Because if Anyone Knows About Clinging to Sacred Theories…

Reader DeAnne was driving through Huber Heights, Ohio when she passed Free Methodist Church… and turned around to double check the sign… and turned around again just to get a picture.

It was worth it. It’s not that often that a church takes a shot at science only to have it backfire this badly:

They were good for the first two lines… until you realized what they were trying to do. And if anybody knows about clinging to sacred theories no matter what the evidence says, it’s the people in a church.

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  • http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-los-angeles/hugh-kramer Hugh Kramer

    Every once in a while life hands you a surprise. Who would have ever expected truth in advertising from a church sign?

    • Derrik Pates

      Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

  • Matt D

    It’s almost as if they grasp reason and critical thinking, but insist on using greased oven mitts to do so.

    • anniewhoo

      Ha! Brilliant response!

  • TnkAgn

    Really, religion has “sacred hypotheticals.” To call them “theories” is a knock on theoretics, as we know them.

  • Vicki

    I’m missing the part where we know for sure they aren’t pro science. Do we just assume they aren’t because they are Christians and all Christians are dumb?

    • christopherwing

      Perhaps a little harsh, but yes, I assume they are dumb. Anyone who believes that god made people, then got mad at them, killed most of them, and then had sex with one of them, produced a little god, then killed the little god so that people would be forgiven is dumb. Or lazy. But my money is on dumb.

    • Cincinatheist

      They believe that the Bible is literal. Thus, God created a person out of dust and another person from that person’s rib. Oh, and that people come back from the dead. And walked on water. And the sun and the moon stood still (but only on one day in history, never before or since) so a dude could finish killing other dudes in the daylight. I’d say that qualifies as anti-science.

      http://fmcusa.org/uniquelyfm/doctrine/

      • 7Footpiper

        Of course, what’s awesome is the fact that science has progressed to the point where we probably could create another human life using a rib, though obviously not only a rib.

        • WallofSleep

          *looks at god*.. *looks at Eve*.. *looks back to god*

          Disappointed Adam: “Can I have my rib back, please”?

          • Mary

            Well at least Eve didn’t have to worry about him looking at other women…lol

          • Artor

            Lilith *looks at god*… *looks at Adam*…
            “I’m outta here. See ya suckers!!!”

      • Intelligent Donkey

        God created Christians from dirt.

        Which explains why they’re full of shit.

    • http://chaoskeptic.blogspot.com Rev. Ouabache

      “True science” are code words that give away that they are Creationists.

    • skyblue

      No, not at all. We know that they don’t have a very good understanding of how science works, because they use the phrase “sacred theories”. A scientific theory is anything but sacred – it’s an explanation for the facts that’s stood up to rigorous testing and attempts to falsify it, which are welcomed, because either way, we learn more about the world!

      Creationists often use the colloquial definition of “theory”, as in “guess”, as in “I’ve got a theory you’ll have a sandwich for lunch” to misrepresent the strength of the theory of evolution, which has stood for 150 years despite no shortage of desire to find evidence falsifying it. (Just think, Darwin didn’t know about DNA, but when it was discovered, it supported the theory just as fossils and anatomical evidence do).

      So we know they don’t understand the scientific method, but yet they have no problem speaking as if they do on their sign. Perhaps “arrogant and ignorant” would be more accurate than “dumb”.

    • Bitter Lizard

      If the basis of your entire worldview is moronic and childish, you’re dumb. How could you describe such a person as “smart”? The word really loses all meaning if you apply it to grown-assed adults who have imaginary friends.

  • busterggi

    This is why a good poe is impossible to detect.

  • Cincinatheist

    There’s two ironic statements on that sign. “Free” Church is the other one.

    • http://friendlyatheist.com Richard Wade

      Maybe that means you don’t have to pay.

      • Cincinatheist

        Not to get in the door anyway, amirite?

      • http://chaoskeptic.blogspot.com Rev. Ouabache

        Actually that was one of the reasons they picked the name “Free Methodist”. They split with other Methodist church over pew fees. And that whole slavery thing.

  • lynn

    I don’t get it. What were they trying to say? God is the real discovery?

    • Rev. Achron Timeless

      Combine it with the creationist mainstay: “Evolution is JUST a theory”.

      Make more sense?

  • http://friendlyatheist.com Richard Wade

    It makes me wonder what they think “false” science is.

    Let’s plug in the antonyms of some of the adjectives and nouns, and see what we get:

    False science is about unreal concealment, not profane realities.

    Hmm. Sounds kinda Chopraesque.

    • Tom

      “reality” isn’t an antonym for “theory” in the scientific sense.

      • http://friendlyatheist.com Richard Wade

        I agree. I’m using the popular creationist assumption.

    • Tom

      Unfortunately, you can’t just reverse it all that way – using antonyms for both a noun and its corresponding adjective can cause a double negative, like with “unreal concealment.”

      • John Herling

        “unreal concealment” is not a double negative, but a contradiction in terms. If concealment is happening, it’s a real action.

      • http://friendlyatheist.com Richard Wade

        It’s not supposed to make sense. It’s supposed to make nonsense.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

    Ah, Accidental Truth is such a beautiful thing, sometimes.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com Holytape

    Well what did you expect from the Free Methadone Church?

  • WallofSleep

    True science is…

    1. Define a question
    2. Gather information and resources (observe)
    3. Form an explanatory hypothesis
    4. Test the hypothesis by performing an experiment and collecting data in a reproducible manner
    5. Analyze the data
    6. Interpret the data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypothesis
    7. Publish results
    8. Retest (frequently done by other scientists)

    You folks at the Free Methodist let me know when you can actually make it to number four with regards to your favorite fairy tales. I’ll not be holding my breath.

  • Robster

    Well at least it didn’t say “The baby jesus loves you” or something equally useless.

    • Intelligent Donkey

      I thought the little fucker grew up, like 2000 years ago? How can he still be around?

      Wait, does that mean that bratty pre-teen Jesus is still around? And angsty hormonal teenage Jesus?

      “Adolescent Jesus loves you.”

  • Rich Rodgers

    Apparently “real science” is the opposite of the stuff scientists say?

  • Bitter Lizard

    If theists could grasp the irony of themselves, religion would be dead within the week.

  • Rain

    Irony alert. I mean the “FREE” part. Not the other part. The other part is too dumb for irony.

  • Shelby

    Lots of church signs are oxymorons at best. Every day I pass by a church that has the most ignorant messages, usually taking jabs at atheists. This month they’ve switched things up a bit and have a sign against abortion (with the message being that women who have abortions are doing so because they see their pregnancy as an “inconvenience”). Even insaner is what’s on the majority of church websites. These churches should be labeled as hate organizations by the government. There’s a Baptist church in my area that has these sadist tenets among their Statement of Beliefs:

    “The Total Depravity of Humanity

    We believe that mankind was created in the image and likeness of God. By a deliberate willful act of disobedience, sin entered the world and as a result all humanity is lost and in need of redemption.

    (Genesis 1:26, Genesis 2:17, Jeremiah 17:9, & Ephesians 2:1-3)”

    and

    “We believe the souls of unbelievers remain, after death, in conscious misery until the second resurrection, when with soul and body reunited they shall be cast into the Lake of Fire, not to be annihilated, but to suffer everlasting conscious punishment. (Luke 16:19-26, 2nd Thessalonians 1:7-9)”

  • VCP

    My internet at work blocks the source of the picture. Could someone post the text of the sign?

    • TychaBrahe

      “True science is about real discoveries not sacred theories.”

      • VCP

        Thanks.

  • John Sabotta

    Well, sucking up to you people got them nowhere,

  • Itarion

    I will say this, though. The Free Methodist Church of Ohio is not the only church doing this. Check out this beauty from Indiana.

    • Richard Thomas

      Pentecostal Party Church? Sounds fun.


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