy any ableist thinking of the time by curing the lame, the blind, the leper, and the sick. It’s intellectually dishonest.
How was Jesus curing the sick destroying ableist thinking?! I really don’t get that at all.
Yup…, jesus healed a couple of sick people and that made up for every other person who ever had a disability? That aside, if god (or jesus, who is also god) does not hate the disabled then how does he feel about them? Does he adore them as they spend a lifetime in discomfort? Or does he just not give a shit? I’m guessing the latter.
If god was any use at all he’d fix the bad that he created/caused or have prevented it in the first place.
He curtainly hasn’t head any sick people recently, DOCTORS do, but your sweet jesus doesn’t. Besides, NT crap that is all hearsay
Healing the disabled, even if it were to have occurred, is not “destroying ableist thinking”. Stop applying your creepy, wishy-washy, Liberal, anything-goes mentality and catchphrases to Jesus.
Funny how you can’t actually argue against the cited passage, only whine that someone would dare quote it.
If he was fighting to destroy ableist thinking, he’d have made the point that we are people, too. Healing us and making us conform to your ideals of “able” just reinforces ableist thinking.
If he was fighting to destroy ableist thinking, he’d have made the point that we are people, too.
Who said he didn’t?
Healing us and making us conform to your ideals of “able” just reinforces ableist thinking.
So a doctor helping a paralyzed person walk again reinforces ableist thinking?
So Jesus did a few magic tricks two thousand years ago to prove his divinity to gain followers–because evidently those people weren’t as credulous as modern Christians, and needed some sort of evidence–and that totally makes up for the fact that he could be alleviating all sorts of suffering today in his infinite power and doesn’t. Pretty convenient that all his miracles were done before modern technology could create a plausible record of it, by the way.
Congratulations for also missing the point.
The point is you only want people to pay attention to certain parts of your stupid religion. Got it.
My point is simply to make an honest argument.
“Honest” obviously doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means. Tarte was accurately quoting the Bible on disabled people. If you think it’s “dishonest” to mention unflattering parts of the Bible without mentioning the “nice stuff”, I’d be interested in seeing all the times you called out Christians for mentioning the “nice stuff” without the verses Tarte mentioned. Because you can totally do that, otherwise you’d just be a completely dishonest hypocrite.
Ah, you’re totally right! I just saw Jesus the other day in the special education class and the hospital just fixin’ everyone.
Wait no. I didn’t.
Ok so those people in the NT that Jesus healed get a pass. How about the millions since then? Or does it somehow not apply anymore and if that’s the case, why the contradiction?
Convenient that you ignore that the OT and NT describe the same deity. Or are you trying to defend your god by claiming, “It’s okay, he’s less crazy and vicious now”?
Kind of reminds me of how Jesus scoffed at the idea of not working on the Sabbath. He takes his dad’s rules and says “Pfft! We won’t be having any of that!”.
Jesus also spent quite a bit of time casting out demons… Why would any god make demons? I guess for the same reason he gave people diseases and deformities. Oh, and by the way, he still seems to hate amputees.
Why did he take a 2000 year coffee break? Was he too busy stopping starvation, child abuse, murder and rape to heal the sick?
This god guy sounds like he is like all the people normal humans scream about. He doesn’t like gays, then why did he make them, he doesn’t like deformativies, them why did he make them, he doesn’t like forskins on jewish boys, them why make them like that? IF he made them, why didn’t he make them the way he liked them? Sad that people would treat people they way they do and then say “we will pray for you”
Speaking of people with disabilities, can we please get a transcript?
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