The Vice Presidential debate

Tonight is the Vice Presidential debate between Republican Paul Ryan and Democratic incumbent Joe Biden.  Shall we live blog it, as we did with the first presidential debate?  Meet here at 9:00 ET.   I’ll start a new post for that.

In the meantime, we can talk about the upcoming debate here.  Will what the vice presidential candidates do in the debate matter?  We can expect Vice President Biden to learn from his boss’s lethargic performance and come out swinging.  But that is not always a pretty sight, especially from someone as gaffe-prone as Biden is.  Ryan is relatively untried on such a big stage.  He reportedly can get wonky, which may or may not play well.  What are your predictions?

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • Tom Hering

    I predict nobody’s going to vote for either one of these guys.

  • Tom Hering

    I predict nobody’s going to vote for either one of these guys.

  • Tom Hering

    I also predict the debate is tomorrow night. :-)

  • Tom Hering

    I also predict the debate is tomorrow night. :-)

  • Pete

    Ryan will be losing but Raul Ibanez will come on for the Repubs and hit first the tying, and then the winning home runs.

  • Pete

    Ryan will be losing but Raul Ibanez will come on for the Repubs and hit first the tying, and then the winning home runs.

  • Pete

    Or is it “Ibañez”?

  • Pete

    Or is it “Ibañez”?

  • SKPeterson

    I predict I’ll probably be doing something else.

  • SKPeterson

    I predict I’ll probably be doing something else.

  • http://theoldadam.com/ Steve Martin

    It’s not a fair fight. Biden hasn’t the capacity to debate anyone over the age of 9.

    Somebody should stop this before someone gets hurt.

  • http://theoldadam.com/ Steve Martin

    It’s not a fair fight. Biden hasn’t the capacity to debate anyone over the age of 9.

    Somebody should stop this before someone gets hurt.

  • Lou G.

    I think the key to this debate is: who will appeal the most to the conservative blue collar demographic.
    That group is the slice that Obama insulted in 2008 when he spoke in SF about how when these people get anxious politically they cling to their guns and religion. These are the people who have regretted putting their trust in Obama/Biden more than other. They’re not true democrats on the social and moral issues, but they are very suspiscious and distrustful of anti-labor/uber-free market Republicans. Obama has painted Romney as a type of “Mr. Burns”, so hopefully Ryan can come across more like one of them and someone who gets them.
    That’s my $.02 for all it’s worth!

  • Lou G.

    I think the key to this debate is: who will appeal the most to the conservative blue collar demographic.
    That group is the slice that Obama insulted in 2008 when he spoke in SF about how when these people get anxious politically they cling to their guns and religion. These are the people who have regretted putting their trust in Obama/Biden more than other. They’re not true democrats on the social and moral issues, but they are very suspiscious and distrustful of anti-labor/uber-free market Republicans. Obama has painted Romney as a type of “Mr. Burns”, so hopefully Ryan can come across more like one of them and someone who gets them.
    That’s my $.02 for all it’s worth!

  • MarkB

    I think it will be an uphill battle for Ryan. First the expectations are for Ryan to bury Biden. Second the Democrats will have learned their lesson from the first presdential debate and not be unprepared. Third this is a different format and a different moderator and I am going to say that the moderator will not allow open debate between Ryan and Biden and will suppress any attempt by Ryan to counter things that Biden says whether they are true or not. However, I am willing to be surprised.

  • MarkB

    I think it will be an uphill battle for Ryan. First the expectations are for Ryan to bury Biden. Second the Democrats will have learned their lesson from the first presdential debate and not be unprepared. Third this is a different format and a different moderator and I am going to say that the moderator will not allow open debate between Ryan and Biden and will suppress any attempt by Ryan to counter things that Biden says whether they are true or not. However, I am willing to be surprised.

  • Richard Lewer

    It’s Biden and the moderator against Ryan. None of the rest of the moderators of the debates are neutral. Why does this happen?

    Nevertheless, Ryan, like Romney, can show that he is not the guy that the Dems have been running against. It is hard to continue the smear against a straw man when the real person shows up and speaks for himself.

  • Richard Lewer

    It’s Biden and the moderator against Ryan. None of the rest of the moderators of the debates are neutral. Why does this happen?

    Nevertheless, Ryan, like Romney, can show that he is not the guy that the Dems have been running against. It is hard to continue the smear against a straw man when the real person shows up and speaks for himself.

  • DonS

    Although those of us who follow politics closely know Ryan well, many Americans tuning into the debate tonight will become acquainted with him for the first time. I think that will be a good thing.

    Biden will be the designated “attack dog” tonight. Any resemblance between what he says and truth will be purely coincidental.

  • DonS

    Although those of us who follow politics closely know Ryan well, many Americans tuning into the debate tonight will become acquainted with him for the first time. I think that will be a good thing.

    Biden will be the designated “attack dog” tonight. Any resemblance between what he says and truth will be purely coincidental.

  • Jon H.

    @6, Steve, best take-down of Sarah Palin I’ve ever read. Thanks for that.

  • Jon H.

    @6, Steve, best take-down of Sarah Palin I’ve ever read. Thanks for that.

  • Jim_777

    Joe Biden is something of a buffoon and will probably make a fool of himself tonight (as usual), but I find him less odious than most liberal Democrats. Maybe it’s his clownish air, his giant teeth, his ludicrous hair-plugs, his hammy grin, but there’s just something likable about the guy. (Obviously, he and his boss have been complete failures and I expect Mr. Ryan to patiently explain that unfortunate fact in explicit, depressing detail.) Forward (into total fiscal disaster)!

  • Jim_777

    Joe Biden is something of a buffoon and will probably make a fool of himself tonight (as usual), but I find him less odious than most liberal Democrats. Maybe it’s his clownish air, his giant teeth, his ludicrous hair-plugs, his hammy grin, but there’s just something likable about the guy. (Obviously, he and his boss have been complete failures and I expect Mr. Ryan to patiently explain that unfortunate fact in explicit, depressing detail.) Forward (into total fiscal disaster)!

  • Carl Vehse

    Here’s Time magazine’s Pre-Debate photo of the two Vice-Presidential candidates. Paul Ryan is on the left.

  • Carl Vehse

    Here’s Time magazine’s Pre-Debate photo of the two Vice-Presidential candidates. Paul Ryan is on the left.

  • NavyMom

    Congressman Ryan will be at a disadvantage since the ‘moderator’ is a close personal friend of the President’s. He attended her wedding. I’m sure Ryan has been well coached, but it depends on how looney Uncle Joe acts tonight. Biden might over-compensate for his boss’ pathetic performance against Romney. Should be fun to watch!

  • NavyMom

    Congressman Ryan will be at a disadvantage since the ‘moderator’ is a close personal friend of the President’s. He attended her wedding. I’m sure Ryan has been well coached, but it depends on how looney Uncle Joe acts tonight. Biden might over-compensate for his boss’ pathetic performance against Romney. Should be fun to watch!


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