The Wrong Advice to Give to a Mother Whose Children Are Subject to Proselytizing in School

In a recent Slate column, Emily Yoffe offers far-too-cautious advice for a mother whose child is dealing with religious proselytization in the classroom.

Here’s the setup:

My son’s elementary teacher sent a note to all the parents last week. The email included a link to her website. Included on the site was a note stating that she couldn’t wait to share Christ’s love with the children. We are a religious minority in this community and, living in the Deep South, I deal with this kind of thing every single year, whether it’s school-sponsored Bible study, the choir concert that includes Christmas songs almost exclusively, or my middle-school-aged daughter feeling like she has to become a Christian because the other kids at lunch tell her she’s going to hell if she doesn’t. Do you have any suggestions for handling these issues without causing my children to be ostracized or suffer retribution from the teachers?

Other than the peer-pressure-possibly-bordering-on-bullying from students, the rest of those things are hands-down illegal (assuming the mother is telling the truth and assuming this is a public school).

Yoffe’s advice unfortunately downplays all of this:

Let’s hope the teacher means that Christ’s love animates her feelings about her students, not that she intends to proselytize. But as you say, the religious assumptions of those around you are so pervasive that bringing a complaint might not do much except make school more unpleasant for your kids. If your concerns are mostly about afterschool Bible study or Christmas carols, I think you have to just shrug this off…

… Religion doesn’t belong in public school classrooms. But making a federal case of its every intrusion will only make it more difficult for your children.

That’s just bad advice. Groups like Americans United (which Yoffe mentions in a follow-up comment) and FFRF can send letters to the school making them aware of the improper religiosity without implicating the student — and, without making a “federal case” of it, change often happens as a result.

I don’t know where the letter-writer is from, but I hope she saw the comments on the site urging her to tell a church/state organization what’s going on. Letting this slide to avoid stirring the pot would only make things worse.

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  • DougI

    Ignore it and it’ll all just go away. I’m guessing the author doesn’t live in a very religious community. It never goes away, give a fundy an opening and they’ll exploit it for all it’s worth and try to make that opening wider.

  • Nancy Shrew

    It seems to me that Emily Yoffe has virtually no idea what it’s like to live in that kind of community. That’s not her fault, of course, but it does make her advice fall incredibly flat.

  • KMR

    It really does depends on what part of the south you live in. The deeper you go the more entrenched the religious practices in every aspect of life. This advice could be very good for say, Chapel Hill, NC. Florence SC not so much.

  • Heidi McClure

    Agreed, and I think the statement on her site about sharing her religion with her students is inappropriate. I don’t have any problem whatsoever with her having a religious site, or proselytizing on it to her heart’s content. I don’t even care if she’s a part time pastor. That’s on her own time, and it’s her own business. But keep the students out of it.

  • Teresa

    FWIW, friends of mine actually sued our Deep South school district for giving credit for bible study classes. Not only did they lose, but it opened a shit storm of community backlash for them and their kids. I sympathize but sometimes it is in your kids best interests just to shrug and move on.

  • UWIR

    I don’t think we should completely exonerate people for their ignorance, when their ignorance is regarding a serious moral issue. People in general have an obligation to educate themselves about such issues, and for someone in the media, this obligation is all the greater. And to top it off, her ignorance is a result of people taking her very advice! The reason she is not aware of all the crap non-Christians have to deal with is because they have given into the blackmail of “if you make a federal case out of it, we’ll make life hell for your children”.

  • KMR

    She didn’t actually say she was going to share her religion. She said she would be sharing “Christ’s love”. In the south that phrase is normally used to say that one plans to love someone selflessly and sacrificially. It doesn’t necessarily mean that you plan to verbally proselytize.

  • Aubrey Adrianson

    This is something that I’m growing very concerned about even though I live in the north. I start every school with a note to my kids’ teachers, reminding them that legally their religion needs to stay home. So far, it’s gone ok. I don’t say that we are Atheist, just that we’re not Christian. This year, one teacher asked if we had any traditions we wanted to share with the class. All I could think of was, “just keep your damn religion out and we’ll be fine” but I just said no.

    Anyway, I want to mention one possible solution and I’ve blogged about it a bit myself, but that’s letting our children know that they’re not alone in this battle. Of course, we should be demanding that the school stop, but the bullying from the other kids is difficult or impossible for a school official to stop, so the solution then to create secular peer groups for our kids. In the south, that could be harder, but it is possible.

  • Aubrey Adrianson

    Oh I should say it’s not the only solution, but one measure of many that secular parents should put into place to help their kids.

  • Nancy Shrew

    I just mean that it’s not her fault that she doesn’t know what it’s like. I don’t disagree with you, especially if she’s an advice-giver.

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    I’m just happy I live in Maine and my daughter has never had to deal with this kind of bullshit.

  • SattaMassagana

    Good point. I know I can take the heat, but putting my kids through one of these; I’d really have to think about that. I have no doubt I’ll be tested over the next 20 years raising my kids here in Mormon land

  • Keyra

    Yet another biased attempt to make Christians look bad. Try doing an article where New Atheists are the bad guys for a change (or at least Muslims or anyone else, why this fixation on Christianity?)…not recommending it, just some insight

  • Mike De Fleuriot

    Got an example of where the New Atheists are forcing their world view on children, with government support?

  • Mike De Fleuriot

    I can just see a Hindu saying this and it going down well with them Southern folk.

  • ShoeUnited

    New atheists are the same as the old atheists. We’re just tired of being beaten, bullied, and mislabeled for being atheists. That’s all.

    The difference between the old and new is that the new ask you to stop.

  • C.L. Honeycutt

    Come to think of it, if we wanted examples of Christians looking bad, all we’d need to do would be to get you to post every day.

    At least then you might read enough to make yourself look less stupid than you do when you contend that the site doesn’t criticize bad Muslim behavior.

    You have no insight, only ignorant, sulky griping.

  • cary_w

    Which is why the best advice is a letter, expressing concern but not threatening, from the FFRF is probably the best place to start. It gives the school the chance to do the right thing (get the teahchers to remove anything too religious and remind them that they can’t proselytize) without causing anyone any problems, making too big a deal about it or exposing the writer’s child to any backlash from the teacher or the principal.

    Backlash from the teacher is a real concern. My daughters best friend had a horrible experience with their sixth grade teacher, my daughter was treated fine by her and had a very good year, but her friend somehow got on her bad side and was picked on, accused of lying, and treated unfairly all year. I really think that’s what set her on the path of struggling all through jr high and high school. Not something you want to risk having your child go through.

  • cary_w

    Please bring it to Hemant’s attention when you find examples of Muslims, Hindus, Jews or any other religious group trying to force their religion into public schools and trying to get special privileges from the government, I’m sure he would be happy to write about them!

    As you Christians are so fond of saying, we are a Christian nation (if you define “Christian nation” as a nation where the majority of the population is Christian) so statistically speaking it only makes sense that the majority of church/state conflicts here will involve Christianity. Hemant is not “picking on Christians”, he is “picking on the religious”, and it just so happens that the majority of religious in this country are Christians, so what appears to you as a bias is simply a reflection of the Christian majority.

  • Inneresting

    I was just thinking the same thing. If this mom found other atheists, hopefully with kids, it would give them a chance to get away from all the faith pressure they get from school. And if there isn’t an organization like that, then maybe start one up.

  • Bitter Lizard

    Asking us to pretend you can be reasoned with is asking us to be dishonest. Sorry, not gonna lie for you. Attempting to reason with a theist has about the same success rate as trying to reason with a wall.

  • Bear Millotts

    Yes, it’s biased to point out illegal religious proselytizing in a country that is ~76% Xian.

    Biased to reality, that is. (It also makes sense that Xian, being in the majority, would be responsible for most of the illegal proselytizing since the bible expressly extolls the “virtue” of gaining converts by any means.)

    You also fail to understand that atheists, much less the Friendly Atheist, have no obligation to you. Don’t like that? Too bad.

    And finally, atheists don’t have to manufacture circumstances that “make Xians look bad,” Xians succeed on that count all by themselves. Pointing it out doesn’t make atheists the bad guy, any more than a journalist reporting the facts of a murder make him a killer.

  • LesterBallard

    Why wasn’t I born in Scandinavia?

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    Because your parents hate you :)

  • Feminerd

    Sooo want to move to Iceland :(. Unfortunately, my husband works in cloud development and Iceland has all of four technology companies he could work for. Also, Icelandic is one of the hardest languages in the world to learn.

    Yeah, we actually have looked into it semi-seriously lol.

  • UWIR

    This is simply a reporting of the facts. It’s the mark of a bully to blame others for the consequences of their own actions, such as pretending that the reporting of a person’s actions, rather that person’s actions themselves, makes them “look” bad. New Atheism, unlike Christianity, is not an agent of institutionalized oppression.

  • CarysBirch

    You’re lucky, I grew up in Maine and dished out this kind of bullshit to my classmates. (I am sorry for it now that I’m old enough to know better.)

  • Paul (not the apostle)

    Theist’s don’t do reason — they only do faith

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    Most of my daughters friends know she doesn’t do the God thing and even the religious ones don’t care or preach to her but preaching to her wouldn’t do much good. Her roommate at band camp this year tried it and my daughter just had question after question for her and it ended with my daughter being told, well you are going to hell then.

  • UWIR

    Schools can’t eliminate bullying, but they sure as hell can do a damn sight more than they currently are. They can start by eliminating the Principled Atheists, Please Identify Yourselves to Your Prospective Bullies morning ritual, otherwise known as “the Pledge of Allegiance”.

  • Feminerd

    Oh yeah, that happens a lot. I always considered it a win, though! It meant they ran out of actual justifications/arguments and just had threats to fall back on.

  • UWIR

    Shows how classy these Christians are, that they hold children hostage. School officials know that children being bullied is a possible consequence of their actions. If there were any justice, anyone whose violation of civil rights leads to bullying would be charged with child endangerment.

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    I had to explain to her circular reasoning after camp. A lot of what this girl told her just made no sense and I forgot to add, she did tell my daughter that she was a nice person though. Still hell bound but nice.

  • sk3ptik0n

    Sure, find the article where a christian child is being proselytize by the bad atheist teacher and all the atheist kids keep telling her god doesn’t exist and she isn’t going to hell over and over…

    Now that I think of it, even that wouldn’t be quite as bad. I mean the part about not going to hell.

    I have to wonder what planet you are from and why would you expect “fair and balanced” reporting on a atheist blog. I guess it’s not completely your fault, given our steady news diet of false equivalencies and “everybody has a valid point” reporting.

    But in case you have not figured it out, this is an atheist blog. The curators will publish news stories that will outline the grievances of atheists and other minorities, while highlighting any overreaching done by religious people and institutions.

    It is absurd to expect an atheist blog to take sides against its core readership. Just as absurd as a Christian blog doing the same.

    And if you notice (bit no, you didn’t) there have been plenty of articles critical of aspects of atheism. Nobody here works under the assumption that everything atheists do, collectively or individually, is always right and always just. But quite frankly, outside of “cleaning house” on certain topics or discussing current atheist related events, it’s really not the job of this blog to go search for stories that put atheism under a bad light. There are plenty of specialized and mainstream news outlets that already do that, often with clear bias and slant where none should be appropriate.

    As far as this and similar blogs, yes, it’s slanted and biased. Get over it. We happen to think our bias is good and yours is not. Just like you obviously think the same of ours.

    Here is an idea: go write your own blog and if you come here prepare some intelligent questions instead of trolling and generally bothering those that come here to have a discussion on topics that interest us.

    There is no law, not even any ethical standards that says we have to treat christians with kid gloves. Quite frankly, they don’t deserve it and as to your comment about Muslims or other religions, unless you are blind and dumb you should have found plenty. It’s not our fault that Christians in this country make a fool of themselves more than the muslims do.

    If a Mosque wanted to erect a 100ft monument and expect special treatment, you will read about it here. If muslims decided to make Sharia the law in some city in the US, you will definitely read about it here.

    But those things don;t happen. It is Christians that want to pass laws the follow their morality and that want to impose them on everyone else, Christian or not.

    Things would be different if this was “The Friendly Atheist, pakistan edition”. You can bet on that. And I am sure that if that was the case, there would be a clueless muslim writing a clueless post just like yours from the muslim perspective.

    You are not original or unique and certainly not interesting. What you are asking is preposterous, annoying and unfeasible. Since you clearly do not agree with the editorial guidelines of this blog, there are hundreds of Christian blogs out there for your perusal. Find one and STFU

  • Nancy Shrew

    I must have hallucinated that post about Orthodox Jews I read a couple hours ago.

  • islandbrewer

    Everyone I’ve met in Iceland under the age of 40 speaks English. Most people over that age, speak it, too, but with a Viking accent. Anyone who works for a tech company speaks English, I’m going to bet.

    Also, they no longer require that you change your name to an Icelandic patronymic!

  • islandbrewer

    It’s really not much of an “attempt” to make them look bad, per se. Christians are great at making themselves look bad.

  • Chris Harmon

    Yes!!! This!!!!

  • ElRay

    But if you don’t have any experience/knowledge, then you say, “I don’t know.”. You don’t dispense advice from a position of ignorance.

  • Latraviata

    The Netherlands has a nicer climate

  • DavidMHart

    If she plans to love someone, then she’d be sharing her love, not Christ’s. Why on earth would someone who didn’t intend to proselytize need to drag Christ into it at all?

  • fifi

    I’m an Atheist in Mormon land. Most areas are not as bad as the South. If you are in a smaller community with an over 80% Mormon mix though, I feel for you.

  • duke_of_omnium

    Atheists don’t have to make Christians look bad. Christians do that very well on their own. Atheists just point it out.

  • Janet Holmes

    That’s a pity, I’ve always been fond of the Icelandic patronymics.

  • KMR

    It’s an expression similar to the south’s “bless their heart.”

  • DavidMHart

    Fair enough, if it’s just a turn of phrase. But you can see how it is wide open to being taken at face value.

  • KMR

    Sure ;) But Christianity in the south is part of the culture. If you know a lot about the religion you realize that many southerners are actually horrible at practicing it but they’ll put Jesus’s name in everything and consider that their ticket to heaven.

  • Tainda

    Well I have had serious thoughts of moving to Finland so maybe we should plan a mass exodus. We can drop everyone off at their desired destination and make it a party boat!

  • g75401

    I had a similar conversation at work-about proselytizing being a form of bullying. My christian coworkers told me I and my kids should just “deal with it”. I advised them I was never going to sit idly by while my kids were the brunt of hate and intolerance. Needless to say, after a stunt were a bunch of teenagers were caught vandalizing a muslim community center in the town, my coworkers were also stunned to see the backlash on TV about “Victoria, TX, being a hotbed of religious intolerance”. Christianity today is nothing about love and peace. Christians don’t get it. The fact that neither of my kids has a proselytizing session start out with a word about Jesus’s teachings is proof positive to me. It’s all about hell to them.

  • KMR

    Of course! Although I will add that it’s the only the super religious who use this phrase. It’s a way of setting themselves apart from others, namely unbelievers. But it doesn’t mean they have any attention of verbally evangelizing. It could happen obviously (especially since she’s super religious) but it doesn’t HAVE to happen.

  • baal

    JT’s blog has a post today about one TV show using a small girl to spout Islamic noise. He called it child abuse (I don’t think I disagree). The reason christians get most of the light and heat is that they are dominant in the U.S. You can rest assured that we don’t really follow anyone’s deities and that we dislike all of the harms from all of the supernaturalists including the religious jews and muslims.

  • Feminerd

    Oh for sure. That was another reason to not move. I hate being cold, and Iceland is called Iceland for a reason!

  • Feminerd

    Sounds like a plan! Though I’m not quite ready to give up in the US yet- let’s see how the next few election cycles go first.

  • iamfantastikate

    “That’s just bad advice. Groups like Americans United (which Yoffe mentions in a follow-up comment) and FFRF can send letters to the school making them aware of the improper religiosity without implicating the student — and, without making a ‘federal case’ of it, change often happens as a result.”

    See, I think this is bad advice, too. Having grown up in the Deep South myself—Mississippi, to be exact—I know that if something like this happened in a school, and there were only a handful of known non-Christians, as is usually the case, those kids would be targeted by all the others for “causing trouble.” And word WOULD almost certainly get out about FFRF or similar involvement; it’s the South, where gossip is often king, especially if it has something to do with those “demonic others.”

    I would really only advise a course of action like this to a parent whose children were known to be made of tough stuff, and even then I would be cautious because you might end up bringing other children and parents into the quagmire who would have preferred to remain mostly invisible, even if miserable.

    Teens have more options, I think. They can try to start secular groups, as some others here have mentioned. Little kids, though… I think parents just have to get them through in one piece.

    My advice to this parent would be to get the fuck out of the South, if at all possible. Sometimes “being the change” is overrated, and I’d sooner go into debt to move to a new state where things such as this weren’t a frequent issue than try to battle it out with the (usually) cliquish and hyper-religious, possibly at the expense of my child’s well-being.

  • Tainda

    Oh you know we’re getting a fundie next time around.

  • Feminerd

    I know it’s really likely :( I do think if Hillary Clinton ran, she’d have a good shot at the presidency, but I’m really not sure if she’s going to. What are the Republicans going to do, bring up scandals that peopled yawned over a decade ago?

    I don’t know that she’d be an amazing president, but I think she could be a very good one. I want to see Elizabeth Warren run in 2016 or 2020 too, but I don’t know if she could be elected or not. She’s a fucking badass.

  • Tainda

    Ya know, that pisses me off more than anything. When they find out I’m an atheist but add “but you’re so nice!” Argh! It drives me insane…er

  • Oswald Carnes

    She means fuck the little bastards? Because “bless your heart” is how southern women say “fuck you bitch”.

  • Wendy

    Best reply I’ve heard to that comment is: “yeah, well if your going to be in heaven, then hell sounds preferable to me!”

  • Michaela Samuels

    This is the advice I am offered as well. When I find it less than helpful, I am shamed for being a bitch, overly, unnecessarily aggressive, putting my politics before my children, forgetting how to appreciate diversity, and so on. Really frustrating to see it, yet again, offered as a weak excuse for handling a real situation.

  • Bitter Lizard

    Mark Twain: “Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.”

  • imjustasteph

    The same sort of thing is one of the reasons we’re homeschooling this year.

    Someone should explain to this advice columnist what it’s like for a nine-year-old and an eleven-year-old when they’re dealing with a bully on the bus, and the bully has told them science isn’t real, and that if the 11yo doesn’t admit that it isn’t, he’ll punch his face until it looks like a platelet (no idea how that possibly works when you don’t believe in science; did wonder if he meant something like ‘small plate’), and the bus driver comes back to the place where the two kids are sitting, with the one holding his fist an inch from the other…..

    …..and the part she addresses is that obviously he’s right, we didn’t come from monkeys, “You came from your mama and she came from her mama, and far enough back they all came from Adam and Eve!”

    And completely neglects the whole fist issue.

    This and similar comprise one of the reasons we’re homeschooling this year.

  • barnestormer

    jeez. yes.

  • Gus

    I think Dale McGowan provides much better advice on this topic in Parenting Beyond Belief. This is a deeply personal issue and no one should feel obligated to take on the fight. But the decision has to involve a risk/benefit analysis and the consideration of a number of options. If my kids’ teacher were doing this, I have the fortune of living in a good sized city where the school district has an understanding of what’s legal and what isn’t. I’d have to decide if I was comfortable talking to the teacher myself, or would rather go straight to the principle, since we already have a good working relationship with him. But that might not be an option in many communities, and the FFRF route is definitely one to consider.

  • eric

    I’m sure Hemant would cover such an event. All you have to do is give him a link to an elementary school teacher with a facebook page where he/she writes how they are looking forward to share the joys of atheism with their students.
    Do you have such a link? If s,, post it as a response to this message!

  • Birdie1986

    Our schools are usually fairly good about disassociating the school from any religious events, etc., and I have found that teachers do not push their religion in class (so far). One thing I found interesting this year was a questionnaire that my son’s teacher sent out. It asked information in a sort of “get to know you” questionnaire. One of the questions was “Are there any holidays that you do not celebrate?” I really had a hard time answering that question because there are tons of holidays we don’t celebrate, like Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Eid, Ramadan, Festivus, Kwaanza, whatever Hindu or Buddhist holidays there might be, Wiccan holidays, etc. The question was, understandably U.S.-centric, but it also in some ways made an assumption that we might not celebrate some Christian holidays that they might want to celebrate at school, such as Easter or Christmas. I didn’t give a smart-aleck answer about all the non-Christian, non-U.S. holidays we don’t celebrate. I just said “We celebrate all U.S. Holidays” – i.e., the days I get off from work. We do happen to celebrate Christmas and Easter (I celebrate them as secular holidays, while my husband is slightly more religious on those holidays), but I just thought it was an odd question. I’m not sure how she should have asked it differently, or if she should have asked it at all. Any thoughts? (BTW, I didn’t find it offensive – just hard to answer).

  • VCP

    I lived there, and to a lesser extent, still do. I always felt like I was living in a foreign country, where the natives were all smiling and friendly and spoke English perfectly; but they also had a native language that they spoke to each other. And behind the smiles they were sticking it to the tourists.

  • Spuddie

    Virtually all Icelanders speak English though. Having the US and UK on either side helps with that.

    It has the world’s cheapest electricity and the most stark landscape you can find outside of a moonscape

    The only drawback is the native cuisine is pretty heinous and its winter 10 months out of the year.

  • Spuddie

    But the country is volcanic. There are hot springs all over the place.

  • Spuddie

    I would love to see Warren run. She has none of the baggage of Hillary and integrity to spare.

  • Nilanka15

    Nobody “attempts” to make Christians look bad. They do it themselves.

  • Nilanka15

    It’s all part of god’s plan. Duh!

  • bickle2

    With people like that, usually my first lowest to remind them that they’re not permitted to go to church so long as they have a closet in their dwelling. That usually screws with their head enough to make them at least temporarily go away. I hope someday to use the person in court to shut down every church in the country.

    If the person in question is reading, I highly suggest you and your entire family learn the Bible, and will teach Christians what they actually believe, and don’t take the cherry picking I don’t believe that for an answer. A Christian is required to
    believe every single word of the Bible without question. That’s what faith is: blind unquestioning belief

  • MD

    About the food… having visited Iceland recently, I can tell you that dinng there is fantastic.

  • Spuddie

    OK, 3 Frakkar restaurant in Reykjavik was amazing.

    But there is only so much lamb and cod I can take. Hákarl (fermented shark meat) is strictly eaten on a dare or after heavy imbibing. Brennavin tastes like Aqua Velva.

  • SeniorSkeptik

    Does not taste like Aqua Velva! After sloshing Brennavin around your mouth for a couple of seconds, the taste buds are dead and you can’t taste anything.
    But the lamb is cooked in a variety of was and I thought delicious. So are the candied potatoes.

  • Obazervazi

    There are reasonable theists out there. Reasoning with a ‘True Christian’, however, is fundamentally impossible.

  • Spuddie

    I have had my fair share of international rotguts and glorified moonshines. Brennavin ranks up there with the rankest

    I definitely ate at the wrong places. I must go back.

  • No Way Yaweh

    We often hear a lot of talk regarding white heterosexual male privilege, we should also start talking about Christian privilege in this country. Its not only annoying, but its condescending and border-line offensive that all of us have to hear people push their Christianity myths and superstitions on the rest of us. I can’t tell you how many employers and teachers I have had that just seem to assume everybody is Christian and carry on conversations constantly interjecting zombie jesus as if it was actually relevant to anything. My advice? Next time somebody says something to you about jesus coming back, tell them “good, because I’m stocking up on timber and nails”

  • LesterBallard

    Good thing I don’t believe in him. Or her. Or them. Or it.

  • LesterBallard

    I think Hillary Clinton will win, if she runs, and while she won’t be perfect, she’d be better than the Republican candidate. But I am worried about one of these really fucked up Republicans winning; Santorum, Perry, Huckabee.

  • Anna

    I think the teacher was trying to be sensitive in case there was a child from a fundamentalist family in her class. A lot of those kids wouldn’t be permitted to celebrate Halloween. JWs don’t even celebrate birthdays. I assume she wanted to know so that she could plan alternate activities for the students who weren’t allowed to partake in the festivities.

  • Anna

    Yikes. If I lived in that environment, I’d probably homeschool, too.

  • Ann Onymous

    Ach. That is bad advice. I strongly dislike the whole “Allowing abuse to continue unchecked will fix everything, and not being bullied is definitely a schoolkid’s responsibility!” camp.

  • Itarion

    Everyone knows that if you don’t stir the pot constantly then your soup will burn to the bottom.

    Yay for extended metaphors!

  • MD

    Reindeer meatballs. Salmon. Hydroponically grown veggies. And didn’t you have the world’s best hotdog? ;-)

    There’s the Fish Grill and Hofnin in Reykjavik.

  • Spuddie

    I definitely ate at the wrong places. =(

    Must go back there!