Obama, Henry VIII, and tooth-level surveillance

Mark Steyn compares President Obama’s religion policies to those of Henry VIII, whose “Act of Supremacy” gave him sole authority over his subjects’ faith and practice.  You need to read what he says.

But I draw your attention to just two parts of that essay.  The first, where he quotes a provision of Obamacare that gives Secretary of Health & Human Services Kathleen Sibelius authority over our teeth:

“The Secretary shall develop oral healthcare components that shall include tooth-level surveillance.”

The second is his conclusion, which is a strikingly-phrased statement of the dangers of big government:

The bigger the Big Government, the smaller everything else: First, other pillars of civil society are crowded out of the public space; then, the individual gets crowded out, even in his most private, tooth-level space. President Obama, Commissar Sebelius, and many others believe in one-size-fits-all national government — uniformity, conformity, supremacy from Maine to Hawaii, for all but favored cronies. It is a doomed experiment — and on the morning after it will take a lot more than a morning-after pill to make it all go away.

via The Church of Obama – Mark Steyn – National Review Online.

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • Booklover

    Obama has always spoken like a king (“This is what *I* want, This is what *I* see, This is what *I* need”), so his comparison with Henry VIII is no accident.

    Mark Steyn is insightful as well as hilarious.

  • Booklover

    Obama has always spoken like a king (“This is what *I* want, This is what *I* see, This is what *I* need”), so his comparison with Henry VIII is no accident.

    Mark Steyn is insightful as well as hilarious.

  • Tom Hering

    Conservatives are spooked about the possibility that government might exercise authority over our teeth? Good grief. This is getting ridiculous.

    “Tooth-level surveillance” has been going on since 1988 (Reagan’s administration) and as best I understand it, it’s the way the CDC compiles statistics on oral disease. And on the effectiveness of national efforts to improve the oral health of grade school kids (among others). Yup, it’s a long-running program aimed (in part) at improving the health of our kids. And “tooth-level surveillance” means that in regular surveys, teeth are actually examined by a dentist. Downright scary and Orwellian, huh? [Insert dentist jokes and Marathon Man references here.]

    So I guess what we have here is a 21st century version of the Commie flouridation scare. And Mark Steyn trying to sell his latest book. Which he’s careful, early on in his article, to tell us is coming out.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5403a1.htm

  • Tom Hering

    Conservatives are spooked about the possibility that government might exercise authority over our teeth? Good grief. This is getting ridiculous.

    “Tooth-level surveillance” has been going on since 1988 (Reagan’s administration) and as best I understand it, it’s the way the CDC compiles statistics on oral disease. And on the effectiveness of national efforts to improve the oral health of grade school kids (among others). Yup, it’s a long-running program aimed (in part) at improving the health of our kids. And “tooth-level surveillance” means that in regular surveys, teeth are actually examined by a dentist. Downright scary and Orwellian, huh? [Insert dentist jokes and Marathon Man references here.]

    So I guess what we have here is a 21st century version of the Commie flouridation scare. And Mark Steyn trying to sell his latest book. Which he’s careful, early on in his article, to tell us is coming out.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5403a1.htm

  • Cincinnatus

    Tom:

    Why yes, I do happen to have a problem with massive agencies like the CDC conducting vast data-collection exercises on the American public. It’s been going on for decades, of course. But remember: knowledge is power, pouvoir-savoir.

  • Cincinnatus

    Tom:

    Why yes, I do happen to have a problem with massive agencies like the CDC conducting vast data-collection exercises on the American public. It’s been going on for decades, of course. But remember: knowledge is power, pouvoir-savoir.

  • Tom Hering

    Cincinnatus, you mean like the Constitutionally-mandated census?

  • Tom Hering

    Cincinnatus, you mean like the Constitutionally-mandated census?

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    Government is WAY TOO INTRUSIVE.

    So much of what they do is none of their business. But, the “liberal” do-gooders will never quit.

    I’m thankful to Mark Steyn and those like him for trying to sound a warning. And he is very funny.

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    Government is WAY TOO INTRUSIVE.

    So much of what they do is none of their business. But, the “liberal” do-gooders will never quit.

    I’m thankful to Mark Steyn and those like him for trying to sound a warning. And he is very funny.

  • Cincinnatus

    Tom@4: Yeah, censuses are annoying, but at least they’re constitutionally mandated, and they are necessary for apportioning representatives. Of course, the census was once merely a counting of heads for those bare purposes. Now it too is a massive data-collection enterprise.

    Mark Steyn is annoying, but Tom, you have to ask yourself: if the government is permitted–and apparently empowered!–to examine our dental hygiene at an individual, microscopic level, then how do we simultaneously maintain grounds upon which to condemn the government for, say, collecting statistics on internet usage or travel habits or any other data about our lives that most of us would consider intrusive? Yeah, dental surveillance is a bit of an unusual and arbitrary issue to stake as our Waterloo, but I understand the skeptical sentiment.

    Cool Story time: my mom was recently diagnosed with a case of chronic Lyme’s disease–the kind that infests your joints and organs, and presents odd symptoms. She wanted a second opinion, however, because diagnoses like these are a) often mistaken and b) involve a long relationship henceforth with a complex cocktail of liver-assaulting pharmaceuticals. “No,” said the doctor, “your diagnosis has already been reported to the CDC!” Now, I have no idea of the legality surrounding this claim: probably she could have sought a second opinion or refused treatment, but there was certainly, erm, bureaucratic pressure being brought to bear.

    In any case, read Foucault. For all his faults, he’s 100% correct in noting that efforts to advance “public health” have been one of the most effective instruments for consolidating modern state power. “Public health” has provided cover for a multitude of sins.

  • Cincinnatus

    Tom@4: Yeah, censuses are annoying, but at least they’re constitutionally mandated, and they are necessary for apportioning representatives. Of course, the census was once merely a counting of heads for those bare purposes. Now it too is a massive data-collection enterprise.

    Mark Steyn is annoying, but Tom, you have to ask yourself: if the government is permitted–and apparently empowered!–to examine our dental hygiene at an individual, microscopic level, then how do we simultaneously maintain grounds upon which to condemn the government for, say, collecting statistics on internet usage or travel habits or any other data about our lives that most of us would consider intrusive? Yeah, dental surveillance is a bit of an unusual and arbitrary issue to stake as our Waterloo, but I understand the skeptical sentiment.

    Cool Story time: my mom was recently diagnosed with a case of chronic Lyme’s disease–the kind that infests your joints and organs, and presents odd symptoms. She wanted a second opinion, however, because diagnoses like these are a) often mistaken and b) involve a long relationship henceforth with a complex cocktail of liver-assaulting pharmaceuticals. “No,” said the doctor, “your diagnosis has already been reported to the CDC!” Now, I have no idea of the legality surrounding this claim: probably she could have sought a second opinion or refused treatment, but there was certainly, erm, bureaucratic pressure being brought to bear.

    In any case, read Foucault. For all his faults, he’s 100% correct in noting that efforts to advance “public health” have been one of the most effective instruments for consolidating modern state power. “Public health” has provided cover for a multitude of sins.

  • Tom Hering

    Public health efforts have done both good and bad. The eradication of polio (begun by FDR) being an example of the former. Eugenics being an example of the latter (and the darkest stain on progressivism).

  • Tom Hering

    Public health efforts have done both good and bad. The eradication of polio (begun by FDR) being an example of the former. Eugenics being an example of the latter (and the darkest stain on progressivism).

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    This is clearly getting ridiculous.

    With the excepetion of two or three consistent guys, (Cincinnatus, Webmonk, Todd, maybe others) the majority here are getting plainly ridicuolous. Ah, Obama is intruding in your lives!! Wahhhh!

    And where are the complaints about all those Republicans who supported the Patriot Act? Who supported seeing exactly what Library books you read? You know that one of them is currently leading the polls, right?

    Exactly. The hypocracy is deafening.

    And Veith, you still haven’t corrected your mistake about the same Mr Steyn and the Human Rights complaint in Canada. It was dismissed. Twice. Need I give the reference again?

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    This is clearly getting ridiculous.

    With the excepetion of two or three consistent guys, (Cincinnatus, Webmonk, Todd, maybe others) the majority here are getting plainly ridicuolous. Ah, Obama is intruding in your lives!! Wahhhh!

    And where are the complaints about all those Republicans who supported the Patriot Act? Who supported seeing exactly what Library books you read? You know that one of them is currently leading the polls, right?

    Exactly. The hypocracy is deafening.

    And Veith, you still haven’t corrected your mistake about the same Mr Steyn and the Human Rights complaint in Canada. It was dismissed. Twice. Need I give the reference again?

  • kenneth

    It seems tome that we have an example in the person of Adoph Hitler in this woe betide the times. Obamas bid for power, absolute power is more stealthy than Hitlers was beccause his was fascist whereas Obama is mired in communist ideology.

    You know that the constituiton has no place in his admistration. For example Eric Holder and his violation of DOMA, clearly there is no place in the constitution for such a move and is a bit like Hitler’s moves that at first were looking innocent. Later full blown fascism took over. It might be a bit of an overstatment to liken the Democrats to totalitatarian overtones. One might as well include the Republicans although they can retard the drift.

  • kenneth

    It seems tome that we have an example in the person of Adoph Hitler in this woe betide the times. Obamas bid for power, absolute power is more stealthy than Hitlers was beccause his was fascist whereas Obama is mired in communist ideology.

    You know that the constituiton has no place in his admistration. For example Eric Holder and his violation of DOMA, clearly there is no place in the constitution for such a move and is a bit like Hitler’s moves that at first were looking innocent. Later full blown fascism took over. It might be a bit of an overstatment to liken the Democrats to totalitatarian overtones. One might as well include the Republicans although they can retard the drift.

  • Patrick Kyle

    My only consolation is that soon the government will go broke and won’t be ab;e to afford all this crap.

  • Patrick Kyle

    My only consolation is that soon the government will go broke and won’t be ab;e to afford all this crap.

  • Cincinnatus

    Wow. Ok, I’m out; nothing to do here!

  • Cincinnatus

    Wow. Ok, I’m out; nothing to do here!

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    Cincinnatus – I’ll accompany you. Email me at my username, one word, all lower caps at gmail, if you have a moment.

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    Cincinnatus – I’ll accompany you. Email me at my username, one word, all lower caps at gmail, if you have a moment.

  • Joe

    To bad this went of the rails before I saw the thread …

    But to Tom – I have a big problem with what they ask in the census and refused to tell them anything other the number of people living at my address. They are not entitled to anything more. I have an even bigger problem with the census worker who spent 20 minutes attempting to convince me to give him additional details such as occupation, income, etc. of my neighbor who was not home when the worker stopped by our block.

  • Joe

    To bad this went of the rails before I saw the thread …

    But to Tom – I have a big problem with what they ask in the census and refused to tell them anything other the number of people living at my address. They are not entitled to anything more. I have an even bigger problem with the census worker who spent 20 minutes attempting to convince me to give him additional details such as occupation, income, etc. of my neighbor who was not home when the worker stopped by our block.

  • #4 Kitty

    @kenneth #9

    It seems tome that we have an example in the person of Adoph Hitler in this woe betide the times. Obamas bid for power, absolute power is more stealthy than Hitlers was beccause his was fascist whereas Obama is mired in communist ideology.

    I just consulted Godwin’s Law and it says you fail.

  • #4 Kitty

    @kenneth #9

    It seems tome that we have an example in the person of Adoph Hitler in this woe betide the times. Obamas bid for power, absolute power is more stealthy than Hitlers was beccause his was fascist whereas Obama is mired in communist ideology.

    I just consulted Godwin’s Law and it says you fail.

  • SKPeterson

    Steyn ends up being a blowhard so often it’s hard to take him seriously on this. He’s exactly the sort of hypocrite KK decries.

    I distrust the sorts of measures he rails against in his article, but he’s also the sort that thinks we need to have all sorts of intrusive surveillance of other varieties. Granted these are necessary in order to keep us safe from __________. Enter your own favorite bugaboo in the blank space provided.

    Suggestions – Muslims, terrorists, Communists, Nazi’s, feminists, Catholics, Jews, Iranians, the Irish, Mexicans, the Poles, kiddie porn, drugs, bad drivers, redneck militias, insurance companies, Wal-Mart, Wall Street, OWS, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, racy novels, anyone who might make a profit, Madonna, silly awards shows on tv, free tv, cable tv, Google, Canadians, blacks, whites, free thinkers, evangelicals. The list goes on and on.

  • SKPeterson

    Steyn ends up being a blowhard so often it’s hard to take him seriously on this. He’s exactly the sort of hypocrite KK decries.

    I distrust the sorts of measures he rails against in his article, but he’s also the sort that thinks we need to have all sorts of intrusive surveillance of other varieties. Granted these are necessary in order to keep us safe from __________. Enter your own favorite bugaboo in the blank space provided.

    Suggestions – Muslims, terrorists, Communists, Nazi’s, feminists, Catholics, Jews, Iranians, the Irish, Mexicans, the Poles, kiddie porn, drugs, bad drivers, redneck militias, insurance companies, Wal-Mart, Wall Street, OWS, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, racy novels, anyone who might make a profit, Madonna, silly awards shows on tv, free tv, cable tv, Google, Canadians, blacks, whites, free thinkers, evangelicals. The list goes on and on.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Public health efforts have done both good and bad. The eradication of polio (begun by FDR) being an example of the former.

    Polio has not been eradicated. It is still endemic in various populations. This, of course is not FDR’s fault, nor is the fact that the first polio vaccine was administered in 1950. I am sure he wanted to eradicate it. Everyone else did, too. There is nothing wrong with promoting the general welfare, but anyone could see that polio vaccines would be enormously profitable. As soon as science advanced to the point that investing in such research made it an attractive investment, someone was going to develop and distribute it.

    Eugenics being an example of the latter (and the darkest stain on progressivism).

    Planned Parenthood is still playing the eugenics game.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Public health efforts have done both good and bad. The eradication of polio (begun by FDR) being an example of the former.

    Polio has not been eradicated. It is still endemic in various populations. This, of course is not FDR’s fault, nor is the fact that the first polio vaccine was administered in 1950. I am sure he wanted to eradicate it. Everyone else did, too. There is nothing wrong with promoting the general welfare, but anyone could see that polio vaccines would be enormously profitable. As soon as science advanced to the point that investing in such research made it an attractive investment, someone was going to develop and distribute it.

    Eugenics being an example of the latter (and the darkest stain on progressivism).

    Planned Parenthood is still playing the eugenics game.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Steyn ends up being a blowhard so often it’s hard to take him seriously on this. He’s exactly the sort of hypocrite KK decries.

    Eyeroll.

    Who is not a hypocrite?

    What is the point of decrying hypocrites?

    How about just look at what is said and ignore the by line?

    Either the point is valid, or it isn’t that is it.

    Who cares if it is Steyn or Obama making the argument. It doesn’t matter.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Steyn ends up being a blowhard so often it’s hard to take him seriously on this. He’s exactly the sort of hypocrite KK decries.

    Eyeroll.

    Who is not a hypocrite?

    What is the point of decrying hypocrites?

    How about just look at what is said and ignore the by line?

    Either the point is valid, or it isn’t that is it.

    Who cares if it is Steyn or Obama making the argument. It doesn’t matter.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “I just consulted Godwin’s Law and it says you fail.”

    Hey, look. Kitty showed up to gratuitously insult someone and not even make a point.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “I just consulted Godwin’s Law and it says you fail.”

    Hey, look. Kitty showed up to gratuitously insult someone and not even make a point.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Godwin’s Law seems to be used in a sort of opposition to the affirmation that we should never forget how fragile our freedom is. Consider this excerpt from the the Holocaust Museum’s mission statement.

    The Museum’s primary mission is to advance and disseminate knowledge about this unprecedented tragedy; to preserve the memory of those who suffered; and to encourage its visitors to reflect upon the moral and spiritual questions raised by the events of the Holocaust as well as their own responsibilities as citizens of a democracy.

    http://www.ushmm.org/museum/mission/

    Far better to have excessive roadblocks to government power than to have too few.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Godwin’s Law seems to be used in a sort of opposition to the affirmation that we should never forget how fragile our freedom is. Consider this excerpt from the the Holocaust Museum’s mission statement.

    The Museum’s primary mission is to advance and disseminate knowledge about this unprecedented tragedy; to preserve the memory of those who suffered; and to encourage its visitors to reflect upon the moral and spiritual questions raised by the events of the Holocaust as well as their own responsibilities as citizens of a democracy.

    http://www.ushmm.org/museum/mission/

    Far better to have excessive roadblocks to government power than to have too few.

  • SKPeterson

    sg – My point about Steyn is that his complaint against the Administration is of the mote and log variety.

  • SKPeterson

    sg – My point about Steyn is that his complaint against the Administration is of the mote and log variety.

  • #4 Kitty

    @sg #18

    Hey, look. Kitty showed up to gratuitously insult someone and not even make a point.

    Yeah, that’s very amusing sg except when you consider that zOMG ADOLPH HITLER!!! used to accuse his detractors of the very same thing.

  • #4 Kitty

    @sg #18

    Hey, look. Kitty showed up to gratuitously insult someone and not even make a point.

    Yeah, that’s very amusing sg except when you consider that zOMG ADOLPH HITLER!!! used to accuse his detractors of the very same thing.

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    I wasn’t going to comment anymore, but I came across something, and I would like to recommend this to all here:

    http://xkcd.com/1013/

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    I wasn’t going to comment anymore, but I came across something, and I would like to recommend this to all here:

    http://xkcd.com/1013/

  • Steve Billingsley

    Klasie @ 22
    That was hilarious.

  • Steve Billingsley

    Klasie @ 22
    That was hilarious.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    @ 21

    Huh?

    Makes no sense.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    @ 21

    Huh?

    Makes no sense.

  • Bob

    Hitler? Obama?

    Wow.

    B-bye.

  • Bob

    Hitler? Obama?

    Wow.

    B-bye.

  • http://www.whenisayrunrun.blogspot.com Andrew

    While the first amendment is a major issue in these debates, my concern is the growth of the presidency (now and in the past) which would mean far more than 1st amendment rights.

  • http://www.whenisayrunrun.blogspot.com Andrew

    While the first amendment is a major issue in these debates, my concern is the growth of the presidency (now and in the past) which would mean far more than 1st amendment rights.

  • http://www.whenisayrunrun.blogspot.com Andrew

    correction- which would be far worse than just a first amendment right issue.

  • http://www.whenisayrunrun.blogspot.com Andrew

    correction- which would be far worse than just a first amendment right issue.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    @ 26, 27

    Growth of presidency = greater rule of men

    First Amendment = rule of law

    Needless to say there is no shortage of bad rulers in history that we should avoid rule of men and prefer rule of law. I won’t name any of those men, as some sensitive souls here may become so provoked they will resort to insult mode.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    @ 26, 27

    Growth of presidency = greater rule of men

    First Amendment = rule of law

    Needless to say there is no shortage of bad rulers in history that we should avoid rule of men and prefer rule of law. I won’t name any of those men, as some sensitive souls here may become so provoked they will resort to insult mode.

  • Jon

    While these whiny “non partisan” religious groups complain about a war on relgion, their tax exemptions cost this country billions. Persecute me like that, Mr. Obama.

  • Jon

    While these whiny “non partisan” religious groups complain about a war on relgion, their tax exemptions cost this country billions. Persecute me like that, Mr. Obama.

  • kenneth

    Dear Kitty,

    I am sorry about the mispelling but I must admit that is about all I am sorry about and that includes Godwin’s Law. My analogy still stands even though wikipedia thinks it doesn’t.

    The left charachterizes the right as fascist every time. I am just sayin what is obvious to me. Obama has no morals except for showtime whether he uses left rhetoric or right. He is liken to either HItler or Stalin even though wikipedia would ban such thinking. But who is or are wikipedia?

  • kenneth

    Dear Kitty,

    I am sorry about the mispelling but I must admit that is about all I am sorry about and that includes Godwin’s Law. My analogy still stands even though wikipedia thinks it doesn’t.

    The left charachterizes the right as fascist every time. I am just sayin what is obvious to me. Obama has no morals except for showtime whether he uses left rhetoric or right. He is liken to either HItler or Stalin even though wikipedia would ban such thinking. But who is or are wikipedia?

  • #4 Kitty

    @kenneth #30

    Yes, but wouldn’t you agree that a casual or flippant overuse of the Hitler comparison should be avoided as it waters down the impact of any valid usage? You’re comparing the architect of the Holocaust to a directionless, mediocre president. I mean surely Clinton or Nixon is guilty of worse offenses than this milquetoast. Who would you compare them to?

  • #4 Kitty

    @kenneth #30

    Yes, but wouldn’t you agree that a casual or flippant overuse of the Hitler comparison should be avoided as it waters down the impact of any valid usage? You’re comparing the architect of the Holocaust to a directionless, mediocre president. I mean surely Clinton or Nixon is guilty of worse offenses than this milquetoast. Who would you compare them to?

  • John C

    Hilarity and insight are qualities not often associated with Mark Steyn, Booklover.
    I think he is suffering an accute form of dental envy.

  • John C

    Hilarity and insight are qualities not often associated with Mark Steyn, Booklover.
    I think he is suffering an accute form of dental envy.

  • Tom Hering

    I might just follow the lead of Steyn and Hitchens by moving to another country and pandering to its right wing. There seems to be fame and money in it. Maybe Russia, where I could write pro-Putin articles, and hear accolades like “This American understands Russia better than our traitorous liberals! And he’s so funny!” But which accent would I need to practice in order to really impress them?

  • Tom Hering

    I might just follow the lead of Steyn and Hitchens by moving to another country and pandering to its right wing. There seems to be fame and money in it. Maybe Russia, where I could write pro-Putin articles, and hear accolades like “This American understands Russia better than our traitorous liberals! And he’s so funny!” But which accent would I need to practice in order to really impress them?

  • kenneth

    Kitty,

    I agree I have used hyperbole but I don’t think a mediocre president has much to do a about a perenial problem, namely tyrants. HItler was no genius except as an evil one. But he is often characterized as less than intelligent, perhaps stupid really. He made more military blunders that helped us win the war than anyone else in the war.

    Stalin was a super genius and used Christianity to his advantage in his climb up the soviet ladder. Either way Obama whether smart or dumb could be a start for another turn to totalitarianism. It could be much worse the next time. Everything is ready as it was when Orwell wrote his classic on the 20th century drift to oblivion.

  • kenneth

    Kitty,

    I agree I have used hyperbole but I don’t think a mediocre president has much to do a about a perenial problem, namely tyrants. HItler was no genius except as an evil one. But he is often characterized as less than intelligent, perhaps stupid really. He made more military blunders that helped us win the war than anyone else in the war.

    Stalin was a super genius and used Christianity to his advantage in his climb up the soviet ladder. Either way Obama whether smart or dumb could be a start for another turn to totalitarianism. It could be much worse the next time. Everything is ready as it was when Orwell wrote his classic on the 20th century drift to oblivion.

  • Tom Hering

    How could the parallels with Hitler not be obvious to everyone? Obama is so … Aryan.

  • Tom Hering

    How could the parallels with Hitler not be obvious to everyone? Obama is so … Aryan.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “While these whiny “non partisan” religious groups complain about a war on relgion, their tax exemptions cost this country billions.”

    Silly.

    They don’t make any money. No profits means nothing to tax. Businesses that lose money don’t pay tax either. There literally is nothing to tax.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “While these whiny “non partisan” religious groups complain about a war on relgion, their tax exemptions cost this country billions.”

    Silly.

    They don’t make any money. No profits means nothing to tax. Businesses that lose money don’t pay tax either. There literally is nothing to tax.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    But which accent would I need to practice in order to really impress them?

    Valley Girl

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    But which accent would I need to practice in order to really impress them?

    Valley Girl

  • Tom Hering

    Like, I’m so sure. Duh.

  • Tom Hering

    Like, I’m so sure. Duh.

  • John C

    I would not get too agitated over President Obama, Ken.
    Liberals don’t want to rule the world.
    It’s Rick Santorium you’ve got to worry about.

  • John C

    I would not get too agitated over President Obama, Ken.
    Liberals don’t want to rule the world.
    It’s Rick Santorium you’ve got to worry about.

  • Booklover

    Contraceptives are easy to get in this country. Obama only handed down this edict to extend control into our lives, and to make those of us who believe in a higher God bow down to him. I wonder where he will extend his claws next.

    First they came for the Catholics. . .

    And, I wonder, why the fixation on wanting our country to have fewer and fewer citizens?

  • Booklover

    Contraceptives are easy to get in this country. Obama only handed down this edict to extend control into our lives, and to make those of us who believe in a higher God bow down to him. I wonder where he will extend his claws next.

    First they came for the Catholics. . .

    And, I wonder, why the fixation on wanting our country to have fewer and fewer citizens?

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “And, I wonder, why the fixation on wanting our country to have fewer and fewer citizens?”

    Operative word “citizen” folks with full rights and with that same independent spirit that won’t just take a tater and wait.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “And, I wonder, why the fixation on wanting our country to have fewer and fewer citizens?”

    Operative word “citizen” folks with full rights and with that same independent spirit that won’t just take a tater and wait.


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