Send Us Your Heathen Holiday Cards!

As you may recall, last holiday season, Friendly Atheist featured a series called Heathen Holiday Cards, and the response was outstanding!

We featured the secular holiday cards from viewers like you, whether they were funny, subversive, or sweet.

Like this one:

When we posted them, the one response we got from a few people was a request that we post them earlier in the year, in case any of you wanted to purchase them for your own (unsuspecting) family and friends.

So if you have an awesome card you want to share with the billions* of readers of this blog, please send them to me (Jessica!) at HeathenHolidayCards@gmail.com.

Please include the following in your email:

  • Whether you are selling your cards or just sharing (both are encouraged!)
  • If you are selling, where can we buy it?
  • If we post your card, what should we refer to you as? First and last name? First only? Cool nickname? Twitter handle?

I sincerely look forward to seeing all of your cards!

*rough estimate

About Jessica Bluemke

Jessica Bluemke grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and graduated from Ball State University in 2008 with a BA in Literature. She currently works as a writer and resides on the North side of Chicago.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw/ m6wg4bxw

    And so it begins. Bah humbug!

  • FTP_LTR

    Is it too late to get my cafepress and zazzle accounts up and running?… there goes my weekend…

  • Itarion

    No. No No No. Absolutely not. I don’t care what the stores say, I don’t care what the news says, I don’t care what you say. Christmas season ABSOLUTELY does not begin until after Thanksgiving. Christmas is invading my November, and dammit I LIKE November.

    [At the time of this edit, 21 upvotes within 14 hours. I didn't realize that this opinion was so commonly liked!]

    • FTP_LTR

      For some of us, Thanksgiving is a quaint foreign custom that you people over there celebrate. In our stores down here there’s barely enough time for Halloween to be elbowed out by Christmas, let alone trying to jam a turkey in the middle.

      • Itarion

        Please, forgive my blatant Americanism.

        • FTP_LTR

          That’s fine. I know that you colonial types don’t know any better.

          • Itarion

            Harsh, man. Too harsh.

            • FTP_LTR

              You started it. Tea in the harbour, and all that. I know it started with the best of intentions, but still…

              • Itarion

                We left, and were more than happy to leave well enough alone. It was those taxes your king and Parliament levied. Uncalled for.

                But yeah, destruction of property was a tad excessive.

                • FTP_LTR

                  Well, as long as things are working out for you over there. :-)

                • Itarion

                  They’re not. I’m sorry. But hey, I’m mostly German. 4th generation immigrant. I’d ask to come back, but I don’t trace to the Isles.

                • FTP_LTR

                  You know who else was mostly German?

                  George III.

                • Itarion

                  Noo…. You silly.

                  *fact check

                  Well. Hot damn. Politics are fucked, ain’t they?

              • islandbrewer

                You know, a lot of it had to do with George III. He was a little …er, what’s the euphemism? Batshit, yes.

                There’s a hypothesis that, had you people had someone a bit more “not bonkers” around that time, we’d still be part of the commonwealth. Ah well, water under the bridge.

                • Itarion

                  Last I checked, there wasn’t a bridge across the Atlantic.

                • islandbrewer

                  Good thing, too! See what happened to the chunnel? Just imagine if we tried something like that!

                • Itarion

                  No, what happened to the Chunnel?

                  If we managed something like that, it would be a massive engineering project that either fails spectacularly, or connects the world in a way previously nigh unimaginable. Possibly, it will do the latter until such a time as it does the former.

                • islandbrewer

                  French engineers started at one end, English engineers started at the other. When they met in the middle, they didn’t actually meet in the middle. Either one or the other was slightly off in measuring angles, depending on the nationality of whom you ask. After a while, they started wondering where the other engineering team was.

                  Hilarity ensued.

                • Raising_Rlyeh

                  To be fair the colonists were also at fault. For example Ben Franklin was pretty much kissing up to the king and wasn’t aware that people were so upset at the new taxes. Then of course there was the fact that the colonies had a lot of free reign since, you know, it’s hard to govern across the ocean. Of course some of the founding fathers also were smugglers and didn’t like the crown butting in on their business.

                • FTP_LTR

                  But royals, celebrities and rich people don’t go batshit they just get more eccentric.

                  I can’t help but wonder if the extreme eccentricity of George III had any bearing on the seeding of Australia with petty convicts instead of those loyalists who found themselves on the losing side of your war of independence.

                  Pure speculation of course – other than quickly comparing the dates of the war of independence, George III and the First Fleet reaching Australia, my research on the topic is nil :-)

      • Gehennah

        I think my biggest surprise was August when I saw my first Christmas decorations a few years ago, but it was a store that had just got the decorations in from a shipment, and hadn’t put them out just yet, that was for October.

    • Jacob

      Oh but she said “holiday”, not Christmas. *rolls eyes*

      • Merry Knight

        Hanukkah starts on Thanksgiving this year. So if you’re actually talking about holidays then you can start now.

      • Itarion

        Sure, but the example card says Christmas.

        • Jacob

          Yes, I was being sarcastic. People like to use “holiday” instead of “Christmas” to pretend they’re not referring to Christmas.

    • Kodie

      Hey. Some of us have severe time management problems.

    • allein

      The last 2 years, I’ve run a card exchange for a forum I belong to, and I have to start signups in September. :-/ Signups close at the end of October and the list gets emailed a week later…it just went out this past weekend and I’m going to ignore it until at least Black Friday. (Aside from the fact that I got my cards a few weeks ago when my work had an employees-only warehouse sale and I got 10 boxes of cards for a buck each (list price $16)..they’re sitting on my desk where they will remain unopened until after Thanksgiving.) Other people are posting in the card thread about how they’re already getting their cards ready to send. I fully expect to have at least one card in the mail by the end of next week. I want to smack them all…even the overseas cards don’t take 2 months (and only 3 of the 36 people participating are outside of North America). And this is a forum for customer service types and complaints about “Christmas creep” are common.

    • Raising_Rlyeh

      November? In what world is Christmas only going into November? Christmas in some places started back in August. I am getting annoyed because it is taking over my favorite month and holiday, halloween and october.

      • Itarion

        I say November because this is November in which I had to say this. I object to celebrations of Christmas beginning in any month except December.

        • Kodie

          I object to rigid objections as to when people should start to think about maybe shopping. Before I realize it, it’s fucking already here, and that’s too late for me to start thinking about it. I don’t love Christmas or like Christmas, but it’s a fact. I don’t like that the world and the decorations of the environment change absolutely and completely for a whole 1/12th of the year, but it’s a fact of life. Every week of December is filled with panic and deadlines for me. I would love love love the luxury of January. Is it January yet? I would not mind it at all if they started telling me I better start planning for January to get here, in August. Not one bit.

          Get in the Christmas spirit and think about what other people need. Early reminders to start shopping before it gets crazy and crowded and awful. I’m not even talking about just Christmas stuff, but making sure I have enough household supplies to avoid having to go to Target in December. Just one year, one time, I would love to be finished shopping before everyone else starts.

          And if I really had my wish, I wish people would be nicer all year, like it was about to be Christmas. Christmas could be great if it was all year and people didn’t have to shop on a deadline. 11 months of the year, people are assholes, and one month, they are forced to be of good cheer. What kind of system is this? This is what civilization came up with?

          • Itarion

            Umm… Ours?

            Look, I’m not concerned about when you want to start stockpiling the presents for the people you care about. My concern is with the advertising and holy crap, Christmas again everyone! Get your stuff when you want, but the celebrations and gross public displays of the Christmas SpiritTM can wait until December.

            • Kodie

              I can’t even believe it’s November already. Did you miss that I have terrifically awful time management skills and require the world to remind me that it’s time to get going or I’m going to be late? Ah, fuck, it doesn’t matter. I’m going to be late anyway. More than I dislike Christmas, I dislike people whining about how it’s starting earlier and earlier. It’s all arbitrary, setting aside seasons and days to express ourselves or eat certain kinds of cookies. I don’t see the point in being rigid about it.

              I’m not the kind of person who will send Christmas cards before Thanksgiving, but I’m the kind of person who appreciates the option of having them in the house so I could write them and send them not too long after, and having a lot to choose from before everyone else goes crazy and crowds the displays because they waited until the “appropriate” time.

              • FTP_LTR

                I buy Christmas cards on sale in January.

                They don’t go stale. They don’t take up much room. It’s not as if someone is going to invent a new kind of Christmas for the next year. They’re going to go in the bin after a month, tops.

                Having said that, I send them at the last minute because I’m still disorganised.

                • Kodie

                  That would be great if I could go back in time to last January.

                • FTP_LTR

                  LOL. As a plan for this Christmas, it sucks, yes.

                • Kodie

                  Every year, I think I’m going to be done shopping by Labor Day, like, see something someone will actually like and hold onto it. I don’t have too many people to shop for who I really care about. It would be nice to actually enjoy December. I don’t know how other people do it when they have kids and in-laws and more obligations than I do. I happened upon a really successful cookie recipe. I know a store that sells good unique cards. What I don’t have is the stamina to push myself to do things earlier and I never learn, and back myself into a corner. It’s super hard to get in the mood this time of year without reminders, and super hard to make myself do what I must do when it’s December.

                  My whole life is running late. This Christmas is about 2006? I must have just given up at least 7 times in my adult life and failed my relatives who are generous and forgiving.

              • Itarion

                Call them Annual Updates and sent them in January?

                The “appropriate” time is Black Friday, and I don’t even leave the house then. People DIE shopping on Black Friday. Yes, its November, barely.

                I could message you when the month changes… Would that be helpful?

                Basically, I just want to enjoy each holiday as it comes, and not have to deal with corporate advertising each holiday early.

                • Kodie

                  Annual updates? Hi, I’m still alive, sorry I dissed you at Christmas, but I can’t get my shit together on time like everyone else, and this continues to be a chronic problem. You are lucky to receive a notice at all! <3 Kodie

                  I get it that Christmas is worn out by the time it comes, but people do need time to accumulate stuff and not set themselves up for failure by waiting until the last week to start baking and addressing cards. Christmas is a stressful "deadline" kind of holiday. And it's not just one deadline, December 25th, but a series of deadlines. Get your cards sent early enough that people can enjoy them, but not too early they get hostile about your social impropriety. Buy a tree (I don't do this anymore, since I procrastinate taking it down, once until March, and another time, I had to buy a saw so I could put it in a bag and no one would know I was throwing out a Christmas tree so late), not too early that it's disgusting by Christmas and not too late that it's just not worth it. Look for presents, decide to try again some other day. Repeat. Wrap them, send them, and get them to the post office (before Christmas Eve? Are you kidding me), parties, you have to bring gifts, baking, making, it's just a whole different upsetting series of activities that has to be planned by shopping in advance. Plus I hate crowds, I hate stores that are too warm, I hate parking lots, and I hate knocking myself out to affect this performance.

                  I love my family and I really want to give them things they need or like or want. I don't want to give them things that are just there and nice enough, it's the thought that counts and all that. I would love the luxury of doing this at my pace and that once they wouldn't say "that's ok, we understand". It's rigid "Christmas" thinking that Christmas is ONE DAY. It's a whole month, and therefore takes another month to prepare. I hate that it's a whole month. But I am not mixed up. Thanksgiving is still on its way. I like Thanksgiving because no gifts. I used to host Thanksgiving a couple years, and I could not get all the food on the table at one time, but I did it. You get all the food in the house, and start preparing for it for 3 days max. Halloween is over, and we shouldn't pretend and stand on ceremony that Christmas isn't that boulder from Raiders of the Lost Ark rolling swiftly toward us. That’s 4 weeks of “let’s ignore it” because it annoys people.

                • Itarion

                  It was just an idea, and I never said it was a good one. I dunno really where I’m going with this or planning on going with this, but I guess it’s obvious, even from a third party distant perspective, how much you do care about the people around you. I guess I don’t ever think about Christmas from the point of view of someone trying to get everything together for whatever it is that they would like to have done. That just generally impresses me, that you try to do that, whether you manage to get everything together or not, that you TRY is impressive.

                • Kodie

                  TRY is a strong word. I would say it’s more like “want to try”.

                • Itarion

                  Eh. Wanting to try is still something. Rather than wanting to sit back and let your uncle deal with hosting the party, or what have you.

                • Itarion

                  And I’m sorry if my comments have rubbed you the wrong way, I sincerely didn’t mean to offend.

                • Kodie

                  I just have a love-hate relationship with Christmas. What I love about it, I wish could last all year long. What I hate about it can burn and die, but it’s not going away. One of the things I hate is, generally, people setting up times for this and times for that. It makes sense that if you’re going to have a pine tree in your living room for a period of time, I guess for it to be there in December. I mostly like my ornaments and not the tree so much – I decided last time was the last time. I shouldn’t feel bad (maybe I should???) but I went on a date with someone who had a fake tree up in his living room in, like, May. Why put stuff away if you’re going to take it out again before you know it, right? But it doesn’t make sense to be grouchy because someone still has twinkly pretty lights on their railing in February. Why does Christmas end and suddenly everyone is expected to embrace the bleak, gray winter like a proper normal person? Snow and snow-related decor, like snowmen are not “Christmas-related” but are winter-themed. Like pumpkins and dead leaves are fall-themed and not “Halloween” or “Thanksgiving” and fall ends abruptly and that’s sad! Christmas ends just as abruptly, and then what? It’s still winter, forever. (Or commercially, Valentine’s Day).

                  I’m not normal. I like things I like all the time. Like, eggnog. And bags of gumdrops that are all red and green. Is it against the law to eat them out of the bag or do you have to construct a gingerbread house to use this product? I don’t know why they waste resources making the other colors, ever. I heard Feliz Navidad on the radio in August 1998 and I’ve never forgotten it. Why the hell not? Joy is joy, it doesn’t need a season. I don’t like strict rules, and due to my “illness” I don’t like deadlines, and this season brings out the rules and deadlines.

                • Itarion

                  What I love about it, I wish could last all year long. What I hate about it can burn and die, but it’s not going away.

                  Oh, absolutely. I guess I’ve not been especially clear on what it is about it that I don’t like, and I feel the same way about the solar seasons, spring, summer, autumn, & winter: they’re not centered on the focus. The first day of spring is the spring solstice, and I’m like THAT”S THE MIDDLE OF SPRING! I feel the same about Christmas season, too: it shouldn’t end on Christmas, and if you don’t end on Christmas you don’t have to dick around in the other holidays.

                  I shouldn’t feel bad (maybe I should???) but I went on a date with someone who had a fake tree up in his living room in, like, May.

                  Actually, what my mom does with her fake tree – it’s more a needley green column than anything, it looks ridiculous – is decorates it for every holiday. Flags on the 4th, pumpkins and such at Halloween, a whole wide variety of stuff. So, it’s up year round but never out of season because it gets dressed up for each season. It irritates the crap out of my dad, but now that I think about it, the concept is kinda cool.

                  But it doesn’t make sense to be grouchy because someone still has twinkly pretty lights on their railing in February. Why does Christmas end and suddenly everyone is expected to embrace the bleak, gray winter like a proper normal person?

                  Especially since, in some places, midwinter was a turning point AWAY from the bleak grey winter. It’s half over, we’re through the worst kind of a thing.

                  Snow and snow-related decor, like snowmen are not “Christmas-related” but are winter-themed. Like pumpkins and dead leaves are fall-themed and not “Halloween” or “Thanksgiving” and fall ends abruptly and that’s sad! Christmas ends just as abruptly, and then what? It’s still winter, forever. (Or commercially, Valentine’s Day).

                  Again, yeah. Seasons should be centered on what they celebrate, more or less.

                  I’m not normal. I like things I like all the time. Like, eggnog. And bags of gumdrops that are all red and green

                  And that cranberry Sierra Mist. (Or Sprite, they’re close enough to not care which is which.)

                  I don’t like strict rules, and due to my “illness” I don’t like deadlines, and this season brings out the rules and deadlines.

                  Illness? Like, legitimate diagnosis, or just falling outside of “normal people”? Because normal people are boring, and tend to not have drawn out conversations with complete strangers on the internet because they’re busy with their boring normal life. I like long drawn out conversations with complete strangers on the internet. The anonymity makes me feel safe enough to say things that I wouldn’t say to someone who can see me.

                • Kodie

                  Yeah, I have some form of anxiety. I see someone for it, it doesn’t help. I was also raised with the idea that you have to do whatever you have to do so people don’t know you’re poor or sick or weird or anything. I don’t like disappointing people I love, and I don’t want pity. I love them but they don’t really understand. Another thing is “what people really think” vs. what they say to your face. I think most people don’t say bitchy things all the time when in private, I mean, I’ve gotten the idea that my family is really weird and we pretend we’re not. It all gets bottled up and saved for when we’re together alone.

                  If I don’t give presents, do people really understand or do they just say they do and secretly resent me? Do they pity me or really care why I am the way I am? And I feel guilty because I don’t keep in touch and make the first move, because I really don’t want to. I don’t want to be the one who puts on the mask and makes small talk to generate communication. The path of least resistance isn’t to check out, it’s to do this gift-giving thing and get it over with, you know, feel like they aren’t going to judge me. And they have to be thoughtfully chosen, because that’s my thing, my standard. My cash is not wasted on something just to put in a wrapper and get it out of my house. I want people to genuinely like their gifts.

                  Another thing about me is a relative defiance of things that don’t make sense. I don’t know why Christmas is such a big deal except that it is, and I don’t know if everyone else really likes it or it’s something they have to do because it’s such a big deal that they can’t ignore it. What’s ridiculous to me is dictating to other people how they should celebrate and people becoming self-conscious about following a social standard, like when to take down your lights. People get really judgmental about other people’s abilities to perform tasks and keep up another person’s seasonal expectations, and it just doesn’t matter. I was raised to care what other people think and hide my eccentricities, but the more and more I look at it, people are weird in the things they think are normal (like religion, for instance), and I’m going to question it for the most part.

                  Keeping order on the holidays seems to be one of that kind of business, and this conflicts with other people’s agendas and priorities. Thanksgiving is sucked into a hole because it is a low-key kind of holiday that people actually celebrate in proportion, and Halloween and Christmas are out of proportion. Halloween candy was out in my stores in July. You notice with all the Christmas stuff, New Year’s kind of gets the low-key treatment too – it is celebrated in proportion. It’s kind of an after-Christmas mint, except that Christmas is already way minty.

                  Big holidays take more advance planning – in order to start the first of December, you have to have a bunch of stuff ready before Thanksgiving. As far as I can tell, people who are successful like to think what’s coming down the road, beyond what they see directly ahead. I would love to be one of these “together” kinds of people. It would be nice to be relaxed and enjoy Christmas when it’s Christmas instead of hurrying up to get all the work done.

                • Itarion

                  I kinda feel like I want to give advice here, but I don’t know really what to give, or how you would take it if I tried, so… I’m just going to mostly leave it at that. Sympathetic feelings. I do know a couple of people with anxiety, and it is a real bastard.

                  I will say that people are often much more forgiving about the details, because as the cliche’ goes, it’s the thought that counts. I, personally, would forgo consumer goods as gifts, and give something handcrafted, because there’s nothing better than a unique item [I think, at least].

                  And I feel guilty because I don’t keep in touch and make the first move, because I really don’t want to. I don’t want to be the one who puts on the mask and makes small talk to generate communication.

                  This sounds as much like introversion in an extroverted society as anything. Talk to people, but only if it means something; otherwise, what’s the damn point?

                  I don’t know why Christmas is such a big deal except that it is, and I don’t know if everyone else really likes it or it’s something they have to do because it’s such a big deal that they can’t ignore it.

                  I feel this way about birthdays, and best as I can figure out, crap is celebrated because it used to mean something, but the longevity and ease of living in “the modern age” has rendered the meaning of yearly celebrations moot, because there was no real question of surviving to the new year. The parallel being birthdays: you survived, Christmas: we all survived.

                  I was raised to care what other people think and hide my eccentricities, but the more and more I look at it, people are weird in the things they think are normal (like religion, for instance), and I’m going to question it for the most part.

                  What’s the point of individuality, without eccentricities? Normal is boring, and anyone who says otherwise is boring. The best people are the people who live just on the edge of normal and insane. Grounded, when necessary, but fully capable of weirdness, odd habits, and irregularities, and I intentionally take slightly low doses of my ADHD meds to maintain that balance.

                  Big holidays take more advance planning – in order to start the first of December, you have to have a bunch of stuff ready before Thanksgiving… It would be nice to be relaxed and enjoy Christmas when it’s Christmas instead of hurrying up to get all the work done.

                  I think that there are some people who just have some holidays that they like. Is there anyone you know that has a large party multiple times a year? As best as I can tell, in every social circle, there are different people who take different holidays as “their domain”, and this just falls out naturally from the social dynamics. More to the point, the people who take each holiday are, through most of the whole year, more or less prepping for it at any free moment.

  • Tobias 27772

    How about, Jesus Fucking Christ, can’t we have a little Thanksgiving before we start all this Christmas bullshit ! ? ! ? !

    • cary_w

      Exactly! The older I get the more I despise all holidays. I can tolerate Thanksgiving if you ignore all the pilgrims and Indians crap and just see it as a harvest festival, and, as a patriotic American, I will gladly celebrate the Fourth of July, but the rest of them are just a mass of potentially hurt feelings, disappointments, unrealistic expectations and heartbreak. There’s nothing worse than seeing Thanksgiving squeezed out between the tantrum-inducing candy and costumes of Halloween and the “why does Santa hate me when I really was good all year” sadness of Christmas. Please let us enjoy just a little sanity in November before the Christmas nightmare starts!

      • Gehennah

        It twas two weeks before All Hallows Eve, as I perused the succulent candy isle of Halloween. What doth my eye spy on the other side of the top shelf sugary goodness, but Christmas Decorations.

        And that’s the end of my story at Wal-Greens a few weeks ago. I enjoy Christmas, mainly the lights and buying random stuff for my wife (although after 10 year’s we’ve yet to make it to a Christmas day with presents under the tree, because we always open them early). But God-damned don’t start Christmas weeks before Halloween.

        • allein

          I was browsing in my local B&N avoiding the zombie hordes on Halloween this year and they were pretty much done setting up the holiday tables. I’m friendly with one of the assistant store managers there and we were chatting about it. The only Halloween display I saw was a small clearance table of gift items.

      • Itarion

        I like the creepy/spooky/fright side of Halloween. We should bring that back up to the front, let everyone try to come to grips with their mortality every year.

    • Alierias

      We celebrate Yule, on the solstice; takes care of the whole shebang

    • Itarion

      Hear Hear!

  • Randay

    “Heathen, n. A benighted creature who has the folly to worship something that he can see and feel.” — Ambrose Bierce.

    • Ashley Flinn

      HAH! I’d forgotten that one! I need to make a print of that. Thanks for reminding me :)

  • Dal Bryn

    Now that I’m older, I love gifts like socks.

    • allein

      Last year I asked for a new pillow.

      • katiehippie

        I want an electric skillet.

        • allein

          I was thinking crockpot this year…

        • C.L. Honeycutt

          I wanna hippopotamus for Christmas.

  • SansDeus

    Have a Biblical* Christmas!

    *Only if you condone/believe the following:
    • Genocide
    • Infanticide
    • Slavery
    • Misogyny
    • Bigotry
    • Polygamy
    • Talking Donkeys, serpents and burning bushes
    • Torture
    • Turning people in to salt for looking at something
    • Rape
    • Animal abuse
    • Banning Shellfish
    • Banning Tattoos
    • Inconsistency in stories
    • Fitting over 5 million known species in 1.1 million +/- cubic feet of space
    • Unicorns
    • Mixing fabrics
    • Telepathy to Jewish zombies
    • Walking on water
    • Demonic possession
    • Moon as a source of light
    • Killing because of jealousy
    • Sacrificing your children
    • Long hair as a source of strength
    • Being swallowed by a fish and surviving
    • Stopping the earths rotation for three days

    • Itarion

      There is no Biblical Christmas. The Bible forbids celebrating pagan holidays.

      • SansDeus

        That would be pretty much all holidays then.. ;)

        Though I was being facetious with some wordplay as to mean biblical in the sense of epic or numerous, then again in a literal sense with the actions condoned or ordered by god/jesus or which are fallacious according to gained knowledge (but like they say if I have to explain it, it must not be funny.. d’oh).

        None of them are too specific about holidays, unless you’re worshiping pagan gods or if they do something to disobey the will of god (but he’s so bipolar, he might like something one minute then BAM not like it in another minute), so you might be referring to Jeremiah 10/Deuteronomy 12:30-31/Deuteronomy 18:9/Ezekiel 20:31-32 or to avoid meat offered to pagan idols such as in Acts 15:29 unless of course you then take 1 Corinthians 10:25-26 into account that says whatever is sold is ok to eat. But if it’s being done to honor your mother and father it’s ok according to Exodus 20:3… But to add to the confusion here is a list of 45 passages with some reference to pagan holidays and some say it’s ok, while others tell you to refrain. http://www.openbible.info/topics/celebrating_pagan_holidays

        Cheers.

        • Itarion

          Or I could just say “Screw it!”, toss out the whole mess, and do what society and I agree upon good and right, or at least unharmful. Like if I wanna throw a Winter Solstice party, that’s all well and good until someone gets sacrificed to bring back spring.

        • Kodie

          Though I was being facetious with some wordplay as to mean biblical in
          the sense of epic or numerous, then again in a literal sense with the
          actions condoned or ordered by god/jesus or which are fallacious
          according to gained knowledge (but like they say if I have to explain
          it, it must not be funny.. d’oh).

          You forgot biblical in the sense, “sexually intimate.”

          • Itarion

            I don’t think I’d mind having that sort of Christmas. With the right person, at least.

  • holynight

    Where I live now (Japan, where Christianity is practically the state religion), Halloween and Christmas decorations in the shops actually overlap for a week or two.
    And where I am from (Germany), there is a huge, even huge for US standards, Christmas goods shop open all year round. Great experience, highly recommended: Käthe Wohlfahrt in Rothenburg.


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