Best Ever. No Question.

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  1. 1
    EricW says:

    Watch the 4-disc/8-part DVD (plus 1 Special Features disc) of THE BEATLES ANTHOLOGY to learn what geniuses Lennon and McCartney were.

    IIRC, they nowhere mention John’s assassination or killer. Which is fine with me. His name should never be mentioned in human society. He should be forgotten forever.

  2. 2
    Matthew says:

    Disagree, they were great, but the best? Don’t think so. Perhaps the best in their musical genius, but not as a total package in my view.

  3. 3
    Watchman says:

    Back in their heyday, The Beatles hated God. And, they were very public about it both in their speech and in their song. At the risk of sounding legalistic, for believers of Christ who call The Beatles good, I echo the words of the prophet of old:

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.” (Isaiah 5:20)

  4. 4
    Ross says:

    Yes. Perfect example of common grace.

  5. 5
    Gloria says:

    #2,
    Yes, you are sounding extremely legalistic.

  6. 6

    Just one Dylan short of being perfect. Hee, hee.

  7. 7

    Legalism, there ought to be a law against it.

  8. 8
    art says:

    i expected a photo of the doors.

  9. 9
    Tim Gombis says:

    It’s incredible what they put out in less than a decade and their range, too. It’s also amazing how so many significant bands today owe much of what passages for “new” and “interesting” to them. They’re just about all my son wants on his iPod–along with Zeppelin, Neil Young, etc.

  10. 10
    smcknight says:

    Art, I don’t know a song by The Doors.

  11. 11
    Jim Martin says:

    Absolutely right! They were amazing.

  12. 12
    EricW says:

    @Francis Beckwith #4.:

    Bob’s the man!!!!

  13. 13
    art says:

    what??!?!!

    touch me, hello i love you, light my fire, l.a. woman, peace frog, break on through to the other side…those are classics!!

  14. 14
    art says:

    that said, if i were objective, you’re original post is correct

  15. 15
    Susy Flory says:

    Best ever, except for U2.

  16. 16
    Anna Ro. says:

    Their hair just kept getting longer. : ) But I agree…best band! : )

  17. 17
    Baggas says:

    Best ever, closely followed by U2 :)

  18. 18
    Aaron says:

    Im with Susy – U2 is the best ever hands down. They have been packing Concerts out world wide for decades!

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    Richard says:

    i don’t get it.

  20. 20
    Watchman says:

    #5 Gloria – “Extremely”? Is their a scale for which we measure the various levels of legalism? Maybe if I just reword it a bit, I can knock it down to “Moderately”.

  21. 21
    discokvn says:

    um, the rolling stones… pre-1985 stones… not what they have become — the beatles knew when to quit, stones have yet to learn the lesson…

    also, up there with the stones, zep, beatles, u2 — the police, pink floyd, the who, and the kinks… oh, oh, oh how can we forget the clash?

    okay, i just wanted to mention the stones and i went off… sorry…

  22. 22
    discokvn says:

    p.s. marty’s movie about the stones, unwatchable! again they didn’t know when to quit…

  23. 23
    dkp says:

    Are you kidding me? U2 is still alive and playing together, and selling records. One half of the Beatles are (in Python-ese language)”expired”, and their advent to the iTunes catalog is national news. Scot, on this (and most things) you are 100% correct. The Beatles. Best. Ever.

  24. 24
    HomelessDrew says:

    Apparently to be the best band ever you had to have been popular before dirt was invented. Oh and by the way, mp3s wont work on your 8-track players. Zing!

  25. 25
    Bobby Bouche says:

    Metallica is the best ever! :P

  26. 26
    kevin s. says:

    Apparently, everyone is forgetting about a little band called Vertical Horizon.

  27. 27

    I would say “most influential”. However, I rank Led Zeppelin at the top.

  28. 28
    andy says:

    their albums are shelved just below my bible. but there are also alot of great new bands out there worth listening to:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okxAi06PTAU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z5gy94x450&feature=fvst

    by the way, i ran into a former student of yours several weeks ago scot. he said you were one of the best teachers he’s ever had.

  29. 29
    John Loppnow says:

    I’m a huge U2 fan. So, I’d lean in that direction.

    Loving Mumford & Sons these days. Of course, they are young in their time together. I think they bring so much joy into the world. Check them out. Youtube is a good place to start.

  30. 30
    Clay Knick says:

    Yes and amen! Amen & Amen!

  31. 31
    Bob Brague says:

    All of you have to be kidding.

  32. 32
    Rick says:

    Who are they?

    Is that Paul McCartney and Wings? Where is Linda in the picture?

  33. 33
    dkp says:

    There are three sources of truth in this world: The Holy Bible, The Godfather:Parts I and II (forget there was a III), and the lyrics of the Beatles.

  34. 34
    Ed Gentry says:

    #3 if you want to quote the prophets I go with Amos 9:7

    Here, in a delicious bit of subversion, Amos relativitises Israel’s election and uniqueness. In Amos’ time, as in ours, the people of God had lost their concern for justice – preferring economic gain over concern for the poor. Is it to much to think that when the people of God are blind and deaf that God might use those outside to speak for him?

    There is no question that the Beatles publicity denounced God but does that mean that they could also not produce good fruit? Matthew 21:28-32.

  35. 35
    Robert A says:

    Absolutely not the best ever. Maybe best of their era. I can accept that.

    Not best ever.

    It’s like an Elvis fan trying to say he is the best ever, or a Glenn Miller fan saying he is the best ever. Think in terms of eras not totality.

  36. 36
    Michael+ says:

    Where did the Beatles ever publicly denounce God? The “more popular than Jesus” line was a typical throwaway comment from Lennon about the craziness of Beatlemania. Besides the probable truth of the comment at the time (I wasn’t born yet), Lennon always maintained that it he wasn’t exactly applauding what he observed. The only other place that I can think of is the post-Beatles Lennon song, “Imagine”. If you don’t get the pining for an absence of religion-induced ideology and its capacity to divide humanity and to divide humanity from God, what would you make of St. Paul’s admonition in Titus 3:9?

  37. 37
    John L says:

    My first record, when I was 7 ==> Meet the Beatles. After about 50 spins, I kept bugging my mom to buy me an electric guitar, which she did before my 8th birthday. Grew up playing music, thanks to the four blokes.

    Mr. Watchtower (#3), I never sensed a “hatred of God” from the Beatles. As for religion, I think most artists treat it with suspicion and derision, except those making their living in religious markets.

    As for “best ever” – I vote Bach. Do you know why Bach had so many kids?

  38. 38
    Dana Ames says:

    Bach married singers :)

    My “classics” are Bach, Beethoven and Beatles.

    But I think in retrospect U2 will rise to the top.

    Dana

  39. 39
    discokvn says:

    #37 — if best is related to how many people were moved to pick up a guitar, then i believe that johnny ramone has inspired more to pick up the guitar than anyone else… in fact, i’ve read an article in guitar player stating this…

    p.s. george had the best hair… see above picture

  40. 40
    Watchman says:

    #36 – I’ll let you make a judgment call. But, for all that I have seen; they had derision towards religion, God, Jesus, you name it. In fact, they had derision towards anything but themselves. They were a typical self-absorbed boy band as far as I’m concerned. The Beatles deceitfully came to America as decent looking young men, but then led a generation of America’s youth to become hippies, drug addicts, rebels, sexual degenerates and God-haters.

    “We probably seem to be anti-religious. . . none of us believes in God.” (Paul McCartney – Hit Parader, Jan 1970, p.15)

    “Christianity will go, it will vanish and shrink. I needn’t argue about that. I’m right and will be proved right. . . .We’re more popular than Jesus now.” (John Lennon – San Francisco Chronicle, April 13, 1966, p.26)

    John Lennon, in his book, A Spaniard in the Works, portrays Jesus Christ as…

    “Jesus El Pifico, a garlic-eating, stinking little yellow, greasy fascist bastard catholic Spaniard.” (A Spaniard in the Works, p.14).

  41. 41
    Kevin Corbin says:

    Now if you want real classics try Johnny Horton, Merle Haggard and of course Johnny Cash … now we’re talking real music.

  42. 42
    Bob Brague says:

    I’m partial to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir….

  43. 43
    Colleen says:

    A religion that prevents you from enjoying the Beatles is a religion not worth having.

    That said, I’m an Orthodox Whovian myself (in both respects).

  44. 44
    linda says:

    i’ll take the rolling stones or the doors any day over the beatles! i once heard that most people who love the beatles aren’t that crazy about the stones and vice versa. don’t know if that’s true generally but it is for me.

  45. 45
    Watchman says:

    #43 – As a Christian, I prefer music that honors and glorifies God. The Beatles and their music just doesn’t quite do that. But, I also believe in God’s grace and I’m sure God isn’t keeping a list of who is listening to what kind of music. But, it saddens me to see the type of music professing Christians seem to enjoy. Of course, I myself am guilty of this too. Peace.

  46. 46
    Napman says:

    Scot you are sooooooo right!

    Watchman if you evaluate their music and lyrics rather than their religious views (by the way Dale Allison wrote a nice book on George Harrison’s spiritually rich music), one may get a different impression of the Beatles. Their optimism, belief in the centrality of love, and increasingly sophisticated pop structures are simply marvelous. Judge their lives if you must, but what I admire about the Beatles is that they made the best pop/rock of all time. Great music is not necessarily derived from, nor is it dependent on, personal piety. Check out today’s CCM.

  47. 47
    Watchman says:

    Napman – From what I had always been told, much of the music by The Beatles was influenced by famed satanist/occultist, Aleister Crowley. A simple evaluation of their music and lyrics reflects this by their illustrations of drug induced utopias and anti-Christian rhetoric.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley#Popular_culture

    Again, I digress. I’m not being legalistic, but just engaging in mere discussion here. I’m not judging anyone for listening to The Beatles. Like I said earlier, I’ve been known to enjoy listening to a number of questionable musicians myself. Peace.

  48. 48
    Jon G says:

    What? No love for New Kids on the Block!? ;o)

  49. 49
    Colleen says:

    Watchman is demonstrating the “Stop having fun guys” approach to Christianity. You know, the one that makes people not want to become Christians because it sounds like a total drag.

  50. 50
    Lamb says:

    Claim: “Much of the music by The Beatles was influenced by famed satanist/occultist, Aleister Crowley.”

    Citation: “The Beatles included him as one of the many figures on the cover sleeve of their 1967 album Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.”

    Watchman, I think that one could argue that placing a person’s image on an album cover may not necessarily indicate that “much of the music” was influenced by that person.

    Claim: “drug induced utopias and anti-Christian rhetoric.”

    Citation please? George wrote some Eastern influenced songs, and though that may not necessarily be Christian, it’s not necessarily anti-Christian either. The closest thing I can think to what you’re describing is the song “Imagine” which John released during his solo career. Not a Beatles song.

  51. 51
    Watchman says:

    Good one, Colleen.

  52. 52
    Watchman says:

    Just call me the Nofunanator.

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