Betraying Great Britain

A bombshell comes out of Wikileaks.  The Obama administration turned over secrets about England’s nuclear arsenal to the Russians:

Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.

Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.

The fact that the Americans used British nuclear secrets as a bargaining chip also sheds new light on the so-called “special relationship”, which is shown often to be a one-sided affair by US diplomatic communications obtained by the WikiLeaks website. . . .

A series of classified messages sent to Washington by US negotiators show how information on Britain’s nuclear capability was crucial to securing Russia’s support for the “New START” deal.

Although the treaty was not supposed to have any impact on Britain, the leaked cables show that Russia used the talks to demand more information about the UK’s Trident missiles, which are manufactured and maintained in the US.

Washington lobbied London in 2009 for permission to supply Moscow with detailed data about the performance of UK missiles. The UK refused, but the US agreed to hand over the serial numbers of Trident missiles it transfers to Britain.

via WikiLeaks cables: US agrees to tell Russia Britain’s nuclear secrets – Telegraph.

One might say, but these are our missiles we are giving to the Brits.  No, when we give them to the Brits, they belong to them.  And, at any rate, if our allies don’t want the Russians knowing something and have directly refused our request for permission to disclose it, sheer respect for the other nation would mean we should act accordingly.  How can this be anything but betrayal?

This is only the most serious example of a long list of diplomatic disrespect of Great Britain ever since the Obama administration took office.  Why are we doing such things to  our closest and strongest ally?

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • SKPeterson

    The only caveat I would make on your above post is that this is an example of diplomatic disrespect discovered post-WikiLeaks. It happened to occur under the Obama administration; it does not indicate that we have not undertaken similar actions in the past, pre-WikiLeaks . I am not an expert in diplomatic cable analysis, but it would be interesting to see if this request by the Russians was something new and entirely unexpected, or a usual part and parcel of nuclear negotiations. I suspect we have been willing to throw the Brits under the bus at various times prior to the Obama administration.

  • SKPeterson

    The only caveat I would make on your above post is that this is an example of diplomatic disrespect discovered post-WikiLeaks. It happened to occur under the Obama administration; it does not indicate that we have not undertaken similar actions in the past, pre-WikiLeaks . I am not an expert in diplomatic cable analysis, but it would be interesting to see if this request by the Russians was something new and entirely unexpected, or a usual part and parcel of nuclear negotiations. I suspect we have been willing to throw the Brits under the bus at various times prior to the Obama administration.

  • http://enterthevein.wordpress.com J. Dean

    While the U.S. has not exactly been saintly under other administrations, this is pretty sad.

  • http://enterthevein.wordpress.com J. Dean

    While the U.S. has not exactly been saintly under other administrations, this is pretty sad.

  • Tom Hering

    I immediately thought of the long-running BBC series Spooks, shown on PBS as MI-5. In that series, America is always throwing the Brits under the bus, and probably reflects a common perception of us. So I wonder if the WikiLeaks information is as much of a surprise to the Brits as it is to us.

  • Tom Hering

    I immediately thought of the long-running BBC series Spooks, shown on PBS as MI-5. In that series, America is always throwing the Brits under the bus, and probably reflects a common perception of us. So I wonder if the WikiLeaks information is as much of a surprise to the Brits as it is to us.

  • Stephen

    Tom!

    That’s exactly what I thought! That’s about the only TV show I like to watch. It’s fantastic! And while I know we had about a bazillion Bush lovers who would love to assert otherwise and who will jump down my throat for this, but wasn’t the whole Iraq War as least in part an exercise in throwing a whole lot of our allies under the collective bus, both the ones who went with us and the ones who opted out? And we wonder why anyone ought to trust us. But perhaps this is the way it goes as SK says, and this sort of thing is nothing new. Do we need to be all that surprised and/or will it help to be critical? I’m cynical. And do we really have any way of knowing either way? It’s disappointing, and I’m sure we will get some spin if it gets to bothersome for the wrong loudmouth in the opposition.

  • Stephen

    Tom!

    That’s exactly what I thought! That’s about the only TV show I like to watch. It’s fantastic! And while I know we had about a bazillion Bush lovers who would love to assert otherwise and who will jump down my throat for this, but wasn’t the whole Iraq War as least in part an exercise in throwing a whole lot of our allies under the collective bus, both the ones who went with us and the ones who opted out? And we wonder why anyone ought to trust us. But perhaps this is the way it goes as SK says, and this sort of thing is nothing new. Do we need to be all that surprised and/or will it help to be critical? I’m cynical. And do we really have any way of knowing either way? It’s disappointing, and I’m sure we will get some spin if it gets to bothersome for the wrong loudmouth in the opposition.

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen @ 4, so you’re a fan! Cool beans. Was it gut-wrenching for you, too, when Ros Myers got that lethal injection?

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen @ 4, so you’re a fan! Cool beans. Was it gut-wrenching for you, too, when Ros Myers got that lethal injection?

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    I wonder if there is half a justification in that the English Tridents will be “going to Russia” in the case of a nuclear war, too. That said, this isn’t going to get us anywhere with them……

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com Bike Bubba

    I wonder if there is half a justification in that the English Tridents will be “going to Russia” in the case of a nuclear war, too. That said, this isn’t going to get us anywhere with them……

  • Stephen

    Tom

    I forget all the characters names, but the worst was when they were in the cell and he had to snap the young agent’s neck (Jo?) to save her from being tortured. THAT one was gut wrenching! He’s my favorite character and now I can’t remember his name!

    I love it when I happen to catch it. It’s always on late and they keep moving it around. I don’t watch a lot of TV, but man do they know how to make a show right to last second!

    It’s a perfect illustration for me of what I imagine happening in our world. I may be completely deluded, but I think it goes something like that. After the Dick Cheney/Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame thing I don’t doubt it. The real patriots are out there doing things we cannot imagine. Meanwhile, the dupes are up there waving their hands and telling us stuff and I mostly tune it out.

  • Stephen

    Tom

    I forget all the characters names, but the worst was when they were in the cell and he had to snap the young agent’s neck (Jo?) to save her from being tortured. THAT one was gut wrenching! He’s my favorite character and now I can’t remember his name!

    I love it when I happen to catch it. It’s always on late and they keep moving it around. I don’t watch a lot of TV, but man do they know how to make a show right to last second!

    It’s a perfect illustration for me of what I imagine happening in our world. I may be completely deluded, but I think it goes something like that. After the Dick Cheney/Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame thing I don’t doubt it. The real patriots are out there doing things we cannot imagine. Meanwhile, the dupes are up there waving their hands and telling us stuff and I mostly tune it out.

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen @ 7, your favorite character’s name is Adam Carter. “Spoiler Alert!” on the following:

    “In the final episode of series 6, a torture cell traps Adam and Jo. The final frames of the episode show Adam considering whether to kill Jo at her own request to save her from torture. Flashbacks in the first episode of series 7 reveal that the pair had managed to escape the cell together.”

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen @ 7, your favorite character’s name is Adam Carter. “Spoiler Alert!” on the following:

    “In the final episode of series 6, a torture cell traps Adam and Jo. The final frames of the episode show Adam considering whether to kill Jo at her own request to save her from torture. Flashbacks in the first episode of series 7 reveal that the pair had managed to escape the cell together.”

  • Stephen

    Tom-

    What!!!!!!!!!

  • Stephen

    Tom-

    What!!!!!!!!!

  • DonS

    If this story is true, and I am most reluctant to credit traitors with truth, then we have paid a heavy diplomatic price indeed to sign a treaty that is of extremely questionable value, given the ethics of one Mr. Putin.

    You build credibility in the diplomatic world by being a loyal and faithful ally over many years. You lose it in the blink of an eye by betraying your allies for perceived advantage with your historic foes.

  • DonS

    If this story is true, and I am most reluctant to credit traitors with truth, then we have paid a heavy diplomatic price indeed to sign a treaty that is of extremely questionable value, given the ethics of one Mr. Putin.

    You build credibility in the diplomatic world by being a loyal and faithful ally over many years. You lose it in the blink of an eye by betraying your allies for perceived advantage with your historic foes.

  • Dust

    Perhaps if you are getting ready to throw Israel under the bus, it would make sense to throw the major parties involved in the creation of the state under the bus as well? Just a thought…and a bad one :(

  • Dust

    Perhaps if you are getting ready to throw Israel under the bus, it would make sense to throw the major parties involved in the creation of the state under the bus as well? Just a thought…and a bad one :(

  • The Jungle Cat

    It’s representative of a broader problem with the administration’s foreign policy: the President disregards the interests of our allies because he thinks that the allies will stand with us anyway, but he attempts to ingratiate our enemies because he is afraid of conflict.

  • The Jungle Cat

    It’s representative of a broader problem with the administration’s foreign policy: the President disregards the interests of our allies because he thinks that the allies will stand with us anyway, but he attempts to ingratiate our enemies because he is afraid of conflict.

  • Dust

    Our traditional allies have no where else to go if not with us. If the new world order includes stronger, friendlier and peaceful relationships with Russia and China, and a more sympathetic perspective on the problems in the middle east, then we will not need our older allies as much as they will need us, given they have no where else to go and even collectively aren’t much of a threat. The middle east won’t have it’s old strategic value anymore and even the suez canal won’t be as critical an asset given most shipping will be over the pacific. Just some thoughts and have no idea if they have merit, but it’s at least a plausible hi-level strategy, no? And might make a good novel :)

  • Dust

    Our traditional allies have no where else to go if not with us. If the new world order includes stronger, friendlier and peaceful relationships with Russia and China, and a more sympathetic perspective on the problems in the middle east, then we will not need our older allies as much as they will need us, given they have no where else to go and even collectively aren’t much of a threat. The middle east won’t have it’s old strategic value anymore and even the suez canal won’t be as critical an asset given most shipping will be over the pacific. Just some thoughts and have no idea if they have merit, but it’s at least a plausible hi-level strategy, no? And might make a good novel :)

  • Stephen

    DonS makes a good point. We assume this story is true. Who the heck knows! Perhaps it is some nasty way of attempting to divide the west at a shaky time. Putin seems like a sinister fellow the more he hangs around, and I would not be surprised to see another revolution of some sort of civil war(s) continue for quite a while. It seems like it will keep them busy at least if those kinds of things are small. If it gets big it could really fragment and cause enormous migrations. But I’m no hawk.

  • Stephen

    DonS makes a good point. We assume this story is true. Who the heck knows! Perhaps it is some nasty way of attempting to divide the west at a shaky time. Putin seems like a sinister fellow the more he hangs around, and I would not be surprised to see another revolution of some sort of civil war(s) continue for quite a while. It seems like it will keep them busy at least if those kinds of things are small. If it gets big it could really fragment and cause enormous migrations. But I’m no hawk.

  • Stephen

    I meant to say I’m no wonk. I’m not much of a hawk either.

  • Stephen

    I meant to say I’m no wonk. I’m not much of a hawk either.

  • Dust

    Stephen….don’t forget Clinton and her “reset” button! Am no wonk (or hawk) but it seems to me this administration may be wanting to create a new realignment from the one following WWII, but with the Brits playing a minor role. The rise of China has changed everything too, and with what looks like their embrace of the other political side of the middle east issues, namely away from an automatic support of the state of Israel, we might be in for a major shift in American foreign affairs and alliances? That is one of the perks of being in charge of the government, eh? A good healthy “dis” of the British and Israel is good PR with their new found friends and potential allies….not saying it is a good thing, but it appears to be their thing at the moment? Just saying….

  • Dust

    Stephen….don’t forget Clinton and her “reset” button! Am no wonk (or hawk) but it seems to me this administration may be wanting to create a new realignment from the one following WWII, but with the Brits playing a minor role. The rise of China has changed everything too, and with what looks like their embrace of the other political side of the middle east issues, namely away from an automatic support of the state of Israel, we might be in for a major shift in American foreign affairs and alliances? That is one of the perks of being in charge of the government, eh? A good healthy “dis” of the British and Israel is good PR with their new found friends and potential allies….not saying it is a good thing, but it appears to be their thing at the moment? Just saying….

  • http://www.newreformationpress.com Patrick Kyle

    Wow, I am really shocked…. (Insert sarcasm here.)

  • http://www.newreformationpress.com Patrick Kyle

    Wow, I am really shocked…. (Insert sarcasm here.)


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