Clock ticking toward Warren shindig

15675961 200304098 ParisI do not know where I will be when the actual Saddleback shindig takes place tonight (I am on the road), but here’s a few of the latest details about what is supposed to unfold — via the Los Angeles Times (naturally). Click here for a Times blog item with lots of other gossip and stuff, in the hours before the forum.

This is one case where you really need to read the Associated Press. More on that in a second.

This event is not a debate, but will clearly touch on a few issues that come up in debates in the future, all with a faith and social justice thrust via the person doing the questioning — Rick “Purpose Driven Pastor” Warren. I think this is a very good summary of the format:

… (For) the 3,000 people in the audience and viewers watching live on cable television, this first onstage matchup will offer a preview of the three critically important presidential debates, the first next month at the University of Mississippi.

Though appearing separately, the candidates will field similar questions about their faith, abortion, same-sex marriage and humanitarian efforts abroad. It is a chance for both to hone their comments on sensitive topics and practice connecting with an audience not chosen by their tightly controlled campaigns.

But, believe it or not, the story then veers off into a lengthy discussion of the two candidates’ strengths and weaknesses in a traditional, political, debate forum — after telling the readers that the Saddleback gig will, essentially, be very different. What we need to know is something about how the two candidates will or will not be able to relate to Warren and the 3,000 people in the church’s plush theater chairs.

What do we get on that? Next to zippo.

Meanwhile, Rachel Zoll of the Associated Press pushes straight to the point.

For Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, their appearances at a forum Saturday night at Warren’s evangelical California megachurch bring risks along with rewards.

The event will play to one of Obama’s strengths, talking about his Christian faith, but it will also underscore the gulf between his views and those of the most conservative Christian voters. Many of McCain’s positions are more in line with the evangelical worldview, but he is uncomfortable — and some critics say unconvincing — while talking about his personal beliefs.

And then:

Warren is an anti-abortion Southern Baptist who is nonetheless part of a shift away from the religious right’s strict focus on abortion and marriage. The environment, poverty and education have also become pressing concerns, especially for younger evangelicals.

Warren is best known for building Saddleback Church into a 23,000-member megachurch in Lake Forest, Calif., and for writing the multimillion-selling book “The Purpose-Driven Life.” But he and his wife, Kay, are also leading advocates for HIV/AIDS victims worldwide. They have invested enormous resources in their PEACE Plan, now under way in Rwanda, which aims to combat corruption, illiteracy and other social problems through church partnerships with government and business.

Older-guard evangelical leaders who oppose broadening the agenda have been leaning on Warren. In a stream of statements in the days leading up to the forum, they implored him to press the candidates about their positions on abortion.

Larry Ross, who represents Warren, said the pastor has been consulting with other clergy and with experts in different fields to develop questions for the candidates about leadership, the Constitution, human rights and “sin and righteousness issues.”

Note that Ross has years of experience working for (wait for it) the Rev. Billy Graham.

There’s lots of solid info in this Zoll piece. This is the story you need to read before tonight.

However, if GetReligion readers have seen interesting news or commentary — left or right — on this event, please leave us the URLs in the comments pages.

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Terry Mattingly directs the Washington Journalism Center at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. He writes a weekly column for the Scripps Howard News Service.

  • pgcfriend

    You can watch it here I believe:

    http://saddlebackcivilforum.com/

    At this point I have not read a lot about this. I just want to cut to the chase and watch the forum.

  • Chris Bolinger

    Warren is an anti-abortion Southern Baptist who is nonetheless part of a shift away from the religious right’s strict focus on abortion and marriage. The environment, poverty and education have also become pressing concerns, especially for younger evangelicals.

    This goes into the old, familiar category of “if you repeat something often enough, it will become true.”

  • Brian L

    “I think Rick is in an unenviable position in that he stands to get attacked from the right and the left, based on what direction he takes,” said Mark DeMoss, an evangelical public relations specialist who had supported former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the GOP primary. “As an evangelical, I am much more interested in his list of questions than in either of their answers.”

    Me too. Tonight will do more than anything to demonstrate if Warren is the evangelical leader or maverick of this time. Perhaps there is a third way, but it should become more clear. Get ready for a GR round-up of whose opinion reporters sought out to explain the evening.

  • Pamela

    He asked more direct questions than I expected. I’m glad I watched it. Hopefully it will be on-demand like the other forum he did in April. I missed about 10 minutes of Obama because I was on my Mac using Safari. When I went to my Windows computer I was able to watch it with no interruptions at all.

    I’m sure cable TV will have increased ratings the next few days because of all the commentary.

  • http://www.tmatt.net tmatt

    Some comments are being spiked on this thread because they have nothing to do with the press coverage of this forum or of the issues involved. It you want to shout your opinion about the personalities involved, please go elsewhere.

  • Dave G.

    I think what hit me about watching it is, nothing hit me about watching it. You know what I mean? I mean the two contenders for the (still) most powerful office in the world agree to go to a Christian venue and be interviewed (that’s what the questions felt like to me) by a Christian leader? When has that happened? I thought I would have some ‘wow, history has turned a corner on religion in America this time’ vibe. But I didn’t. Maybe it’s because the venue didn’t look like much more than the usual modern American theater experience in other debates. Maybe because Warren looked so darn casual. Was it, “Mr. McCain, what is your position on…?” Nope. It was, “So, John, what do you think?” I can’t remember the last time I saw a debate with that tone. And I couldn’t tell if I’m glad it was set in a church or not. Maybe because, with the exception of the little blurbs about Saddleback on the bottom of CSPAN’s screen, there wasn’t anything that said ‘hey dummy, you’re watching our two guys trying to be the next president talk in a church!’ Perhaps it was that, when the religious aspects of Warren were discussed or scrolled at the bottom, it talked about the size of the church (I used to say that nowadays, Americans judge their pastor by the size of his gymnasium), or what the church is doing regarding AIDS in Africa, or global warming. No talk about its theology of God, Jesus, salvation, or any other religious mumbo jumbo. I dunno. And because of that, I can’t tell if it marks a major shift of America toward religion, or a major shift of religion toward America. Hope this made some sense. I’ll be interested to see how it all plays out in the coverage.