German neo-Nazis embracing Islam

The hard-core German rap scene consists of skin-heads, neo-Nazis, and other anti-semites. The latest fad is to convert to Islam, call for jihad, and idolize Osama bin Laden, in place of Hitler.

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • Joe

    Oh this can’t be good.

  • Joe

    Oh this can’t be good.

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  • T Sherm

    I realize it was probably just from having him on the brain a lot lately, but the name there should probably be corrected to read “Osama bin Laden”

  • T Sherm

    I realize it was probably just from having him on the brain a lot lately, but the name there should probably be corrected to read “Osama bin Laden”

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    Neo-Nazi rappers converting to Islam? You sure this isn’t just the pizza I ate too late at night?

    I’m imagining pasty white German fly girls in burgas with SS insignia and a crescent on them. And a tuba holding down the bass.

    You sure this isn’t something from Dave Barry or Tom Wolfe? :^)

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    Neo-Nazi rappers converting to Islam? You sure this isn’t just the pizza I ate too late at night?

    I’m imagining pasty white German fly girls in burgas with SS insignia and a crescent on them. And a tuba holding down the bass.

    You sure this isn’t something from Dave Barry or Tom Wolfe? :^)

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    I believe the summary sentence of “the latest fad is to convert to Islam” is a bit erroneous. Nothing in the article talks of conversion — in fact, the article notes that, of the few rappers cited, they are Muslim immigrants, not converts to Islam.

    I think it would be more accurate to note that the anti-American, antisemitic lyrics of such Muslim immigrants finds some acceptance among the white German middle class. This is largely analogous to how the white middle class in America eats up stories of “hard” black men boasting of battle scars and threatening each other.

    The twist, of course, is the antisemitism, which is sadly not too surprising in Germany. That German rap (from Muslim immigrants or otherwise) espouses hatred towards various minority groups isn’t unusual, of course — it’s the same here in the States.

    That said, I’m unconvinced that this is anything like a “fad”. It exists, yes, and the music is finding acceptance outside of its initial cultural circle, but is it actually popular? Bözemann’s MySpace page notes that he has 5349 friends. That’s not a lot. Massiv has 26,903 friends. In contrast, I picked random “top” hip hop artists from MySpace Music and found that Akon has 613,034 friends, and T Pain has 587,188 friends. I haven’t heard of them, either. Just saying.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    I believe the summary sentence of “the latest fad is to convert to Islam” is a bit erroneous. Nothing in the article talks of conversion — in fact, the article notes that, of the few rappers cited, they are Muslim immigrants, not converts to Islam.

    I think it would be more accurate to note that the anti-American, antisemitic lyrics of such Muslim immigrants finds some acceptance among the white German middle class. This is largely analogous to how the white middle class in America eats up stories of “hard” black men boasting of battle scars and threatening each other.

    The twist, of course, is the antisemitism, which is sadly not too surprising in Germany. That German rap (from Muslim immigrants or otherwise) espouses hatred towards various minority groups isn’t unusual, of course — it’s the same here in the States.

    That said, I’m unconvinced that this is anything like a “fad”. It exists, yes, and the music is finding acceptance outside of its initial cultural circle, but is it actually popular? Bözemann’s MySpace page notes that he has 5349 friends. That’s not a lot. Massiv has 26,903 friends. In contrast, I picked random “top” hip hop artists from MySpace Music and found that Akon has 613,034 friends, and T Pain has 587,188 friends. I haven’t heard of them, either. Just saying.

  • http://www.geneveith.com Veith

    T Sherm, thanks for catching my idiotic mistake. I’m NOT shilling for Hillary Clinton, I’m really not. I fixed it.

  • http://www.geneveith.com Veith

    T Sherm, thanks for catching my idiotic mistake. I’m NOT shilling for Hillary Clinton, I’m really not. I fixed it.


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