Lutheran Inreach & Outreach

Those of you who are Lutherans or who are considering Lutheranism or who are fellow travelers might want to sign up for  The Wittenberg Trail, an online community of some 800 Lutherans from around the world who meet together online to theologize and socialize. And get a load of this “commercial” the group put together for YouTube:

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • B.Wink

    Love the commercial. I recently joined an LCMS congregation here in Utah. I was raised in the Roman Catholic faith, strayed, and had been attending a non-denominational church prior to my introduction to the Lutheran confession of faith. While attending the non-denom church, I kept wondering how anyone could “accept” Christ into their lives with a heart that is sin-filled and depraved. I would leave the services confused and admittedly irritated. But I couldn’t quite put my finger on “why” I was feeling that way. And to me it felt more like a big party, rather than a church service. Then I discovered Lutheranism and a great Pastor who answered all of my questions and who let me borrow his copy of Dr. Veith’s, “The Spirituality of the Cross”. I found that my irritation was founded in the blending of the Law & the Gospel and the fact that we never, ever “accept” God. He accepts us & forms our faith within us. I was reintroduced to sacramental Christianity, but one that is so pure in its adherence to the Word of God. (Unlike the Roman Catholic faith in which I was raised). I found a faith that is filled with paradoxes and still objective in its truths. And I love it. (Please understand that I am stating my journey of faith with no intention of disparaging other churches). And thank you Dr. Veith for assisting me on this journey.

  • B.Wink

    Love the commercial. I recently joined an LCMS congregation here in Utah. I was raised in the Roman Catholic faith, strayed, and had been attending a non-denominational church prior to my introduction to the Lutheran confession of faith. While attending the non-denom church, I kept wondering how anyone could “accept” Christ into their lives with a heart that is sin-filled and depraved. I would leave the services confused and admittedly irritated. But I couldn’t quite put my finger on “why” I was feeling that way. And to me it felt more like a big party, rather than a church service. Then I discovered Lutheranism and a great Pastor who answered all of my questions and who let me borrow his copy of Dr. Veith’s, “The Spirituality of the Cross”. I found that my irritation was founded in the blending of the Law & the Gospel and the fact that we never, ever “accept” God. He accepts us & forms our faith within us. I was reintroduced to sacramental Christianity, but one that is so pure in its adherence to the Word of God. (Unlike the Roman Catholic faith in which I was raised). I found a faith that is filled with paradoxes and still objective in its truths. And I love it. (Please understand that I am stating my journey of faith with no intention of disparaging other churches). And thank you Dr. Veith for assisting me on this journey.

  • Bror Erickson

    That would be a great commercial for the LCMS if they just changed the last little bit to a webpage offering the closest Lutheran Church to you, and put it on T.V.

  • Bror Erickson

    That would be a great commercial for the LCMS if they just changed the last little bit to a webpage offering the closest Lutheran Church to you, and put it on T.V.

  • Booklover

    Thank you so much for the neat YouTube piece. I married out of Lutheranism and my heart breaks at what I lost. B. Wink (#1) echoed much of what I’ve experienced. There are other huge factors including our church now does not catechize their members. So my four boys have been raised without systematic doctrinal learning. :-( I know that is my fault too–I have attempted, but only piecemeal. And I scream inside when there are more copies of “Left Behind” in the church library than Augustine or Luther, or even the Bible!! And I never will get over the casual flippancy of communion, sans wine.
    I keep in touch with Lutheranism through White Horse Inn and websites like this. And I talk to my boys. A couple of them are not averse to marrying Lutheran girls. But then neither was their father. :-)

  • Booklover

    Thank you so much for the neat YouTube piece. I married out of Lutheranism and my heart breaks at what I lost. B. Wink (#1) echoed much of what I’ve experienced. There are other huge factors including our church now does not catechize their members. So my four boys have been raised without systematic doctrinal learning. :-( I know that is my fault too–I have attempted, but only piecemeal. And I scream inside when there are more copies of “Left Behind” in the church library than Augustine or Luther, or even the Bible!! And I never will get over the casual flippancy of communion, sans wine.
    I keep in touch with Lutheranism through White Horse Inn and websites like this. And I talk to my boys. A couple of them are not averse to marrying Lutheran girls. But then neither was their father. :-)

  • Joe

    Booklover, there is still time. I don’t know the ages of your boys, but CPH has pretty good study guides starting with little ones – i.e. my first catechism, with work book and parent/teacher guide. Take a look at the web page. You don’t have to go it alone!

  • Joe

    Booklover, there is still time. I don’t know the ages of your boys, but CPH has pretty good study guides starting with little ones – i.e. my first catechism, with work book and parent/teacher guide. Take a look at the web page. You don’t have to go it alone!

  • http://amusedmomma.blogspot.com Paula

    It’s good to see that the ending changed from the previous version. I enjoy this one much better!

  • http://amusedmomma.blogspot.com Paula

    It’s good to see that the ending changed from the previous version. I enjoy this one much better!

  • Veith

    Wow, B. Wink, thanks for that. It’s encouraging and amazing to me to hear about how my book “Spirituality of the Cross” has had such an impact on people.

  • Veith

    Wow, B. Wink, thanks for that. It’s encouraging and amazing to me to hear about how my book “Spirituality of the Cross” has had such an impact on people.

  • Bror Erickson

    Booklover,
    What would your husband do if you went to a Lutheran Church by yourself on Sunday? Does he know your frustration? What are his hang ups with Lutheranism? And why can’t he be loving enough to allow his wife to put her conscience at ease by attending a Lutheran Church?
    I hope that doesn’t come off as judgemental. But I would like to know.

  • Bror Erickson

    Booklover,
    What would your husband do if you went to a Lutheran Church by yourself on Sunday? Does he know your frustration? What are his hang ups with Lutheranism? And why can’t he be loving enough to allow his wife to put her conscience at ease by attending a Lutheran Church?
    I hope that doesn’t come off as judgemental. But I would like to know.

  • B.Wink

    Hey Bror! I understand that you know the “other” Pastor Erickson… His is the church that I attend. I finally put two and two together and realize that he has spoken, (very kindly), of you.

    Dr. Veith – your book has had tremendous impact. In fact, I passed it on to my husband when I was finished. And after reading your book and receiving instruction, he became a member of the Lutheran church as well.

  • B.Wink

    Hey Bror! I understand that you know the “other” Pastor Erickson… His is the church that I attend. I finally put two and two together and realize that he has spoken, (very kindly), of you.

    Dr. Veith – your book has had tremendous impact. In fact, I passed it on to my husband when I was finished. And after reading your book and receiving instruction, he became a member of the Lutheran church as well.

  • fw

    Yes!

  • fw

    Yes!

  • Bror Erickson

    B.Wink,
    Yes Erickson the Grey is a good man also, and a great pastor, I always enjoy working with him.

  • Bror Erickson

    B.Wink,
    Yes Erickson the Grey is a good man also, and a great pastor, I always enjoy working with him.

  • B.Wink

    Too funny Bror. He did mention that you liked to refer to him as that.

  • B.Wink

    Too funny Bror. He did mention that you liked to refer to him as that.

  • Bror Erickson

    It is really a title of honor, much wisdom comes with his grey. Me I’m younger, haven’t had time for wisdom yet.

  • Bror Erickson

    It is really a title of honor, much wisdom comes with his grey. Me I’m younger, haven’t had time for wisdom yet.

  • Jonathan

    Booklover,
    I was raised a Baptist and my wife was raised a Lutheran. When we were engaged, I was a stubborn defender of the Baptist tradition and dragged her over into my camp. After nearly four years of marriage, by God’s grace I am now beginning to recognize some of the errors of my tradition, particularly with regards to Baptism and the Lord’s Supper. Over the last few months God has been reforming my heart and mind through the Scriptures. Consequently, we have been visiting Lutheran churches in our area while considering leaving our Baptist church. After one visit to a Lutheran church, the primary motivator for my going again was the fact that the entire service revolved around, and proclaimed boldly, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It was almost as if all my life I had been eating my spiritual meals at McDonald’s, thinking that’s all there was, and someone had introduced me to Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse. I hope that gives you some encouragement.

  • Jonathan

    Booklover,
    I was raised a Baptist and my wife was raised a Lutheran. When we were engaged, I was a stubborn defender of the Baptist tradition and dragged her over into my camp. After nearly four years of marriage, by God’s grace I am now beginning to recognize some of the errors of my tradition, particularly with regards to Baptism and the Lord’s Supper. Over the last few months God has been reforming my heart and mind through the Scriptures. Consequently, we have been visiting Lutheran churches in our area while considering leaving our Baptist church. After one visit to a Lutheran church, the primary motivator for my going again was the fact that the entire service revolved around, and proclaimed boldly, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It was almost as if all my life I had been eating my spiritual meals at McDonald’s, thinking that’s all there was, and someone had introduced me to Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse. I hope that gives you some encouragement.

  • Richard Wohlers

    Dr. Vieth, Check out the following URL of Rincker Memorial Library
    http://cuwdigital.cuw.edu
    Thanks!
    RW

  • Richard Wohlers

    Dr. Vieth, Check out the following URL of Rincker Memorial Library
    http://cuwdigital.cuw.edu
    Thanks!
    RW

  • fw

    here in Brasil, both LCMS affiliated congregations I attend use a dumbed down liturgy.
    My pastors know that i bring someone new to church almost every sunday.

    I tell my pastors this:

    Try to copy the bapticostals and a bapticostal will say “my the music is lame. I can get that better at my own church.”

    Follow the historic liturgy and do it well, and ….

    the catholics I bring will be impressed with the reverence and the centrality of christ and the holy supper.

    the bapticostals I bring will be impressed with the otherworldly reverence and the centrality of the crucified and risen christ.

    Conclusion: If we want effective missionary outreach in the divine service, concentrate on using the means we have faithfully, creatively and intentionally, and leave the results to God.

    we will not be disappointed at those results. and even if the church does not grow as a result, we will have planted memorable and fertile seeds.

  • fw

    here in Brasil, both LCMS affiliated congregations I attend use a dumbed down liturgy.
    My pastors know that i bring someone new to church almost every sunday.

    I tell my pastors this:

    Try to copy the bapticostals and a bapticostal will say “my the music is lame. I can get that better at my own church.”

    Follow the historic liturgy and do it well, and ….

    the catholics I bring will be impressed with the reverence and the centrality of christ and the holy supper.

    the bapticostals I bring will be impressed with the otherworldly reverence and the centrality of the crucified and risen christ.

    Conclusion: If we want effective missionary outreach in the divine service, concentrate on using the means we have faithfully, creatively and intentionally, and leave the results to God.

    we will not be disappointed at those results. and even if the church does not grow as a result, we will have planted memorable and fertile seeds.

  • fw

    “…..and even if the church does not grow as a result, ”

    correction… grow numerically…. of COURSE it will grow with Jesus all up in da mix!!!!

  • fw

    “…..and even if the church does not grow as a result, ”

    correction… grow numerically…. of COURSE it will grow with Jesus all up in da mix!!!!

  • Booklover

    Thank you Joe (4) and Bror (7) for the communication. I don’t feel comfortable discussing my husband’s beliefs in this forum but suffice it to say that I elected to go where he wanted, because in cases I’ve seen where the husband goes to Lutheranism for the wife, he ends up staying home while the wife and kids go to church. To present a unified front, I went to my “husband’s side”—important when raising four boys. They are now all men, except for the youngest who is a teen. When he’s 18 and gone from home, maybe I’ll try to drag my husband the Lutheran way. :-) What a wonderful story, Jonathan (13)! For now, I sometimes attend Lenten services at the nearby Lutheran church, by myself. It is good to go, although I don’t as yet know anyone there. As it is now, I feel I have a pretty good ministry in our Baptist church. Whenever anyone says, “Well, you know they’re not born again—they’re Lutheran,” I give them a good education!! (Although the congregants at this Baptist church don’t say that nearly so much as those at our previous “revivalist” church did.) There are many good things about this Baptist church, and the pastor is very open to “my side.” One gift I gave him was John Warwick Montgomery’s *Tractatus Logico-Theologicus.* He read the whole thing! (Maybe the next gift will be *Spirituality of the Cross*??! or Craig Parton’s *The Defense Never Rests*?) And he is very open to following some of the Christian calendar, something our previous “Bible” churches Never did. I should have made it clear that we’ve been in three churches since our marriage, and this current Baptist church is much more Christ-centered than the previous two revivalist/Bible churches we attended.

  • Booklover

    Thank you Joe (4) and Bror (7) for the communication. I don’t feel comfortable discussing my husband’s beliefs in this forum but suffice it to say that I elected to go where he wanted, because in cases I’ve seen where the husband goes to Lutheranism for the wife, he ends up staying home while the wife and kids go to church. To present a unified front, I went to my “husband’s side”—important when raising four boys. They are now all men, except for the youngest who is a teen. When he’s 18 and gone from home, maybe I’ll try to drag my husband the Lutheran way. :-) What a wonderful story, Jonathan (13)! For now, I sometimes attend Lenten services at the nearby Lutheran church, by myself. It is good to go, although I don’t as yet know anyone there. As it is now, I feel I have a pretty good ministry in our Baptist church. Whenever anyone says, “Well, you know they’re not born again—they’re Lutheran,” I give them a good education!! (Although the congregants at this Baptist church don’t say that nearly so much as those at our previous “revivalist” church did.) There are many good things about this Baptist church, and the pastor is very open to “my side.” One gift I gave him was John Warwick Montgomery’s *Tractatus Logico-Theologicus.* He read the whole thing! (Maybe the next gift will be *Spirituality of the Cross*??! or Craig Parton’s *The Defense Never Rests*?) And he is very open to following some of the Christian calendar, something our previous “Bible” churches Never did. I should have made it clear that we’ve been in three churches since our marriage, and this current Baptist church is much more Christ-centered than the previous two revivalist/Bible churches we attended.

  • http://www.geneveith.com Veith

    Good on you, Richard, for making those resources available like this. Blessings to all of you at CUW!

  • http://www.geneveith.com Veith

    Good on you, Richard, for making those resources available like this. Blessings to all of you at CUW!

  • Bror Erickson

    Booklover,
    Thanks for sharing. Sorry. Keep the faith, keep fighting. Now what would your husband do if you converted the pastor with that literature! You have to watch it, because that has happened.

  • Bror Erickson

    Booklover,
    Thanks for sharing. Sorry. Keep the faith, keep fighting. Now what would your husband do if you converted the pastor with that literature! You have to watch it, because that has happened.

  • fw

    my mom took us to a baptist church when we were little because there was only that church in our tiny town. it went ok enuf until my mom had to teach the story of the wedding feast at cana and talked about changing water to wine and the pastor´s kids were in her class. we…um…sorta had to stop going there….

  • fw

    my mom took us to a baptist church when we were little because there was only that church in our tiny town. it went ok enuf until my mom had to teach the story of the wedding feast at cana and talked about changing water to wine and the pastor´s kids were in her class. we…um…sorta had to stop going there….


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