Living on the wedge

wedge 01Hearty congratulations to supporters of President-elect Barack Obama (including the mainstream media, heh!) and supporters of all winners in the many democratic contests people across our country weighed in on. And condolences to those who didn’t fare so well.

We will be looking at any and all stories that cover religious angles and please do send us the best and the worst. We’re already seeing that the media narrative about evangelicals was off. They went three to one for Sen. John McCain. And Catholics who attend mass a lot supported McCain. But Obama got majorities of most religious groups — and 70 percent of the non-religious — to win and reshape electoral politics. The God Gap is still there, Mark Silk reports, but it’s just more Democratically inclined, a trend that began two years ago.

Anyway, if 2004 is any indication, pundits and media types will craft narratives about religious voters that may or may not have relationships to facts. So we’ll be watching and let you know if and when they go astray.

One story that already has some religious angles involves the marriage ballot initiatives that passed or are passing in Florida, Arizona and California. Although Arizona declined to pass a similar measure a few years ago and Florida voters have to pass constitutional amendments with supermajorities, the results were somewhat expected. But the California intiative is passing, with 95 percent of precincts reporting as I write this, despite months of media reports saying it was doomed.

Exit polls tend to skew Democratic for a variety of reasons (selection bias, Democrats more likely to respond to exit poll requests, etc.) but in California, they showed that a slim majority of white people opposed the amendment while black people supported it 70-30 and Latinos supported it slightly.

The Wall Street Journal, in an early report, picks up some of the religious angles:

Approval of Proposition 8 would be a stunning upset in a $70-million campaign that just weeks ago looked to be running in favor of preserving gay marriage rights. . . .

The passage of Prop 8, as it is known, would be a major victory for religious conservatives seeking to ban gay marriage in other states, and a crippling setback for the gay rights movement nationwide. . . .

Prop 8 supporters were relying Republican voters in rural areas, but also urban African-American voters like Christopher Miracle of Oakland, a 19-year student at nearby California State University Hayward. Mr. Miracle voted for Barack Obama, but voted to support Prop 8. “Look at the bible.” he said. “It’s not a man and a man.”

It’s a good and straightforward story that hits the religion news and balances lots of quotes from supporters and opponents of Proposition 8.

The Los Angeles Times, in a brief blog item, also found a religion hook:

People who said they attended religious services weekly were overwhelmingly voting for the measure, while those who said that they occasionally or never went to religious services were voting no.

Meanwhile, a New York Times story told us that Obama opposes same-sex marriage politically because of his religious views. However, he actually opposed Proposition 8. Either way, many of his supporters also supported the traditional marriage push. Florida, which went for Obama, also enshrined traditional marriage in its constitution.

The media narrative has long been that Republicans have won elections by appealing to social conservatives who oppose “wedge issues” such as gay marriage and abortion. Now that Republicans have run two straight campaigns that barely mention social conservatism (and have lost bad) and ballot initiatives banning gay marriage have won in blue states, will that change the narrative?

One religion story about this proposition that has been undercovered outside of the Salt Lake City press is the anti-Mormon rhetoric employed by some anti-Proposition 8 forces. Take, for instance, this ad that anti-Prop 8 groups ran leading up to election day:
Though a wide variety of religious groups worked formally and informally in support of Proposition 8 the support of Mormons was highlighted by opponents. I don’t know if that’s because Mormons were deemed a politically and socially acceptable religious group to publicly target or what. One group started a Web site asking people to provide identifying information about Mormons who supported the initiative. And anti-Prop 8 forces produced that ad, which is reminiscent of anti-Catholic agitprop from a century ago.

Speaking of, the Catholic Conference of Bishops has already responded to the ad, calling it “a blatant display of religious bigotry and intolerance.” Salt Lake city station KSL ran a piece on the “particularly vicious attack ad” here. Have any groups defended the ad? I’m unsure.

But, a la Gorski’s piece from a few days ago, it seems that this type of rhetoric is a major story. While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ support for Proposition 8 was well covered — as was that of the Catholic Church — the anti-Mormon backlash has not received enough coverage. I would love to see a story with some analysis of the campaign video and its effect and how Mormons and non-Mormons feel about it.

Now, as always, please place nakedly political comments in yesterday’s open thread or take them to a site that encourages political discussions. For this post, please comment on the mainstream media coverage of religious news as it relates to marriage ballot initiatives.

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  • steve

    The extremely lopsided coverage is sad. Political correctness has taken the place of actual correctness. I bothers me that the traditional religious voice of the country is silenced and the voice of alternative lifestyles is amplified and carried across the country. We need to speak out and let the media and everyone else know that we have a voice too. We have rights, we have opinions and beliefs, and we are entitled to express them.

  • Scott

    It’s sad that Mormon’s are targeted here because it’s viewed as socially acceptable to slander them. If the people at the door in this commercial had said “we’re Jews,” or “we’re Muslim” or even “we’re gay,” news organizations around the country would be all over this and the commercials would be condemmed for what they are – inflammotory bigotry.

  • http://divertimenta.blogspot.com Jen

    It’s certainly been entertaining to watch the mainstream media during this campaign, they’ve had difficulty shelving their personal views to present actual news coverage.

    As an LDS person who does not live in CA, but who would support Proposition 8, and has voted in favor of similar laws in my own state, I am anxiously awaiting news on this outcome. I appreciate your article.

    Regarding the anti-Mormon ad campaign on proposition 8, I have to say I laughed out loud when I saw it. I think (hope?) that most people have other experience with the LDS church to know that these commercials in no way reflect the LDS people.

    It’s sad that our society (and lately it seems to be certain factions of California Society in particular) feels that if something is wrong, but they want to do it anyway, we should just change the laws to make it OK. Then we can all feel good about ourselves. We are seeing the same thing with SF wanting to stop prosecuting prostitution. Not legalize it specifically, but make it not punishable so the city doesn’t have to worry about it any more. Never mind the effects that will have on the “working” people whose lives are endangered by people who exploit them through their poverty or addictions. If we ignore it, will it somehow make life safer for people who are being exploited sexually? Ignoring a problem, or deeming something wrong as “right” doesn’t truly make it right. Saying “it will happen anyway” or “it always happens/has happened so we can’t help it” doesn’t make it right either, and it doesn’t help the people being hurt by it to ignore or justify the problems.

    I agree with this opinion piece on Gay Marriage from a Liberal Democrat back in September in the LA Times:
    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-blankenhorn19-2008sep19,0,2093869.story

  • http://www.life-and-faith.org Ernesto Tinajero

    As for the God Gap, I think evangelicals have to start rethinking the way they do politics. Many times evangelicals think politics end with voting for the right party. With the election of Obama, evangelicals have to hold him accountable to what he said at Saddleback, that is the working to reduce abortions. If evangelics are to integrate faith with life, then they have to work more like community organizers than simply giving their votes to whoever says they stand on the right issues. The success last light came not from electing the right people but with the propositions on the ballet.

  • http://perpetuaofcarthage.blogspot.com/ Perpetua

    Last night that commercial ran on CNN in the San Francisco Bay Area of California at 7:30 pm.

    The polls closed at 8 pm so I was surprised they would spend the money.

    It seemed more like “hate speech” than a legitimate effort to influence opinion or get out the vote.

  • http://rub-a-dub.blogspot.com MattK

    WOW! Was that shown on TV? I’m speechless.

  • DaveL

    In addition to CNN, the commercial also ran on Comedy Central. It is pure hatred towards a single religious group.

    I agree with the comment made earlier – if it was members of the Jewish, Catholic, or Muslim faith, it would’ve never aired.

    Having seen it, I fear for the safety of the Mormon missionaries serving in California.

    That advertisement is pure evil, and should’ve never gone on the air.

  • Jen

    And now we see a response to the outcome with a call from the gay community for hate crimes against Christians who supported Prop 8:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6081

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  • http://www.muchmorethanwords.com/2008/11/unfortunately-it-almost-goes-without.html gfe

    What’s surprising to me is how little coverage Prop 8 received. The most substantial coverage I’ve seen from outside California is quite a few articles in the Salt Lake Tribune. I frequent the political sites frequently and recall seeing basically nothing, and I don’t remember it being mentioned at all on CNN. So much time and energy was devoted to the presidential race, the many other things (including all but a few congressional races) got short shrift.

    The anti-LDS video might have worked as a “Saturday Night Live” skit, but as a campaign ad it’s abhorrent. As others have said, an ad that portrayed two Jews in the same way would have been instantly condemned (and probably not aired).

    I haven’t seen much media response to the ad other than a blog item in the L.A. Times defending the ad and a piece sympethetic to the ad’s critics on KPIX-TV. I’d hope to see more condementation of this sort of thing, but I’m not sure how many are aware of the ad other than those who have taken a specific interest in this issue.

  • OneHumanFamily

    I was a missionary and I did not like the depiction of missionaries in the video either, but it does not even compare to what was done to gay people in California.

    No one seemed to care that lies were begin spread about the effects of proposition 8. No one seem to care that kids were being used as weapons for the yes on 8 side. No one seemed to care the that the Mormon church and other churches were amending the constitution to strip away rights for the very first time in our country’s history.

    Let’s not kid ourselves. The Mormon church had a huge impact on this campaign. You cannot expect not to have some serious backlash. I have already come across one website. I am sure more are to follow.

    http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com/

  • Jerry

    other churches were amending the constitution to strip away rights for the very first time in our country’s history.

    I’m not saying the two situations are comparable in the least, but technically the WCTU and other religious organizations had a large part to play in the abolition fiasco. And various religious figures were behind taking children away from “savages” (Native Americans) in order to Christianize them. The later was not about amending the constitution, of course, but it was denying people the right to raise their own children.

    And I have to comment on this post:

    And now we see a response to the outcome with a call from the gay community for hate crimes against Christians who supported Prop 8:

    A very small number of hotheads on a few blogs have been reported to say ugly things. I’m totally not surprised but this is hardly the gay community.

    A year or two ago, I read in one place that it was time to start arming to resist martial law because George Bush was going to suspend the constitution and cancel the 2008 election. And now we have a few wingnuts on the right (at the freerepublic.com) saying similar things since Obama was elected. And before that we had a few that bombed abortion clinics and murdered doctors.

    I don’t take the comments or actions by a few on the left, right, gay or straight community to be reflective of the majority of any group. Any who violate the law should be dealt with by the law. The rest should be judged by their actions not by the actions or words of the few.

  • Peter Holden

    The reason that the ad was specifically about the LDS wasn’t because it is somehow socially acceptable to “slander” Mormons, but but rather because it is a documented fact that the vast majority of funding for Prop 8 came from Mormons, both by direct contribution from the church and individual Mormons donating. In the face of the directive from the LDS hierarchy for Mormons to do all they could to support the passage, it is not unreasonable to see the individual contributions in that light.

    If a major Jewish or Muslim denomination had specifically targeted Prop 8 in the same way, that wouldn’t have been inappropriate.

    Like it or not, the Mormon church did target gay marriage in California. Pointing that out isn’t off limits.

    If you are going to balanced on reporting things here, you should also be pointing out the deeply inaccurate and offensive things in the Yes on Prop 8 campaign.

  • Dale

    I think you mean “prohibition” fiasco, unless somebody has given you a personality transplant and you now favor the restoration of slavery. Second, there is not a constitutional right to sell or consume alcoholic beverages, and in a number of jurisdictions (some counties and towns) the sale of alcoholic beverages is still restricted or banned.

    Portraying Proposition 8 as “taking away” someone’s rights is a transparent attempt to ignore the legislative process in this country, and assert a constitutional right where none exists. The Supreme Court of California, against the express wishes of the electorate and in disregard of the text of the California constitution and legal precedent, created ex nihilo a “right” of same-sex marriage, thereby violating the most fundamental, explicit right contained in the federal or state constitution: the ability of the citizenry to make its own laws. No one appointed the United States Supreme Court or the California Supreme Court philosopher kings; the fact that they have law degrees does not give them special insight into a justice that transcends the federal or state constitution. To grant them the power to amend the federal or state constitution at will, which is what the California Supreme Court did by instituting same-sex marriage, guts the process of deliberation and compromise that lies at the heart of our system of government. If the California judiciary had exercised proper restraint, Proposition 8 would never have been an issue.

    The MSM coverage of the issue has been filled with emotionally manipulative words and images, while the underlying political and legal problems of expansive judicial power go unexamined. Not only did the Supreme Court of California overreach its authority, it undermined the legitimacy of its future decisions.

  • Dale

    My previous post at #14 reponded to Jerry’s at #12; for some reason my browser didn’t pick up the block quote in my response.

  • Dale

    Peter Holden wrote:

    Like it or not, the Mormon church did target gay marriage in California. Pointing that out isn’t off limits.

    That’s disingenuous. Portraying Mormons as conducting a home invasion and ripping up a lesbian couple’s marriage certificate is not the same as “pointing out” that Mormons financially supported Proposition 8. The first is a crime, and something that no Mormon missionary has ever done; the second is the perfectly legal exercise of political participation.

  • Jerry

    I think you mean “prohibition” fiasco

    Sigh. You’re right. I was thinking about the meaning of Obama’s victory while I was composing the post and the two trains of thought had a party in my brain.

  • http://www.getreligion.org Mollie

    I had to delete a comment from a long-time commenter because it referred to one of the mentioned religious groups as a “contemptible cult.” Such rhetoric isn’t fitting for this blog. Please try to be more civil so we can all work together here.

  • Dave2

    I suppose my main point (which has to do with consistency and avoiding double standards) was captured by the Nation of Islam example: imagine a similar ad criticizing the Nation of Islam for (hypothetically) taking on mixed-race marriage, and either allow that the anti-Mormon ad is not off-limits or else explain why the norms of public discussion ought to treat the two differently. I could, of course, make the same point with the Church of Satan or Aum Shinrikyo or any other unpopular new religious movement, but since the Nation of Islam actually does take a stand on mixed-race marriage, it’s a very natural example.

    Regarding “contemptible cult”, to be sure, I would never use such provocative language directly (not unless we were discussing Scientology!). I merely intended to put the position held by me and many others in stark terms—i.e., to communicate that some of us see gay marriage as an issue of fundamental human rights, and that some of us think no respect is owed the LDS movement. But I’ll happily avoid even oblique uses of the term ‘cult’ assuming that we can at least acknowledge this perspective on Mormonism, a perspective which is widely-held enough that it ought to figure into any assessment of the norms of public discussion.

  • http://N/A Ray

    Symantics.You play with words and ideas, shaping them to your liking. Religious groups, and in particular Mormons, chose to limit the rights of a group of fellow citizens when sponsoring prop 8. You throw stones and call the vicims the aggressor. How can gays not want to rise up and stop the group that’s attacking them?

    I a gay atheist and I guarantee that I’m as genuinely a good person as any religious person. I live my life with the recognitions that my actions affect others. I have never held people’s religious beliefs against them.

    If you’re not stepping on my toes I’m not going to ask you to move out of my way. But, the mormons are now stepping on toes and this will have consequences. Illegal actions and violence shouldn’t be a part of this; this will be war fought through our civil institutions. You have woken us up to the prejudice that still exists in America and we will act!

    Your so-called “liberal bias” theory is shaky at best, as the news outlets are giving little coverage to the mormon backlash.

  • Bern

    It’s a stupid commercial.

  • Dale

    imagine a similar ad criticizing the Nation of Islam for (hypothetically) taking on mixed-race marriage, and either allow that the anti-Mormon ad is not off-limits or else explain why the norms of public discussion ought to treat the two differently

    The norms shouldn’t be applied differently. If the Nation of Islam is against mixed-race marriage, it’s fair to point that out. It is not fair to depict a couple of Black Muslims breaking into the house of a mixed-race couple, stealing their wedding rings and tearing up their wedding certificate. One is a fair description of their position; the other is to depict Black Muslims as criminals. Is the difference that hard to comprehend?

  • Dave2

    Dale, I’d definitely have a problem with an ad that actually suggested that Mormons or Black Muslims were criminal home invaders. But do you really think that’s what this ad is doing?

  • Tracy Hall Jr

    It has almost become an article of faith that the “Mormon Church” bankrolled Proposition 8 as an institution. Even the Wall Street Journal made the error (though they later issued a correction.)

    Typical is the UK’s Guardian, which wrote,

    “The main funder of the campaign for Prop 8 was the Mormon Church of Latterday Saints, based in Utah, which donated around $10m to the campaign.” Fact checking be damned!

    Never mind that “No on 8″ raised more total, more out-of-state, and a (slightly) larger percentage (about 30%) out-of-state than “Yes on 8.” Mormon involvement in this campaign must be portrayed as a sinister plot for world domination from a smoke-filled room in Salt Lake City. The “Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” revised and updated!

    On the other hand, the $1.25 million given to “No on 8″ by the California Teacher’s Association, as an institution, from the compulsory dues of its members, received no scrutiny in the press.

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