Will you vanish on Saturday at 6:00 p.m.?

Tomorrow, May 21, in the year of our Lord 2011, the rapture will occur.  According to the calculations of radio preacher Harold Camping, all true Christians will be taken up into Heaven at 6:00 p.m., when that hour comes in all time zones.  I suppose if we hear about strange disappearances in other parts of the world earlier in the day, we will know that this is happening and we can prepare ourselves when our time comes.  (The earlier version of this post said 3:00 p.m., but I have learned, as some of you have said, that it’s 6:00 p.m.  You’ll have three more hours.)

Tomorrow will not be the End of the World.  That will happen, according to Camping, six months later, on October 21.  You’ll want to put that down on your calendar too.  Tomorrow will be the rapture of the Church.  Then will come some pretty intense tribulations until Jesus shows up in October.

To see how Camping came up with these dates–including links to some of his own writings as well as those of his critics–see this post from Justin Taylor: Judgment Day: May 21, 2011? – Justin Taylor.

Now I don’t believe this will happen, but if it does, it will at least clear up some important questions.   We get into all kinds of theological discussions on this blog, and some of them get pretty intense and personal.  If Camping’s prediction comes to pass, at last we will have solid empirical evidence for who is right.

Now Lutherans don’t believe in a rapture like this at all.  I don’t believe in it, though, is a pre-requisite for it happening to a person.  It may well be that all Lutherans will vanish on Saturday afternoon.  Or maybe Roman Catholics are right after all and they will be gone.   Or the Eastern Orthodox.   Or the Reformed.  Or Arminians.  Or Baptists.  Or Pentecostals.  Or non-denominationalists.   Or it may well be that there are true believers in all of these traditions.   Those who show up in Church this Sunday  may be the apostates, and those who don’t may have a good excuse.

Camping himself is a hyper-Calvinist, though not an orthodox Calvinist.   He says it won’t do any good to repent at the last minute and no one can really do anything about whether they are raptured or not.  God will take his elect and that’s that.   But Camping teaches his listeners that ALL churches today are apostate and that real Christians shouldn’t go to church at all anymore.  They should instead just listen to his radio program.   So if he is completely right, church services will go on as normal this Sunday, since church members of every denomination will get left behind.  Instead, the elect is to be found among those who do NOT go to church.   I wonder if the number of the elect may be so small that no one will notice whether they have been raptured or not.

At any rate, we will know some things for sure on Saturday afternoon, if only that Camping’s theology is disproven.  Be sure to tune into this blog on Monday if you are here and if I am here.  We will do a roll-call to see if anyone is missing.

So if the end is coming on Saturday evening, what should you do in the meantime?  Plant a tree?

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-27802-Televangelism--Pop-Christianity-Examiner Bob Hunter

    3pm? Harold promised me another 3 hours here – 6pm in whatever time zone you’re in. Guess it’s a chain reaction rapture, which means we should start hearing about people in Australia disappearing soon.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-27802-Televangelism--Pop-Christianity-Examiner Bob Hunter

    3pm? Harold promised me another 3 hours here – 6pm in whatever time zone you’re in. Guess it’s a chain reaction rapture, which means we should start hearing about people in Australia disappearing soon.

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  • Michael Lynch

    If the end is Saturday, it’s not according to Camping’s calculations. And there won’t be five months of judgement to follow–it’s the end–according to the Bible. I kind of have theory God won’t end things on any prominantly promoted date-setting. It’s just a theory.

    I hope someone will be tracking him on Saturday. He’s taken a lot of money from his followers and the deserve to know what he does as the 21st comes to a close. I also hope this wakes them up. Unfortunately, I think he’ll just make some excuse for miscalculation and continue fooling these poor folks. I’m kind of afraid something like Jonestown could happen. Not necessarily the mass suicide, but the cult community. After all, Camping’s got their money.

  • Michael Lynch

    If the end is Saturday, it’s not according to Camping’s calculations. And there won’t be five months of judgement to follow–it’s the end–according to the Bible. I kind of have theory God won’t end things on any prominantly promoted date-setting. It’s just a theory.

    I hope someone will be tracking him on Saturday. He’s taken a lot of money from his followers and the deserve to know what he does as the 21st comes to a close. I also hope this wakes them up. Unfortunately, I think he’ll just make some excuse for miscalculation and continue fooling these poor folks. I’m kind of afraid something like Jonestown could happen. Not necessarily the mass suicide, but the cult community. After all, Camping’s got their money.

  • Robin

    I am not planting a tree but I am going to be working on remodeling my new home… I should have not bought a house since the end is come of course who cares because I won’t need money after tomorrow or at least by October.

  • Robin

    I am not planting a tree but I am going to be working on remodeling my new home… I should have not bought a house since the end is come of course who cares because I won’t need money after tomorrow or at least by October.

  • Tom Hering

    “So if the end is coming on Saturday afternoon, what should you do in the meantime?”

    Play it safe. Stop going to church. At least until Sunday, May 22.

  • Tom Hering

    “So if the end is coming on Saturday afternoon, what should you do in the meantime?”

    Play it safe. Stop going to church. At least until Sunday, May 22.

  • Jimmy Veith

    I’ve got to go to work today. So all those tasks that I don’t want to do today are going to be postponed until Monday since there is a chance I won’t have to do them at all.

  • Jimmy Veith

    I’ve got to go to work today. So all those tasks that I don’t want to do today are going to be postponed until Monday since there is a chance I won’t have to do them at all.

  • http://enterthevein.wordpress.com J. Dean

    Does this mean I won’t have to go back to school and put up with those brats.. er, students.. on Monday!?

    Well alrighty then!! I mean-oh darn, what a shame.

  • http://enterthevein.wordpress.com J. Dean

    Does this mean I won’t have to go back to school and put up with those brats.. er, students.. on Monday!?

    Well alrighty then!! I mean-oh darn, what a shame.

  • Stephen

    Man! I’ve really got some stuff to catch up on this Saturday! 3:00 p.m. you say? Let’s see . . . I think I can catch up on a little work first thing in the morning and maybe, just maybe get the baby’s room painted by then. I’ve got all the stuff and the paint is picked out. That will make my wife happy at least. Not even the end of the world will keep me from doing the Lord’s work.

    Should we wait out in the yard?

  • Stephen

    Man! I’ve really got some stuff to catch up on this Saturday! 3:00 p.m. you say? Let’s see . . . I think I can catch up on a little work first thing in the morning and maybe, just maybe get the baby’s room painted by then. I’ve got all the stuff and the paint is picked out. That will make my wife happy at least. Not even the end of the world will keep me from doing the Lord’s work.

    Should we wait out in the yard?

  • Tom Hering

    Straight up from all the different points on Earth means true believers will fly away in a lot of different directions. So the angels are going to be super busy, racing around with nets.

  • Tom Hering

    Straight up from all the different points on Earth means true believers will fly away in a lot of different directions. So the angels are going to be super busy, racing around with nets.

  • Jimmy Veith

    Don’t buy green bananas!

  • Jimmy Veith

    Don’t buy green bananas!

  • larry

    I wonder what the excuse will be Sunday, Monday?

    Ironically it was Noah and his family that was “left behind” “as it was in the days of Noah”.

  • larry

    I wonder what the excuse will be Sunday, Monday?

    Ironically it was Noah and his family that was “left behind” “as it was in the days of Noah”.

  • trotk

    Tom, your response gave me one of my favorite visual images in a long time. Like kids chasing butterflies or fireflies, except better.

  • trotk

    Tom, your response gave me one of my favorite visual images in a long time. Like kids chasing butterflies or fireflies, except better.

  • Jimmy Veith

    To my Big Brother, “Dr. Veith”, the smartest person I know.

    Just in case I’m left behind, can I have your deluxe Hasty-Bake BBQ Grill and Smoker?

  • Jimmy Veith

    To my Big Brother, “Dr. Veith”, the smartest person I know.

    Just in case I’m left behind, can I have your deluxe Hasty-Bake BBQ Grill and Smoker?

  • http://blodskald.wordpress.com/blog Colin

    At 3:00 pm, Saturday? I’ll be in Winchester doing yardwork. Huzzah for working in the world that God has given us and which He will one day restore!

    As I’m a (rather) Orthodox Presbyterian, I guess I’m too churchy for his rapture.

  • http://blodskald.wordpress.com/blog Colin

    At 3:00 pm, Saturday? I’ll be in Winchester doing yardwork. Huzzah for working in the world that God has given us and which He will one day restore!

    As I’m a (rather) Orthodox Presbyterian, I guess I’m too churchy for his rapture.

  • BW

    Hmmm I’m going to see some baseball on Saturday, I hope the angels remember to rapture me from the stadium and not look for me at my home. It would be an awful mixup…

  • BW

    Hmmm I’m going to see some baseball on Saturday, I hope the angels remember to rapture me from the stadium and not look for me at my home. It would be an awful mixup…

  • Orianna Laun

    I heard that the time was Jerusalem time, so we should expect people to go sometime during today.
    I think I’ll still practice the hymns for Sunday.

  • Orianna Laun

    I heard that the time was Jerusalem time, so we should expect people to go sometime during today.
    I think I’ll still practice the hymns for Sunday.

  • Richard

    Camping isn’t a “hyper Calvinist” at all. He subscribes to none of the Reformed Confessions, and in fact got tossed out of the Christian Reformed Church he attended when he started this nonsense years ago. He is just a plain old nut.

  • Richard

    Camping isn’t a “hyper Calvinist” at all. He subscribes to none of the Reformed Confessions, and in fact got tossed out of the Christian Reformed Church he attended when he started this nonsense years ago. He is just a plain old nut.

  • Booklover

    On that precise day, the son of the Pastor of our church is holding his graduation party at the church. Another congregant is holding a wedding at the church. I plan to be at both.

    Then I will attend a concert at the local Catholic church, which has the best acoustics around.

    On Sunday, I will be singing “My God,” a gospel song by Stuart Townend, at church. The lyrics make Him sound more encompassing than Mr. H.C. makes Him sound.

  • Booklover

    On that precise day, the son of the Pastor of our church is holding his graduation party at the church. Another congregant is holding a wedding at the church. I plan to be at both.

    Then I will attend a concert at the local Catholic church, which has the best acoustics around.

    On Sunday, I will be singing “My God,” a gospel song by Stuart Townend, at church. The lyrics make Him sound more encompassing than Mr. H.C. makes Him sound.

  • Kimberly

    It’s not exactly a tree, but I’m planting my veggie garden and attending a dance recital. Sure hope the work is worth it. ;-)

  • Kimberly

    It’s not exactly a tree, but I’m planting my veggie garden and attending a dance recital. Sure hope the work is worth it. ;-)

  • http://www.geneveith.com Gene Veith

    Richard, as I said, he isn’t Orthodox as a Calvinist or anything else. But I’m almost certain that he does subscribe to TULIP, however that counts as a confession.

  • http://www.geneveith.com Gene Veith

    Richard, as I said, he isn’t Orthodox as a Calvinist or anything else. But I’m almost certain that he does subscribe to TULIP, however that counts as a confession.

  • http://www.geneveith.com Gene Veith

    Jimmy, you are more likely to get raptured than I am, since you are a Baptist. But if I do and if at all possible, I am taking my Hasty Bake. If that proves impossible, you can have it.

  • http://www.geneveith.com Gene Veith

    Jimmy, you are more likely to get raptured than I am, since you are a Baptist. But if I do and if at all possible, I am taking my Hasty Bake. If that proves impossible, you can have it.

  • Helen F

    Awww, just when the Twins were starting to win again!

  • Helen F

    Awww, just when the Twins were starting to win again!

  • Billye

    We planted strawberries and mowed our lawn and the church lawn yesterday. We will plant more garden today and maybe even buy tomato plants tomorrow! And then on Sunday, receive God’s gifts in the Divine Service! In other words, we continue in our vocations as Christians living in God’s abundant grace.

  • Billye

    We planted strawberries and mowed our lawn and the church lawn yesterday. We will plant more garden today and maybe even buy tomato plants tomorrow! And then on Sunday, receive God’s gifts in the Divine Service! In other words, we continue in our vocations as Christians living in God’s abundant grace.

  • Dennis Peskey

    Before I depart, I should like to have someone explain the purpose of a “rapture” to me. As I understand this “teaching”, the church (or the elect for our calvanist friends), will suddenly depart this planet for (insert your favorite location here).

    What then is the question this teaching begs. Since all the believers are long gone – NO believer remains to proclaim the Gospel (remember the good news the church is called to proclaim – Christ crucified for sinners). If all the believers are gone, it’s over; light the match and burn it. I think I’ll schedule a barbeque for 1600H (four o’clock pm for you non-elect) on Saturday afternoon. Brats and Beer ought to work nicely.
    Happy rapture to all.
    Pax,
    Dennis

  • Dennis Peskey

    Before I depart, I should like to have someone explain the purpose of a “rapture” to me. As I understand this “teaching”, the church (or the elect for our calvanist friends), will suddenly depart this planet for (insert your favorite location here).

    What then is the question this teaching begs. Since all the believers are long gone – NO believer remains to proclaim the Gospel (remember the good news the church is called to proclaim – Christ crucified for sinners). If all the believers are gone, it’s over; light the match and burn it. I think I’ll schedule a barbeque for 1600H (four o’clock pm for you non-elect) on Saturday afternoon. Brats and Beer ought to work nicely.
    Happy rapture to all.
    Pax,
    Dennis

  • Carl Vehse

    Check out The Lutheran Satire’s “Messing with Premillennial Dispensationalists” and find out what awesome things a Lutheran can do if he has mutant powers.

  • Carl Vehse

    Check out The Lutheran Satire’s “Messing with Premillennial Dispensationalists” and find out what awesome things a Lutheran can do if he has mutant powers.

  • http://www.blueyeduckstudios.com katey duck

    First of all, Gene, I found a typo and I can’t let it go: (5th paragraph)
    “I don’t believing in it, though, is a pre-requisite for it happening to a person.”

    Okay then … whew … now I can comment.

    This might be fun and games for many – but the entire mocking attitude I am seeing (albeit mostly among non-believers on facebook) breaks my heart. When we, as followers of Christ, also join in on the mocking and joking… well, it just seems to me it paints a dim view of the actual end times and the glorious work Jesus has accomplished and will complete.
    I am not a joykill; I am quite a joker myself, but the world is watching The Church in this situation – I think we need to give them something worthwhile to look at.

  • http://www.blueyeduckstudios.com katey duck

    First of all, Gene, I found a typo and I can’t let it go: (5th paragraph)
    “I don’t believing in it, though, is a pre-requisite for it happening to a person.”

    Okay then … whew … now I can comment.

    This might be fun and games for many – but the entire mocking attitude I am seeing (albeit mostly among non-believers on facebook) breaks my heart. When we, as followers of Christ, also join in on the mocking and joking… well, it just seems to me it paints a dim view of the actual end times and the glorious work Jesus has accomplished and will complete.
    I am not a joykill; I am quite a joker myself, but the world is watching The Church in this situation – I think we need to give them something worthwhile to look at.

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  • Booklover

    katey duck~~

    Although your sentiment is to be appreciated, here is why some Christians join the world in mocking Harold Camping:

    On May 22, when his followers wake up to find themselves in their own beds, many of them will lose faith, not only in Harold Camping, but in the Savior. H.C.’s teaching will actually turn many away from the Lord. That is why many believers are reacting in distaste.

    Also, if Mr. Camping is taking money from his followers, that is another reason to react in distaste.

    There are so many other reasons. I used to listen to him. When he announced that there is nothing we can do to assure our salvation, just cry out and cry out to the Lord and hope for the best, I switched him off. His message is different than the Bible’s.

    “Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved.”

  • Booklover

    katey duck~~

    Although your sentiment is to be appreciated, here is why some Christians join the world in mocking Harold Camping:

    On May 22, when his followers wake up to find themselves in their own beds, many of them will lose faith, not only in Harold Camping, but in the Savior. H.C.’s teaching will actually turn many away from the Lord. That is why many believers are reacting in distaste.

    Also, if Mr. Camping is taking money from his followers, that is another reason to react in distaste.

    There are so many other reasons. I used to listen to him. When he announced that there is nothing we can do to assure our salvation, just cry out and cry out to the Lord and hope for the best, I switched him off. His message is different than the Bible’s.

    “Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved.”

  • steve

    Harold Camping is wrong! I feel so certain that, not being much of a gambler myself, I would go to Vegas and bet my next months earnings on it. The only problem is the limited number of people placing bets that it will happen.

    In other news, life in this world may end tomorrow for any one of us, God forbid, including the Harold himself. We should all be ready, shouldn’t we?

  • steve

    Harold Camping is wrong! I feel so certain that, not being much of a gambler myself, I would go to Vegas and bet my next months earnings on it. The only problem is the limited number of people placing bets that it will happen.

    In other news, life in this world may end tomorrow for any one of us, God forbid, including the Harold himself. We should all be ready, shouldn’t we?

  • WebMonk

    Playing some D&D tonight. Tomorrow: buy new tires for my car.

    I have emailed a few Camping-ites and asked them if they wouldn’t mind sending me their money since they won’t be needing it. One of them wrote back a rather snarky reply that he didn’t want his money going to support the reprobate even if it was the end of the world.

    The others never responded.

    I’m disappointed. With over $100 million sent to that quack in the last 18 months, you’d think they could have sent me a little bit too!

  • WebMonk

    Playing some D&D tonight. Tomorrow: buy new tires for my car.

    I have emailed a few Camping-ites and asked them if they wouldn’t mind sending me their money since they won’t be needing it. One of them wrote back a rather snarky reply that he didn’t want his money going to support the reprobate even if it was the end of the world.

    The others never responded.

    I’m disappointed. With over $100 million sent to that quack in the last 18 months, you’d think they could have sent me a little bit too!

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    It is so goofy.

    Jesus said we would not know when. So, his claiming he knows is the equivalent of calling himself, and the Lord, a liar.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    It is so goofy.

    Jesus said we would not know when. So, his claiming he knows is the equivalent of calling himself, and the Lord, a liar.

  • Stephen

    katey duck,

    Since I am one of the mockers so far, I wonder what you suggest would be a better attitude. I mean that in sincerity because I have struggled with this, even in my own family. Generally, the “end times” is not something I ever talk about much at all. We preach Christ and him crucified. People that get carried away with that stuff, to me, deserve the ridicule they get. They are false prophets. Like every cult leader before him and Hal Lindsey who made a fortune making this stuff popular, they destroy faith. I had some Jehovah’s Witness at my door the other day. I don’t bother talking to them any more because that is all they want to talk about – “end times.” They are cut off from the truth. It is sad, and even me with all my theological knowledge do not seem to be able to have anything to say to them anymore. They carry a book in their hands that say “holy scriptures” on it but it is no such thing. How messed up is that? It is as if they have become those without ears who cannot hear at all the Gospel that is for them. Their ears are completely gone. Mock them lest anyone else lose theirs. That’s one strategy. What is yours?

  • Stephen

    katey duck,

    Since I am one of the mockers so far, I wonder what you suggest would be a better attitude. I mean that in sincerity because I have struggled with this, even in my own family. Generally, the “end times” is not something I ever talk about much at all. We preach Christ and him crucified. People that get carried away with that stuff, to me, deserve the ridicule they get. They are false prophets. Like every cult leader before him and Hal Lindsey who made a fortune making this stuff popular, they destroy faith. I had some Jehovah’s Witness at my door the other day. I don’t bother talking to them any more because that is all they want to talk about – “end times.” They are cut off from the truth. It is sad, and even me with all my theological knowledge do not seem to be able to have anything to say to them anymore. They carry a book in their hands that say “holy scriptures” on it but it is no such thing. How messed up is that? It is as if they have become those without ears who cannot hear at all the Gospel that is for them. Their ears are completely gone. Mock them lest anyone else lose theirs. That’s one strategy. What is yours?

  • Stephen

    Booklover -

    That quote from Acts to the jailer was my devotion this morning! And his whole family was baptized! How about that?

  • Stephen

    Booklover -

    That quote from Acts to the jailer was my devotion this morning! And his whole family was baptized! How about that?

  • Simone

    If the end comes Saturday, I won’t have to start my summer economics class Monday!!!
    But, since I think this guy has no credibility at all, I suppose Saturday will be spent not planting trees, but delving into the first econ lesson.
    Did I mention I’m so not a math person?

  • Simone

    If the end comes Saturday, I won’t have to start my summer economics class Monday!!!
    But, since I think this guy has no credibility at all, I suppose Saturday will be spent not planting trees, but delving into the first econ lesson.
    Did I mention I’m so not a math person?

  • Joe

    Let’s be clear. Camping is not just wrong about the date and time. He is wrong in claiming that their will be a rapture.

  • Joe

    Let’s be clear. Camping is not just wrong about the date and time. He is wrong in claiming that their will be a rapture.

  • http://enterthevein.wordpress.com J. Dean

    katey duck @ 25,

    I would remind you that Elijah mocked the 450 servants of Baal during that showdown. (see I Kings 18:27)

  • http://enterthevein.wordpress.com J. Dean

    katey duck @ 25,

    I would remind you that Elijah mocked the 450 servants of Baal during that showdown. (see I Kings 18:27)

  • Helen F

    Yes, and someone named Martin did his share of mocking, with the help of a certain artist, a pope or two!

  • Helen F

    Yes, and someone named Martin did his share of mocking, with the help of a certain artist, a pope or two!

  • Stephen

    Seems the mockery is everywhere. There’s a Facebook group for it. someone has the idea to use blow up sex dolls with helium. Then there’s rapture kites, leaving piles of clothes around, warnings to keep the sunroof on the car open, etc.

    It is interesting that Camping is not including “church-going” folks in his prediction. Does that help with any concerns about our faith being mocked? When JW is mocked does that include Christians? I hear the Mormons are showing up to see the Broadway show that mocks their faith. Some have said they like it. Apparently it is really good. Is that the quality of the art transcending the denigration of the mockery itself? I digress.

  • Stephen

    Seems the mockery is everywhere. There’s a Facebook group for it. someone has the idea to use blow up sex dolls with helium. Then there’s rapture kites, leaving piles of clothes around, warnings to keep the sunroof on the car open, etc.

    It is interesting that Camping is not including “church-going” folks in his prediction. Does that help with any concerns about our faith being mocked? When JW is mocked does that include Christians? I hear the Mormons are showing up to see the Broadway show that mocks their faith. Some have said they like it. Apparently it is really good. Is that the quality of the art transcending the denigration of the mockery itself? I digress.

  • larry

    A false prophet is a false prophet, it doesn’t get much more black and white than this clown. If one cannot call and mock this buffoon as a false prophet then I fear we have become so blind and so callous to the Word that by no criteria except that the devil should show up in a red suite, horns, tail and pitchfork in hand saying, “I’ve come to announce I’m a false prophet”, could we even possible say, “Hey you think its slightly possible he’s a false prophet or maybe he’s got some Christianity about him.”

    He should be mocked for his false prophesy and before the unbelieving world. In no way, shape or form should his preaching, teaching and doctrine be defended as even remotely Christian. His preaching, teaching and doctrine is rank paganism with nothing more than the accoutrements of Christian words and names as if to give it validity.

    The mark of a false prophet, in addition to their doctrine, is their prophesies don’t come true. He’s already said this and been wrong. He’s more akin to a witch doctor with a slide rule.

  • larry

    A false prophet is a false prophet, it doesn’t get much more black and white than this clown. If one cannot call and mock this buffoon as a false prophet then I fear we have become so blind and so callous to the Word that by no criteria except that the devil should show up in a red suite, horns, tail and pitchfork in hand saying, “I’ve come to announce I’m a false prophet”, could we even possible say, “Hey you think its slightly possible he’s a false prophet or maybe he’s got some Christianity about him.”

    He should be mocked for his false prophesy and before the unbelieving world. In no way, shape or form should his preaching, teaching and doctrine be defended as even remotely Christian. His preaching, teaching and doctrine is rank paganism with nothing more than the accoutrements of Christian words and names as if to give it validity.

    The mark of a false prophet, in addition to their doctrine, is their prophesies don’t come true. He’s already said this and been wrong. He’s more akin to a witch doctor with a slide rule.

  • kerner

    Weirdly enough, I was hoping to plant a tree tomorrow. But I also think I will send Camping a check…dated May 24, 2011…And I’ll stop payment on it if I’m still here on May 23, 2011. ;)

  • kerner

    Weirdly enough, I was hoping to plant a tree tomorrow. But I also think I will send Camping a check…dated May 24, 2011…And I’ll stop payment on it if I’m still here on May 23, 2011. ;)

  • John C

    What happens if you get to heaven and you don’t bloody like it? Are there return tickets?

  • John C

    What happens if you get to heaven and you don’t bloody like it? Are there return tickets?

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    “To my Big Brother, “Dr. Veith”, the smartest person I know.

    Just in case I’m left behind, can I have your deluxe Hasty-Bake BBQ Grill and Smoker?”

    My take is that if we dispensationalists are correct about the implications of 1 Cor. 15:50-55, and there is a rapture (and I sure hope all my Lutern friends are part of it whether they believe in it or not!), a “smoker” is the very last thing that those left behind will need, if you catch my drift. :^)

    Also on the light side, the date of one of Camping’s predictions would be a great time for the rapture, because that would certainly be one time when the flock would not expect it.

    That said, Camping is heterodox in almost all ways–one does not need to go to the Augsburg or Westminster confessions to figure this out, as his heterodoxy violates basics shared by just about every denomination, starting with the basic need (Hebrews 10:24-5) to be in church fellowship.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    “To my Big Brother, “Dr. Veith”, the smartest person I know.

    Just in case I’m left behind, can I have your deluxe Hasty-Bake BBQ Grill and Smoker?”

    My take is that if we dispensationalists are correct about the implications of 1 Cor. 15:50-55, and there is a rapture (and I sure hope all my Lutern friends are part of it whether they believe in it or not!), a “smoker” is the very last thing that those left behind will need, if you catch my drift. :^)

    Also on the light side, the date of one of Camping’s predictions would be a great time for the rapture, because that would certainly be one time when the flock would not expect it.

    That said, Camping is heterodox in almost all ways–one does not need to go to the Augsburg or Westminster confessions to figure this out, as his heterodoxy violates basics shared by just about every denomination, starting with the basic need (Hebrews 10:24-5) to be in church fellowship.

  • nowafonseca

    @39 ooohhhh……you crazy kerner and your trees, i was meaning to talk to you about that…..

    but seriously, this guy is mocking our Lord and Savior. He scatters the flock. He is a thief and a robber. He is sowing fear and disbelief. This is not “good news.”

  • nowafonseca

    @39 ooohhhh……you crazy kerner and your trees, i was meaning to talk to you about that…..

    but seriously, this guy is mocking our Lord and Savior. He scatters the flock. He is a thief and a robber. He is sowing fear and disbelief. This is not “good news.”

  • Arfies

    As it happens, I bought two Red Haven peach seedlings yesterday; tomorrow is the day I plan to plant them. And I expect to be around long enough to sample some of their fruit in a few years.

  • Arfies

    As it happens, I bought two Red Haven peach seedlings yesterday; tomorrow is the day I plan to plant them. And I expect to be around long enough to sample some of their fruit in a few years.

  • http://www.newreformationpress.com Patrick Kyle

    I find myself irritated that this fool gets so much free press and brings the Gospel and the Church into disrepute. What of his followers who will be disillusioned when his ‘prophecies’ don’t come true? We need to be very vocal and public with our repudiation and condemnation of this clown’s views.

  • http://www.newreformationpress.com Patrick Kyle

    I find myself irritated that this fool gets so much free press and brings the Gospel and the Church into disrepute. What of his followers who will be disillusioned when his ‘prophecies’ don’t come true? We need to be very vocal and public with our repudiation and condemnation of this clown’s views.

  • Tom Hering

    “He scatters the flock. He is a thief and a robber.” @ 42.

    I don’t know for sure, but I doubt Camping has stolen more than a few sheep. I’d guess most of his followers are made up of those who’ve already left their churches (for one reason or another). So, Camping thrives on our failure to bring back members who’ve exited. If we even try to bring them back. (Who really wants to know why people don’t like you?)

  • Tom Hering

    “He scatters the flock. He is a thief and a robber.” @ 42.

    I don’t know for sure, but I doubt Camping has stolen more than a few sheep. I’d guess most of his followers are made up of those who’ve already left their churches (for one reason or another). So, Camping thrives on our failure to bring back members who’ve exited. If we even try to bring them back. (Who really wants to know why people don’t like you?)

  • Stephen

    @ 42 and elsewhere

    That’s pretty much how I feel about it. I hope those around me that are far from church in their lives right now will see me also laughing at this silly business and perhaps think “hey, he goes to church and he thinks it’s dumb too!” Who knows? They know me and know what I’m about and I’m far from that nonsense. I hope they get that message. Like you say, not good news at all.

  • Stephen

    @ 42 and elsewhere

    That’s pretty much how I feel about it. I hope those around me that are far from church in their lives right now will see me also laughing at this silly business and perhaps think “hey, he goes to church and he thinks it’s dumb too!” Who knows? They know me and know what I’m about and I’m far from that nonsense. I hope they get that message. Like you say, not good news at all.

  • Michael Lynch

    I’m surprised no Campingites have chimed in. I wonder if they’re a little concerned about the prophecy now that it’s so close.

  • Michael Lynch

    I’m surprised no Campingites have chimed in. I wonder if they’re a little concerned about the prophecy now that it’s so close.

  • Tom Hering

    Family Radio’s countdown page is here: http://www.familyradio.com/index2.html Curiously, the “Donate Online” link is still active. :-D

  • Tom Hering

    Family Radio’s countdown page is here: http://www.familyradio.com/index2.html Curiously, the “Donate Online” link is still active. :-D

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    There are quite a few “Christians” that I wouldn’t mind seeing disappear.

    Lord forgive me.

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    There are quite a few “Christians” that I wouldn’t mind seeing disappear.

    Lord forgive me.

  • Tom Hering

    When 3:00 comes and goes tomorrow, I imagine the first thought each of the true believers will have is that the Rapture DID happen, but they – individually – were left behind. What a horrible moment of fear and hopelessness that will be for them. Then Family Radio will provide an explanation for why Camping got the date wrong, and NONE of the true believers were raptured. And the deception will start all over again.

  • Tom Hering

    When 3:00 comes and goes tomorrow, I imagine the first thought each of the true believers will have is that the Rapture DID happen, but they – individually – were left behind. What a horrible moment of fear and hopelessness that will be for them. Then Family Radio will provide an explanation for why Camping got the date wrong, and NONE of the true believers were raptured. And the deception will start all over again.

  • John C

    What if you get to heaven and it is full of people like Don and Porcell who want to cut back on services and lower taxes?

  • John C

    What if you get to heaven and it is full of people like Don and Porcell who want to cut back on services and lower taxes?

  • http://www.blkandred.com J. Thomas Hunter

    According to Camping, there will be dead bodies rising from the grave. To all of the people in my life who laughed when I told them that I stockpile firearms to prepare for the Zombie Apocalypse, “bring ammo or stay home!”

  • http://www.blkandred.com J. Thomas Hunter

    According to Camping, there will be dead bodies rising from the grave. To all of the people in my life who laughed when I told them that I stockpile firearms to prepare for the Zombie Apocalypse, “bring ammo or stay home!”

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  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Yeah, I’d plant a tree, if it weren’t so close to the beginning of the dry season here in the Northwest. As it is, I have to make sure to water through summer all six trees I planted last November. I really don’t need any more new trees right now.

    I did plant some rhododendrons around Mother’s Day. Maybe, in my head, I will refer to them as “Harold” and “Camping”.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Yeah, I’d plant a tree, if it weren’t so close to the beginning of the dry season here in the Northwest. As it is, I have to make sure to water through summer all six trees I planted last November. I really don’t need any more new trees right now.

    I did plant some rhododendrons around Mother’s Day. Maybe, in my head, I will refer to them as “Harold” and “Camping”.

  • David Carver (in Wuxi)

    6:37 PM in China, and the only thing that’s changed is the weather.

    Then again, Mr. Camping calculated by the Western lunar calendar, not the Eastern solar calendar, so I might need to wait a little longer.

  • David Carver (in Wuxi)

    6:37 PM in China, and the only thing that’s changed is the weather.

    Then again, Mr. Camping calculated by the Western lunar calendar, not the Eastern solar calendar, so I might need to wait a little longer.

  • Jonny

    Camping’s an excellent example of how one man and a Bible are dangerous. “Sola scriptura”? I think not.

  • Jonny

    Camping’s an excellent example of how one man and a Bible are dangerous. “Sola scriptura”? I think not.

  • Jimmy Veith

    It is now 7:12 A.M. in Oklahoma. So far, the only thing that has been raptured is the money of Harold Camping’s followers, probably to the Cayman Islands.

  • Jimmy Veith

    It is now 7:12 A.M. in Oklahoma. So far, the only thing that has been raptured is the money of Harold Camping’s followers, probably to the Cayman Islands.

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    The moral of the story is not to follow legalistic fools who inhabit the radio (or anywhere else for that matter).

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    The moral of the story is not to follow legalistic fools who inhabit the radio (or anywhere else for that matter).

  • helen

    The last of University of Texas’ three games with the “Aggies” [Texas Agricultural and Mechanics] :)
    is scheduled to start at 6:06 tonight. [We won the first two but we'd like a sweep.]
    I’m not sure why the schedule says “6:06″. ;)

  • helen

    The last of University of Texas’ three games with the “Aggies” [Texas Agricultural and Mechanics] :)
    is scheduled to start at 6:06 tonight. [We won the first two but we'd like a sweep.]
    I’m not sure why the schedule says “6:06″. ;)

  • Stephen

    Hey, looky there! I’ve got three more hours! My “honey do” list just got longer. Does he mention the proper apparel for the event. I’m guessing we’ll need lots of sun screen with a very high SPF.

    Like Steve @ 57, perhaps this will put the screws to this silly enterprise, with the likes of Jack Van Impe and that insufferable blowhard John Hagee and any number of false teachers out their bilking people and scaring the hell into them. I hope for at least minor wake up call. Perhaps we can pray for that this Sunday for all of those under the spell of this kind of junk, that God would take this and use it to His glory so that people would leave false teaching and seek Christ and his gospel elsewhere.

  • Stephen

    Hey, looky there! I’ve got three more hours! My “honey do” list just got longer. Does he mention the proper apparel for the event. I’m guessing we’ll need lots of sun screen with a very high SPF.

    Like Steve @ 57, perhaps this will put the screws to this silly enterprise, with the likes of Jack Van Impe and that insufferable blowhard John Hagee and any number of false teachers out their bilking people and scaring the hell into them. I hope for at least minor wake up call. Perhaps we can pray for that this Sunday for all of those under the spell of this kind of junk, that God would take this and use it to His glory so that people would leave false teaching and seek Christ and his gospel elsewhere.

  • BW

    Stephen @59

    I remember when John Hagee was saying that the Bosnia conflict would bring about the end times! And Van Impe was all over Y2K! These guys just all cycle in and out of predictions.

    There’s just that power of hearing these guys talk and thinking you can make sense of world events and know what’s coming.

  • BW

    Stephen @59

    I remember when John Hagee was saying that the Bosnia conflict would bring about the end times! And Van Impe was all over Y2K! These guys just all cycle in and out of predictions.

    There’s just that power of hearing these guys talk and thinking you can make sense of world events and know what’s coming.

  • Tom Hering

    Jonny @ 55, “one man and a Bible” is your definition of Sola Scriptura? Well, you’re absolutely wrong. A man is in direct opposition to Sola Scriptura when he (Pope or preacher) makes his pronouncememts, revelations, or interpretations equal in authority to the Word of God.

  • Tom Hering

    Jonny @ 55, “one man and a Bible” is your definition of Sola Scriptura? Well, you’re absolutely wrong. A man is in direct opposition to Sola Scriptura when he (Pope or preacher) makes his pronouncememts, revelations, or interpretations equal in authority to the Word of God.

  • WebMonk

    I’ve got to get busy if I want to finish Hard Magic before the big quake! Maybe I can put off cutting my grass for another day – if the end of the world is starting, I don’t think the HOA will be too upset if my grass gets a little long.

  • WebMonk

    I’ve got to get busy if I want to finish Hard Magic before the big quake! Maybe I can put off cutting my grass for another day – if the end of the world is starting, I don’t think the HOA will be too upset if my grass gets a little long.

  • Michael Lynch

    Where does 6pm come first in the world today? I want to start counting down another failed prediction.

    I’ve heard that Van Impe has given credence to the Mayan calender 2012 prophecy. Good grief.

  • Michael Lynch

    Where does 6pm come first in the world today? I want to start counting down another failed prediction.

    I’ve heard that Van Impe has given credence to the Mayan calender 2012 prophecy. Good grief.

  • Tom Hering

    Michael @ 63, New Zealand was first in line. 6 PM came and went there – surprise! – just like always.

  • Tom Hering

    Michael @ 63, New Zealand was first in line. 6 PM came and went there – surprise! – just like always.

  • Tom Hering

    Correction: the Pacific islands, Australia, and New Zealand were first in line.

  • Tom Hering

    Correction: the Pacific islands, Australia, and New Zealand were first in line.

  • Philip Lazar

    Nobody had asked a personal question directly to Mr. Harold Camping whether on 21st of May, 2011 at 6.00p.m will be raptured or caught-up??? Right now I think he is well alive in this earth thinking how to fool even more thru his family radio. He had proved strongly he is been deceived and a false teacher. If he comes up with some reply I want to tell him to transfer all his property and family radio in my name. He is damned to hell and not a Christian.

    Philip Lazar, Pastor
    India

  • Philip Lazar

    Nobody had asked a personal question directly to Mr. Harold Camping whether on 21st of May, 2011 at 6.00p.m will be raptured or caught-up??? Right now I think he is well alive in this earth thinking how to fool even more thru his family radio. He had proved strongly he is been deceived and a false teacher. If he comes up with some reply I want to tell him to transfer all his property and family radio in my name. He is damned to hell and not a Christian.

    Philip Lazar, Pastor
    India

  • Stephen

    Tom – I think you misread Jonny @55. Take a look at it again. I think he agrees with you and you are both correct. Beware the soloist with the bible in their lap picking and choosing and making it up as he/she goes along. Hmm? Sound like anyone who drops in around here?

    BW – I live in Austin and that Hagee guy is right down the road in San Antonio. He’s got a huge mural graphic thingy he puts up to explain how it’s all going to happen. I’m sure he sells all kinds of DVD paraphernalia and I know he’s got a book or two. And as for Van Impe, I regrettably have people in my own family that are swayed by that loon and his crunchy-haired dingbat wife at her “news” desk. The more press this gets the better. It’s like Oprah on the cover of Newsweek being exposed for hyping quack medicine. Perhaps it will do some people some real good and get them to turn away and listen for the real gospel of truth.

    Pastor Lazar – That’s a great idea! He should be pressured into giving his money to the poor!!! Someone start a Facebook page!

  • Stephen

    Tom – I think you misread Jonny @55. Take a look at it again. I think he agrees with you and you are both correct. Beware the soloist with the bible in their lap picking and choosing and making it up as he/she goes along. Hmm? Sound like anyone who drops in around here?

    BW – I live in Austin and that Hagee guy is right down the road in San Antonio. He’s got a huge mural graphic thingy he puts up to explain how it’s all going to happen. I’m sure he sells all kinds of DVD paraphernalia and I know he’s got a book or two. And as for Van Impe, I regrettably have people in my own family that are swayed by that loon and his crunchy-haired dingbat wife at her “news” desk. The more press this gets the better. It’s like Oprah on the cover of Newsweek being exposed for hyping quack medicine. Perhaps it will do some people some real good and get them to turn away and listen for the real gospel of truth.

    Pastor Lazar – That’s a great idea! He should be pressured into giving his money to the poor!!! Someone start a Facebook page!

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen, yes, I see what you mean about misreading Jonny’s post.

    English will not be the universal language of the afterlife.

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen, yes, I see what you mean about misreading Jonny’s post.

    English will not be the universal language of the afterlife.

  • Stephen

    Tom -

    I had a Hebrew teacher who started the semester by warning all of us that we’d better listen up because this was what they’d be speaking in heaven. I had to drop the class.

    Aleph, Bet, Gimmel, um, ah . . . I’m screwed.

    I can sing Havanagila!

  • Stephen

    Tom -

    I had a Hebrew teacher who started the semester by warning all of us that we’d better listen up because this was what they’d be speaking in heaven. I had to drop the class.

    Aleph, Bet, Gimmel, um, ah . . . I’m screwed.

    I can sing Havanagila!

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen, didn’t Camping come by his money through pure entrepreneurship? You’re going to upset some conservatives – certainly the Randoids and the Libertarians – by suggesting he should now give his money to the poor.

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen, didn’t Camping come by his money through pure entrepreneurship? You’re going to upset some conservatives – certainly the Randoids and the Libertarians – by suggesting he should now give his money to the poor.

  • SKPeterson

    I have no problems with people asking Camping to pay out to the poor. There’s nothing anti-libertarian about asking him to do so, but it is definitely anti-Randian.

  • SKPeterson

    I have no problems with people asking Camping to pay out to the poor. There’s nothing anti-libertarian about asking him to do so, but it is definitely anti-Randian.

  • D S

    Philip @ 66: Harold does not believe there is a hell.

  • D S

    Philip @ 66: Harold does not believe there is a hell.

  • Tom Hering

    SKPeterson, I’ve got to remember not to lump all Libertarians together. :-)

    So, what explanation is Camping going to come up with?

    I bet he claims that so many unbelievers were turned to God by his Rapture campaign, God relented and allowed the world to continue a while longer. In this way he can (1.) continue to be a hero to his followers, (2.) keep all the donations to his ministry, and (3.) set another date for the Rapture. Though he better be quick about it; he’s not getting any younger.

  • Tom Hering

    SKPeterson, I’ve got to remember not to lump all Libertarians together. :-)

    So, what explanation is Camping going to come up with?

    I bet he claims that so many unbelievers were turned to God by his Rapture campaign, God relented and allowed the world to continue a while longer. In this way he can (1.) continue to be a hero to his followers, (2.) keep all the donations to his ministry, and (3.) set another date for the Rapture. Though he better be quick about it; he’s not getting any younger.

  • Carl Vehse

    According to Deuteronomy 18:20 the false prophet should face another fate.

  • Carl Vehse

    According to Deuteronomy 18:20 the false prophet should face another fate.

  • Stephen

    Tom -

    It’s certainly a case of false advertising. I wonder if he issued rapture receipts. People will not get what they paid for. Or were these tax deductible donations? Maybe there is a racketeering law the government could get him on. But then where would the money go?

    I say that the same media that made this “Rapture Weekend” could help turn the screw even tighter and make him pay it to the poor out of pure public shame and humiliation. Meanwhile, invite his followers to a real church. They’re gonna need it.

  • Stephen

    Tom -

    It’s certainly a case of false advertising. I wonder if he issued rapture receipts. People will not get what they paid for. Or were these tax deductible donations? Maybe there is a racketeering law the government could get him on. But then where would the money go?

    I say that the same media that made this “Rapture Weekend” could help turn the screw even tighter and make him pay it to the poor out of pure public shame and humiliation. Meanwhile, invite his followers to a real church. They’re gonna need it.

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen, Rapture rain checks. :-D

  • Tom Hering

    Stephen, Rapture rain checks. :-D

  • steve

    Camping is actually a good example of how a cult leader begins. He’s stubborn, arrogant, individualist, and quite intelligent. This is not a great combination to begin with. Combine that with a solid willingness to live in denial and you have a very bad combination. He really does have a remarkable combination of denial and self-assurance. Once his date comes and goes, he will just develop another date and be as adamant about that date as he was about the previous ones. At any rate, his vast knowledge of the English Bible (KJV) and historic creeds and confessions of the church make him an easy target for people looking for answers. Those people then become his sounding board. So, even though his divisiveness got him tossed from the CRC, his new followers gave him the feedback he needed and since what they said about his agreed with his views of himself, he just got more quickly entrenched in his own views. Fortunately, I don’t think he’s developed any theology that put his followers, or those around them, in any physical harm. He could easily be a David Koresh or a Jim Jones.

  • steve

    Camping is actually a good example of how a cult leader begins. He’s stubborn, arrogant, individualist, and quite intelligent. This is not a great combination to begin with. Combine that with a solid willingness to live in denial and you have a very bad combination. He really does have a remarkable combination of denial and self-assurance. Once his date comes and goes, he will just develop another date and be as adamant about that date as he was about the previous ones. At any rate, his vast knowledge of the English Bible (KJV) and historic creeds and confessions of the church make him an easy target for people looking for answers. Those people then become his sounding board. So, even though his divisiveness got him tossed from the CRC, his new followers gave him the feedback he needed and since what they said about his agreed with his views of himself, he just got more quickly entrenched in his own views. Fortunately, I don’t think he’s developed any theology that put his followers, or those around them, in any physical harm. He could easily be a David Koresh or a Jim Jones.

  • steve

    Tom #73,

    I can’t find a link to the direct quote but I’ve ready that one of his followers claimed if the if Christ doesn’t return on May 21st it would prove that the Bible is wrong. No, not the Harold but the Bible. Amazing.

    The sad part is that this circus has solidified in many people’s minds that the Bible is wrong.

  • steve

    Tom #73,

    I can’t find a link to the direct quote but I’ve ready that one of his followers claimed if the if Christ doesn’t return on May 21st it would prove that the Bible is wrong. No, not the Harold but the Bible. Amazing.

    The sad part is that this circus has solidified in many people’s minds that the Bible is wrong.

  • Porcell

    How gauche of self-righteous critics of a certified fool to pile on.

  • Porcell

    How gauche of self-righteous critics of a certified fool to pile on.

  • SKPeterson

    steve @78 – “the Harold”. Now that’s funny.

  • SKPeterson

    steve @78 – “the Harold”. Now that’s funny.

  • Grace

    Reuters
    Broadcaster silent as Judgment Day hours tick by

    By Gabrielle Saveri Gabrielle Saveri – 1 hr 2 mins ago
    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – With no sign his forecast of Judgment Day arriving on Saturday has come true, the 89-year-old California evangelical broadcaster and former civil engineer behind the pronouncement seemed to have gone silent.

    Family Radio, the Christian stations network headed by Harold Camping which had spread his message of an approaching doomsday, was on Saturday playing recorded church music and devotional messages unrelated to the apocalypse.

    Camping previously made a failed prediction Jesus Christ would return to Earth in 1994.

    Another excerpt________

    On Friday, the shades were drawn and no one answered the door at his house in Alameda, California.

    Read the rest: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110521/ts_nm/us_apocalypse_prediction

  • Grace

    Reuters
    Broadcaster silent as Judgment Day hours tick by

    By Gabrielle Saveri Gabrielle Saveri – 1 hr 2 mins ago
    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – With no sign his forecast of Judgment Day arriving on Saturday has come true, the 89-year-old California evangelical broadcaster and former civil engineer behind the pronouncement seemed to have gone silent.

    Family Radio, the Christian stations network headed by Harold Camping which had spread his message of an approaching doomsday, was on Saturday playing recorded church music and devotional messages unrelated to the apocalypse.

    Camping previously made a failed prediction Jesus Christ would return to Earth in 1994.

    Another excerpt________

    On Friday, the shades were drawn and no one answered the door at his house in Alameda, California.

    Read the rest: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110521/ts_nm/us_apocalypse_prediction

  • Simone

    It’s 6:09 pm…

  • Simone

    It’s 6:09 pm…

  • Tom Hering

    From Reuters:

    In New York, at least one of Camping’s followers continued to hold out hope Judgment Day would come.

    Retired Metropolitan Transportation Authority worker Robert Fitzpatrick, 60, said he spent more than $140,000 of his savings on subway posters and bus shelter advertisements warning of the May 21 Judgment Day.

    “God’s people are commanded to sound the warning, to sound the trumpet so to speak so people know,” Fitzpatrick said of his advertising blitz.

    He said Camping led him to believe Judgment Day would be May 21, but added that he disagreed with the broadcaster’s prediction it would begin in Asia.

    In Fitzpatrick’s view, from his reading of the Bible, Judgment Day would begin around 6 p.m. Eastern Time. He said on Saturday he still had no doubt Judgment Day would come this day.

    “I wouldn’t even entertain that question because there’s too much proof from the Bible,” he said.

    It’s now 6:25 PM Eastern …

  • Tom Hering

    From Reuters:

    In New York, at least one of Camping’s followers continued to hold out hope Judgment Day would come.

    Retired Metropolitan Transportation Authority worker Robert Fitzpatrick, 60, said he spent more than $140,000 of his savings on subway posters and bus shelter advertisements warning of the May 21 Judgment Day.

    “God’s people are commanded to sound the warning, to sound the trumpet so to speak so people know,” Fitzpatrick said of his advertising blitz.

    He said Camping led him to believe Judgment Day would be May 21, but added that he disagreed with the broadcaster’s prediction it would begin in Asia.

    In Fitzpatrick’s view, from his reading of the Bible, Judgment Day would begin around 6 p.m. Eastern Time. He said on Saturday he still had no doubt Judgment Day would come this day.

    “I wouldn’t even entertain that question because there’s too much proof from the Bible,” he said.

    It’s now 6:25 PM Eastern …

  • Grace

    I feel sorry for all who have been duped into believing Harold Camping. We can pray for them, that they will study and understand God’s Word.

    I remember vividly a Bible Study my husband and I attended in the early 90′s. One night a couple were introduced, … it was obvious they were very different from everyone else. I found out that they believed the Rapture would transpire in 1994. I asked the mans wife how she could possibly believe such a thing, when the Bible clearly stated that no man knoweth.

    But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36

    I asked her what she would do if the Rapture never came about, she said a NEW date would be set, that they had just made a mistake.

    The whole thing is pitiful, it’s not humorous. The Bible speaks plainly about those who will be deceived.

    And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. Luke 21:8

  • Grace

    I feel sorry for all who have been duped into believing Harold Camping. We can pray for them, that they will study and understand God’s Word.

    I remember vividly a Bible Study my husband and I attended in the early 90′s. One night a couple were introduced, … it was obvious they were very different from everyone else. I found out that they believed the Rapture would transpire in 1994. I asked the mans wife how she could possibly believe such a thing, when the Bible clearly stated that no man knoweth.

    But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36

    I asked her what she would do if the Rapture never came about, she said a NEW date would be set, that they had just made a mistake.

    The whole thing is pitiful, it’s not humorous. The Bible speaks plainly about those who will be deceived.

    And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. Luke 21:8

  • Tom Hering

    6:15 PM Central … no earthquake here …

    As for the future, I just read that Dunkin’ Donuts will be opening six Central Wisconsin locations in 2012. Now that’s what I call rapturous! :-D

  • Tom Hering

    6:15 PM Central … no earthquake here …

    As for the future, I just read that Dunkin’ Donuts will be opening six Central Wisconsin locations in 2012. Now that’s what I call rapturous! :-D

  • Stephen

    Just got the steaks of the BBQ. But then I’m already in heaven. I live in Texas!

  • Stephen

    Just got the steaks of the BBQ. But then I’m already in heaven. I live in Texas!

  • Bryan Lindemood

    In a way, you almost feel sorry for these guys.

  • Bryan Lindemood

    In a way, you almost feel sorry for these guys.

  • helen

    Here in Texas, we’re getting intermittent warnings of thunderstorms with hail and high winds.
    But it’s still clear in Austin, where the Longhorn/Aggie game is still nothing-nothing after the fourth.

  • helen

    Here in Texas, we’re getting intermittent warnings of thunderstorms with hail and high winds.
    But it’s still clear in Austin, where the Longhorn/Aggie game is still nothing-nothing after the fourth.

  • Tom Hering

    From The Guardian:

    “Some people were saying it was going to be an earthquake at that specific time in New Zealand and be a rolling judgment, but God is keeping us in our place and saying you may know the day but you don’t know the hour,” Marie Exley, who helped put up billboards across the Middle East, told the AP from her home in Bozeman, Montana. “The day is not over, it’s just the morning, and we have to endure until the end.”

    A wrong belief becomes a desperate belief.

  • Tom Hering

    From The Guardian:

    “Some people were saying it was going to be an earthquake at that specific time in New Zealand and be a rolling judgment, but God is keeping us in our place and saying you may know the day but you don’t know the hour,” Marie Exley, who helped put up billboards across the Middle East, told the AP from her home in Bozeman, Montana. “The day is not over, it’s just the morning, and we have to endure until the end.”

    A wrong belief becomes a desperate belief.

  • Tom Hering

    Camping himself has the same desperate hope. From The Los Angeles Times:

    On Saturday morning, [Sue] Espinoza, 60, received a phone call from her father, Harold Camping, the 89-year-old Oakland preacher who has spent some $100 million — and countless hours on his radio and TV show — announcing May 21 as Judgment Day. “He just said, ‘I’m a little bewildered that it didn’t happen, but it’s still May 21 [in the United States],’” Espinoza said, standing in the doorway of her Alameda home. “It’s going to be May 21 from now until midnight.”

  • Tom Hering

    Camping himself has the same desperate hope. From The Los Angeles Times:

    On Saturday morning, [Sue] Espinoza, 60, received a phone call from her father, Harold Camping, the 89-year-old Oakland preacher who has spent some $100 million — and countless hours on his radio and TV show — announcing May 21 as Judgment Day. “He just said, ‘I’m a little bewildered that it didn’t happen, but it’s still May 21 [in the United States],’” Espinoza said, standing in the doorway of her Alameda home. “It’s going to be May 21 from now until midnight.”

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    Hey!

    Where am I?

    Am I the only one who disappeared?

    This is too wierd.

    (written from my blackberry – you’re allowed to bring one item)

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    Hey!

    Where am I?

    Am I the only one who disappeared?

    This is too wierd.

    (written from my blackberry – you’re allowed to bring one item)

  • Tom Hering

    Oh, that’s you, Steve – way off in the cloudy, celestial distance there. Yeah, this IS weird. When’s orientation?

  • Tom Hering

    Oh, that’s you, Steve – way off in the cloudy, celestial distance there. Yeah, this IS weird. When’s orientation?

  • helen

    Good morning, gentlemen!
    Hope you slept well?

  • helen

    Good morning, gentlemen!
    Hope you slept well?

  • Tom Hering

    You’re here too, Helen? I can just barely see Steve way off in the distance. I can’t see you at all. Not exactly crowded here, is it? Just us Lutherans. :-D

  • Tom Hering

    You’re here too, Helen? I can just barely see Steve way off in the distance. I can’t see you at all. Not exactly crowded here, is it? Just us Lutherans. :-D

  • Michael Lynch

    I’ve got a prediction. Camping’s going to admit he was wrong about yesterday (duh), but only partially. I bet he’ll say judgement has begun, but he was wrong about believers not going through it. The October date will still be the end. That’s when believers will be saved/raptured–along with end of world. He will probably also say no one will be saved during this time since that’s what he said would be the case after the supposed rapture yesterday. It will be interesting to see if he does the Open Forum tomorrow.

  • Michael Lynch

    I’ve got a prediction. Camping’s going to admit he was wrong about yesterday (duh), but only partially. I bet he’ll say judgement has begun, but he was wrong about believers not going through it. The October date will still be the end. That’s when believers will be saved/raptured–along with end of world. He will probably also say no one will be saved during this time since that’s what he said would be the case after the supposed rapture yesterday. It will be interesting to see if he does the Open Forum tomorrow.

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    “Not exactly crowded here, is it? Just us Lutherans.”

    I think they have us sequestered in a special room (all us Lutherans) I see Marty over there trying to convince Melancthon how dumb that “3rd use thing was. They each have a giant beer, that never goes lower in the stein as they drink them.

    I do hear a lot of partying going on outside the wall, though.

    Maybe we aren’t alone…

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    “Not exactly crowded here, is it? Just us Lutherans.”

    I think they have us sequestered in a special room (all us Lutherans) I see Marty over there trying to convince Melancthon how dumb that “3rd use thing was. They each have a giant beer, that never goes lower in the stein as they drink them.

    I do hear a lot of partying going on outside the wall, though.

    Maybe we aren’t alone…


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