See? It’s Not Just Atheists Who Want to Eat Babies

I don’t know what makes people want to do this research, but it’s nice to have a scientific explanation for my desires:

If you’re like most normal people, you’ve briefly considered eating a baby or two.

Why is that, anyway? Why do babies always seem so delicious, even when you’re not particularly hungry? Using brain scanners and pajamas, an international team of scientists is closing in on a answer.

Apparently it has something to do with the way babies smell…

To be fair, the actual article is much more about how the smell of baby impacts how women bond with them and how those neural pathways are the same as those triggered by certain foods and drugs:

Taken together, these data suggests that body odors from 2 day-old newborns elicit activation in reward-related cerebral areas in women, regardless of their maternal status. These tentative data suggests that certain body odors might act as a catalyst for bonding mechanisms and highlights the need for future research on odor-dependent mother-infant bonding using parametric designs controlling for biological saliency and general odor perception effects.

But forget that. The headlines say it’s an explanation for why we want to eat babies. So have a delicious one today… for SCIENCE!

(Thanks to *way* too many of you for the link)

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. You can read much more about him here.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

    I might be abnormal in both my humanity and my atheism. I generally dislike children, and am utterly disgusted and repulsed by babies.

    EDIT: I thought it might be relevant to mention that I’m male.

    • JohnnieCanuck

      The right BBQ sauce might change that for you.

      • compl3x

        The proper marinade makes all the difference between an average tasting baby and an amazing tasting baby.

      • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

        babyque sauce

        You might be right, but I wouldn’t risk it.

      • busterggi

        And atheists make the best sauce!

    • Glasofruix

      I don’t really dislike babies and young kids unless they’re smelly and dirty, which is 99% of the time. So wash your babies before eating them.

    • joey_in_NC

      This is the second time I’ve come across the approval (from the like votes) of this version of misanthropy on an atheist forum.

      It’s one thing to honestly admit your discriminatory thinking. I mean, the reality is that are many people that have grown up in cultures that have fostered natural racist/ageist/misogynist/ableist thinking. But it’s a completely different thing for people to approve of such mentality and/or reason that such thinking is okay without striving to fix it.

      Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally. Why do babies get a free pass, but once you substitute it with black people or women or old people or the disabled we get all up in arms? It’s ridiculous.

      • Bitter Lizard

        Everyone was a baby at some point. Nobody who grew out of it takes these comments personally.

      • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

        My reaction to children and infants seems to be entirely related to my own preferences. As far as I know, it wasn’t taught or encouraged by anyone. According to my mother — who fucking loves kids, and wanted to have at least ten — I disliked babies and young kids even when I was one of them. Apparently, I gravitated toward older kids and adults.

        As far as discrimination goes, I would do so only in the context of my personal life. I wouldn’t deny a baby the right to vote, to join the military, or to marry a homosexual. But I also won’t make any efforts to be in their presence, unless something I do enjoy requires it. But, yeah, if I can get away from them, I will.

        My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela. If you want to discuss the merits of such things, I’ll gladly describe and explain my objections, and why I think my life is better without them. I can do the same with children.

        I’d also like to know how you think I should behave. Am I obligated to suppress my unfavorable preferences of anything with the capacity to comprehend that I dislike it?

        • joey_in_NC

          I’d also like to know how you think I should behave. Am I obligated to suppress my unfavorable preferences of anything with the capacity to comprehend that I dislike it?

          Do you “dislike” disabled people who have the same mental capacity as a child similarly?

          If not, then what is the difference, really?

          • C.L. Honeycutt

            He asked you a question. He did not ask you to deflect the question dishonestly, venom sack.

            • joey_in_NC

              Okay, I’ll answer his question…

              m6wg4bxw:

              Am I obligated to suppress my unfavorable preferences of anything with the capacity to comprehend that I dislike it?

              If you are “utterly disgusted and repulsed” by a group of human beings for being the way they naturally are, then I say yes, you are obligated to suppress these dehumanizing feelings.

              • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                There is no amount of displeasure, antipathy, or aversion I can have for a human that causes it to become nonhuman.

                • joey_in_NC

                  There is no amount of displeasure, antipathy, or aversion I can have for a human that causes it to become nonhuman.

                  Wow, that’s a relief.

                  So, you are you going to take back your “utterly disgusted and repulsed” rhetoric, or are you doubling-down on that?

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  Your participation is voluntary, of course, but I’m still waiting to hear why you think I can’t or shouldn’t dislike something I dislike. For now, I stand by my words.

                • joey_in_NC

                  …but I’m still waiting to hear why you think I can’t or shouldn’t dislike something I dislike.

                  You’re free to say that you’re “utterly disgusted and repulsed” by babies the same way an ableist is free to say he is “utterly disgusted and repulsed” by disabled people.

                  For now, I stand by my words.

                  Even after several attempts at explaining to you how the specific words you have chosen are dehumanizing…then so be it.

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  I somehow managed to missed your “several attempts at explaining to [me] how the specific words [I] have chosen are dehumanizing.” I think it’s because no such attempt appears in any of your comments to me. But to be fair, it could be as simple as semantic differences or this somewhat confusing thread structure.

                  If it matters to you that I consider your position, I suggest you formulate it in a reply. That way, I, and anyone else with interest, can read your opinion in one place. Make your case, as clearly as possible, and I will gladly respond. For clarity, it might help to begin with something like, “Here is my argument for X.”

                • allein

                  I love kids, but sometimes they’re just, well, gross. And annoying. And infuriating. But they can also be adorable and lovable and fun and amazing, and I like being around them, for the most part. My best friend has a 13-month-old and it is amazing to watch her grow and learn. But I can accept that some people don’t like kids, and would prefer not to be around them, and not think less of them for that. I don’t understand why you seem so defensive over the idea that some people just don’t like kids.

              • C.L. Honeycutt

                By your post history on FA, you are not doing that which you claim others are obligated to do.

                Stew in your hypocrisy, venom sack.

          • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

            If a person were disabled in a way such that s/he exhibited the same characteristics I find annoying among infants and children, then I would probably dislike that person as well.

            Now I’d like you to explain why you think I can’t or shouldn’t. And I suggest you discard your appeal to nature because people’s preferences can be as natural and unchangeable as their physical attributes.

            • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

              Fuck, I’m disabled, and I’m quite uncomfortable with that level of disability!

            • joey_in_NC

              If a person were disabled in a way such that s/he exhibited the same characteristics I find annoying among infants and children, then I would probably dislike that person as well.

              Alright. At least you’re being consistent…that your ageism is consistent with your ableism. I guess there’s no need for me to continue on with this discussion.

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

          OMFG this. With the added Body Horror of having a uterus and being able to gestate one of the little parasites.

      • Kodie

        When you do things together, when you do things the child likes, you have to pretend it’s the most fun you’ve ever had, and when you do things you want/have to do, the baby is socially allowed to scream its fucking head off, and nobody stares at it, they stare at you. The job of a parent is to take a wild animal and civilize it, and that takes a lot of work. But here is to say, children are uncivilized, often sticky and loud, and it’s not their fault, but it’s true, and some people don’t enjoy spending time with them.

        For example, I get to see pictures of what my nephew is up to and it looks like a dull damn day, but that’s a parent’s obligation to enrich their child and entertain them in activities an adult would not like, but to find whatever entertainment you can anyway by watching your child experience it. When you meet adults, you assess your interest in befriending them by finding common interests and when you spend time with them, it is doing something mutually interesting. You like to go skiing and they like to pitch darts in a bar, and never the ‘twain shall meet. You like to cuss a lot and they always bring their kid along. Incompatible. If you find your new friend likes doing a lot of things you don’t like to do, you can ease out of it or spend less time together doing fewer things you can meet in the middle on, but when you’re a parent, you still have to go. In case you hadn’t noticed, I’m saying, adults and small children just don’t have a lot in common. Children are really easy to dislike.

        • Bitter Lizard
        • joey_in_NC

          But here is to say, children are uncivilized, often sticky and loud, and it’s not their fault, but it’s true, and some people don’t enjoy spending time with them.

          That’s fine.

          I also think many disabled adults are often “sticky” and “loud”, and for some I also “don’t enjoy spending time with them”. But for me to admit that I am “disgusted and repulsed” by disabled people says so much more, don’t you think?

          • C.L. Honeycutt

            it says that in your raging bigotry (so unworthy of Jesus even in his worst quotes) you are willing to prevaricate and libel in order to fabricate a situation in which you can revile specific people for your imaginary, venomous beliefs that you project onto them.

            Again, you’re a vile little turd. You’re the one intentionally dehumanizing a group here in order to feel superior. Why are you filled with such bile?

            If you were saying this about Jews, it would be Blood Libel. Try to wrap your little shit-stained mind around that for two seconds.

            • joey_in_NC

              What exactly do you think I’m “prevaricating and libeling”?

              And who am I intentionally dehumanizing? Surely not infants.

          • Kodie

            I’m not disgusted and repulsed by children or babies. I just don’t like people that much, and I don’t think of babies any different than people. The problem is you’re not allowed to talk about it or else children might get wind that they’re not the fascinating creatures their parents think they are. I mean, really, what’s the biggest effort of raising a child? Beyond all the laundry, constant worry, and coordinating their schedules, and all that stuff parents do, is pretending to the child that they’re not that much trouble at all and you’re glad to do it. Then the parents expect everyone else to buy into that act with a smile.

            I’m just not that charitable with my opinion with children that is expected – if you meet an adult who is a shit, and their kid is acting shitty, some people feel sorry that the poor kid has to put up with that, and some people feel sorry for the parent. I’m more of the idea that the kid is growing up to be like the adult. I don’t care if he’s only 5 or 6, he’s a person well on his way to being one more asshole in this world. And it’s so sad, because poor parents are always being judged and stuff, but I don’t judge their parenting skills. If someone is displaying poor character to me and their kid is also, I know where that comes from, and that they’re not likely to grow out of it if I just be patient. It’s like this dirty little secret that kids grow up, and you can see their character developing, and you know right away you don’t like that one, but we’re supposed to, just because they are children.

            I am not sure, but I don’t think the disabled or anyone else likes to be pandered to, but here you are, advocating we pander to people just because they belong to a certain class, because they’re too raw and emotional and immature, we have to praise them all the time, even privately to other adults! You are fucking nonsense, joey. Nobody is saying that disabled people are bad or gross or disgusting or repulsive – but that doesn’t mean the whole category is exempt.

            • joey_in_NC

              I just don’t like people that much, and I don’t think of babies any different than people.

              What is the word that describes the generally dislike of people again? Oh yeah, misanthropy. I’m not too surprised seeing such misanthropic views here.

          • Guest

            Excuse you? My brother and I are both autistic (I on the social level, whereas my brother would be largely unable to function if not for therapy in his early life) and the idea that either of us are stick or loud is rather offensive. While we might exceed a ‘normal’ conversational tone, and my brother, who excels at sports, might get sticky in mud, the very implication that this makes up who we are as people is offensive.
            According to your own logic, merely holding this idea in your head for whatever minuscule span of time is the most unbearable of ableism.
            Please stop making my brother and I out to be your pre-conceived notion of the disabled.

      • RowanVT

        It’s not misanthropy. Not everyone is going to like infants (which belong to all races and all genders and have the same spectrum of abilities and disabilities).
        This is not uncommon in mammals. Plenty of female dogs will reject, or even kill their puppies. I had a foster pup where the male dog plucked her out of the litter and ATE HER LEG.

        • joey_in_NC

          Why are you even bringing up the subject of dogs? Do you think because dogs reject or kill their puppies, then humans should be allowed to as well?

          Talk about taking the humanity away from infants.

          • Nancy Shrew

            Why are you bringing up irrelevant shit in what is supposed to be a humorous thread? The world may never know.

          • RowanVT

            I’ll actually answer you.

            It’s because we are mammals, and the example with dogs (and cats, and horses, and chimps, and bears, and mice and…) shows that not every mammal is hardwired to like young animals of its species. Thus, naturally, some humans are going to not like young humans. But young humans turn into adult humans and the dislike ceases.

            My dog gets along fine with any puppies over the age of 10 weeks. Before that she runs from them, drooling in terror.

            I have a friend who is actually phobic of babies and toddlers. Being around them puts her on edge, and if they start crying she has to leave because of panic attacks.

        • Bdole

          I see you’re responding to this noxious cur with a species-appropriate example. :-)

      • C.L. Honeycutt

        Your own bigotry is showing in your desperate, desperate need to find something, anything to hold against us; your incessant, unquenchable hate that makes you describe “not a baby person” as “misanthropic”.

        You might want to turn off that projector for a while and go pray for help with your rage, you nasty little turd.

        • joey_in_NC

          Lol…where did m6wg4bxw describe it as he being “not a baby person”? Again, he used the words “utterly disgusted and repulsed”. His words, not mine.

          • C.L. Honeycutt

            You libeled a lot of people, venom sack. Learn to read your own words in between praying for forgiveness for dehumanizing those specific people here.

            • UWIR

              Whom has he libeled?

            • UWIR

              So, two people downvoted my request to explain whom he libeled. If he had libeled someone, those two people could have said whom that person is. Instead they just downvote. How is asking someone to actually defend their assertions downvote worthy?

          • A Baby

            I just want to thank you, joey, for standing up for us in the wake of these unfortunate, hurtful and offensive comments. For too long we have been denied so many rights that non-baby Americans take for granted. Until we can vote, drive, take out loans, run for public office, smoke, drink, get tattoos and be treated like equal citizens under the law in every way, our battle will not be over. People don’t consider that when they make anti-baby slurs, they are like salt in the wounds already inflicted by our marginalization. Words can be weapons.

            Again, thank you joey. Thank you.

            • C.L. Honeycutt

              I wonder if the downvote is from a victim of Poe’s Law, or from Venom Sack himself, too stupid to realize that it was just very gently pointed out to him that babies are not a marginalized minority group.

              • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                This isn’t a reply, but an attempt to contact you. I don’t know how else to communicate with commenters. I thought you might like to see UWIR’s latest post.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  I see, thank you! I don’t completely disagree with him on my word usage, and wrote about such.

                  I don’t think that DISQUS has any better way to share private conversations than to publicly state your email address, ugh. Worse yet, it can take anywhere from one day to two weeks for comments to show up in my email inbox (so I just stopped bothering with those), and the “My DISQUS” replies list above has frequent periods of slowness or even of skipping messages. Sigh.

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  Their email notifications have been mostly reliable for me. This was the first time I wanted to contact someone from the blog. I actually expected Disqus to have private messaging of some kind.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  It seemed like they should when I first thought about it, but maybe they’re trying to limit private communications, both to enliven the public ones and to keep everyone from “taking it to tells” and cussing at each other for six straight hours before blocking one another and lying about the conversations. :P

                  With public conversations, at least only one side is ever dumb enough to lie about it, and they have to wait a couple of months first and hope everyone forgets what they said. *coughcoughRWcough*

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  Yeah, I think you’re right. It’s better this way, even if sometimes inconvenient. Private messages would make a lot of disagreements worse. Hell, I’m not entirely comfortable with our ability to edit posts. I haven’t seen anyone abuse that function yet, but I’ve been expecting it.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  Commentmaker cleaned up his very first comment here (his first DISQUS comment in four years; he’s amazingly quiet when I ask him about that time spent in County.) I didn’t get the original copied, unfortunately. When people pointed out that he had been more uncivil from his opening statements than he had accused others of being, he went back and scrubbed phrases and an entire sentence so he could deny it.

                  Happily, he is the only one I’ve actually noticed. I do now copy entire pages again for that very reason.

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  I suspected it had happened somewhere. I hope I never have to deal with anything like that.

                  By the way, your earlier coughing fit seems to have been productive. The phlegm is on YouTube.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  Hmm, that makes sense. His type makes a slow circuit of forums, coming back around to the first one when they think it’s safe and they won’t get called out for past behavior*. Then they pitch a fit when it doesn’t work. They have this weird idea that they get social “reset switches”. I’ve seen two diagnosed narcissists** who do the same thing, make a circle of their acquaintances, exploiting, abusing, and dumping them in turn, and then expecting to get do-overs when they get back to the beginning, over and over.

                  *I can’t find a video clip of “Why you bringin’ up old shit?” from Friday. So much fail. :(

                  **They married one another out of terror when they thought they’d go to jail. It’s going to be hilarious when that finally blows up.

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  Shit. I thought you were talking about Rebecca Watson and her long absence from YouTube. LOL Don’t I feel stoopid.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  Pfffhahahahaha! Okay, never mind. Naw, the initials make sense. We were like two seconds from arguing past one another.

            • joey_in_NC

              No problem, A Baby. I also look out for the mentally disabled, because they also can’t do a lot of the things you mentioned above. I would also speak out if someone says that he/she is “utterly disgusted and repulsed” by the mentally disabled.

              • tubi11

                It’s perfectly fine to be disgusted by babies, or disabled people, or Negroes, or gingers, etc, etc. There’s nothing that requires all of us to like each other. I don’t HAVE to like any of those people, and it’s OK to say that I don’t

                What’s not OK is to act on that disgust by working to oppress individuals from that group, or to restrict their opportunities. That’s the difference between someone who’s uncomfortable around black people…and the Klan. Or between someone who just doesn’t like gay people…and Matt Barber/Peter Labarbera/Brian Brown/et al.

                • UWIR

                  “I don’t HAVE to like any of those people, and it’s OK to say that I don’t”
                  If you mean “It’s morally OK”, that depends on whether you’re saying it to provide information about yourself, or whether you’re treating it as saying something about that group. Whether “I’m uncomfortable when I see gay people make out” is morally OK depends on whether it’s followed by “because that’s my subjective response” or “because I don’t like seeing people sin”.

                  Of course, as far as it being socially OK, it almost never is. Juan Williams got into a lot of trouble for comments about his discomfort around Muslims, even though it was quite clear that he was making a statement about his feelings.

            • tubi11

              In some states, you can be tried as an adult. Baby steps?

              • A Baby

                I will not acknowledge that prejudicial expression. A number of angry babies, like myself and joey, have joined the IRA (Infant Retaliation Army) and we will begin reigning hellfire onto you oppressors until our demands are met.

          • Fred

            5 hours ago you simpleton.

            “My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I
            strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a
            vuvuzela. If you want to discuss the merits of such things, I’ll gladly
            describe and explain my objections, and why I think my life is better
            without them. I can do the same with children.”

            • UWIR

              So, that would be after joey_in_NC posted his response, and in a different post. If you’re going to criticize joey_in_NC’s post, shouldn’t you do it based on the post he’s responding to, and not act like something posted after his post somehow invalidates his post?

              • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                If I understand correctly, the time stamps don’t support your accusation against @disqus_izhfZyap8W:disqus.

                • UWIR

                  “I generally dislike children, and am utterly disgusted and repulsed by babies.” m6wg4bxw Sep 24 3:56 AM

                  “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.” joey_in_NC Sep 24 6:25 AM

                  “My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela.” m6wg4bxw Sep 24 7:04 AM

                  At 6:25, joey responded to your 3:56 post. 39 minutes later, you wrote another post. Fred then chastised joey’s 6:25 post based on your 7:04 post. I don’t know what timestamps you’re looking at, but the case looks quite clear to me.

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  You’re an idiot.

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  If I understand the situation correctly, you think @disqus_izhfZyap8W:disqus was premature to criticize @joey_in_nc:disqus for asking @clhoneycutt:disqus, “Where did @m6wg4bxw:disqus describe it as he being ‘not a baby person?’”

                  Is this correct?

                • UWIR

                  Here is the sequence (I’ll refer to you in the third person so that the reader doesn’t have to keep track of who “you” refers to):

                  m6wg4bxw Sep 24 3:56 AM

                  I generally dislike children, and am utterly disgusted and repulsed by babies.

                  joey_in_NC Sep 24 6:25 AM in response to m6wg4bxw Sep 24 3:56 AM

                  Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.”

                  C.L. Honeycutt [The account is private, so I wasn't able to get timestamps from CLH's account] in response to joey_in_NC Sep 24 6:25 AM

                  your incessant, unquenchable hate that makes you describe “not a baby person” as “misanthropic”.

                  m6wg4bxw Sep 24 7:04 AM

                  My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela.”

                  joey_in_NC Sep 24 11:44 AM

                  Lol…where did m6wg4bxw describe it as he being “not a baby person”? Again, he used the words “utterly disgusted and repulsed”. His words, not mine.

                  C.L. Honeycutt in response to joey_in_NC Sep 24 11:44

                  You libeled a lot of people, venom sack.

                  So, here are two claims made by CLH:

                  1. Joey “libeled a lot of people”. This was in reply to Joey’s Sep 24 11:44 post, so the obvious conclusion is that CLH was claiming that Joey’s claim that m6wg4bxw “used the words ‘utterly disgusted and repulsed’ “ was a lie, which it was, in fact, not.

                  2. Joey “describe[d] ‘not a baby person’ as ‘misanthropic’ “. In other words, CLH claimed that Joey’s description of m6wg4bxw’s position as being misanthropic was in response to m6wg4bxw self-describing as “not a baby person”. CLH’s claim was in reply to Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post. Hence, CLH was asserting that Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was in response to m6wg4bxw self-describing as “not a baby person”. However, Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was NOT in response to m6wg4bxw self-describing as “not a baby person”. This was blatant dishonesty on the part of CLH. Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was in response to m6wg4bxw self-describing as “utterly disgusted and repulsed” by babies. When Joey challenged CLH’s claim, Fred quoted m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post. Therefore, Fred is asserting that CLH’s claim that Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was in response to m6wg4bxw self-describing as “not a baby person” was based on m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post*. However, one can see quite clearly that Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was not in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post. For one thing, each Disqus post that is a reply to another post is marked as being a reply to that post, and Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was not marked as being in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post. On top of that, as anyone with a basic understanding of time knows, Sep 24 6:25 AM is before Sep 24 7:04 AM. Basic common sense (something Fred apparently lacks) therefore tells us that Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM was not in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post. Fred is claiming that at Sep 24 6:25 AM, Joey described m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM statement “My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela.” as misanthropic. Fred is therefore claiming that at Sep 24 6:25 AM, Joey responded to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post. This is absurd.

                  To summarize:

                  1. CLH/Fred implicitly claimed Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post

                  2. Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was not in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post

                  If anyone has any problem with this post, they should say which of the two above statements they disagree with, and why. Just downvoting without addressing any of my arguments shows you’re a dishonest, immature coward.

                  This post is now over seven hundred words. Seven hundred words to explain the blatantly obviously fact that Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was not in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post. There is something seriously wrong with people here if it takes this much effort to explain basic time comprehension concepts.

                  *This sentence is hard to follow, so I’ve rewritten with quote blocks:

                  Therefore, Fred is asserting that

                  CLH’s claim that
                  Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was in response to
                  m6wg4bxw self-describing as “not a baby person”

                  was based on m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post

                • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

                  I have no idea how to respond. I am absolutely astounded.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  I didn’t downvote them, because “libel” is most certainly an arguably incorrect choice of words. And I agree that downvoting thought-out and methodically constructed arguments when no one has rebutted them is nonsense. An argument doesn’t have to rebutted by everyone that comes across it, but if no one has YET rebutted it, there’s a certain obligation to do so if one is going to downvote (with the qualifier that sometimes people simply lack time.)

                  As I told some person who recently went on about his supposed reading comprehension skills, mine don’t immunize me from errors, especially technical ones as opposed to rhetorical ones. Arguably it means I have to pay MORE attention, because complacency is toxic. I will argue that Joey’s dehumanizing hyperbole and dishonesty in an ongoing context, including here, counts, and, without implying it to be on the scale of actual Blood Libel, I believe his insinuations to be of a kind with those.

                  As well, there was most certainly libel when he indicated that those who had upvoted m6′s post for whatever reasons they may have had were misanthropes and more. Some of those people appear by name, and he makes sweeping, nasty judgments against their characters because they have more in common with disliking being around babies than with not disliking it. Both are very normal, and NOT indications of character or negative behavior, although it is not hard to draw analogies between the behavior of the Baby Crowd and that of the religious crowd with respect to their treatment of and assumptions about the Childfree Crowd.

                  Note that Joey’s only defense against being called out for his behavior is a technicality. Like all his ilk who come here, he is intentionally dishonest, because he has no interest in a single word that anyone writes unless he can warp it for confirmation bias.

                  Note also that after a certain point, I don’t find that people who prevaricate like Joey can say much of anything to defend themselves on any point whatsoever. His defense here amounts to “It wasn’t actually Kool-Aid I used to murder all my cult followers. It was Flavor-Aid, you dumbasses. Therefore I win.”

                  EDIT: Um, here and there.

                • UWIR

                  “Note that Joey’s only defense against being called out for his behavior is a technicality.”
                  As far as the particular issue of whether he was responding to “not a baby person”, there is absolutely nothing “technical” about his defense. There absolutely was something other than “not a baby person” that he was responding to.

                  “Like all his ilk who come here, he is intentionally dishonest, because he has no interest in a single word that anyone writes unless he can warp it for confirmation bias.”
                  Given the behavior of people like Fred, it’s a bit odd to be singling out joey for accusation of dishonesty. I said that joey’s post was before the post that you quoted. Fred quite clearly responded to that claim by saying that I couldn’t tell time, and he absolutely refuses to acknowledge his error.

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  You’re the one who’s mistaken, now please STFU.

                • UWIR

                  If you;’re not going to say which of my statements is false, and how, then your’e just being a troll. 6:25 is before 7:04. None of your swearing is going to change that.

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  You lack reading comprehension, and are intentionally stirring up shit.

                  Stop.

                • Fred

                  Everyone has misunderstood the situation except him.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  The technicality was the legal definition of libel. He most certainly commits it ethically every time he visits here. Equating that behavior with Fred for this one trivial thing is a serious failure of perspective

                • Fred

                  “1. CLH/Fred implicitly claimed Joey’s Sep 24 6:25 AM post was in response to m6wg4bxw’s Sep 24 7:04 AM post”

                  WRONG!
                  I was replying to Joey’s Sep 24 11:44 AM post “Lol…where did m6wg4bxw describe it as he being “not a baby person”?”

                  By quoting m5w..’s from 5 hours before on Sep 24 7:04 AM (disgus rounded up not me) “My reaction to babies is similar .”
                  4 hours and 40 minutes had gone by and this should have been ample time for a for someone who was continuing to castigate a poster over their imagined thoughtcrime to actually read their whipping boy’s responses.

                  Yes you wasted 700 words on something that was entirely a misapprehension on your part. I really don’t understand how you came to that conclusion unless you knee jerk think that other people don’t understand linear time and causality.

                  “There is something seriously wrong with people here if it takes this much effort to explain basic time comprehension concepts.”

                  OK, maybe you do knee jerk. Good luck.

                • UWIR

                  I was replying to Joey’s Sep 24 11:44 AM post “Lol…where did m6wg4bxw describe it as he being “not a baby person”?”

                  And in doing so, you implied that Joey was responding to the 7:04 post. I explained this in my post, and you didn’t bother responding to that.

                  By quoting m5w..’s from 5 hours before on Sep 24 7:04 AM (disgus rounded up not me) “My reaction to babies is similar .”
                  4 hours and 40 minutes had gone by and this should have been ample time for a for someone who was continuing to castigate a poster over their imagined thoughtcrime to actually read their whipping boy’s responses.

                  Care to try that in English?

                  Yes you wasted 700 words on something that was entirely a misapprehension on your part. I really don’t understand how you came to that conclusion unless you knee jerk think that other people don’t understand linear time and causality.

                  I posted this::

                  So, that would be after joey_in_NC posted his response, andin a different post. If you’re going to criticize joey_in_NC’s post, shouldn’t you do it based on the post he’s responding to, and not act like something posted after his post somehow invalidates his post?

                  Since you apparently need things spelled out for you, this meant:

                  So, the statement “My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela.” would be after joey_in_NC posted his response that “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.”, and in a post different from the post that Joey was responding to when he said “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.” If CLH is going to criticize Joey’s post saying “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.”, shouldn’t he do it based on the post that he was responding to when he said “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.”, and not act like something posted after his post in which he said “”Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.” somehow invalidates his post in which he said “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” by human beings the way they are naturally.”?

                  To that, you responded “UWIR do you need help understanding how to tell time?”

                  Now, what was the meaning of that question? You, showing your dishonest colors, avoiding phrasing your response as explicitly making an assertion, but there is no sensible interpretation other than that you were asserting that my characterization of “My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela.” as being after joey_in_NC posting “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” ” was incorrect. In other words, you asserted that “My reaction to babies is similar to my reaction to other things. I strongly dislike hymns, NASCAR, cooked spinach, and the sound of a vuvuzela.” came before “Sorry, but I don’t think there is anything right about being “disgusted” and/or “repulsed” “. Despite my presenting timestamps clearly showing you to be wrong, you refuse to admit your mistake. If there is a misunderstanding, it you, not I, who is misunderstanding. I wrote my post. I know what it meant. It meant that joey’s 6:25 post came before the 7:04 post. You clearly indicated that you disagreed with me. Hence, you either failed to read my post correctly, or you believe that 7:04 comes before 6:25.

                • Fred

                  “And in doing so, you implied that Joey was responding to the 7:04 post. I explained this in my post, and you didn’t bother responding to that.”

                  Sigh.
                  Since Joey was actually replying to Honeycutt why would you think Joey was replying to m6? (rhetorical question, I don’t care)

                  I didn’t reply to your other supposed points because they were imprisoned in a wall of text and BORING. I really don’t care enough to work through why you think the way you do. Your pedantic accusations are disinteresting to me and can only serve to waste more of my time.

                  I leave now so you can compose another unread wall of text. Please declare it a win. Drink deep from the Victors Cup, pat yourself on the back and enjoy a celebratory lap around the room.

                • UWIR

                  “Since Joey was actually replying to Honeycutt why would you think Joey was replying to m6?”

                  I don’t think Joey was replying to m6′s 7:04 post, I said you implied that he was. When I said “you implied that Joey was responding to the 7:04 post”, I meant “you implied that Joey’s 6:25 post was responding to m6′s 7:04 post”, not “you implied that Joey’s response to Honeycutt was a reply to m6′s 7:04 post”.

                  Apparently, if I don’t spell everything out in excruciating detail, you are unable to understand what I am saying, and if I do spell everything out in excruciating detail, you mock me for posting a “wall of text”.

                  “(rhetorical question, I don’t care)”
                  You care enough to try to misrepresent the situation. “Rhetorical question” is just another way of saying “assertion dishonestly put into the form of a question”.

                  Here’s the Reader’s Digest version: Honeycutt attacked joey’s 6:25 post, claiming that the 6:25 post was responding to the phrase “not a baby person”. joey denied that what he was responding to was the phrase “not a baby person”. You responded to this denial by saying that m6 had, in fact, called himself “not a baby person”, and quoted a post that was posted after joey’s 6:25. I pointed out the illegitimacy of this response. and you then engaged in evasion after evasion, and mocked me for rebutting those evasion.

                  Is that simple enough for your tiny little brain?

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  OMFG, SHUT UP.

                • Fred

                  I get it now. You’re a crazy person.

                  The implications you are seeing are made up entirely in your own head much like Joey’s rage at m6′s seeming genocidal disdain for babies.

                  Since you’ve responded to my explanation with accusations of evasion and dishonesty, I have to ask, what do you hope to gain from this since you’ve already decided that I’m not communicating in good faith?

              • Fred

                UWIR do you need help understanding how to tell time?

                • UWIR

                  No, but apparently you do. You do realize that posts with larger times next to them were posted before posts with smaller times, right?

                • Fred

                  That’s a relief. So you do know how to tell time, you just don’t understand what quotation marks are. Not much of an improvement.

                • Fred

                  Pro Tip: If you are about to go into a 700 word explanation of how everyone is wrong and you are right over a colossally simple concept. STOP. Perhaps you’ve misunderstood the situation.

      • Fred

        If you’re an idiot in search of a village I’d suggest you move along.

      • Fred

        It takes a special kind of idiotic persecution complex to escalate “I don’t like babies in the same way that I don’t like certain kinds of music or food.” to “babies aren’t human”.

        Fuck off and get a life.

      • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

        Because babies are disgusting.

        They put everything in their mouths, drool like St. Bernards, often have hands (and faces) covered in unidentifiable goo that might have once been food, tend to be amazingly efficient disease vectors once mobile, and they’ve a frightening tendency to randomly explode in a mess of shit, snot, or vomit (sometimes in combination).

  • mikespeir

    “If you’re like most normal people, you’ve briefly considered eating a baby or two.”

    People keep telling me I’m not normal. Now I’m starting to wonder.

  • sam

    OK fine, so non-atheists want to eat them, too, but only atheists know how to properly _prepare_ a nice baby. Fava beans and a nice Chianti are optional.

  • Mark Heil

    I’m guessing this may be a relic of the instinct that causes most mammalian mothers to lick their babies clean?

    • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

      I had a pet cat when I was a kid. I would sometimes give it cat treats, which I always thought smelled quite good. Inevitably, I ate some, and that’s when I learned they were significantly better to smell than to taste. I’ve also managed to accidentally spray air freshener into my mouth, more than once, with similar results.

      • Hertzey

        I had a similar thing happen with scented soap…

        • baal

          I suggest you and m6 don’t start sniffing antifreeze or mothballs.

          • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

            Oh no, I’ve learned lessons since then. Antifreeze is toxic, and moths lack the capacity to give meaningful consent.

            • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

              *dying*

      • C.L. Honeycutt

        Yeah… I once ate a cat dental treat. Not only was it the most rancid actual food item I’ve ever tasted, but the dental treats are made to stay on the teeth for a while. You can’t wash the taste out. You can’t BRUSH it out at first.

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

          Oh, so they’re just like kale…

          • C.L. Honeycutt

            Annnnd there goes any chance that I will ever try kale. The cat treat is just too strong an association.

            • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

              Trust me, kale is nasty stuff.

              • C.L. Honeycutt

                Are you a supertaster* by chance? I am, and it definitely screws with the ability to not look like a picky weirdo next to more typical people who don’t understand how nasty some things are.

                *It’s a dumb word, but I never found a better term.

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  It’s not just taste. It’s all my senses. I have sensory processing issues, and yeah, I often end up being the “picky weirdo” who won’t eat things because the smell, taste, or texture is so… so… off-putting.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  I could see that. I have some thankfully minor, yet all-the-same maddening texture problems, and go batshit at many, but not all, types of loud or harsh noises. These are reportedly autism issues, and are, surprise, shared by those in my family who are more afflicted by the condition.

                  Taste used to be a big issue, but is coming under control one food at a time. This is corresponding to some pretty rapid weight loss as I get better at tolerating formerly intolerable foods. Many are still bitter; they’re just more edible now.

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  It’s a condition that is linked with autism, cerebral palsy, and some brain injuries.

                  I’m working on expanding my tolerance range, but find there are some things that just plain make me gag. Like tofu, or oatmeal.

                • C.L. Honeycutt

                  but find there are some things that just plain make me gag. Like

                  My brain initially read the last few words of that section as, “that just plain make me gag, like Lady Ga-Ga”. That probably doesn’t mean anything. :P

                • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

                  *snorf*

  • A3Kr0n

    To be fair… That article has nothing to do with eating babies.

  • trj

    I’d like to see a source for the assertion that most normal people have considered this.

    • phantomreader42

      I’d like to see a source for the assertion that “normal people” is a meaningfully-defined set.

  • GodlessPoutine

    My wife and I noticed that friends would make odd comments like “he’s so cute, I just want to gobble him up!”. Now I have an explanation. Thanks, Science.

    We thought it was sort of creepy. I suppose you may feel that way if you don’t have to deal with what comes out its bum and jets right up its back. (Poopy burrito.) Or, in the case of a boy – I have a son – what comes squirting out all over the place before you have a chance to grab anything at all to deflect the stream safely.

    Right. Sorry for that, kid-less crowd.

    • Tainda

      That’s why being a grandparent is so damned awesome. I tell my daughter “She stinks! Go change her diaper” she changes it, comes back and I cuddle her some more lol

  • Ryan Fox

    I have often joked this was support for evolution as the bloodlines with ugly babies ate their young and thereby suspended the bloodline.

  • Mick

    If you’re like most normal people, you’ve briefly considered eating a baby or two.
    What a load of crap!

    The Christian Science Monitor Wiki entry includes this: “The paper has been known for avoiding sensationalism, producing a “distinctive brand of nonhysterical journalism”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Christian_Science_Monitor

    Now might be a good time to edit that statement.

  • beatonfam

    all jokes aside, I do feel a very strong compulsion to “eat” babies whenever I get the chance. By eat I mean I feel an uncontrollable urge to smell their little necks and kiss their soft, well, everything. Now that mine are 12 and 8 and want no part of the smelling and kissing, I borrow the neighbor’s baby. If you have never experienced this desire it is hard to explain. It feels as organic and basic a desire as being hungry or thirsty.

    • Kodie

      I thought it was because their arms and legs are so fat and smooth. I don’t hate babies. It sounds like I do from another post I made in this thread, but I don’t have to spend that much time with any. There is something about a baby’s leg that seems like you have to chomp on it. If you pass a newborn baby around, it doesn’t seem uncommon to hear “Ooh, I could just eat you!” and poor baby gets kissed on all the tender legs and arms and fat squirrel cheeks. Objectifying a baby like this starts to sound disturbing, after all, since they are pretty much for admiring physically and touching, squeezing, and kissing all over, and passed around by the mother for everyone to do so.

      I do think this is how people bond with an alien to the group, I know if babies weren’t so cute, we might all reject them. Objectively, rationally, if you think about it, they don’t have a lot else going for them – I mean, I like doggies too, a lot of people do, and it’s hard to pass one by (especially where I live) without wanting to pat its head and not even ask the owner if it’s ok. I think that’s rude so I don’t do it if I don’t actually know the person, but if I could, I would just bypass dog-owners and go straight to greeting their dog before moving on. It is probably because dogs don’t know any better and they look at you and pull on their leash to check you out while the owner is walking eyes front. But anyway, it’s the reasons I don’t want to have a doggie of my own, these things are awfully unpleasant parts of the whole package, but I don’t say I hate dogs, right?

      Babies and toddlers do the same thing, and I think parents like it when you admire their kids, while at the same time, hate it when you focus all your attention on their kid and ignore the adult. They want to pass around their baby like it’s show-and-tell and let everyone smack a big kiss on their tummy, and this reaction bonds the baby and validates the parent at a time they are confronted with the unpleasant parts of the bargain – and if you don’t react with this type of adoration, it’s you who are a weird, unsavory type. How could you reject a poor cute ‘ittle baby like that? It is a weird way to introduce your baby to people, such that is what people normally want to do, reach out to that hand that’s reaching out and move in to the cheeks, that some parents put signs on their baby’s stroller not to touch the baby without permission.

      And as far as I know, children who are old enough to talk hate having their cheeks pinched.

      • beatonfam

        All jokes aside, I do think there is some leftover evolutionary impetus that makes us find infants so appealing. Infants are such demanding creatures and extremely needy relative to their size and usefulness. Back during survival of the fittest days we needed some primal urge to keep them alive.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke, TOWAN

          there is also the urge to kill them. i’m being serious, but not saying i would ever do it, just that i am a primate and this is recorded by science. many primate species kill young offspring from mates who previously mated with another.

          i was horrified, and i do mean “horrified,” by my upper level primate anthro class in grad skool. my gawd, we are brutal chordates, among ourselves. primates who bash babies on rocks for reproductive advantage, horrible.

          i am totally pro choice. but i also see the not-really-discussed biological habit our species still practices, which is deliberate infanticide. thuglicans practice this all the time, cf: cutting food stamps for children.

    • The Other Weirdo

      Do they know you’re borrowing it? ‘Cause, you know, there is a word for that.

      • beatonfam

        Yes. This is pre-arranged baby nibbling. The best baby nibbling is pre-arranged, short term nibbling of other people’s babies. Nibble for and hour or two, enjoy yourself then give the child back and get a full night’s sleep.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke, TOWAN

          trying to be semi scientific about it, it makes perfect sense to me. babies do smell tasty. you shut that down when you’re changing one, or when it’s in church or something and others are watching you. but if you’re caring for a baby, and you’re not its mother… yeah. they smell, well, like bacon, but different.

          i can totally understand baby eating. or rather, the desire for it. i refrain, myself. jeebus told me it was wrong, so there’s that.

          • The Other Weirdo

            Me: “What do babies smell like?”
            You: “Well, you know how delicious bacon smells?”
            Me: “Yes.”
            You: “Well, it’s nothing like that, except that it’s also delicious-smelling.”

          • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

            Uh huh. So, tell us. How do you make a BLT?

    • jejune

      and this is how babies get herpes on their mouths and faces

  • DougI

    Is it a woman thing? Because I think babies smell horrible and people put the horrible smelling baby powder on babies to mask the stench but it just multiplies the stink. Safe to say, I’ll never be eating babies which makes me a bad Atheist.

    • Hertzey

      I don’t think its a female thing. I think its a “people who like babies” thing.

  • Hertzey

    And now my icon of the baby eating statue makes sense…

  • Erin

    I am reasonably certain that I have never experienced an urge, fleeting or otherwise, to eat a baby. Glad to see I’m abnormal on yet another metric.

  • C Peterson

    Yuck. Babies are gross. They leak, and they stink. I hate being in a room with kids younger than three or so. I look forward to the day when technology allows babies to be decanted and raised out of public view.

    If others want to eat them, so be it. I’ll take a pass.

    • The Other Weirdo

      We call them the Borg.

      • Stev84

        I was thinking about “Brave New World”. Though those wee also clones.

  • Tainda

    Uhhh, when I say I want to eat babies I’m joking. Seriously. WTF? lol

    I do love to cuddle with my granddaughter though! She’s taking after her Moogie that is for sure. No wonder she’s so awesome ;)

  • McAtheist

    I prefer Shepherd’s Pie, as long as it is made with real shepherds

    • phantomreader42

      Do you wash that down with lemonade made from real lemons, and for dessert Girl Scout cookies made from real Girl Scouts?

  • Andrew Bowers

    People want to eat babies because eating babies reinvigorates the body and preserves youth. Duh.

    • B Sal Butler

      LOL…

  • Anna

    This is interesting. I love puppies and kittens, but I’ve never had any particular interest in human babies. I think they’re cute, although I can’t say I’ve ever felt the urge to touch one, let alone smell or kiss one. I find them much cuter once they’re toddlers, and I’m only really comfortable around children who are old enough to have a conversation with.

    Taken together, these data suggests that body odors from 2 day-old newborns elicit activation in reward-related cerebral areas in women, regardless of their maternal status.

    Just women in the study? I’m curious about men’s reactions. I’m also curious if the reactions of women who do not want children would be different from those of a default group of women who have never given birth.

  • http://religiouscomics.net/ Jeff P

    In the later Austin Powers movies, Fat Bastard wanted to eat Mini Me so you know three is something to this baby eating.

    • The Other Weirdo

      I thought I smelled cabbage.

  • ShoeUnited

    I have been assured by a
    very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy
    child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and
    wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no
    doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm

    It was sarcasm you sick fucking editor.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

    77 comments and not one mention of baby-back ribs? For shame!

    • Spuddie

      Put the baby in my belly!

    • C.L. Honeycutt

      How is babby farmed?

  • jejune

    babies make me want to vomit

    just sayin’

  • Jake David MacLennan

    All this time I thought it was the demonic forces!? Jeesh, demonic forces hardly explain anything these days.

  • brianmacker

    The reasoning the scientists used in this study was idiotic. One could equally have argued that the smell of babies gave the same reward signals as smokers get when smoking, or bikers get when biking. That would not translate into an explanation for why we want to smoke babies or ride babies down a scenic stretch of highway. They even admitted in the article that we don’t literally want to eat babies, so I’m not sure why they are stressing the brain activation nonsense. I’ve never had the urge to eat a baby, even my own, so I don’t know what they are talking about. The phrase “I want to eat you up” is not reserved for babies either. In fact, I’ve eaten way more girls than babies by a long shot.

  • doug105

    Headline link seems to be down just shows the photo. had to click comments.


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