Political disclaimer

Well, Ed Muskie cried in New Hampshire, which finished his campaign; Hillary Clinton cried in New Hampshire, which saved her campaign. This means we can expect more “passion” in the primaries ahead, God help us.

OK, you can probably tell what I think of Mrs. Clinton, as well as some of the other candidates. But, despite our indulgence in political punditry, the Cranach blog is not endorsing any of them. I mean, mobilizing the vast Cranach army with our precinct-by-precinct organization, could turn the election, and that would not be fair to the other candidates. But a presidential election raises so many issues about the intersections of culture, Christianity, and vocation that it is perfect fodder for this blog.

So we’ll look at many facets of these candidates and the issues they raise, for better or worse. And I’ll need your help as we all make up our minds.

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • fw

    bottom line:

    I think the united states is blessed. I live in Brasil. To hear passionate arguments about principle and issues framed as they are… wow. I am proud to be an american.

    I hope the politics of win-at-all-costs, us vs them that in fairness both rove and the clintons fostered will not rear it´s head this go around.

    I could live with ever candidate presented. even the minor ones. wow. (except for Romney that is..he is scary…).

  • fw

    bottom line:

    I think the united states is blessed. I live in Brasil. To hear passionate arguments about principle and issues framed as they are… wow. I am proud to be an american.

    I hope the politics of win-at-all-costs, us vs them that in fairness both rove and the clintons fostered will not rear it´s head this go around.

    I could live with ever candidate presented. even the minor ones. wow. (except for Romney that is..he is scary…).

  • http://www.alreadyandnotyet.blogspot.com Los

    Before I was a Christian I was not the slightest bit interested in politics, then when I became one I swung to the other pole. I became a “ultra-conservative right wing Republican” for about 3 months. I like to think I have landed in the middle where I am up to date and active in politics but at the same time understanding that God places Kings and presidents in office.

    While I am not a fan of Clinton, not so much for any liberal stances she takes, but because I think she is just like George W. and will be very much a “either you are for us or against us” type president which we do not need. I will not think that America is doomed if she wins, of if Huckabee wins which I would be stoked on he is not the savior, there is only One of them and He reigns forever!!

  • http://www.alreadyandnotyet.blogspot.com Los

    Before I was a Christian I was not the slightest bit interested in politics, then when I became one I swung to the other pole. I became a “ultra-conservative right wing Republican” for about 3 months. I like to think I have landed in the middle where I am up to date and active in politics but at the same time understanding that God places Kings and presidents in office.

    While I am not a fan of Clinton, not so much for any liberal stances she takes, but because I think she is just like George W. and will be very much a “either you are for us or against us” type president which we do not need. I will not think that America is doomed if she wins, of if Huckabee wins which I would be stoked on he is not the savior, there is only One of them and He reigns forever!!

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    Glad you’re not trying to mobilize us, dear host, as it would be like herding cats, and you’d quickly go insane. I wouldn’t wish that on you by any means! :^)

    FW, what is so scary about Romney, apart from the fact that he thinks that eternal pregnancy is an acceptable version of Heaven for his wife, and the other Mormon stuff? He’s hardly different from the others in his platform, otherwise.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    Glad you’re not trying to mobilize us, dear host, as it would be like herding cats, and you’d quickly go insane. I wouldn’t wish that on you by any means! :^)

    FW, what is so scary about Romney, apart from the fact that he thinks that eternal pregnancy is an acceptable version of Heaven for his wife, and the other Mormon stuff? He’s hardly different from the others in his platform, otherwise.

  • fw

    #3 Bike Bubba

    I lived in Utah for over a year. I attended BYU in fact for a quick time. I almost married a mormon girl. I am intimately familiar with how the Mormon church teaches their men to be missionaries and being an missionary for 2 years is ordinarily required of every male.

    They teach these men to deliberately lie. Missionaries will look you in the eye and say that they do NOT teach that the whole central point of being a mormon is to eventually become exactly like God the Father and create and populate your own planet and become a God. To become a God and your wives Goddesses.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3518122935543352086

    You will look long and hard at the mormon official website and not find ANY of this there. Yet this IS the central purpose of the Mormon faith. On the contrary, they use words to sound like just another protestant sect. This is wildly dishonest at best.

    Romney was the mormon equivalent of a pastor for years and headed up the mormon mission in France for a while. He is at least as much a pastor as Huckabee.

    Also as a christian, I saw that the Mormons used the popularity of the Osmonds to gain many young converts to their faith. Consider a mormon president in this light. How they would become instantly mainstream and respectable. Isn´t this one of the main arguements against legalizing gay marriage? It would make homosexuality mainstream respectable, put it on an equal footing and therefore perhaps influence youth to accept an error? (keep in mind that I am gay as I make this argument….).

    If lying were an actual requirement of my faith how could you vote for me?

  • fw

    #3 Bike Bubba

    I lived in Utah for over a year. I attended BYU in fact for a quick time. I almost married a mormon girl. I am intimately familiar with how the Mormon church teaches their men to be missionaries and being an missionary for 2 years is ordinarily required of every male.

    They teach these men to deliberately lie. Missionaries will look you in the eye and say that they do NOT teach that the whole central point of being a mormon is to eventually become exactly like God the Father and create and populate your own planet and become a God. To become a God and your wives Goddesses.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3518122935543352086

    You will look long and hard at the mormon official website and not find ANY of this there. Yet this IS the central purpose of the Mormon faith. On the contrary, they use words to sound like just another protestant sect. This is wildly dishonest at best.

    Romney was the mormon equivalent of a pastor for years and headed up the mormon mission in France for a while. He is at least as much a pastor as Huckabee.

    Also as a christian, I saw that the Mormons used the popularity of the Osmonds to gain many young converts to their faith. Consider a mormon president in this light. How they would become instantly mainstream and respectable. Isn´t this one of the main arguements against legalizing gay marriage? It would make homosexuality mainstream respectable, put it on an equal footing and therefore perhaps influence youth to accept an error? (keep in mind that I am gay as I make this argument….).

    If lying were an actual requirement of my faith how could you vote for me?

  • kerner

    Bike Bubba:

    Meow?

  • kerner

    Bike Bubba:

    Meow?

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    FW: thanks.

    Kerner: Meow. Meow mew meow.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    FW: thanks.

    Kerner: Meow. Meow mew meow.

  • http://gpiper.org/katiesbeer Theresa K.

    I’m glad you put “passion” in quotations. I have another word for it that I won’t repeat here. What Mrs. Clinton is calling “her voice” seemed to me to be just another form of the old “take a poll and act accordingly” practice of the Clinton administration. I do think she was sincere in her answers, but I think she is being sincere in a very calculated way.

  • http://gpiper.org/katiesbeer Theresa K.

    I’m glad you put “passion” in quotations. I have another word for it that I won’t repeat here. What Mrs. Clinton is calling “her voice” seemed to me to be just another form of the old “take a poll and act accordingly” practice of the Clinton administration. I do think she was sincere in her answers, but I think she is being sincere in a very calculated way.

  • fw

    #7 the “voice” she seems to have found is actually Obama´s.

    Should we not, out of respect for her office, be referring to Mrs clinton as SENATOR Clinton?

  • fw

    #7 the “voice” she seems to have found is actually Obama´s.

    Should we not, out of respect for her office, be referring to Mrs clinton as SENATOR Clinton?

  • http://gpiper.org/katiesbeer Theresa K.

    Very well then. Senator Clinton.

  • http://gpiper.org/katiesbeer Theresa K.

    Very well then. Senator Clinton.

  • Pinon Coffee

    Public leaders shouldn’t cry in public.

  • Pinon Coffee

    Public leaders shouldn’t cry in public.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Public leaders shouldn’t display emotion in public? What? Why not?

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Public leaders shouldn’t display emotion in public? What? Why not?

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