And then Al Gore rides in on a white horse

I see no reason why Hillary Clinton should bow out of the Democratic race in favor of Barack Obama. Let the people vote. Let the superdelegates conspire in their smoke-free rooms. But the latest fantasy in the Democratic party is that the convention is all locked up so that the delegates agree on a compromise candidate: Al Gore! Do you think that would fly with the primary voters, choosing someone none of them voted for? Or with the rest of America?

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    I’m pretty certain this fantasy isn’t actually “in the Democratic party” — quite the opposite.

    This is a dream scenario cooked up by right-wingers. I guess with the right’s leading bête noire looking less likely to win the nomination, it’s time to resort to that other classic bugaboo for daydreaming.

    Should Gore bother to quash this ridiculous scenario, perhaps the UN will be seen to make moves that will take control of America in the guise of “election monitoring”?

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    I’m pretty certain this fantasy isn’t actually “in the Democratic party” — quite the opposite.

    This is a dream scenario cooked up by right-wingers. I guess with the right’s leading bête noire looking less likely to win the nomination, it’s time to resort to that other classic bugaboo for daydreaming.

    Should Gore bother to quash this ridiculous scenario, perhaps the UN will be seen to make moves that will take control of America in the guise of “election monitoring”?

  • Carl Vehse

    The left-wing and lamestream media seem to have selected an empty suit as their preferred candidate. Should the suit start to shred, they can always go for the hot air balloon.

  • Carl Vehse

    The left-wing and lamestream media seem to have selected an empty suit as their preferred candidate. Should the suit start to shred, they can always go for the hot air balloon.

  • Don S

    tODD, read the linked article. This is a suggestion being made by a number of liberal columnists and democrat politicians as being a potential resolution to the Obama/Clinton mess.

  • Don S

    tODD, read the linked article. This is a suggestion being made by a number of liberal columnists and democrat politicians as being a potential resolution to the Obama/Clinton mess.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Don S (@3), I read the article. There are three people named as discussing this idea, and not all of them are actually embracing the idea.

    Joe Klein (for whom the label “liberal” isn’t a very good fit) had this to say about the idea:

    Which brings us back to Al Gore. Pish-tosh, you say, and you’re probably right. But let’s play a little. [...] I played out that scenario with about a dozen prominent Democrats recently, from various sectors of the party, including both Obama and Clinton partisans. Most said it was extremely unlikely … and a pretty interesting idea. (Emphases mine)

    Eleanor Clift — a Fox News analyst among other things — seems more likely to support the idea herself, though she had this to say:

    The Gore second-ballot scenario isn’t being seriously considered by Democratic Party leaders (as far as we know). But a number of individual high-profile Democrats are talking about it, along with any number of other ideas to end the seemingly intractable stalemate. (Emphasis mine)

    Mahoney — until recently a lifelong Republican — is an uncommitted superdelegate and has not (and said he will not) endorse anybody.

    In short, people are talking about it like people are talking about the Cubs going all the way this year — “What if this happened?” “Yeah, that would be nice.”

    But it’s the right-wing that’s salivating over the idea so they can make fat jokes. (There being, of course, no overweight Republicans.)

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Don S (@3), I read the article. There are three people named as discussing this idea, and not all of them are actually embracing the idea.

    Joe Klein (for whom the label “liberal” isn’t a very good fit) had this to say about the idea:

    Which brings us back to Al Gore. Pish-tosh, you say, and you’re probably right. But let’s play a little. [...] I played out that scenario with about a dozen prominent Democrats recently, from various sectors of the party, including both Obama and Clinton partisans. Most said it was extremely unlikely … and a pretty interesting idea. (Emphases mine)

    Eleanor Clift — a Fox News analyst among other things — seems more likely to support the idea herself, though she had this to say:

    The Gore second-ballot scenario isn’t being seriously considered by Democratic Party leaders (as far as we know). But a number of individual high-profile Democrats are talking about it, along with any number of other ideas to end the seemingly intractable stalemate. (Emphasis mine)

    Mahoney — until recently a lifelong Republican — is an uncommitted superdelegate and has not (and said he will not) endorse anybody.

    In short, people are talking about it like people are talking about the Cubs going all the way this year — “What if this happened?” “Yeah, that would be nice.”

    But it’s the right-wing that’s salivating over the idea so they can make fat jokes. (There being, of course, no overweight Republicans.)

  • mathguru

    to tODD (#4): Yes, Eleanor Clift appears on FOX. However, that does not make her a conservative, or even a moderate. She has been known to be a liberal throughout her days on “The McLaughlin Group” and was always a cheerleader for Democrats, especially President Clinton.

    Granted the Republicans may like to fantasize about such things, but check out the UK Telegraph article from March 31st: former Gore aides are hoping too.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/30/wuspols130.xml

  • mathguru

    to tODD (#4): Yes, Eleanor Clift appears on FOX. However, that does not make her a conservative, or even a moderate. She has been known to be a liberal throughout her days on “The McLaughlin Group” and was always a cheerleader for Democrats, especially President Clinton.

    Granted the Republicans may like to fantasize about such things, but check out the UK Telegraph article from March 31st: former Gore aides are hoping too.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/30/wuspols130.xml

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Mathguru (@5), I’ll accept that appearing on Fox does not mean one is not liberal, but it is just as true that being a member of “the media” (a term that somehow never includes Fox News, among other conservative media outlets) does not mean one is liberal.

    The fact that the Telegraph (itself not exactly a left-leaning source) article also mentions Mahoney and Klein (“The doyen of American political writers”? Please) makes this seem all the more like an idea from the echo chamber.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Mathguru (@5), I’ll accept that appearing on Fox does not mean one is not liberal, but it is just as true that being a member of “the media” (a term that somehow never includes Fox News, among other conservative media outlets) does not mean one is liberal.

    The fact that the Telegraph (itself not exactly a left-leaning source) article also mentions Mahoney and Klein (“The doyen of American political writers”? Please) makes this seem all the more like an idea from the echo chamber.

  • Don S

    tODD, I agree with you that this is not an idea the democrat establishment wants. But it also is not a right wing fantasy. I think we in the “right wing” are perfectly content to have McCain run against either Hillary or Obama. Hillary continues to have high negatives, made worse by her stubborn persistence in running this desperate campaign of her’s, and Obama has finally been exposed for the radical far left proponent of liberation theology that he really is.

  • Don S

    tODD, I agree with you that this is not an idea the democrat establishment wants. But it also is not a right wing fantasy. I think we in the “right wing” are perfectly content to have McCain run against either Hillary or Obama. Hillary continues to have high negatives, made worse by her stubborn persistence in running this desperate campaign of her’s, and Obama has finally been exposed for the radical far left proponent of liberation theology that he really is.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Don S, you claimed (@7) that “it also is not a right wing fantasy.” Sorry, but you clearly don’t speak for quite a few right-wing commenters at the Pajamas Media site linked in Veith’s original post. The idea of Gore running again clearly is a fantasy of many on the right.

  • http://www.cockahoop.com/ tODD

    Don S, you claimed (@7) that “it also is not a right wing fantasy.” Sorry, but you clearly don’t speak for quite a few right-wing commenters at the Pajamas Media site linked in Veith’s original post. The idea of Gore running again clearly is a fantasy of many on the right.

  • CRB

    With the direction this country is headed politically and spiritually, I would not be surprised that we may very well be looking ahead and later (should the Lord tarry)
    looking back on “the days of Gore”! Think about what that might mean for the church?!

  • CRB

    With the direction this country is headed politically and spiritually, I would not be surprised that we may very well be looking ahead and later (should the Lord tarry)
    looking back on “the days of Gore”! Think about what that might mean for the church?!

  • mathguru

    tODD (#6): I am sorry I was not as clear as I could have been. Clift is a liberal not because she appears in the media, but because of the opinions she gives through the media. The UK Telegraph may not be “a left-leaning source”, but the ultimate question is whether or not former senior aides to Gore are pushing this scenario. Personally, I think they wish they knew back then what they know now and had run a campaign.

    Finally (#4), yes Al Gore has gained weight. Yes, it is childish for anyone to attack political figures for being big or fat instead of engaging in a discussion about ideas. I have to leave now, I need to read Al Franken’s “Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot”.

  • mathguru

    tODD (#6): I am sorry I was not as clear as I could have been. Clift is a liberal not because she appears in the media, but because of the opinions she gives through the media. The UK Telegraph may not be “a left-leaning source”, but the ultimate question is whether or not former senior aides to Gore are pushing this scenario. Personally, I think they wish they knew back then what they know now and had run a campaign.

    Finally (#4), yes Al Gore has gained weight. Yes, it is childish for anyone to attack political figures for being big or fat instead of engaging in a discussion about ideas. I have to leave now, I need to read Al Franken’s “Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot”.

  • Don S

    Matthguru @ # 10 — LOL!!!

  • Don S

    Matthguru @ # 10 — LOL!!!


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