Iran’s February 11 surprise

Iranian leaders are promising something that will stun the world on February 11:

Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Monday that Iran is set to deliver a “punch” that will stun world powers during this week’s 31st anniversary of the Islamic revolution.

“The Iranian nation, with its unity and God’s grace, will punch the arrogance (Western powers) on the 22nd of Bahman (February 11) in a way that will leave them stunned,” Khamenei, who is also Iran's commander-in-chief, told a gathering of air force personnel.

via Iran anniversary ‘punch’ will stun West: Khamenei.

What do you think it will be?

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  • http://www.doxoblogy.com Jeremy Weaver

    A new fruity drink?

    How about a nice ‘Iranian Punch’?

  • http://www.doxoblogy.com Jeremy Weaver

    A new fruity drink?

    How about a nice ‘Iranian Punch’?

  • http://www.cyberbrethren.com Rev. Paul T. McCain

    They will test a nuclear weapon.

  • http://www.cyberbrethren.com Rev. Paul T. McCain

    They will test a nuclear weapon.

  • http://brbible.org/from-rich Rich Shipe

    Nice Jeremy. :)

  • http://brbible.org/from-rich Rich Shipe

    Nice Jeremy. :)

  • Joe

    I think they will put a person into space. They have been working on a space program for a while.

  • Joe

    I think they will put a person into space. They have been working on a space program for a while.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-27802-Televangelism--Pop-Christianity-Examiner Bob Hunter

    A mass conversion to Christianity? Nah!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-27802-Televangelism--Pop-Christianity-Examiner Bob Hunter

    A mass conversion to Christianity? Nah!

  • WebMonk

    Joe, they claim to have already put some animals in space, but I’m thinking a person into space is a bit much, unless they do a ballistic-style shot up and down.

    My guess is a nuclear test. We’ll see if it goes off as planned.

  • WebMonk

    Joe, they claim to have already put some animals in space, but I’m thinking a person into space is a bit much, unless they do a ballistic-style shot up and down.

    My guess is a nuclear test. We’ll see if it goes off as planned.

  • Joe

    WebMonk @ 6 “but I’m thinking a person into space is a bit much, unless they do a ballistic-style shot up and down.”

    That is kind of what I was thinking they would do.

  • Joe

    WebMonk @ 6 “but I’m thinking a person into space is a bit much, unless they do a ballistic-style shot up and down.”

    That is kind of what I was thinking they would do.

  • Cincinnatus

    Iran’s sending a human into space would be singularly unimpressive because its people are starving and oppressed. The glory of the American success was that we boasted abundant material prosperity with enough surplus power and resources to conquer the moon itself.

    That said, I’m guessing we will see an attempt at a nuclear test. Israel, however, has already stated that it will not allow Iran to test a nuclear weapon. Thus, something will happen on Thursday, but it may not be what we expect.

  • Cincinnatus

    Iran’s sending a human into space would be singularly unimpressive because its people are starving and oppressed. The glory of the American success was that we boasted abundant material prosperity with enough surplus power and resources to conquer the moon itself.

    That said, I’m guessing we will see an attempt at a nuclear test. Israel, however, has already stated that it will not allow Iran to test a nuclear weapon. Thus, something will happen on Thursday, but it may not be what we expect.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    I pray to God it isn’t a nuclear weapon.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    I pray to God it isn’t a nuclear weapon.

  • Bryan Lindemood

    They and Obama need a good pretext for an U.S. invasion. Then we can pour trillions of dollars we don’t have into their economy. The perfect foil!

  • Bryan Lindemood

    They and Obama need a good pretext for an U.S. invasion. Then we can pour trillions of dollars we don’t have into their economy. The perfect foil!

  • Cincinnatus

    I’m about to say something remarkably revolutionary here (but something that would have been much more commonly held in previous decades): I don’t care if it is a nuclear weapon. Iran doesn’t have the capability to construct ICBMs and never will. I don’t care about Israel, Saudi Arabia, or half of Europe. We don’t need to subsidize the defense of the world.

    Israel is the only nation truly threatened by this, and Israel is more than capable of taking care of these problems. This whole situation demonstrates the consequences of “entangling alliances.”

  • Cincinnatus

    I’m about to say something remarkably revolutionary here (but something that would have been much more commonly held in previous decades): I don’t care if it is a nuclear weapon. Iran doesn’t have the capability to construct ICBMs and never will. I don’t care about Israel, Saudi Arabia, or half of Europe. We don’t need to subsidize the defense of the world.

    Israel is the only nation truly threatened by this, and Israel is more than capable of taking care of these problems. This whole situation demonstrates the consequences of “entangling alliances.”

  • http://www.redeemedrambling.blogspot.com/ John

    You know, I sort of have to agree with Cincinnatus. I would only add three words – “Big Stick Policy”.

  • http://www.redeemedrambling.blogspot.com/ John

    You know, I sort of have to agree with Cincinnatus. I would only add three words – “Big Stick Policy”.

  • Joe

    Cincy – how is it that they can send animals into space but you think they can’t build a missile capable of sending a warhead into US territory. I understand it is not the exact same thing but the technologies are not so vastly difference as to not indicate a level of sophistication that should not be overlooked. They chosen to spend money on missile and fissile (l made that up myself). They will work toward that goal and I think it is foolish to assume that they won’t succeed.

  • Joe

    Cincy – how is it that they can send animals into space but you think they can’t build a missile capable of sending a warhead into US territory. I understand it is not the exact same thing but the technologies are not so vastly difference as to not indicate a level of sophistication that should not be overlooked. They chosen to spend money on missile and fissile (l made that up myself). They will work toward that goal and I think it is foolish to assume that they won’t succeed.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    I can’t agree with you Cincinnatus. Sorry. But you see all politics aside, I have a general love for humanity. I have a general love for all those people within and without the borders of the United States for whom Christ died. And perhaps we don’t need to “subsidize” the defence of the world, though I think there is good reason to do so. But my love for the Iranian people and the people of Israel, says please Lord, don’t let them have a nuclear bomb.
    And who says they need to develop ICBMS themselves?

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    I can’t agree with you Cincinnatus. Sorry. But you see all politics aside, I have a general love for humanity. I have a general love for all those people within and without the borders of the United States for whom Christ died. And perhaps we don’t need to “subsidize” the defence of the world, though I think there is good reason to do so. But my love for the Iranian people and the people of Israel, says please Lord, don’t let them have a nuclear bomb.
    And who says they need to develop ICBMS themselves?

  • Cincinnatus

    Fine, Bror, but that’s an entirely different argument than I was making. I would feel terrible if Iran launched a nuclear weapon at Tel Aviv (though I can almost guarantee that such an attempt would never succeed). But my feelings here do not dictate that I should subsidize Israel’s defense with my tax dollars, nor that I should be panicked as a cabal consisting of Iranian leaders and the sensational media would like me to be.

    As for whether they can build ICBMs: ICBMs are extraordinarily more complex than the machinery needed to launch a cat into space. I am not worried about this possibility because Israel will not let that happen. That is another thing I can almost guarantee. The only reason Iran still boasts nuclear facilities rather than smoldering craters is because the United States has been strongly discouraging Israel from taking military action (and, to be fair, a preemptive strike by Israel would be a massive diplomatic mess for the United States).

  • Cincinnatus

    Fine, Bror, but that’s an entirely different argument than I was making. I would feel terrible if Iran launched a nuclear weapon at Tel Aviv (though I can almost guarantee that such an attempt would never succeed). But my feelings here do not dictate that I should subsidize Israel’s defense with my tax dollars, nor that I should be panicked as a cabal consisting of Iranian leaders and the sensational media would like me to be.

    As for whether they can build ICBMs: ICBMs are extraordinarily more complex than the machinery needed to launch a cat into space. I am not worried about this possibility because Israel will not let that happen. That is another thing I can almost guarantee. The only reason Iran still boasts nuclear facilities rather than smoldering craters is because the United States has been strongly discouraging Israel from taking military action (and, to be fair, a preemptive strike by Israel would be a massive diplomatic mess for the United States).

  • CJB

    I would not be surprised if they attempted to take out a number of key satellites using the “space technology”.

  • CJB

    I would not be surprised if they attempted to take out a number of key satellites using the “space technology”.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    We tried you isolationism more than once Cincinatus. You think you can just ignore the bully as long as he isn’t bullying you. But the bully turns, and those he bullied get behind him when he comes for you. Because you didn’t have the decency to do what you should have done before. Yes we tried that approach it got us, pearl harbor, it got us 9/11. We let Hitler do what Hitler wanted, then it got to the point where we had to do something. And if we had done something early on, well a stitch in time saves 9.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    We tried you isolationism more than once Cincinatus. You think you can just ignore the bully as long as he isn’t bullying you. But the bully turns, and those he bullied get behind him when he comes for you. Because you didn’t have the decency to do what you should have done before. Yes we tried that approach it got us, pearl harbor, it got us 9/11. We let Hitler do what Hitler wanted, then it got to the point where we had to do something. And if we had done something early on, well a stitch in time saves 9.

  • Cincinnatus

    Well, this argument could obviously devolve into a shouting fest of infinite regress, but I’ll try anyway:

    -We got Pearl Harbor because we insisted upon assisting the Chinese prior to WWII and because we placed an oil embargo upon Japan.

    -We got Hitler because Woodrow Wilson lied and insisted upon sending an expeditionary force to Europe, assuming leadership of the allied war effort in WWI, and levying extremely harsh sanctions upon Germany which directly caused economic desperation and a turn to Hitler.

    And don’t forget! The current regime in Iran is _directly_ the fault of American intervention in the 1970s when we refused to support pro-Western leaders.

    Isolationism has yet to cause us any problems; entangling alliances and ideological conflicts have caused most of our problems. But of course, this macro-debate is slightly beside the point: I still don’t care if Iran is able to construct a shoddy, mid-range nuclear warhead that will be more than likely incapable of hitting its target. As if the effort will continue: the Iranian population is increasingly pro-Western, pro-democratic, and anti-nuclear weapons. Their economy is crumbling, and they are not particularly happy that a substantial portion of their GDP is being absorbed by a nuclear program that is completely and utterly pointless.

  • Cincinnatus

    Well, this argument could obviously devolve into a shouting fest of infinite regress, but I’ll try anyway:

    -We got Pearl Harbor because we insisted upon assisting the Chinese prior to WWII and because we placed an oil embargo upon Japan.

    -We got Hitler because Woodrow Wilson lied and insisted upon sending an expeditionary force to Europe, assuming leadership of the allied war effort in WWI, and levying extremely harsh sanctions upon Germany which directly caused economic desperation and a turn to Hitler.

    And don’t forget! The current regime in Iran is _directly_ the fault of American intervention in the 1970s when we refused to support pro-Western leaders.

    Isolationism has yet to cause us any problems; entangling alliances and ideological conflicts have caused most of our problems. But of course, this macro-debate is slightly beside the point: I still don’t care if Iran is able to construct a shoddy, mid-range nuclear warhead that will be more than likely incapable of hitting its target. As if the effort will continue: the Iranian population is increasingly pro-Western, pro-democratic, and anti-nuclear weapons. Their economy is crumbling, and they are not particularly happy that a substantial portion of their GDP is being absorbed by a nuclear program that is completely and utterly pointless.

  • Joe

    Cincy @ 15″I am not worried about this possibility because Israel will not let that happen.” That makes sense to me; I agree with that. Unless ofcourse we pressure Isreal out of doing the necessary work to prevent it.

    “And don’t forget! The current regime in Iran is _directly_ the fault of American intervention in the 1970s when we refused to support pro-Western leaders. ”

    So refusing to intervene to stop the revolution and prop up the Shah IS intervention. With logic like that how can you ever lose this debate.

  • Joe

    Cincy @ 15″I am not worried about this possibility because Israel will not let that happen.” That makes sense to me; I agree with that. Unless ofcourse we pressure Isreal out of doing the necessary work to prevent it.

    “And don’t forget! The current regime in Iran is _directly_ the fault of American intervention in the 1970s when we refused to support pro-Western leaders. ”

    So refusing to intervene to stop the revolution and prop up the Shah IS intervention. With logic like that how can you ever lose this debate.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    Well I suppose you can go on not caring Cincinnatus. I will not be able to divest you of your notion that this will have no effect on you, and that you really shouldn’t care about the annihilation of people you don’t know whose only crime happens to be that they are Jewish. But I suspect you will change your mind when and if it happens.
    You are probably right anyway. We shouldn’t care. We shouldn’t care about the people in Haiti. We shouldn’t care about the people of southern Sudan. We shouldn’t care about Rwanda, or Zimbabwe. We shouldn’t care about anyone but our rich fat selves, and let the rest of the world just fall to anarchy, or brutal dictatorships. Let them dig themselves out of their own messes, clean up their own disasters, we don’t need them. But I for one am glad the French didn’t have the same ideals in the 18th century.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    Well I suppose you can go on not caring Cincinnatus. I will not be able to divest you of your notion that this will have no effect on you, and that you really shouldn’t care about the annihilation of people you don’t know whose only crime happens to be that they are Jewish. But I suspect you will change your mind when and if it happens.
    You are probably right anyway. We shouldn’t care. We shouldn’t care about the people in Haiti. We shouldn’t care about the people of southern Sudan. We shouldn’t care about Rwanda, or Zimbabwe. We shouldn’t care about anyone but our rich fat selves, and let the rest of the world just fall to anarchy, or brutal dictatorships. Let them dig themselves out of their own messes, clean up their own disasters, we don’t need them. But I for one am glad the French didn’t have the same ideals in the 18th century.

  • Cincinnatus

    “rich fat selves”: huh, last I checked, the United States was approximately 13 trillion dollars in debt. That’s what happens when you think caring for people involves divesting your public treasury on them.

    /I have no qualms regarding private charity. If you care about Haiti, about Zimbabwe, about Rwanda, donate and/or volunteer for organizations designed to do just that. As for public money, empires throughout history have learned the hard way that intervention–whether it be for national interests, for expansion, or for “helping out” in humanitarian causes–is perhaps the fastest way to achieve bankruptcy. Notice that yours i s the same logic employed to justify social security, medicare, and welfare in general–other good ways to achieve bankruptcy internally.

    Joe: preceding the Revolution and our lack of support for pro-Western leaders was our decided intervention in favor of destabilizing various dictators such as Mossadeq in 1953, inspiring the general instability of the Iranian regime. After that, America made a habit of aiding the brutal Shah. Carter’s sudden decision to revoke this support eventually plunged Iran into chaos. I think my point is still valid.

  • Cincinnatus

    “rich fat selves”: huh, last I checked, the United States was approximately 13 trillion dollars in debt. That’s what happens when you think caring for people involves divesting your public treasury on them.

    /I have no qualms regarding private charity. If you care about Haiti, about Zimbabwe, about Rwanda, donate and/or volunteer for organizations designed to do just that. As for public money, empires throughout history have learned the hard way that intervention–whether it be for national interests, for expansion, or for “helping out” in humanitarian causes–is perhaps the fastest way to achieve bankruptcy. Notice that yours i s the same logic employed to justify social security, medicare, and welfare in general–other good ways to achieve bankruptcy internally.

    Joe: preceding the Revolution and our lack of support for pro-Western leaders was our decided intervention in favor of destabilizing various dictators such as Mossadeq in 1953, inspiring the general instability of the Iranian regime. After that, America made a habit of aiding the brutal Shah. Carter’s sudden decision to revoke this support eventually plunged Iran into chaos. I think my point is still valid.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    I think that the story empires have learned throughout history, of which I have read quite extensively enough not to buy into the popular notions you espouse, is that ignoring the world and focusing on themselves becomes their downfall.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    I think that the story empires have learned throughout history, of which I have read quite extensively enough not to buy into the popular notions you espouse, is that ignoring the world and focusing on themselves becomes their downfall.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Frankly, at this point, a nuclear test would not “leave [us] stunned” — we’re all expecting it. So it can’t be that. And while a man in space would be interesting, it would not — given Iran’s previous mammalian forays into space — be stunning, either.

    I’m thinking it’s a new tablet computing device. Runs on 3G and 4G networks, 1280×1024 resolution, 500GB solid-state disk, and it runs Windows. All for $299. Now that would be stunning.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Frankly, at this point, a nuclear test would not “leave [us] stunned” — we’re all expecting it. So it can’t be that. And while a man in space would be interesting, it would not — given Iran’s previous mammalian forays into space — be stunning, either.

    I’m thinking it’s a new tablet computing device. Runs on 3G and 4G networks, 1280×1024 resolution, 500GB solid-state disk, and it runs Windows. All for $299. Now that would be stunning.

  • DonS

    It seems as if he kind of painted himself into a corner with the choice of words “stunning” and a specific date. However, isn’t it better to surprise your enemy if you plan to attack them? My guess is either they do something Feb. 10, or this will be a big nothing, and he’ll claim the joke was on us for taking all these precautions for naught.

  • DonS

    It seems as if he kind of painted himself into a corner with the choice of words “stunning” and a specific date. However, isn’t it better to surprise your enemy if you plan to attack them? My guess is either they do something Feb. 10, or this will be a big nothing, and he’ll claim the joke was on us for taking all these precautions for naught.

  • Joe

    Maybe he is going to renounce the koran and be baptized. That would be stunning.

  • Joe

    Maybe he is going to renounce the koran and be baptized. That would be stunning.

  • Wyldeirishman

    Standing with Israel militarily should only become necessary if several countries attempt to dog-pile on her simultaneously.

    Barring that, Israel is MORE than capable of adequately defending herself (which includes their lethal preemptive strike capability).

    I would much rather see this than sitting by and allowing wholesale nuclear (or conventional) slaughter. This is not about settlements, or about repression of the Palestinian people ™, both real and imagined, or even about previous acts by previous administrations of previous countries; listen to any (Weird) Al-Quaida crackpot and they’re STILL rambling about the fall of the Ottoman Turks, so paltry modern international offenses are merely a convenient tool (like the Iranian president himself) to stir up anti-Western sentiment…which has never, ever been difficult to do in that half of the globe.

    This is about preventing the extermination of an entire country.

    Not about whether or not we love our neighbors enough to stand idly by and watch them be destroyed.

    There are no happy solutions here. Just necessary ones.

  • Wyldeirishman

    Standing with Israel militarily should only become necessary if several countries attempt to dog-pile on her simultaneously.

    Barring that, Israel is MORE than capable of adequately defending herself (which includes their lethal preemptive strike capability).

    I would much rather see this than sitting by and allowing wholesale nuclear (or conventional) slaughter. This is not about settlements, or about repression of the Palestinian people ™, both real and imagined, or even about previous acts by previous administrations of previous countries; listen to any (Weird) Al-Quaida crackpot and they’re STILL rambling about the fall of the Ottoman Turks, so paltry modern international offenses are merely a convenient tool (like the Iranian president himself) to stir up anti-Western sentiment…which has never, ever been difficult to do in that half of the globe.

    This is about preventing the extermination of an entire country.

    Not about whether or not we love our neighbors enough to stand idly by and watch them be destroyed.

    There are no happy solutions here. Just necessary ones.

  • Jonathan

    Maybe they will get one of their old F-14 Tomcats back in the air . Hopefully, it isn’t carrying a nuclear warhead in a Phoenix missile.

  • Jonathan

    Maybe they will get one of their old F-14 Tomcats back in the air . Hopefully, it isn’t carrying a nuclear warhead in a Phoenix missile.

  • Rev. F. Bischoff

    A really big pig roast followed by a wet burka contest.

  • Rev. F. Bischoff

    A really big pig roast followed by a wet burka contest.

  • Cincinnatus

    Maybe Iran will shut the heck up and behave like a normal nation.

    And Bror, my notions of imperial decay are only “popular” (i.e., pedestrian and devoid of nuance, if I am interpreting you correctly) if Gibbons, et al., are “popular”: most speculate that Rome, for instance, fell because of monetary problems, decadence, and–believe it or not!–overexpansion and overextension (amongst other factors). The latter is also true of the British Empire (the loss of Singapore, Suez, and India speak not only to an unwillingness, but also an inability to maintain empire and the treasury simultaneously). But again, this is far off topic.

    Good intentions, when imposed upon the national budget, are always, always eventually disastrous, whether the intention is public housing or foreign aid and military commitments.

  • Cincinnatus

    Maybe Iran will shut the heck up and behave like a normal nation.

    And Bror, my notions of imperial decay are only “popular” (i.e., pedestrian and devoid of nuance, if I am interpreting you correctly) if Gibbons, et al., are “popular”: most speculate that Rome, for instance, fell because of monetary problems, decadence, and–believe it or not!–overexpansion and overextension (amongst other factors). The latter is also true of the British Empire (the loss of Singapore, Suez, and India speak not only to an unwillingness, but also an inability to maintain empire and the treasury simultaneously). But again, this is far off topic.

    Good intentions, when imposed upon the national budget, are always, always eventually disastrous, whether the intention is public housing or foreign aid and military commitments.

  • Bryan Lindemood

    Nearly as stunning as Christian baptism would be an old fashioned circumcision – yessirree. Or would “stunning” then be an understatement?

  • Bryan Lindemood

    Nearly as stunning as Christian baptism would be an old fashioned circumcision – yessirree. Or would “stunning” then be an understatement?

  • Cincinnatus

    Also, Iran is too broke and unstable to “annihilate a nation,” so let’s not go down that road. They can barely put a small mammal past the stratosphere.

  • Cincinnatus

    Also, Iran is too broke and unstable to “annihilate a nation,” so let’s not go down that road. They can barely put a small mammal past the stratosphere.

  • Jonathan

    If it is Ahmadinijad who is going to be their astronaut, so much the better!

    However, if it is a muclear test, let’s hope it’s not a a suitcase bomb or one stowed in a shipping container or an oil tanker.

  • Jonathan

    If it is Ahmadinijad who is going to be their astronaut, so much the better!

    However, if it is a muclear test, let’s hope it’s not a a suitcase bomb or one stowed in a shipping container or an oil tanker.

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  • WebMonk

    Right on tODD! That would be amazing!!!! Here’s to hoping we find something “amazing” that Iran has produced!!

  • WebMonk

    Right on tODD! That would be amazing!!!! Here’s to hoping we find something “amazing” that Iran has produced!!

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    Cincinattus,
    I seem to remember from history lessons a very poor and unstable nation with runaway inflation, perhaps at the time even poorer than Iran, that somehow found the capability of conquering most of Continental Europe, and large swaths of North Africa, even finding a way to make war somewhat profitable.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    Cincinattus,
    I seem to remember from history lessons a very poor and unstable nation with runaway inflation, perhaps at the time even poorer than Iran, that somehow found the capability of conquering most of Continental Europe, and large swaths of North Africa, even finding a way to make war somewhat profitable.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    and if memory serves me right, they did a bang up job in the whole annihilation department too. True not quite successful, but back then there were other countries that kind of cared.

  • http://www.utah-lutheran.blogspot.com Bror Erickson

    and if memory serves me right, they did a bang up job in the whole annihilation department too. True not quite successful, but back then there were other countries that kind of cared.

  • Carl Vehse

    a “punch” that will stun world powers

    Iran will release a copy of Zerobama’s real birth certificate.

  • Carl Vehse

    a “punch” that will stun world powers

    Iran will release a copy of Zerobama’s real birth certificate.

  • Leigh

    Maybe Iran has its own superhackers and will take down the electronic financial system or tank the entire internet. They certainly wouldn’t care but it would be a big pain in the U.S. And no one would be “hurt” so the only response would be to try to fix it fast and get pissy about it. But Wall Street would suffer, certainly, and that would be a big deal, with things as they are.

    Everyone expects a nuclear test of some kind so it will actually be kind of lame if it’s that. It wouldn’t stun anyone unless they actually manage to hit U.S. soil, which isn’t going to happen. I suppose I would find it stunning if they blew themselves up, though.

  • Leigh

    Maybe Iran has its own superhackers and will take down the electronic financial system or tank the entire internet. They certainly wouldn’t care but it would be a big pain in the U.S. And no one would be “hurt” so the only response would be to try to fix it fast and get pissy about it. But Wall Street would suffer, certainly, and that would be a big deal, with things as they are.

    Everyone expects a nuclear test of some kind so it will actually be kind of lame if it’s that. It wouldn’t stun anyone unless they actually manage to hit U.S. soil, which isn’t going to happen. I suppose I would find it stunning if they blew themselves up, though.

  • The Jungle Cat

    Maybe they’ll release an obstruse image of what is presumably a new aircraft which, on further image analysis, will turn out to have been made by Matchbox.

  • The Jungle Cat

    Maybe they’ll release an obstruse image of what is presumably a new aircraft which, on further image analysis, will turn out to have been made by Matchbox.

  • Bruce Gee

    “Isolationism has yet to cause us any problems; entangling alliances and ideological conflicts have caused most of our problems.”

    Cincy: my only question is, how do you know? When was the last time we tried isolationism? And to what extent should it be tried. You can slice that problem a thousand different ways.

    It seems something nuclear has the votes on this blog. I wonder if something “dirty” could be in the works?
    I’d prefer the pig roast and a wet burka-clad dancer jumping out of an enormous cake, but I don’t suppose that is likely.

  • Bruce Gee

    “Isolationism has yet to cause us any problems; entangling alliances and ideological conflicts have caused most of our problems.”

    Cincy: my only question is, how do you know? When was the last time we tried isolationism? And to what extent should it be tried. You can slice that problem a thousand different ways.

    It seems something nuclear has the votes on this blog. I wonder if something “dirty” could be in the works?
    I’d prefer the pig roast and a wet burka-clad dancer jumping out of an enormous cake, but I don’t suppose that is likely.

  • justme

    all sound and fury…signifying nothing…let’s hope so anyway!

  • justme

    all sound and fury…signifying nothing…let’s hope so anyway!

  • Bman

    Three possible options (in no particular order):
    1. An underground nuclear weapons test
    2. A missle test that can reach the west coast
    3. A blockade of the Strait of Hormuz

    No matter what the “surprise” this administration’s response will be to throw some harsh community organizer language thier way.

  • Bman

    Three possible options (in no particular order):
    1. An underground nuclear weapons test
    2. A missle test that can reach the west coast
    3. A blockade of the Strait of Hormuz

    No matter what the “surprise” this administration’s response will be to throw some harsh community organizer language thier way.

  • Orianna Laun

    I’ve got it! They’ll give D.C. a snowfall they haven’t seen in year. . .oh, wait, never mind. Guess they were beat to the “punch”.

  • Orianna Laun

    I’ve got it! They’ll give D.C. a snowfall they haven’t seen in year. . .oh, wait, never mind. Guess they were beat to the “punch”.

  • defenestrate

    My guess is that given the fact that Iran blames the “arrogant Western powers” for the protests and discord among the people, that TPTB in Iran may be referring to suppression of the Green Movement there to such a degree that all one sees for the most part is the pro-establishment folks who come out to celebrate the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution. There are enough dissidents in this case that I would imagine that any serious effort to suppress them will be met with a great deal of violence. Perhaps there will be Revoluitionary Guard and the like dressed up as regular Iranians attacking the “Greens” so as to make a show in the general vein of making the will of the Supreme Leader and his established order of rule appear to correlate much more greatly with the will of the people than the opposition groups have.

  • defenestrate

    My guess is that given the fact that Iran blames the “arrogant Western powers” for the protests and discord among the people, that TPTB in Iran may be referring to suppression of the Green Movement there to such a degree that all one sees for the most part is the pro-establishment folks who come out to celebrate the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution. There are enough dissidents in this case that I would imagine that any serious effort to suppress them will be met with a great deal of violence. Perhaps there will be Revoluitionary Guard and the like dressed up as regular Iranians attacking the “Greens” so as to make a show in the general vein of making the will of the Supreme Leader and his established order of rule appear to correlate much more greatly with the will of the people than the opposition groups have.

  • DonS
  • DonS
  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Sorry, Don (@45), that’s almost certainly not it. This is. (Were you joking and I missed it? I’d like to imagine a world in which the most dastardly, stunning thing Iran could do is to suspend Gmail. Sadly, that is not our world.)

    High-grade enriched uranium. Not even a test or a missile. This “punch” was a bit too telegraphed. Is anyone “stunned”?

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Sorry, Don (@45), that’s almost certainly not it. This is. (Were you joking and I missed it? I’d like to imagine a world in which the most dastardly, stunning thing Iran could do is to suspend Gmail. Sadly, that is not our world.)

    High-grade enriched uranium. Not even a test or a missile. This “punch” was a bit too telegraphed. Is anyone “stunned”?

  • DonS

    tODD @ 46: Yes, it was, indeed, an apparently sad attempt at a joke.

    I saw the article on the enriched uranium, but do you really think that’s it? Wow, talk about overselling. I mean, it might really be significant in the nuclear physics world, and some of our WMD experts might truly be stunned, but the rest of us, not so much.

    The most visible event this day has actually been all of the Green Revolution activity. Probably not what he meant, though.

  • DonS

    tODD @ 46: Yes, it was, indeed, an apparently sad attempt at a joke.

    I saw the article on the enriched uranium, but do you really think that’s it? Wow, talk about overselling. I mean, it might really be significant in the nuclear physics world, and some of our WMD experts might truly be stunned, but the rest of us, not so much.

    The most visible event this day has actually been all of the Green Revolution activity. Probably not what he meant, though.

  • Joe

    Not such a big punch and I am not stunned. Disappointed that they are at 20% enrichment capabilities but not at all shocked.

  • Joe

    Not such a big punch and I am not stunned. Disappointed that they are at 20% enrichment capabilities but not at all shocked.


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