In Shreveport, City Council Member Wants to Repeal Anti-Discrimination Ordinance Because Jesus

Earlier this week, the Shreveport City Council (Louisiana) passed something called the “Be Fair Shreveport” Ordinance, protecting those who are LGBT from workplace discrimination. Sounds like a very logical thing to do, right? As usual, churches and religious non-profit groups were given special exemptions from the new law so they could continue being bigots within their own walls. The Ordinance passed 6-1. Everyone wins! Right?!

Almost. The one holdout vote came from council member Ron Webb.

You know where this is going: He’s going to say he loves gay people but this Ordinance somehow takes away someone’s religious rights, blah blah blah.

Oh, we went much further than that:

I’ve worked with homosexuals before, and you know I don’t socialize with ‘em. I don’t think that you know that we should. The Bible tells us that we shouldn’t. The Bible even tells you that homosexuals is abomination and that they will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven. And when judgment day comes around, you know that’ll be between them and the good Lord. And it’s not for us to judge. But I agree that when you were born, we’re all born in the image of God, but I believe that we do have the choice to decide what we’re going to do.

He doesn’t “socialize with homosexuals”? Why not? What’s going to happen if they get close to him? Will the gay genes magically transport over to him? I don’t know why he’d be worried about that since he believes everyone chooses to be gay, anyway…

As for the Bible… who cares? This is the local government, not his church. No legislation should be passed or voted down solely based on what a religious book says.

So what’s the non-religious reason for Webb to criticize the law?

I don’t think we should get involved in a private entity. If we wind up having someone go to the HRC, Human Relations Commission that’s wanting to be formed and file a complaint, then we’re going to go after that company and we’re going to sit down and we’re going to do whatever, and we’re going to even fining companies. And we don’t know what’s inside their minds. And you’re going to have people say I was fired for certain reasons all the time. And that doesn’t mean that that was the reason that they were fired, but just because they’re a homosexual or gay or whatever, they can say that and then that means that’s what it was. And I’m against that.

In other words, if gay people get fired, they’re always going to say they were fired for being gay. Even though our court system says you have to have proof to move forward with those claims, and even though there are non-discrimination clauses in place for things like race and gender and Webb has no problem with any of those laws.

Webb called for a repeal of the anti-discrimination ordinance at a special work meeting on Friday, but once he realized he was completely outnumbered, even he tried to table the discussion. To their credit, the other council members elected to call for a vote on Webb’s measure during their January 14 meeting, presumably so they can vote it down for good at that time.

Maybe between now and then, Webb can try socializing with some homosexuals and learn what they’re up against when they have to deal with employers who share his mentality.

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  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    He doesn’t socialize with homosexuals? What makes him think any gay people would want to be in the same room with HIM?

  • invivoMark

    Hundred bucks says he does socialize with gays, and he just doesn’t know that they’re gay.

    Twenty bucks says that he’s gay himself.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Noooooooooooooooo. We do not want him. (I doubt straight women much want him either, but that’s not my problem.) Nooooooooooooooooooo.

  • http://rolltodisbelieve.wordpress.com/ Captain Cassidy

    You’re a lucky duck all right. I can assure you this straight woman wants nothing to do with him either. I’m a feminist, so he probably thinks I’m ickie too, so there’s that good at least.

  • Whitney Currie

    Sucker bet, not gonna take it.

  • Itarion

    Ego makes him think any gay people would want to be in the same room with him.

  • MNb

    Or as far as I’m concerned, to be in the kingdom of Heaven with him? That prospect has become a bit more unattractive again. Fortunately I don’t believe in it.

  • John Barleycorn

    To be fair, he just said he doesn’t SOCIALIZE with homosexuals. And I’m sure he’s right. It’s purely a cash transaction, and pays more to keep it quiet. Probably has himself one of those “Rent-A-Boys” or whatever they call them.

  • DanV

    He hates homos. He pays them to leave after sex. This system is called prostitution.

  • tinker

    Born in the image of an asexual God? I really don’t get this part. This part sounds like ALL women are not able to get into heaven because they are not like God whether they are straight or lesbian. But the Xtians seems to insist that men must be attracted to the fairer sex to get into heaven…

    Sorry, complete logical disconnect. I can’t seem to wrap my brain around this further.

  • Machintelligence

    If only MAN is made in the image of God (and woman is not) we should be able to get the true image of God by subtracting those things that man and woman have in common. This is not a particularly flattering image of God.

  • ZenDruid

    I have this gut feeling that god is a rogue testicle.

  • http://rolltodisbelieve.wordpress.com/ Captain Cassidy

    You say that like some of ’em aren’t.

  • DanV

    Gods or testicles?

  • DanV

    The crux of the biscuit is the penis. Without one, you are nothing, according to the Bible, a collection of stories written thousands of years ago by goat herders.

  • John Barleycorn

    I’ve never understood this “man made in god’s image bit” because it makes me wonder why god, who was presumably floating around in darkness before he created everything, would resemble man in any way. Why does He have eyes, if there isn’t any light? Why have feet and legs when there isn’t any earth to walk upon? Why have lungs to breath air that doesn’t exist? Or hands to hold objects?

    I kind of imagine him looking like one of those creatures in the film version of Dune, the ones that can fold space and have mouths like vaginas.

  • WallofSleep

    “He doesn’t “socialize with homosexuals”? Why not?”

    Because that would be seen by his kind as breaking bread with the agents of Lucifer. That, and he could run the risk of having some of his precious gay stereotypes shattered.

  • WallofSleep

    I suppose one could use the same logic to say that the ADA should be repealed.

    “And you’re going to have people say I was fired for certain
    reasons all the time. And that doesn’t mean that that was the reason
    that they were fired, but just because they’re a paraplegic or deaf or
    whatever, they can say that and then that means that’s what it was.”

  • Amor DeCosmos

    “And when judgment day comes around, you know that’ll be between them and the good Lord.”

    So why not be nice to teh gays here and now, and when you die, you can laugh smugly at them from Heaven as they burn in the eternal flames of Hell for the sin of loving someone of the same sex?

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    The Bible, the guy goes to hell and says “Why didn’t you tell me this would happen?” and Jesus says “But I did.” Its implied you have an obligation as a Christian to warn everyone of what awaits.

    Trust me, having lived in that part of the country most people there only do things because the federal government says they have to. They really don’t want to and most of the holdouts given the legal right to discriminate (in all cases) would do so with as much fervor as a century ago. Thats why everyone citing all these polls about how the majority of the country everywhere has changed is full of it, I’ve heard too many people talking amongst the “trusted” about how they are going to take things back one way or another but know better than to speak it openly in the youtube/blog age. You’ll find people who probably would start lynching people again if the environment permitted it.

  • DanV

    Exactly: Imagine if the white residents of Alabama voted today as to whether blacks should be allowed to vote.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    I’ve never been to Alabama so I can’t comment on that. I guarantee you most white Texans over 25 if it was a secret ballot would though.

  • DanV

    I lived in Alabama a few summers. What a bastion of ignorance it is! Not that they have more Christly Ghosters
    than other states, but there is nothing else.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    I just don’t make blanket characterizations of places I’ve never been. I imagine its bad but I don’t stereotype.

    Honestly I didn’t mind Louisiana that much, it would be a horrible place to live but it was nowhere near as forceful as Texas where there is virtually NO alternative personality type at all outside of Austin and a few drug parties here and there.

    The midwest isn’t necessarily a lot better though, I’ve met some real racists in Ohio and particularly crazy people not too many miles from Ann Arbor of all places. The only difference is such people are too busy hating Arabs (not realizing one third of the population there is from Lebanon and thus Christian) and think black people are phenomenon solely in Detroit and St. Louis.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    Just another Louisianan saying what they believe down there and not being afraid of ‘no federal government telling me what to do.”

    Although to be fair you shouldn’t force religious institutions to let gay people in when their doctrine is opposed to it, unless you want a Sepoy rebellion. You also should cut tax funding for Faith Based Initiatives that won’t hire gays and also remove the tax exempt status of religious institutions.

  • TeslaRanger

    “He doesn’t ‘socialize with homosexuals’? Why not?”

    Because all he can think about is how much they are wanting to molest him. (They’re not, but that’s what he thinks is on their minds.) And then he’s not thinking about the most important man in his life, Jesus Christ. You know: the guy with the big … set of abs.

  • SluttyMary

    Bow down before christ and accept him into you…. all of him into you.

  • John Barleycorn

    Oh yeah, you like that, dontcha, buddy. Yeah you do. Tell me how much you love Jesus, piggy. Oh yeah, that’s it. Squeal. Say, “I love me my Jesus. I love me my Jesus.” Yeah. That’s it buddy. Tell me how much you like my rod and staff.

  • SluttyMary

    The power of christ compels me!

  • DanV

    He doesn’t socialize with gays, because he is terrified he will meet Mr. Right.

  • invivoMark

    He’s mistaken. That grammar is an abomination.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    Don’t ever go south of the Mason-Dixon line. You’ll shoot yourself in the head.

  • Oranje

    Or south of the analogous IHOP-Waffle House line.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    ????

    I’ve eaten at Waffle House in Arkadelphia and Natchitoches and several IHOPs in the same city. No such line exists.

    I just meant if the grammar bothered invivoMark then he shouldn’t go down that way, this guy’s grammar was a lot better than what you hear on the street. Even educated people slip up just because you hear it so often.

  • benanov

    It’s a reference from The Onion…

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    Stopped reading that years ago. It was too honest compared to the rest of the media.

  • God’s Starship

    “It’s not for us to judge”
    Then stop judging, asshole.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com Holytape

    He meant to say, :It’s not for us to judge, it’s up to me and me alone to judge.”

  • trj

    It’s not for us to judge, that’s up to God. But Ron Webb knows he and God agree 100%, so he might as well pass along God’s judgement.

  • wright1

    Newsflash, Mr. Webb: you socialize with homosexuals on a constant basis. You just haven’t realized it because they haven’t decided to announce their sexual preference to you. Frankly, I hope that idea keeps you tossing and turning all night.

  • Matt Potter

    I thought this quote was more than appropriate considering Mr. Webb apparently sees no problem with making public policy from his ‘good’ book.

    “If you are, if you are praying to the Monkey God Hanuman, you are
    doomed, ok. You’ll be tortured in Hell for eternity. Now, is there the
    slightest evidence for this? No. It just says so in Mark 9, and Matthew
    13, and Revelation 14. Ok, perhaps you’ll remember from The Lord of the
    Rings, it says when the elves die, they go to Valanor, but they can be
    reborn in Middle Earth. I say that just as a point of comparison.”

    Sam Harris, in a debate with WLC at the University of Notre Dame.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    Its a simple matter of authorship. We know Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings, Hubbard wrote Dianetics, and if you’re not emotionally involved its pretty easy to see Joseph Smith was pulling a con with the Book of Nephi. Most people don’t have the slightest clue about the various translations of the Bible over centuries or the fact that the Vulgate was solely in (mistranslated) Latin because only educated Europeans could pull a fast one and maintain feudalism on peasants for centuries. But given the occluded nature of the origins of the Bible today where everyone can get a mass market paperback one for ten bucks, give up reading somewhere around Leviticus at best because it gets more tedious than a tweet, and its just better to take for granted what the minister is saying because a few billion people can’t be wrong. Argumentum ad populum logical fallacy.

    I like Sam Harris, probably more so than the rest of the New Atheists but I think thats a weak argument. He did a better job in the End of Faith when describing Ponzi schemes to demonstrate how people can suffer hallucination in mass waiting for a nonexistent payoff just because a few people seem to get a good deal, which is all Pascal’s wager amounts to. Try that one instead of trying to convince someone who doesn’t take Tolkien literally that their book is just as irrelevant. Crazy people see Jesus in grilled cheese sandwiches or minor coincidences but never blame him for conjoined twins or Down’s Syndrome and things showing DNA is OBVIOUSLY a fricking lottery that writes like a self replicating virus, not some design in the rainbow like a watch on a beach.

  • Guest

    I picked up the Sarah Palin book from the bestseller rack in a Hastings here in Texas. I could not get past the first sentence.

  • SeekerLancer

    It’s amazing how many people never outgrew the fear of cooties.

  • https://twitter.com/scb0212 scb0212

    Amusingly, this is the same region as Duck Dynasty (North Louisiana is more similar to Arkansas than Acadiana & New Orleans areas).

  • Andy

    What about protection against discrimination for werewolves and vampires?!

    (True Blood anyone? Part of it takes place in Shreveport :p )

  • SluttyMary

    Equality for Vampers NOW!

  • Sam B

    The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

  • Dave

    Haha, waiting for the Ron Webb sex tape?

  • Itarion

    Guy like that? Please no. I like my eyes the way they are, and the bleach needed afterwards would hurt to much.

  • Malcolm McLean

    We had a recent case in Britain. A company call Robertson’s used to make jam with a golliwog character to promote it. In the 1980s the golliwog was dropped because of criticism that it was racist. The jam came up in conversation in a restaurant kitchen. The chef, who had his back to a black employee, used the word “golliwog”. The employee sued for harassment, and won.

    That’s the sort of thing that happens when you allow anti-discrimination legisalation to go too far. Sensitivities are ratcheted up to hair trigger levels, and the legal system cannot be trusted to apply robust commonsense. Exactly the same thing will happen with LGBT equality.

  • Ed Adams

    is this case you’re referring to? if it is, you’re totally lying about it. here it was not an isolated event; but a chronic pattern of racist comments that were tolerated by the owner. if it’s a different case, can you provide the link?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10221339/Black-worker-awarded-27000-after-hearing-colleague-referred-to-as-golliwog.html

  • Pattrsn

    Even worse, when this kind of legislation passes, all kinds of whiny idiots start spouting crazy bullshit all over the Internet about how bigots are really misunderstood and abused by the people the legislation is meant to protect.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com Holytape

    Dear Mr. Webb,

    You are correct that the bible condemns homosexuality. And as Godly people, we ought to listen to the loving words of God, and stone those, some would say innocent, deviants. But as Godly people, are we to enforce some of the bible, and not other parts? I say not. Every drop of ink, is but the spit of God himself. So let’s not forget Deuteronomy 13:13-19:

    “Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.”

    Now with in the city limits of your Godless city, I can find a Islamic center, a synagogue, a Mormon temple and a catholic church. And I bet you if we look closely we can find a buddhist or a hindu or two. And we must follow the word of God. So when is a good time for us to come and destroy everyone include you?

  • DanV

    When homosexuals are socializing, he is watching Duck Dynasty.

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    It doesn’t count if its in his backyard.

  • DanV

    Actually, his TV is not only in his back yard; it sits atop a larger one that does not work.

  • http://friendlyatheist.com Richard Wade

    Mr. Webb, since you think that private businesses should be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people, please turn to your fellow City Council member who is sitting on your immediate right, Rose Wilson-McColloch, an African-American, and explain to her why she should continue to be protected by anti-discrimination laws, but LGBT people should not. …Unless you think that she should not be protected either…?

  • the moother

    Holy Mary mother of dog… This guy is about as articulate as a lamppost… With the IQ to match.

  • DanV

    I do not think you are being fair to IQ testing. There is a lower limit.

  • B Dallmann

    I thinks Ron Webb aren’t know words.

  • SluttyMary

    Because who is have more of?

  • DanV

    Eye aren’t no nun either.

  • Kenneth Thomas Kennedy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

    Here are some other holiness rules that are in Leviticus:
    • Hares are unclean since they chew the cud. 11:6
    • Four-legged birds are an abomination to God. 11:20
    • Baby girls are twice as dirty as baby boys. 12:1-8
    • Menstruating women are unclean to God. 15:19-30
    • Don’t mix seeds when sowing a field or wear a garment with mixed fibres. 19:19
    • If you have sex with a slave woman, you must then scourge her. 19:20
    • Children who curse their parents, adulterers, and homosexuals must be killed. 20:9-12
    • Woman with “familiar spirits” must be stoned to death. 20:27
    • The unchaste daughters of priests must be burnt to death. 21:9
    • Handicapped people must not approach the altar. 21:16-23
    • God’s instructions for buying slaves. 25:45-46
    • “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.” 26:29

  • midnight rambler

    The last one is not a rule, but part of a long warning about what will happen if you turn away from God. None of which has happened to us, of course, giving yet another piece of evidence for the non-existence of Yahweh. The full section is:
    Lev 26:27 And if in spite of this you will not hearken to me, but walk contrary to me,
    Lev 26:28 then I will walk contrary to you in fury, and chastise you myself sevenfold for your sins.
    Lev 26:29 You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
    Lev 26:30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your incense altars, and cast your dead bodies upon the dead bodies of your idols; and my soul will abhor you.
    Lev 26:31 And I will lay your cities waste, and will make your sanctuaries desolate, and I will not smell your pleasing odors.
    Lev 26:32 And I will devastate the land, so that your enemies who settle in it shall be astonished at it.
    Lev 26:33 And I will scatter you among the nations, and I will unsheathe the sword after you; and your land shall be a desolation, and your cities shall be a waste.
    Lev 26:34 “Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate, while you are in your enemies’ land; then the land shall rest, and enjoy its sabbaths.
    Lev 26:35 As long as it lies desolate it shall have rest, the rest which it had not in your sabbaths when you dwelt upon it.
    Lev 26:36 And as for those of you that are left, I will send faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; the sound of a driven leaf shall put them to flight, and they shall flee as one flees from the sword, and they shall fall when none pursues.
    Lev 26:37 They shall stumble over one another, as if to escape a sword, though none pursues; and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies.
    Lev 26:38 And you shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.
    Lev 26:39 And those of you that are left shall pine away in your enemies’ lands because of their iniquity; and also because of the iniquities of their fathers they shall pine away like them.

  • DanV

    I see one mistake you made: Girls are more than four times as dirty as boys. The mother must clean herself and stay away from decent people for a week when having a boy, and for a month for having a girl. After all, we know she is a nasty woman, because that is how one gets pregnant.

  • LesterBallard

    Wait, his name isn’t Robertson?

  • Robster

    The council member stated: ” I don’t socialize with ‘em”. That’s because gays want nothing to do with him. The bigotry could infect others. The man’s a loser.

  • TCC

    He doesn’t “socialize with homosexuals”? Why not? What’s going to happen if they get close to him? Will the gay genes magically transport over to him?

    Gives a new meaning to the phrase “horizontal gene transfer.”

  • Ella Warnock

    I socialize with many homosexuals, so clearly I have teh gay cooties. I’m not gay, though, so I must just be a carrier.

  • AxeGrrl

    I don’t hope for any harm to come to anyone, but I have to admit, when I read stories like this, I hear “the remaining anti-gay bigots will die off eventually” in my head.
    The same way many felt about people like Gov. George Wallace.

  • CATMAN

    Somebody ought to tell the good councilman that cutting your grass on a Saturday is also an abomination before the Lord and punishable by death

  • Jacobi Coriolanus

    He’d get around that by saying Jesus’s unclean body was prepared for the cave after sundown on Friday and the word in the flesh healed people during the Sabbath.

    Make his head explode by telling him that according to his lord and savior that anyone who has a divorce for any reason other than catching his wife in adultery is going to hell and the community marriage laws of this nation in states based on Spanish precedent and Napoleonic code (like Louisiana) are ungodly based on the New Testament. Or if his local church holds a bakesale they are turning the worship place of the Lord into a den of robbers.

  • The Starship Maxima

    I will never understand the opposition to equal employment laws.

  • 92JazzQueen .

    Lawsuits and some of the case of people abusing their laws to get back at people. That are just on the top of my head.

  • TravelingTxn

    Im living in Shreveport right now, and I can pretty much guarantee he also objects to non-discrimination measures based on race and gender. His opinion on not associating with gays is pretty common around here too. I cant wait to move…