CBS looks for those missing snipers

CBS dug through its files and did a story on what we blogged about yesterday, juxtaposing Hillary Clinton’s speech about running with her head down from sniper fire with video clips of what actually happened. See for yourself:

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • organshoes

    Re: best constructions:
    It’s an act of charity, to credit someone, through our constructions, with trust not evidently due to them.
    So, charitably, I could say that perhaps she confused this landing, at this base, with another landing elsewhere. And I could feel badly for her that she’s speaking the truth, but has confused what is true with what her mind recalls.
    This is a middle-aged phenomenon, one I’ve observed AND experienced; an attempt by the mind, I think, to clear up the past, or to land disparate facts into a more cogent narrative. But it usually involves the peripheral details like who was really sitting in the front seat of the family car, or what song was playing, or what color blouse I or one of my sisters wore; not bullets flying when they didn’t or running with my head down when I didn’t.
    I feel sorry for the folks who have to clean up for politicians; who have to re-construct a better construction; who have to weave a story that might have been, when the story that IS doesn’t measure up, but must not be denied.
    All that’s clear is that the whole cloth of ‘the story’ has holes, and that voters are deserving of a better construction of facts than what’s been offered.
    Then again, it’s on the voters shoulders now, whether or not they want to remain the fools they seem to be taken for.
    Personally, I’ve found lots of instances of Clinton-speak where they beg me to take up my Christian, charitable knitting needles, and start knitting a story that serves the Clinton; that asks me to be his, or her, fool. So this particular ‘narrative’ comes as no surprise, and is not without precedent. The press comes late to the matter, in my estimation.

  • organshoes

    Re: best constructions:
    It’s an act of charity, to credit someone, through our constructions, with trust not evidently due to them.
    So, charitably, I could say that perhaps she confused this landing, at this base, with another landing elsewhere. And I could feel badly for her that she’s speaking the truth, but has confused what is true with what her mind recalls.
    This is a middle-aged phenomenon, one I’ve observed AND experienced; an attempt by the mind, I think, to clear up the past, or to land disparate facts into a more cogent narrative. But it usually involves the peripheral details like who was really sitting in the front seat of the family car, or what song was playing, or what color blouse I or one of my sisters wore; not bullets flying when they didn’t or running with my head down when I didn’t.
    I feel sorry for the folks who have to clean up for politicians; who have to re-construct a better construction; who have to weave a story that might have been, when the story that IS doesn’t measure up, but must not be denied.
    All that’s clear is that the whole cloth of ‘the story’ has holes, and that voters are deserving of a better construction of facts than what’s been offered.
    Then again, it’s on the voters shoulders now, whether or not they want to remain the fools they seem to be taken for.
    Personally, I’ve found lots of instances of Clinton-speak where they beg me to take up my Christian, charitable knitting needles, and start knitting a story that serves the Clinton; that asks me to be his, or her, fool. So this particular ‘narrative’ comes as no surprise, and is not without precedent. The press comes late to the matter, in my estimation.

  • CRB

    Well, if anyone might be thinking of taking a serious look
    at the Obama camp, please read this excellent article first:
    http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/thornton032108.html

  • CRB

    Well, if anyone might be thinking of taking a serious look
    at the Obama camp, please read this excellent article first:
    http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/thornton032108.html

  • organshoes

    Exactly, CRB. The same press willing to call a Clinton to question over ‘truthiness’–finally!–seems willing to allow Obama wiggle-room over the matter of his former pastor, not to mention his Chicago-style associations. So this is no change of tactics by mainstream media–just a change of masters.
    To me, reporters and pundits are the real culprits anyways, in fudging records or glossing over facts; telling what they want us to know, rather than what is to be known; and for minimizing positions, maximizing the daily skirmishes. So little of substance is being told; just who’s up, who’s down; who needs to do or say what–so shallow, so un-curious, so irresponsible.

  • organshoes

    Exactly, CRB. The same press willing to call a Clinton to question over ‘truthiness’–finally!–seems willing to allow Obama wiggle-room over the matter of his former pastor, not to mention his Chicago-style associations. So this is no change of tactics by mainstream media–just a change of masters.
    To me, reporters and pundits are the real culprits anyways, in fudging records or glossing over facts; telling what they want us to know, rather than what is to be known; and for minimizing positions, maximizing the daily skirmishes. So little of substance is being told; just who’s up, who’s down; who needs to do or say what–so shallow, so un-curious, so irresponsible.

  • Don S

    The political class is learning, slowly but surely, that it is much more difficult to exaggerate, prevaricate, or obfuscate in the YouTube/Internet age. Accountability is a good thing.

  • Don S

    The political class is learning, slowly but surely, that it is much more difficult to exaggerate, prevaricate, or obfuscate in the YouTube/Internet age. Accountability is a good thing.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    If we are to doubt that Hillary was lying about this, our job got a lot harder. Even as Hillary was admitting she “mis-spoke”, her daughter was repeating the false claim. What are the odds that two people separated by hundreds of miles would have the same error in memory–and one would be repeating that error while the other would be admitting it was wrong?

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    If we are to doubt that Hillary was lying about this, our job got a lot harder. Even as Hillary was admitting she “mis-spoke”, her daughter was repeating the false claim. What are the odds that two people separated by hundreds of miles would have the same error in memory–and one would be repeating that error while the other would be admitting it was wrong?

  • Carl Vehse

    From a href=”http://www.kptv.com/politics/15701267/detail.html”>KPTV Fox 12 News Hillary is quoted as saying:

    “So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I am human, which you know, for some people, is a revelation.”

    Well, keep on digging the hole even deeper, Hillary.

    “I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke.”

    She’s not the one this country needs to answer those 3 AM calls on the crisis hot line.

  • Carl Vehse

    From a href=”http://www.kptv.com/politics/15701267/detail.html”>KPTV Fox 12 News Hillary is quoted as saying:

    “So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I am human, which you know, for some people, is a revelation.”

    Well, keep on digging the hole even deeper, Hillary.

    “I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke.”

    She’s not the one this country needs to answer those 3 AM calls on the crisis hot line.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Anyone who thinks Obama is the only one getting a free ride from the press must have forgotten the love affair many in the media had and have for “maverick” John McCain. For that matter, I can’t see how anyone can think Clinton’s gotten a free ride until now. I think she’s the one who’s gotten the most scrutiny of any of the three.

    And since the discussion so far has been limited only to the Democrats, I’ll bring up McCain. Was his repeated assertion that Iran is backing Al Qaeda (several times in that speech, plus the day before in an interview) merely a serial mistake? Should we be concerned about voting for a candidate who has trouble distinguishing between Sunni and Shiite or can’t keep such crucial foreign relations straight when reading a speech or giving an interview?

    Should we, as Bike Bubba puts it (@5), ask “what are the odds” that he’d make the same mistake several times in several different situations, and conclude — logically, it could be argued — that McCain is instead trying to confuse people about Iran’s role to lay the groundwork for a future conflict?

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Anyone who thinks Obama is the only one getting a free ride from the press must have forgotten the love affair many in the media had and have for “maverick” John McCain. For that matter, I can’t see how anyone can think Clinton’s gotten a free ride until now. I think she’s the one who’s gotten the most scrutiny of any of the three.

    And since the discussion so far has been limited only to the Democrats, I’ll bring up McCain. Was his repeated assertion that Iran is backing Al Qaeda (several times in that speech, plus the day before in an interview) merely a serial mistake? Should we be concerned about voting for a candidate who has trouble distinguishing between Sunni and Shiite or can’t keep such crucial foreign relations straight when reading a speech or giving an interview?

    Should we, as Bike Bubba puts it (@5), ask “what are the odds” that he’d make the same mistake several times in several different situations, and conclude — logically, it could be argued — that McCain is instead trying to confuse people about Iran’s role to lay the groundwork for a future conflict?

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  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    Todd,first of all, my argument from probability rests not on a serial mistake, but on the likelihood that two people separated by hundreds of miles would make the same mistake. That doesn’t exist for McCain’s statement.

    And the statement? Well, according to the Weekly Standard, there is some evidence for McCain’s claim. So he’s not even wrong, let alone lying.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/03/mccain_was_right_iran_works_wi.asp

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    Todd,first of all, my argument from probability rests not on a serial mistake, but on the likelihood that two people separated by hundreds of miles would make the same mistake. That doesn’t exist for McCain’s statement.

    And the statement? Well, according to the Weekly Standard, there is some evidence for McCain’s claim. So he’s not even wrong, let alone lying.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/03/mccain_was_right_iran_works_wi.asp

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Bike Bubba (@9), even if we assume that McCain was correct the first time, that makes it all the sillier that he apologized and corrected himself.

    Either he was wrong about the Iran-AQI link (meaning that he gets major foreign policy facts confused repeatedly), or he was right in the first place (meaning that he got confused merely from a suggestion from his supporter, Joe Lieberman). Not sure how that makes him look good, either way.

    In a recent interview, Gen. Petraeus noted, in contrast to his interviewer’s suggestion that Iran was supporting Al Qaeda, that “the flow of foreign fighters and suicide bombers that help Al Qaeda typically is through Syria.”

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Bike Bubba (@9), even if we assume that McCain was correct the first time, that makes it all the sillier that he apologized and corrected himself.

    Either he was wrong about the Iran-AQI link (meaning that he gets major foreign policy facts confused repeatedly), or he was right in the first place (meaning that he got confused merely from a suggestion from his supporter, Joe Lieberman). Not sure how that makes him look good, either way.

    In a recent interview, Gen. Petraeus noted, in contrast to his interviewer’s suggestion that Iran was supporting Al Qaeda, that “the flow of foreign fighters and suicide bombers that help Al Qaeda typically is through Syria.”


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