Maj. Hasan’s jihadism was out in the open

So Maj. Nidal M. Hasan, M.D., who killed 13 human beings at Ft. Hood, carried on e-mail correspondence with radical jihadists, posted praise of suicide bombers and other radical Islamist sentiments on websites, gave lectures at Walter Reed on how Muslim soldiers should not fight fellow-Muslims, and in other ways was open about his radical jihadist beliefs. Not only that, officials knew he had done all these things! But they did nothing about it! Why not?

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • Jack Kilcrease

    Because they didn’t want to get sued. That simple.

  • Jack Kilcrease

    Because they didn’t want to get sued. That simple.

  • Carl Vehse

    Why Walter Reed military officials did nothing?

    1. Political correctness (especially O-6 and above)
    2. Fear of being labelled as a religious profiler by politically correct superiors
    3. Possible damage to military promotion
    4. Possible damage to medical career advancement in or out of the military
    5. Once Hasan was on orders to go to Fort Hood… hey, he’s their problem now.
    6. Ready access to prescription medication if one can’t sleep for knowingly failing to act.

  • Carl Vehse

    Why Walter Reed military officials did nothing?

    1. Political correctness (especially O-6 and above)
    2. Fear of being labelled as a religious profiler by politically correct superiors
    3. Possible damage to military promotion
    4. Possible damage to medical career advancement in or out of the military
    5. Once Hasan was on orders to go to Fort Hood… hey, he’s their problem now.
    6. Ready access to prescription medication if one can’t sleep for knowingly failing to act.

  • Carl Vehse

    Oh, a couple more:

    7. Amount of paperwork one is required to fill out to officially raise concerns about Hasan possibly “going Islamal.”
    8. Amount of paperwork one would have to pass on to superiors forcing them to have to make a decision on the politically-sensitive issue.

  • Carl Vehse

    Oh, a couple more:

    7. Amount of paperwork one is required to fill out to officially raise concerns about Hasan possibly “going Islamal.”
    8. Amount of paperwork one would have to pass on to superiors forcing them to have to make a decision on the politically-sensitive issue.

  • Jonathan

    The military led the way, thankfully so, in integration even before the civil rights movement in the 60′s. But since those early days, in the early 90′s it has moved well beyond that point and has vociferously embraced and fiercely inculcated what is known in the civilian world as “political correctness” into its ranks. [The military being 'a-political' by law would probably call it 'social correctness.'] It has pounded-in toleration, diversity, and equal opportunity and treatment into its members to such an extent that common sense has to be checked at the door, at the peril of being labeled a bigot, sexist, close-minded, religious-proselytizer (i.e., Christian), or worse–at the risk of disobeying ‘zero-tolerance’ orders that outlaw such behavior, which would have grave career impacts. The military naturally is a culture of conformists who are motivated by self-preservation. Such indoctrination into social-correctness makes members afraid to say or do anything, or they might ignore it because if the military has “zero tolerance” for incorrect behavior, then there can’t be a problem because it must not be happening. But in this case following orders–however well-intentioned those orders may have been–got people killed.

  • Jonathan

    The military led the way, thankfully so, in integration even before the civil rights movement in the 60′s. But since those early days, in the early 90′s it has moved well beyond that point and has vociferously embraced and fiercely inculcated what is known in the civilian world as “political correctness” into its ranks. [The military being 'a-political' by law would probably call it 'social correctness.'] It has pounded-in toleration, diversity, and equal opportunity and treatment into its members to such an extent that common sense has to be checked at the door, at the peril of being labeled a bigot, sexist, close-minded, religious-proselytizer (i.e., Christian), or worse–at the risk of disobeying ‘zero-tolerance’ orders that outlaw such behavior, which would have grave career impacts. The military naturally is a culture of conformists who are motivated by self-preservation. Such indoctrination into social-correctness makes members afraid to say or do anything, or they might ignore it because if the military has “zero tolerance” for incorrect behavior, then there can’t be a problem because it must not be happening. But in this case following orders–however well-intentioned those orders may have been–got people killed.

  • T Sherman

    Dr. Veith,

    As a little side issue I’ve been wondering about with all the coverage of this man’s faith:

    What was the Reformation position about Christians fighting wars against other Christians?

    Thanks,
    Travis

  • T Sherman

    Dr. Veith,

    As a little side issue I’ve been wondering about with all the coverage of this man’s faith:

    What was the Reformation position about Christians fighting wars against other Christians?

    Thanks,
    Travis

  • bdozer

    I have no idea! I only know what the media chooses to put on air and in print, and we all know how trustworthy that can be.

    There are a lot of things about this murderous act that I do not know about however, I have found more than one or two not so little things in the one and only Holy book ever written under the expiation of the one and only true God. It is in these things that I have put my trust, my eternal destiny no matter the spin of our mainstream media or oppessive influence of our post-modern, post-Christian culture.

    For years and years I struggled over our nations “death penalty” issues. As a sidebar, through out ALL of those years I never (not once) heard about this subject from the pulpit. Where are ALL those who claim to preach and teach the whole counsel of God? but I digress. How ironic and how all those seemingly important issues were put to rest when I was directed to God’s covenant with creation found in Genesis chapter 9.

    God is blessing Noah and those of us who come after Noah. Curiously in verse 5 and 6, the One and only true God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob says: “Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man’s brother I will require the life of man.

    “Whoever sheds man’s blood,
    By man his blood shall be shed;
    For in the image of God
    He made man.”

    What I do know about this murderous act is that the blood of no less than 13 men, women including an unborn infant was shed. Shedding the blood of ONE is, without a doubt, an assult on God’s very own character. My mind cannot come up with words or phrases to describe what happens when you multiply that by 13.

    It could not be clearer the penalty for 1st degree murder, the Divine Mandate if you will, for shedding another man’s blood is so grievous (to the one and only most Holy God) that it requires THAT man to give up his life.

    Of that I am sure.

  • bdozer

    I have no idea! I only know what the media chooses to put on air and in print, and we all know how trustworthy that can be.

    There are a lot of things about this murderous act that I do not know about however, I have found more than one or two not so little things in the one and only Holy book ever written under the expiation of the one and only true God. It is in these things that I have put my trust, my eternal destiny no matter the spin of our mainstream media or oppessive influence of our post-modern, post-Christian culture.

    For years and years I struggled over our nations “death penalty” issues. As a sidebar, through out ALL of those years I never (not once) heard about this subject from the pulpit. Where are ALL those who claim to preach and teach the whole counsel of God? but I digress. How ironic and how all those seemingly important issues were put to rest when I was directed to God’s covenant with creation found in Genesis chapter 9.

    God is blessing Noah and those of us who come after Noah. Curiously in verse 5 and 6, the One and only true God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob says: “Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man’s brother I will require the life of man.

    “Whoever sheds man’s blood,
    By man his blood shall be shed;
    For in the image of God
    He made man.”

    What I do know about this murderous act is that the blood of no less than 13 men, women including an unborn infant was shed. Shedding the blood of ONE is, without a doubt, an assult on God’s very own character. My mind cannot come up with words or phrases to describe what happens when you multiply that by 13.

    It could not be clearer the penalty for 1st degree murder, the Divine Mandate if you will, for shedding another man’s blood is so grievous (to the one and only most Holy God) that it requires THAT man to give up his life.

    Of that I am sure.

  • http://www.powerlineblog.com Carl Vehse

    In 1530 and more explicitly in 1538, with the increasing threat of military conflict between Protestant and Catholics, Luther and others at Wittenberg told the leaders of the Smalcald League (a group of loyal Lutheran princes, dukes, and electors in Germany) including Philip of Hesse and Elector John Frederick that any attack by Emperor Charles V would justify them going to war against Charles on grounds of self-defense.

    Unfortunately, in 1839-40, there was a major bigamy scandal involving Philip of Hesse (as well as Luther and other church leaders). Public interest kept the printing presses of the day humming with the latest sensationalist news.

    As a result Philip had to make concessions, which weakened the League. After Luther’s death, war did break out, and the Smalcald League eventually had to negotiate the Peace of Augsburg in 1555.

  • http://www.powerlineblog.com Carl Vehse

    In 1530 and more explicitly in 1538, with the increasing threat of military conflict between Protestant and Catholics, Luther and others at Wittenberg told the leaders of the Smalcald League (a group of loyal Lutheran princes, dukes, and electors in Germany) including Philip of Hesse and Elector John Frederick that any attack by Emperor Charles V would justify them going to war against Charles on grounds of self-defense.

    Unfortunately, in 1839-40, there was a major bigamy scandal involving Philip of Hesse (as well as Luther and other church leaders). Public interest kept the printing presses of the day humming with the latest sensationalist news.

    As a result Philip had to make concessions, which weakened the League. After Luther’s death, war did break out, and the Smalcald League eventually had to negotiate the Peace of Augsburg in 1555.

  • scots

    Nothing to see here people…move along…move along…

  • scots

    Nothing to see here people…move along…move along…

  • Carl Vehse

    In discussing concerns about political correctness in the military and retaliation for crossing the PC line, Missouri Synod Lutherans can make comparisons to the retaliation against Rev. Wallace Schulz for refusing to follow political correctness in his assignment as ecclesiastical supervisor to rule on complaints of syncretism and unionism against the interfaith prayer service coofficiant, David Benke, at Yankee Stadium, following the 9/11 islamoterrorist attack on the U.S.

    Not only was Rev. Schulz vilified by leadership in the ‘Purple Palace’, violating Bylaw requirements on confidentiality, and by Kieschnick/Benke sycophants in the liberal ‘Us-First organization, but Schulz was removed from his position as Lutheran Hour speaker by the Lutheran Laymen’s League, which operates Lutheran Hour Ministries. Schulz was not even allowed to attend an upcoming LLL convention where he was to be honored for his years of services to the Lutheran Hour and months-earlier promotion to main speaker.

    Those few confessional pastors and congregations who filed complaints against Benke can address the flak received for their actions, but the message was made clear to LCMS peons at the next synodical convention when, with pro-Kieschnick delegate-stuffing, Schulz was also voted out of his position as one of the synodical vice-presidents, all for honorably carrying out his responsibilities as he was required to do – “Don’t rock the bureaucratic boat!”

  • Carl Vehse

    In discussing concerns about political correctness in the military and retaliation for crossing the PC line, Missouri Synod Lutherans can make comparisons to the retaliation against Rev. Wallace Schulz for refusing to follow political correctness in his assignment as ecclesiastical supervisor to rule on complaints of syncretism and unionism against the interfaith prayer service coofficiant, David Benke, at Yankee Stadium, following the 9/11 islamoterrorist attack on the U.S.

    Not only was Rev. Schulz vilified by leadership in the ‘Purple Palace’, violating Bylaw requirements on confidentiality, and by Kieschnick/Benke sycophants in the liberal ‘Us-First organization, but Schulz was removed from his position as Lutheran Hour speaker by the Lutheran Laymen’s League, which operates Lutheran Hour Ministries. Schulz was not even allowed to attend an upcoming LLL convention where he was to be honored for his years of services to the Lutheran Hour and months-earlier promotion to main speaker.

    Those few confessional pastors and congregations who filed complaints against Benke can address the flak received for their actions, but the message was made clear to LCMS peons at the next synodical convention when, with pro-Kieschnick delegate-stuffing, Schulz was also voted out of his position as one of the synodical vice-presidents, all for honorably carrying out his responsibilities as he was required to do – “Don’t rock the bureaucratic boat!”

  • Carl Vehse

    “What I do know about this murderous act is that the blood of no less than 13 men, women including an unborn infant was shed.”

    Actually, including the unborn child, that makes 14 people killed by the Islamoterrorist infiltrator, but don’t expect the clymer press to headline any number other than “13″. Whether the Army will even charge the Islamoterrorist with 14 murder counts remains to be seen.

    For the headline, “14 instead of 13 deaths at Fort Hood”, you’ll have to link to WorldMag.com.

  • Carl Vehse

    “What I do know about this murderous act is that the blood of no less than 13 men, women including an unborn infant was shed.”

    Actually, including the unborn child, that makes 14 people killed by the Islamoterrorist infiltrator, but don’t expect the clymer press to headline any number other than “13″. Whether the Army will even charge the Islamoterrorist with 14 murder counts remains to be seen.

    For the headline, “14 instead of 13 deaths at Fort Hood”, you’ll have to link to WorldMag.com.

  • Jonathan

    Carl #9–But, God-willing, PC in LCMS will not lead to blood-shed, rapture maybe.

  • Jonathan

    Carl #9–But, God-willing, PC in LCMS will not lead to blood-shed, rapture maybe.

  • Carl Vehse

    Not rapture for the LCMS!

    As for any red liquid flowing from the ‘Purple Palace’, it’s probably ink.

  • Carl Vehse

    Not rapture for the LCMS!

    As for any red liquid flowing from the ‘Purple Palace’, it’s probably ink.

  • Jon

    Maj. Hasan is innocent until proven guilty.
    There’s also been some reporting based on informtion from medical sources that he may have been mentally ill.

    Oh well, it’s not as if Christ said to love your enemies.

  • Jon

    Maj. Hasan is innocent until proven guilty.
    There’s also been some reporting based on informtion from medical sources that he may have been mentally ill.

    Oh well, it’s not as if Christ said to love your enemies.

  • Carl Vehse

    Jon, Hasan is also innocent of mental illness accusations until proven, but you obviously have decided it’s okay to go ahead and gossip about such unsubstantiated (second-hand) “reporting based on informtion from medical sources.”

  • Carl Vehse

    Jon, Hasan is also innocent of mental illness accusations until proven, but you obviously have decided it’s okay to go ahead and gossip about such unsubstantiated (second-hand) “reporting based on informtion from medical sources.”

  • Jon

    Carl, I’ll keep my opinion about your mental health to myself.

  • Jon

    Carl, I’ll keep my opinion about your mental health to myself.

  • Carl Vehse

    From Diana West’s column, “Diversity Uber Alles”

    Diversity Uber Alles, you see. Literally. As Gen. Casey blatantly underscored it yesterday on Meet the Press:

    “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

    The end of “diversity” as a fetish object is “worse” than the massacre at Ft. Hood? Think about it. The general in charge of the Army is saying that if we, as a people, stop worshipping diversity above all and start protecting our soldiers and ourselves from the teachings and goals of Islam, that’s “worse” than the carnage at Ft. Hood.

    Fire Gen. Casey. His duty is to diversity, not his troops.

    Or give Private Casey some soap, a toothbrush, and latrines to clean.

    West goes on to talk about political correctness metastasized in the leadership of the Naval Academy in a recent fetish case of “diversity.”

  • Carl Vehse

    From Diana West’s column, “Diversity Uber Alles”

    Diversity Uber Alles, you see. Literally. As Gen. Casey blatantly underscored it yesterday on Meet the Press:

    “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

    The end of “diversity” as a fetish object is “worse” than the massacre at Ft. Hood? Think about it. The general in charge of the Army is saying that if we, as a people, stop worshipping diversity above all and start protecting our soldiers and ourselves from the teachings and goals of Islam, that’s “worse” than the carnage at Ft. Hood.

    Fire Gen. Casey. His duty is to diversity, not his troops.

    Or give Private Casey some soap, a toothbrush, and latrines to clean.

    West goes on to talk about political correctness metastasized in the leadership of the Naval Academy in a recent fetish case of “diversity.”

  • Wyldeirishman

    Yes, as he is consistently being referred to in media reports as the ‘alleged’ gunman…

    …as though they have another candidate in mind.

    They wish.

    As to comment #9: Carl, you are spot-on. It continues to be the elephant in the room being ignored, particularly in our loosey-goosey NW District; we may as well declare altar and pulpit with the Methodists and get it over with, just to weed out the ‘haters’ like me.

  • Wyldeirishman

    Yes, as he is consistently being referred to in media reports as the ‘alleged’ gunman…

    …as though they have another candidate in mind.

    They wish.

    As to comment #9: Carl, you are spot-on. It continues to be the elephant in the room being ignored, particularly in our loosey-goosey NW District; we may as well declare altar and pulpit with the Methodists and get it over with, just to weed out the ‘haters’ like me.

  • Joe

    He committed the act. There is no doubt; the only left to determine is his legal culpability. Thus, there is nothing improper about calling him the shooter, gunman or killer. Killing is not illegal – homicide is.

  • Joe

    He committed the act. There is no doubt; the only left to determine is his legal culpability. Thus, there is nothing improper about calling him the shooter, gunman or killer. Killing is not illegal – homicide is.

  • Carl Vehse

    Wyldeirishman,

    I was a NW District convention delegate in 1980 and warned even then by my dad in St. Louis about their liberal “loosey-goosey” ways. That was the year the convention was held in the un-A/C gymnasium at Concordia-Portland on a weekend where the temp hit over 100. Only Emil Jaech still had his tie on throughout.

  • Carl Vehse

    Wyldeirishman,

    I was a NW District convention delegate in 1980 and warned even then by my dad in St. Louis about their liberal “loosey-goosey” ways. That was the year the convention was held in the un-A/C gymnasium at Concordia-Portland on a weekend where the temp hit over 100. Only Emil Jaech still had his tie on throughout.

  • Jon

    And my comments about his innocence and mental health pertained to his legal culpability. There’s much we don’t know, even though too many have already made up their minds.

    Shouldn’t we be praying for this man?

  • Jon

    And my comments about his innocence and mental health pertained to his legal culpability. There’s much we don’t know, even though too many have already made up their minds.

    Shouldn’t we be praying for this man?

  • Carl Vehse

    The latest twist on the Islamo-attack at Fort Hood is that Sgt. Kimberly Munley may have missed Hasan in returning fire as she herself was shot repeatedly by Hasan, and that it was her partner, Senior Sgt. Mark Todd, who rounded the corner of a building to see Munley seriously wounded and then fired at Hasan, taking him down.

    Forensic ballistics will eventually tell if either or both put a total of four bullets into Hasan.

  • Carl Vehse

    The latest twist on the Islamo-attack at Fort Hood is that Sgt. Kimberly Munley may have missed Hasan in returning fire as she herself was shot repeatedly by Hasan, and that it was her partner, Senior Sgt. Mark Todd, who rounded the corner of a building to see Munley seriously wounded and then fired at Hasan, taking him down.

    Forensic ballistics will eventually tell if either or both put a total of four bullets into Hasan.

  • Wyldeirishman

    #20)

    Making up one’s mind based on what IS definitely known is not the same as deciding based upon conjecture and hearsay.

    Praying for Maj. Hasan is likewise not something that we ought to do INSTEAD of rendering a thoughtful and correct judgment/opinion.

    In other words, it’s not an ‘either/or’ proposition.

    Is it?

  • Wyldeirishman

    #20)

    Making up one’s mind based on what IS definitely known is not the same as deciding based upon conjecture and hearsay.

    Praying for Maj. Hasan is likewise not something that we ought to do INSTEAD of rendering a thoughtful and correct judgment/opinion.

    In other words, it’s not an ‘either/or’ proposition.

    Is it?

  • Wyldeirishman

    #19)

    Things have not improved with time.

  • Wyldeirishman

    #19)

    Things have not improved with time.

  • Peter Leavitt

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this was an evil terrorist act. The evidence being simply that he prefaced the massacre with “Allahu Akbar”, that he made frequent statements to his colleagues opposing American action in the war against the Jihadis, and that he was in extensive E-mail contact with the radical Islamic cleric, Anwar Al-Awlaki.

    The actually rather few Americans who are in denial about this are the leftists who hold America itself somehow responsible for the evil acts of both the organized and individual terrorists.

    Its time to take the gloves off with these primitive savages

  • Peter Leavitt

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this was an evil terrorist act. The evidence being simply that he prefaced the massacre with “Allahu Akbar”, that he made frequent statements to his colleagues opposing American action in the war against the Jihadis, and that he was in extensive E-mail contact with the radical Islamic cleric, Anwar Al-Awlaki.

    The actually rather few Americans who are in denial about this are the leftists who hold America itself somehow responsible for the evil acts of both the organized and individual terrorists.

    Its time to take the gloves off with these primitive savages

  • Carl Vehse

    The Army will be filing 13 counts of pre-meditated murder against Hasan this afternoon.

    There may be other charges, like the 14th murder charge for the unborn child, as well as charges for wounding the others, weapons and ammunition violations, conduct unbecoming an officer, and littering Fort Hood with spent casings.

    Since the unborn child was a civilian, maybe the State of Texas will get a chance to try Hasan for that murder as well as the attack on Munley, and for hate crimes.

  • Carl Vehse

    The Army will be filing 13 counts of pre-meditated murder against Hasan this afternoon.

    There may be other charges, like the 14th murder charge for the unborn child, as well as charges for wounding the others, weapons and ammunition violations, conduct unbecoming an officer, and littering Fort Hood with spent casings.

    Since the unborn child was a civilian, maybe the State of Texas will get a chance to try Hasan for that murder as well as the attack on Munley, and for hate crimes.

  • Carl Vehse

    Article III. Section. 3. “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort”

    One would think there has been sufficient evidence to at least charge Hasan with adhering.

  • Carl Vehse

    Article III. Section. 3. “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort”

    One would think there has been sufficient evidence to at least charge Hasan with adhering.

  • Wyldeirishman

    #24)

    Careful, Peter…lest you incur the wrath of those who believe that such designations as ‘primitive’ and ‘savage’ should apply to all of us as well.

    Besides, the Maj. was probably just another in a long line of adherents that simply ‘misunderstood’ his faith.

    Right?

  • Wyldeirishman

    #24)

    Careful, Peter…lest you incur the wrath of those who believe that such designations as ‘primitive’ and ‘savage’ should apply to all of us as well.

    Besides, the Maj. was probably just another in a long line of adherents that simply ‘misunderstood’ his faith.

    Right?

  • Carl Vehse

    In what may be a coincidentally related news story to the Islamoterrorist attack on Fort Hood, the LA Times noted in an article, “Feds move to seize 4 mosques, skyscraper owned by foundation linked to Iranian government”:

    “In what could prove to be one of the biggest counterterrorism seizures in U.S. history, prosecutors filed a civil complaint in federal court seeking the forfeiture of more than $500 million in assets of the Alavi Foundation and an alleged front company.

    “It is extremely rare for U.S. law enforcement authorities to seize a house of worship, a step fraught with questions about the First Amendment right to freedom of religion.

    “The action against the Shiite Muslim mosques is sure to inflame relations between the U.S. government and American Muslims, many of whom are fearful of a backlash after last week’s Fort Hood shooting rampage, blamed on a Muslim American soldier.

    “There were no raids Thursday as part of the forfeiture action. The government is simply required to post notices of the civil complaint on the property.”

  • Carl Vehse

    In what may be a coincidentally related news story to the Islamoterrorist attack on Fort Hood, the LA Times noted in an article, “Feds move to seize 4 mosques, skyscraper owned by foundation linked to Iranian government”:

    “In what could prove to be one of the biggest counterterrorism seizures in U.S. history, prosecutors filed a civil complaint in federal court seeking the forfeiture of more than $500 million in assets of the Alavi Foundation and an alleged front company.

    “It is extremely rare for U.S. law enforcement authorities to seize a house of worship, a step fraught with questions about the First Amendment right to freedom of religion.

    “The action against the Shiite Muslim mosques is sure to inflame relations between the U.S. government and American Muslims, many of whom are fearful of a backlash after last week’s Fort Hood shooting rampage, blamed on a Muslim American soldier.

    “There were no raids Thursday as part of the forfeiture action. The government is simply required to post notices of the civil complaint on the property.”

  • gsheill

    The atmosphere in most education is to tolerate deviant views unless their are verbal threats to staff.

    Dr. Mark Gabriel, Ph. D. writes how he tried to ask questions of colleagues about contradictions in Islamic teaching at the esteemed University in Cairo, Al-Azhar. He was a professor of Islamic History and an Imam. Did his peers tolerate his questions? No! They reported him and so begins a journey worth reading in his “Islam and Terrorism”.

    If more of the professional class in this country was required to read this for a basic ethics or philosphy course, the power of the Worldwide Um ma that is trans national would explain Major Hasan’s inability to divide his loyalty to America or the brotherhood.

    Sadly, this will complicate gaining information about sleeper cells in this country.

  • gsheill

    The atmosphere in most education is to tolerate deviant views unless their are verbal threats to staff.

    Dr. Mark Gabriel, Ph. D. writes how he tried to ask questions of colleagues about contradictions in Islamic teaching at the esteemed University in Cairo, Al-Azhar. He was a professor of Islamic History and an Imam. Did his peers tolerate his questions? No! They reported him and so begins a journey worth reading in his “Islam and Terrorism”.

    If more of the professional class in this country was required to read this for a basic ethics or philosphy course, the power of the Worldwide Um ma that is trans national would explain Major Hasan’s inability to divide his loyalty to America or the brotherhood.

    Sadly, this will complicate gaining information about sleeper cells in this country.

  • Peter Leavitt

    Wyldeirishman, pardon the “old-fashioned” distinction between primitive savages and civilized folk. I realize that to become politically correct one must view Hasan’s indiscretion as within bounds of an understandable reaction to the oppression of innocent Islamics. I’m trying to get with the program with the help of Jon and FWS; this will take time.

    Meanwhile, may the primitive savages roast in Hades.

  • Peter Leavitt

    Wyldeirishman, pardon the “old-fashioned” distinction between primitive savages and civilized folk. I realize that to become politically correct one must view Hasan’s indiscretion as within bounds of an understandable reaction to the oppression of innocent Islamics. I’m trying to get with the program with the help of Jon and FWS; this will take time.

    Meanwhile, may the primitive savages roast in Hades.

  • Jon

    Peter, open the gospels and acquaint yourself with Christ.

  • Jon

    Peter, open the gospels and acquaint yourself with Christ.

  • http://barrybishop.blogspot.com/ Barry D. Bishop

    Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist, so why can we can we not labe Maj. Hasan a terrorist if the label actually fits?

    Does the word “truth” even mean anything anymore? Or will we believe anything but it?

  • http://barrybishop.blogspot.com/ Barry D. Bishop

    Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist, so why can we can we not labe Maj. Hasan a terrorist if the label actually fits?

    Does the word “truth” even mean anything anymore? Or will we believe anything but it?

  • Wyldeirishman

    #28)

    There it is AGAIN: “blamed on a Muslim American soldier.” It practically drips with the suggestion that the ‘blame’ is merely that. Again, I beg of you: who else do they have in mind? Wishing that it were not a Muslim will not make it so.

    Wake up.

    #31)

    “In Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female.”

    Accounting one as a child of God does not, in any way, prohibit the labels ‘primitive’ and ‘savage’ from being utilized. In fact, I’ve been known to be a bit savage myself, on occasion :) How about ‘heathen?’ Is that also out-of-bounds because it makes people uncomfortable by the very act of categorization?

    Why not? Is it somehow un-loving to designate the unconverted as such, or is it merely a factual statement? I’ll grant you, I desire the death and damnation of no one (read that again, for emphasis), but there remain those that will not allow for any other alternative. If God derives no pleasure from the deaths of the wicked, then neither do I.

    But, as I’ve said before, that does not rule out relief at their absence, while simultaneously lamenting their damnation.

    Welcome to the human experience, post-Genesis 3.

    Christ, have mercy…

  • Wyldeirishman

    #28)

    There it is AGAIN: “blamed on a Muslim American soldier.” It practically drips with the suggestion that the ‘blame’ is merely that. Again, I beg of you: who else do they have in mind? Wishing that it were not a Muslim will not make it so.

    Wake up.

    #31)

    “In Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female.”

    Accounting one as a child of God does not, in any way, prohibit the labels ‘primitive’ and ‘savage’ from being utilized. In fact, I’ve been known to be a bit savage myself, on occasion :) How about ‘heathen?’ Is that also out-of-bounds because it makes people uncomfortable by the very act of categorization?

    Why not? Is it somehow un-loving to designate the unconverted as such, or is it merely a factual statement? I’ll grant you, I desire the death and damnation of no one (read that again, for emphasis), but there remain those that will not allow for any other alternative. If God derives no pleasure from the deaths of the wicked, then neither do I.

    But, as I’ve said before, that does not rule out relief at their absence, while simultaneously lamenting their damnation.

    Welcome to the human experience, post-Genesis 3.

    Christ, have mercy…

  • http://watersblogged.blogspot.com Rev, Robert Waters

    Carl, mental illness is not a crime.

  • http://watersblogged.blogspot.com Rev, Robert Waters

    Carl, mental illness is not a crime.

  • Carl Vehse

    I didn’t state that mental illness is a crime.

  • Carl Vehse

    I didn’t state that mental illness is a crime.

  • Carl Vehse

    It’s now out in the open that in addition to the military trial for Islamoterrorist, Nidal Hasan, the Zerobama Maladministration and its conflict-of-interest-ridden AG Eric Holder plan to bring 9/11 Islamoterrorist mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed to New York City for a civilian trial.

    In her column, “Bombshell: Obama bringing KSM to NYC for trial” Michelle Malkin notes the DOD’s Victim Witness Program’s pre-announcement of the planned trial, and a response by a brother of a fireman killed on 9/11 by Islamoterrorists:

    “We have an announcement as well: we will fight with every remaining breath in our bodies both their bringing KSM and the rest of the 9/11 conspirators to federal courtrooms within walking distance of where they slaughtered our loved ones. And whomever finds Manhattan’s federal courthouse near Ground Zero a ‘sentimental favorite’ for the 9/11 trials is a damn fool and they ALL ought to be fired. Pass that message on, far, wide, and up and down the chain-of-command.”

  • Carl Vehse

    It’s now out in the open that in addition to the military trial for Islamoterrorist, Nidal Hasan, the Zerobama Maladministration and its conflict-of-interest-ridden AG Eric Holder plan to bring 9/11 Islamoterrorist mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed to New York City for a civilian trial.

    In her column, “Bombshell: Obama bringing KSM to NYC for trial” Michelle Malkin notes the DOD’s Victim Witness Program’s pre-announcement of the planned trial, and a response by a brother of a fireman killed on 9/11 by Islamoterrorists:

    “We have an announcement as well: we will fight with every remaining breath in our bodies both their bringing KSM and the rest of the 9/11 conspirators to federal courtrooms within walking distance of where they slaughtered our loved ones. And whomever finds Manhattan’s federal courthouse near Ground Zero a ‘sentimental favorite’ for the 9/11 trials is a damn fool and they ALL ought to be fired. Pass that message on, far, wide, and up and down the chain-of-command.”

  • Carl Vehse

    There is a real possibility that Khalid Sheik Mohammed could be freed on any of several technicalities. By granting him a civilian trial, Mohammed has all the rights (e.g., the 4th, 5th, and 8th Amendments) of a defendent in such a trial, and his lawyers will no doubt bring up the lack of a speedy trial after being held in custody for years, not to mention waterboarding, and other interrogations he has been subjected to without a lawyer allowed to be present.

    Also, a very large part of the security (and financial) burden will be placed on NYPD during the trial. Security will be needed for the courtroom location, the judge, lawyers, jury, court staff, and all of their families and close relatives, and to prevent an increased probability of any terrorist activity in NY.

    This is in addition to the media clymer circus, along with protestors on both or more sides, that will turn the trial into a daily publicity diversion for any other POTUS or Polosi FUBARs back in DC.

    If anything hits the fan, NY will take the blame. If everything were to go okay, the 0bamassiah will claim the credit.

  • Carl Vehse

    There is a real possibility that Khalid Sheik Mohammed could be freed on any of several technicalities. By granting him a civilian trial, Mohammed has all the rights (e.g., the 4th, 5th, and 8th Amendments) of a defendent in such a trial, and his lawyers will no doubt bring up the lack of a speedy trial after being held in custody for years, not to mention waterboarding, and other interrogations he has been subjected to without a lawyer allowed to be present.

    Also, a very large part of the security (and financial) burden will be placed on NYPD during the trial. Security will be needed for the courtroom location, the judge, lawyers, jury, court staff, and all of their families and close relatives, and to prevent an increased probability of any terrorist activity in NY.

    This is in addition to the media clymer circus, along with protestors on both or more sides, that will turn the trial into a daily publicity diversion for any other POTUS or Polosi FUBARs back in DC.

    If anything hits the fan, NY will take the blame. If everything were to go okay, the 0bamassiah will claim the credit.

  • Wyldeirishman

    I think the lawyers need waterboarded.

  • Wyldeirishman

    I think the lawyers need waterboarded.

  • Carl Vehse
  • Carl Vehse
  • Carl Vehse

    What a nincompoop!

  • Carl Vehse

    What a nincompoop!

  • Carl Vehse

    From the December 3rd National Review Online, “Somebody at Fort Hood Should Be Walking the Plank”:

    It’s been brought to my attention by several reliable sources that the Defense Department has brought Louay Safi to Fort Hood as an instructor, and that he has been lecturing on Islam to our troops in Fort Hood who are about to deploy to Afghanistan. Safi is a top official of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and served as research director at the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT).

    Worse, last evening, Safi was apparently permitted to present a check (evidently on behalf of ISNA) to the families of the victims of last month’s Fort Hood massacre. A military source told the blogger Barbarossa at the Jawa Report: ‘This is nothing short of blood money. This is criminal and the Ft. Hood base commander should be fired right now.’

    ISNA was identified by the Justice Department at the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing conspiracy trial as an unindicted co-conspirator.

    If the activities of Safi at Foot Hood are confirmed, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, as the Fort Hood commander, should be stripped of his stars, reduced to E-1, and join Private George Casey in cleaning latrines with a toothbrush at the Walter Reed Medical Center Diarrhea Ward.

  • Carl Vehse

    From the December 3rd National Review Online, “Somebody at Fort Hood Should Be Walking the Plank”:

    It’s been brought to my attention by several reliable sources that the Defense Department has brought Louay Safi to Fort Hood as an instructor, and that he has been lecturing on Islam to our troops in Fort Hood who are about to deploy to Afghanistan. Safi is a top official of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and served as research director at the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT).

    Worse, last evening, Safi was apparently permitted to present a check (evidently on behalf of ISNA) to the families of the victims of last month’s Fort Hood massacre. A military source told the blogger Barbarossa at the Jawa Report: ‘This is nothing short of blood money. This is criminal and the Ft. Hood base commander should be fired right now.’

    ISNA was identified by the Justice Department at the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing conspiracy trial as an unindicted co-conspirator.

    If the activities of Safi at Foot Hood are confirmed, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, as the Fort Hood commander, should be stripped of his stars, reduced to E-1, and join Private George Casey in cleaning latrines with a toothbrush at the Walter Reed Medical Center Diarrhea Ward.


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