Pearl Harbor day

Today is the 71st anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, plunging the United States into World War.

See Attack on Pearl Harbor – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Do you think we will ever again have a world war; that is, war on a global scale?

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Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • James Sarver

    World wars don’t start out as that, they grow into it. I think that having nuclear weapons available will prevent a smaller conflict from growing into something of that scale. Nobody will want to do something on a scale that would invite the use of those weapons. If they are ever used again the conflict will be short.

  • James Sarver

    World wars don’t start out as that, they grow into it. I think that having nuclear weapons available will prevent a smaller conflict from growing into something of that scale. Nobody will want to do something on a scale that would invite the use of those weapons. If they are ever used again the conflict will be short.

  • Carl Vehse

    We’re in a war now with islamists. It just hasn’t gotten to the nuclear level… yet.

  • Carl Vehse

    We’re in a war now with islamists. It just hasn’t gotten to the nuclear level… yet.

  • kerner

    @2:

    You beat me to it, Carl.

  • kerner

    @2:

    You beat me to it, Carl.

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    I’m very doubtful about big conventional wars. Even the so-called “war-on-terror” is nothing like that. There is no standing army, with a regular, military structure on the opposing side. That would be the quickest route to their defeat. Roving bands of terrorists (and no, I’m thinking of Mali here, not Benghazi) seizing areas to control is much more suitable for them.

    Plus, we’ve had one of the biggest human tragedies ever, in terms of lives lost, in a matter of days/weeks, without worldwide conflict or big, modern armies: Rwanda. Not so long ago. And the results of that conflict is still sweeping to and fro across the DRC. Without major conventional armies.

    But it is foolish to say never. Just very unlikely.

  • Klasie Kraalogies

    I’m very doubtful about big conventional wars. Even the so-called “war-on-terror” is nothing like that. There is no standing army, with a regular, military structure on the opposing side. That would be the quickest route to their defeat. Roving bands of terrorists (and no, I’m thinking of Mali here, not Benghazi) seizing areas to control is much more suitable for them.

    Plus, we’ve had one of the biggest human tragedies ever, in terms of lives lost, in a matter of days/weeks, without worldwide conflict or big, modern armies: Rwanda. Not so long ago. And the results of that conflict is still sweeping to and fro across the DRC. Without major conventional armies.

    But it is foolish to say never. Just very unlikely.

  • SAL

    War on a global scale is still certainly possible and maybe even likely over the long-term.

    However such a war would also be utterly unlike the last two world wars given advances in technology.

  • SAL

    War on a global scale is still certainly possible and maybe even likely over the long-term.

    However such a war would also be utterly unlike the last two world wars given advances in technology.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Do aging populations really have the get up and go to fight it out over resources? I mean, war is a young man’s pursuit and where are there tons of young men vs older cooler head? Well the developed world is full of older more tired folk. I am going with obvious, that the societies where restless young hotheads outnumber old coots will be more violent/warlike than the liberal democracies where old coots outnumber and out maneuver the few and disperse young hotheads. The younger societies don’t have the mega armaments to do a ton of damage. The older ones with the mega militaries don’t feel like it. As long as we have an upside down population pyramid, we’ll probably avoid it. As soon as those folks are dead and immigrants from the younger societies bring their culture and philosophy to the developed countries, they will probably blow the whole place up because they don’t believe in the ideals of the modern liberal democracies.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    Do aging populations really have the get up and go to fight it out over resources? I mean, war is a young man’s pursuit and where are there tons of young men vs older cooler head? Well the developed world is full of older more tired folk. I am going with obvious, that the societies where restless young hotheads outnumber old coots will be more violent/warlike than the liberal democracies where old coots outnumber and out maneuver the few and disperse young hotheads. The younger societies don’t have the mega armaments to do a ton of damage. The older ones with the mega militaries don’t feel like it. As long as we have an upside down population pyramid, we’ll probably avoid it. As soon as those folks are dead and immigrants from the younger societies bring their culture and philosophy to the developed countries, they will probably blow the whole place up because they don’t believe in the ideals of the modern liberal democracies.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    Well, the books of Daniel and Revelation certainly suggest some “less than optimal” circumstances in the future, no?

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    Well, the books of Daniel and Revelation certainly suggest some “less than optimal” circumstances in the future, no?

  • Pete

    What I can gather, from my son in the Air Force, is that there is currently a world war going on – in cyberspace. Most of it he can’t tell me about and most of it I probably don’t want to know

  • Pete

    What I can gather, from my son in the Air Force, is that there is currently a world war going on – in cyberspace. Most of it he can’t tell me about and most of it I probably don’t want to know

  • Carl Vehse

    “Do you think we will ever again have a world war; that is, war on a global scale?”

    Another phrasing of that question for Americans might be: “Do you think the U.S. will ever be involved in a declared war where our objective for victory includes the unconditional surrender of the enemy?”

  • Carl Vehse

    “Do you think we will ever again have a world war; that is, war on a global scale?”

    Another phrasing of that question for Americans might be: “Do you think the U.S. will ever be involved in a declared war where our objective for victory includes the unconditional surrender of the enemy?”

  • Grace

    Carl @2

    As Kerner stated @3, you beat us to it.

  • Grace

    Carl @2

    As Kerner stated @3, you beat us to it.

  • SKPeterson

    Or maybe the question should be, “Will the U.S. government ever again manipulate and contrive another nation into a war by provoking that nation to engaging in attacks on the U.S. in desperation?”

    Roosevelt engineered the war; the attack on Pearl Harbor was a direct (and for Roosevelt, desirable) consequence of an aggressive and hostile foreign policy aimed at both Germany and Japan. It was a designed pretext to get the U.S. into the war.

  • SKPeterson

    Or maybe the question should be, “Will the U.S. government ever again manipulate and contrive another nation into a war by provoking that nation to engaging in attacks on the U.S. in desperation?”

    Roosevelt engineered the war; the attack on Pearl Harbor was a direct (and for Roosevelt, desirable) consequence of an aggressive and hostile foreign policy aimed at both Germany and Japan. It was a designed pretext to get the U.S. into the war.

  • LAJ

    Oh and I suppose we had no reason to be hostile to Germany or Japan because they were totally innocent?!

  • LAJ

    Oh and I suppose we had no reason to be hostile to Germany or Japan because they were totally innocent?!

  • http://www.toddstadler.com tODD

    LAJ (@12), the logical extension of your argument is that it was okay to be hostile to Germany and Japan because they weren’t totally innocent.

    If so, then it is likewise okay to be hostile to, well, every nation. None of them are innocent. They all have issues.

    Let the world-bombing begin.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com tODD

    LAJ (@12), the logical extension of your argument is that it was okay to be hostile to Germany and Japan because they weren’t totally innocent.

    If so, then it is likewise okay to be hostile to, well, every nation. None of them are innocent. They all have issues.

    Let the world-bombing begin.


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