You Know I Love Ambigrams…

For years, the logo at the top of this website has been an ambigram (reading the same if you rotate it 180 degrees). John Gonzo took notice and passed along this design he made:

I love how he worked a cross in there :)

If you’d like to buy the image on a t-shirt, you can do so in America or Europe.

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. You can read much more about him here.

  • WallofSleep
    • momtarkle

      After staring at the picture for a few minutes, I noticed that there is writing on your shirt. Nice!

      • momtarkle

        To my two (possibly more by now) down voters: Please tell me what you did not like in my post. Was it irrelevant? (Yes.) Not humorous? Misogynist? Lustful? (Oh, yeah!)

        I’m new to TFA and don’t want to offend anyone (except those poopyheaded theists).

        • anniekate76

          I don’t know if WallOfSleep is actually the person in the picture, or even female, but since your joke assumes they are, I will too with the critique. So by making that particular joke, what you’re doing is seeing a woman’s contribution of an interesting reversible design to this conversation about reversible designs, and ignoring that contribution to make an unsolicited and off topic comment about her body. It devalues her contribution to the conversation and reminds her that what’s really important about her are not the ideas she has about design but those distracting things under the words on her shirt. That’s not cool even if you happen to be a woman also. “There’s nothing innocuous about playing into the idea that the greatest contribution any woman has to offer is her body….” (http://www.shakesville.com/2009/03/feminism-101-on-language-and.html)

          • momtarkle

            Anniekate, you feel me! Sorta.

            My post was irrelevant to the topic. My post reflected my sense of humor (a curse to me). I don’t think that my words devaluated Wallofsleep’s contribution. “reminds her that what’s really important about her are not the ideas she
            has about design but those distracting things under the words on her shirt”? Doggydoo.

            To me, that was a pretty picture of a pretty human form. I tried to imply that by my comments. The humor/crudeness was gratituous.

            Noah fence intended.

            • anniekate76

              Of course you didn’t consciously intend to hurt or devalue anyone, but it doesn’t change the fact that your actions have that effect.

              Yes, the photo had an attractive lady in it. Yes, people who like seeing attractive ladies will notice. Nobody faults you for any emotional or physiological reaction the sight of a pretty lady provokes inside you. But the civilized thing to do, online or in life, is to not comment on anyone’s body, positive or negative, joking or serious, unless you’re in the sort of relationship with them where that is invited and welcome.

              Plus, you asked why you were being downvoted like “oh, I just want to understaaaaand” and now you and the other guys in this thread are playing the hapless victim to my angry feminist. So that’s just super-cute.

              As for your sense of humor, maybe try taking an improv class?

        • Tainda

          You will always offend someone here. It’s inevitable.

          Don’t ever say a woman is attractive, don’t call someone an idiot, don’t say someone is crazy and don’t use the word “the” and you’re safe!

          • momtarkle

            Thanks, Tainda. As of this post, I’m running 4 ups and 5 downs. Pretty good, huh? Isn’t this supposed to be a forum of balanced opinions?

        • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

          Don’t limit your participation according to the votes. It’s sometimes amazing what gets up- and down-voted.

          Welcome to the blog.

          • Tainda

            Yeah, I have my own personal down voter. I’m so honored!

            If you’re not pissing someone off, you’re doing it wrong.

            • C.L. Honeycutt

              Downvoted so you don’t feel lonely waiting for hir to show up.

              • Tainda

                C.L., you’re always there for me! <3

            • momtarkle

              Is there some way you can sign up for down voters? Hey, at least you’d be getting more votes! It’s all about the votes, right?

            • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

              I try not to down-vote someone without also expressing my objections, or at least seeing someone else make a similar point. That’s my goal, anyway, but sometimes a furious click is all I can manage.

            • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

              Ah, the down-votes come easily. The real challenge is to convince voters to withdraw their down-votes!

              • momtarkle

                O K, I’ll try that, but first I’m going to change their concepts of gods.

          • momtarkle

            Thanks, dude/dudette! I love the blog, ‘tho I’m spending way too much time here…..takes me away from my prayers. Will you tell me/us what m6wg4bxw means? No pressure.

            • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

              Dude, here. “m6wg4bxw” doesn’t mean anything. It’s a randomly generated alpha-numeric string. I needed an alias, and that seemed easier than trying to choose something meaningful, which probably wouldn’t have been available anyway.

      • Paula M Smolik

        men are pigs
        Hey, at least you notice the little ones too

        • momtarkle

          C’mon, Paula; actually, I’m fascinated by that human’s partially exposed navel. You meant little eyes? Little nostrils? What?

        • C.L. Honeycutt

          Speaking as a biological male… I sometimes notice my OWN boobs.

          • Tainda

            I stare at my own boobs sometimes too. Does that make me a misogynist too? Or would that be mYsogynist? har har

      • Matt D

        You know, when a guy ogles a womans most obvious differences, I recall the many times I had to fake being straight using the same tactics with my friends. Fond memories really, because it was fun to role play a bit, and it’s always easier act like a savage, than a civilized man.

        I’m not saying you’re gay, just amused that everyone was always convinced I was straight (besides my mannerisms) merely because I grunted like a pig when bade to do so.

        • momtarkle

          Two items: 1) I don’t think that those er, uh, “things” are a woman’s most obvious difference. 2) I don’t ACT like the pig; I AM the pig.

          Thanks for being straight about your gayness. On a less significant level, I’ll bet that many of us have had to fake our atheistness a lot of the time. I still do sometimes…….makes me feel a bit guilty.

          • Matt D

            “Thanks for being straight about your gayness.”

            Hah, nice pun. Anyways, welcome to the forums!

      • momtarkle

        I don’t know if anyone is still following this tired old story, but I have suggestions for anyone who does not want anyone (M/F) to notice their bodies, for whatever reason:

        - Do not use scents or makeup.

        - Let no one take pictures of you.

        - Put on a few pounds.

        - Stay out of sight.

        - If female, wear a burqa, if male, maybe sackcloth? Any suggestions here?

        Keep your mouth shut, lest anyone look your way.

        Hope this helps.

    • Obazervazi

      Is there a flipped version?

      • momtarkle

        From what I’ve observed, we’re all flipped versions.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

    I find the “Friendly Atheist” example to be rather difficult to read. This is coming from a long-time fan of metal music — a category filled with challenging band logos. But I guess it’s kind of the same thing. Once you know, you know.

    EDIT: If anyone cares, the answers are here. I got 13 out of 20.

    • WallofSleep

      Heh. I used to know some of the mother-fuckers (I say that with fondness) in the second example. I even have one of their CDs. A handful of years ago, Napalm Death covered one of their songs on their “Leaders Not Followers 2″ album.

      • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

        Hell yeah!

  • Brett S.

    I’ve been waiting for the “Friendly Atheist” ambigram to be on a t-shirt for many years now. I’ll keep waiting…

    • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

      Plenty of websites will allow you to design your own shirt. Are you concerned with copyright issues or where the money goes?

  • Phil

    Count me as clueless! In the years I’ve been reading this blog, I never noticed that – I just thought it was some difficult to read typeface.

  • Eric

    Sorry, but they’re both hard to read (the current and the “new” one). It breaks my personal rule of form over function when a form is such that it defeats the function (i.e., being legible in this case).

  • mac

    They’re both aweful. I never knew what that current mess was supposed to say. In fact, I’m still not sure.

  • Sam Mulvey

    How do I look at that logo for YEARS and not realize it’s an ambigram?

  • Marlon

    Hemant, you would like a book called Inversions by Scott Kim. http://www.amazon.com/Inversions-Scott-Kim/dp/1559532807
    I have bought it 3 or 4 times and keep giving it away or lending it and never seeing it again.

  • Paula M Smolik

    Ambigram? No wonder I couldn’t figure out what it said. Something atheist.

  • A3Kr0n

    I don’t think either spell anything whatever way you look at them, and I’ve looked a long time at various times.


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