A Christian grandmother nails the transgender issue

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Lately we’ve all been made keenly aware of the plight faced by so many transgender people seeking nothing more than to be accepted for who they are. And much of the cultural prejudice aimed at such folks is, of course, grounded in (tragically flawed and institutionally promoted) conservative Christian theology. And so today we have armies of pastors, theologians, and seminary professors wringing their hands and searching through Bibles and volumes of ecclesiastical commentary in search of enlightenment on the LGBT issue. When, as evidenced by this beautiful little letter written to me by a grandmother, the only thing necessary for a Christian to achieve complete resolution of this issue is to love.

Hello John,

I never heard of you, but came across your site when looking for a specific prayer site for transgender people. [She found this.] Thank you so much for your writing!

My 8 yr. old grandchild, who I am raising, is transgender. I had deeply embedded religious beliefs, and when faced with this situation I became totally confused.

But I chose not to make it about me. I began to question what I had been taught from my religious peers, and began to educate myself on transgender people. Instead of trying to change my grandchild (who had a girl’s body but whose brain told him he was a boy), I decided to combine my faith in God with education to lead me to the truth.

The truth wasn’t hard to find anyway. It was there every time I looked into my grandson’s eyes. I live in a very small southern town, so I had to take him out of school and home-school him because he became very depressed. It took me awhile to find a therapist in this area who counseled transgender children.

I could have chosen to go the other way, and forced Aaron to wear girl clothes, and tell him that God didn’t approve of him if he chose to be a boy instead of a girl. Yes, I could have ruined him emotionally and spiritually! I thank God for leading me to the truth. I chose not to continue being a delusional “religious” Christian.

I am thankful that I chose a different path to take concerning Aaron’s journey, or he may have been another suicide statistic. This has truly humbled me and made me a better human being.

Hallelujah, Grandma!

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  • https://www.scribd.com/doc/270172860/The-State-of-the-Transgender-Union-2011-2015 State of the Trans Union 2011

    We are not the demons many fellow believers claim we are. Gender is innocent. I would like to share my 6,000 word Essay (see pic).

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/270172860/The-State-of-the-Transgender-Union-2011-2015

  • Chris Schene

    Did not the scriptures say we were made male and female?

  • http://johnshore.com/ John Shore
  • Darren

    Hi John,
    I was wondering how I could contact this wonderful grandmother. I am also a trans male and her story brought me to tears, good tears, but still tears. I like to always give my support whenever I read stories of parents and caregivers who are supporting children in this manner. I was a tortured soul and had a mother who allowed me to wear boys clothes and have boys hair cuts. She was a saint, and I never got to tell her so.

  • Diane

    Nothing in “transgender” conflicts with this religious belief. A human fetus with brain “chemistry” different from development of sex organs, still results in a human being supposedly created by god. You can google the difference between male and female brain chemistry and development of the fetus’ sexual organs, e.g., whether the penis descends “outside” the body.

  • Lookingup73

    And yet God somehow makes about 1% of folks as neither (intersex) and some as transgender. Maybe not everything is literally true in those scriptures? (Anyone who has read those scriptures knows that deep down).

  • Chris Schene

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  • Lookingup73

    That has nothing to do with my comment. It also has nothing to do with Christianity. It also begs the question why you seek to tell other people what their lived experiences have to be, and then seek to tell them they don’t deserve to be treated well. What motivates such sociopathic behavior? Christianity is part of it I know, but I think there are some Christians who don’t make that their focus.

  • Andy

    Yes. Some people were made both male and female.

    See what I did there?

  • Lookingup73

    Well done! !

  • Lookingup73

    I was raised as a Christian and remained a Christian until age 23. No where was there anything I was taught about God and Christianity that would cause me to have a problem with a transgender person. It is amazing that some Christians think it does. The fact that this Grandma had to revise her religious world view to accommodate a loving perspective speaks VOLUMES about the negativity of contemporary Christianity!

  • IAmaVegetarian

    Christians can think what they want about transgender, yet they should be kind to those people who identify as trans. They aren’t going through what they are going through, so they don’t understand.

  • Lookingup73

    “They aren’t going through what they are going through, so they don’t understand.”

    Truer words were never spoken. I never understand how people can be so judgmental on things they don’t even understand. (Well, that is the problem isn’t it – they don’t try to understand or empathize with anyone who is not like themselves).

  • IAmaVegetarian

    The truth about transgendered children is that 70-80% of them spontaneously lose these feelings by the time they reach puberty. Those who go on to get surgery and hormone treatments commit suicide at a rate 20 times the national average. A Swedish study followed over 300 trans people post-surgery and 10 years later their mental states were no better than before surgery.
    Walt Heyer, a former Male to Female trans person, realized that surgery wasn’t the right thing for him. He received surgery, and after some years as a woman, he realized that his transgender feelings happened as a result of trauma he had as a child. He has been speaking out against surgery being pushed on people.
    The theory of being born with the “wrong” brain chemistry is only a theory, and it hasn’t been proven by science.

  • Seamonkey

    Your statements are false and are a feeble attempt to cause more distress to trans people and their loved ones Let’s deconstruct the arguments being trotted out one by one:

    1. A Swedish study shows post-operative people are more much more likely to commit suicide.

    This statement grossly misrepresents the findings of the study and suggests that the study argues against transition-related care. Quite the opposite. The study outright states that medical transition is supported by the other research, and the study is not intended as an argument against the availability of such treatment:

    “For the purpose of evaluating whether sex reassignment is an effective treatment for gender dysphoria, it is reasonable to compare reported gender dysphoria pre and post treatment. Such studies have been conducted either prospectively or retrospectively, and suggest that sex reassignment of transsexual persons improves quality of life and gender dysphoria.”

    Indeed, another Swedish study in 2009 found that 95 percent of individuals who transitioned report positive life outcomes as a result.

    Additionally, the higher mortality rates are in comparison with the general populace (and not other transgender people who have not received treatment) and only apply to people who transitioned before 1989:

    In accordance, the overall mortality rate was only significantly increased for the group operated on before 1989. However, the latter might also be explained by improved health care for transsexual persons during 1990s, along with altered societal attitudes towards persons with different gender expressions.

    It should come as no shock that as society accepts transgender people, they suffer fewer side effects of minority stress. This conclusion is supported by other recent studies (Murad 2010 and Ainsworth 2011) that found that individuals who receive treatment not only are better-off than those who didn’t but are not significantly different in daily functioning than the general population:

    “Male-to-female and FM individuals had the same psychological functioning level as measured by the Symptom Checklist inventory (SCL-90), which was also similar to the psychological functioning level of the normal population and better than that of untreated individuals with GID….”

    The mental health quality of life of trans women without surgical intervention was significantly lower compared to the general population, while those transwomen who received FFS, GRS, or both had mental health quality of life scores not significantly different from the general female population.

    2) Suicide rates among post surgery transsexuals is higher than those who don’t have surgery.

    First this proposition notes that general population rates for suicidality are around 1.6% in the United States. Then they note that suicidality rates for post-op transsexual people are about 4.1%. They then claim that since this is “hundreds of percent higher” that surgery does not work.

    But let’s talk about the reality. It is that the pre-op suicidality rate for transsexuals is 41%!!! Pre-op rates of suicidality for transsexuals are 1000% higher than post-op rates as found in the UCLA Williams Institute study Suicide Attempts among Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming Adults.

    3) Regret is common.

    Surgical regret is actually very uncommon. Virtually every modern study puts it below 4 percent, and most estimate it to be between 1 and 2 percent (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfafflin 2003, Kuiper & Cohen-Kettenis 1998, Pfafflin & Junge 1998, Smith 2005, Dhejne 2014). In some other recent longitudinal studies, none of the subjects expressed regret over medically transitioning (Krege et al. 2001, De Cuypere et al. 2006).

    These findings make sense given the consistent findings that access to medical care improves quality of life along many axes, including sexual functioning, self-esteem, body image, socioeconomic adjustment, family life, relationships, psychological status and general life satisfaction. This is supported by the numerous studies (Murad 2010, De Cuypere 2006, Kuiper 1988, Gorton 2011, Clements-Nolle 2006) that also consistently show that access to GCS reduces suicidality by a factor of three to six (between 67 percent and 84 percent).

    4. But what about the people who had regrets?

    Any surgery comes with a risk of regret. It just happens that the risk of regret for GCS is actually much lower than for many other surgeries. Indeed, the regret rate for GCS compares favorably with gastric banding.

    When asked about regrets, only 2 percent of respondents in a survey of transgender people in the UK had major regrets regarding the physical changes they had made, compared with 65 percent of non-transgender people in the UK who have had plastic surgery.

    Risk factors for negative outcomes often mentioned in studies are lack of support from the patient’s family, poor social support, late-life transitions, severe psychopathology, unfavorable physical appearance, and poor surgical result (Cohen-Kettenis 2003, Lawrence 2003, Landen 1998, Smith 2005). Lawrence (2003) concluded that results of surgery may be more important for global outcome than preoperative factors. As techniques have been perfected, the risk of long-term complications has fallen to less than 1 percent in male-to-female patients (Perovic 2000, Jarolím 2009, Wu 2009). This follows the pattern of regret rates falling as well.

    People who regret physically transitioning are outliers, not the norm.
    Given the level of harm involved when medical care is denied, and given how unusual regret is, denying medical care to everyone based on the outliers makes no logical or ethical sense. In other words, you would do more harm to more people by denying everyone access than by keeping the system we have in place or even expanding access. Every major medical organization supports access to transition-related care and deems it medically necessary for a reason: The actual peer-reviewed evidence supports it.

    The standards set in place by the World Professional Organization of Transgender Health Professionals, Standards of Care (SOC) v7, are designed to ensure that regret rates are kept low. Many of the anecdotal cases of regret would have been avoided if the SOC had been followed.

    The push shouldn’t be for less access to care but for providers of care who are better-educated. You personally have harmed many transitioning because their families come here looking for answers and you have repeated what you heard, not learned by reading the studies. If you feel my findings are unfounded I have included the names of every study I drew information from so you or others can read the papers and the conclusions for yourself. Hopefully, you were only trying to help when you (unknowingly) spread these untruths. Please, in the future, check your sources before hurting others. Remember your words will spread across the world and be read by millions for untold years. Don’t hurt others, especially those who already in such despair from living a lie due only to their fear of family and friends not accepting and loving them. We MUST do everything to help trans both kids and adults live their lives as the gender they were meant to be. And if that means dragging the Pharisees along with us into a more loving society as Christ taught then I am prepared to do exactly that!

  • IAmaVegetarian

    And?! There is NO PROOF that anyone is “born in the wrong body”. It’s all propaganda run by the liberal media. The only part of the brain that is fully developed at birth is the brain stem. That’s the part of the brain that controls involuntary actions like breathing and blinking.
    The trans community and their supporters need to remember neuroplasticity. People’s brains CAN CHANGE over time due to patterns of behavior. Brains of bilingual people are different than those who only know one language. When Einstein died, his brain was removed and was found to have a knob on the part that controls the left hand. Einstein was a violin player. It goes on. Just because someone’s brain is a certain way doesn’t mean they were born with the brain that way.

  • TaschTasch

    Will you extend your argument to people on the autism spectrum or to people who develop schizophrenia? People’s brains take time to mature and for you to suggest that the full developmental growth of the brain is all due to a “plastic” brain responding to external stimuli, an assertion which flies in the face of modern neurosciences, is absurd. Let me give you an anecdote to counter the Einstein example – despite my parents being very interested in classical music and dragging me off to operas and the symphony since I was a small child, I have been unable to learn how to play an instrument because I am tone death. No amount of brain plasticity can make me an accomplished musician.

    Also, how do you account for people who are born intersex? If people’s external genitalia do not always match their genetic gender, why do you think people’s internal brain structure and function would always match their genetic gender?

    Lastly, why do you feel it is necessary for you personally to debunk transgender “propaganda”? If real people experience gender confusion to the extent that they want to die, who are you to tell them their suffering is a social construct engendered by the “liberal media”?

    PS: I felt it was personally necessary for me to address your comment because I think your opinions on the matter is deliberately ill-informed and hurtful to extremely vulnerable people.

    Also, the term “liberal media” is an obvious straw man that should not be used seriously in any argument.

  • IAmaVegetarian

    We do have some genes that do affect our brain functioning. I have a neighbor with identical twin sons who are severely autistic. Obviously it came from their genes or womb development. I am on the autism spectrum myself.

    Intersex isn’t the same as transgendered. Those people have chromosome disorders or hormone disorders. Some have deformed genitalia. They can identify with whichever gender they feel comfortable with.

  • jaykaylol

    Modern studies just aren’t advanced enough to know what causes transgender, but theres no reason to just assume because of that, there is absolutely NO way that it’s possible. Generally if a large sum of people are all experiencing the same symptoms of something, it’s considered a real phenomenon. It’s the same as invisible diseases, mental and physical, — people know something is wrong, but modern medicine just isn’t advanced enough to have a name for it.

    There are millions of people who feel this, permanently or even temporarily, and they’re literally killing themselves under the weight of scrutiny because they aren’t getting the emotional support human beings need to survive. It’s so embedded into their bodies that they aren’t who they are on the outside, that they are more willing to end their life than to change. That’s the ULTIMATE sacrifice a person could make in order to be happy. Does that really not speak volumes to you, and how absolutely dire something needs to be changed in the way people handle transgenders?
    This isn’t just a few teenagers going through a phase, this is millions of people all experiencing the same thing and it’s been happening for hundreds of years. It’s real — these girls and boys aren’t pretending.

  • IAmaVegetarian

    40% of transgender people attempt suicide. Many of them have had surgery and hormone treatments beforehand. Going through the transition isn’t always saving lives.
    They do deserve respect as human beings. They do deserve to be called the pronouns they want if that’s the way they want to live. I don’t want them to be discriminated.
    Yet most of them do have co-morbid conditions such as depression, anxiety, drug use, alcoholism, homelessness, and such. It is sad. I can’t say “that’s OK”.

  • Darren

    You totally miss the POINT as to why we suffer from those issues. I still suffer from extreme depression, I still suffer in many ways, but let me tell you, I have been able to live a much better life and been able to contribute to mine and others which I wouldn’t have been able to do otherwise. You seem to think that just because we suffer from other issues, we shouldn’t be allowed to be our identifiable gender. Like if we commit suicide after all the work we’ve had, that we should realize it wasn’t the transgender issues which made us happy enough to live a happy go lucky life. Secondly, if you also have to realize how HARD our lives our when we are constantly having to defend our rights as people who think we’re mental cases. Discrimination, loneliness, poverty and so on….you have no idea what it’s like to suffer in this way. If we don’t move forward in society, we will end up with a lot more dead people from their own hand, rather than opening up acceptance and understanding to this phenomenon of diversity, probably just part of the spectrum of human diversity, and should be protected and treated with dignity.

  • Cady555

    The high suicide rates for transgendered people are a direct result of the pain caused by people like you.

  • IAmaVegetarian

    No, it’s because nearly all of them have co-morbid disorders such as depression, anxiety, and others.
    BTW, I have never met a transgendered person as far as I know. I also haven’t harassed any online.

  • pam1947

    Actually all your comments here are harassing to transgender people. And what you do not understand is all the other co-morbid disorders are the result of people not only not accepting us but going out of their way to make life more difficult for us. When you cannot get a proper job to support yourself, or your friends and family continually tell you you are wrong it wears you down. BTW I am very successful in my life and quite happy. But not before refusing to live my life the way others demanded but what was right for me.

  • https://pjevansgen.wordpress.com/ P J Evans

    And when they transition tot he gender they’re most comfortable with, and they’re not being told that they’re crazy or wrong or going to hell (by people just like you), that depression improves dramatically and the suicide rate drops.

    You have met trans people, but they certainly wouldn’t tell someone who thinks they shouldn’t exist. (I’ve met at least three.)

  • Kaylee Scruggs

    Most of those comorbid disorders aren’t there until we have to deal with how society treats us. They are there until after we have struggled with being trans. I know of several people who reached the point where they either transitioned or they would have killed themselves. All of them are now highly functioning individuals in various fields.

    In my case, my depression and anxiety is likely part and parcel of my C-PTSD. That came from an abusive step-brother, an abusive step-mother, and the other three of my parents mostly not being present in my life. I lucked out that most of my issues have nothing to do with being trans. I was on an anti-depressant and an anti-anxiety drug before taking hormones. Within a week of taking hormones I felt significantly better.

  • RV Spivey

    I do know transgendered people. You’re wrong on every count. Your contention that there’s nothing going on but the “liberal agenda” is the exact thing that pushes them to the brink of suicide. BTW, why is it so important to you to “disprove” gender dysphoria? That’s the real question. If you don’t know any, what’s it to you?

  • IAmaVegetarian

    I went to school with two boys who had a sister who was certain she was a boy. From the time she was a preschooler until she was about the 3rd grade she called herself a boy and wanted to be a boy. Eventually she stopped. I think the only reason why she had those feelings was because she was the only girl in her family and looked up to her older brothers and tagged along with them. I am glad that back then the family just waited it out, rather than changing her clothes and hairstyle, changing her name, and then fighting with the school to get her to use the boy’s restroom. That’s why stories like this bother me. I think the right thing to do is to wait it out and see if the child gets over it. If there is no talking the child out of it when the are older, then let them change over.

  • Cady555

    So what? Maybe her parents were smart enough to tell the difference between “tomboy” and transgender. Most people are not as stupid as you.

  • Cady555

    You are evil. Too bad there is no cure for you.

  • Darren

    Exactly! As if we have nothing better to do with our lives, then to make them so full of misery just for shits and giggles!!

  • Lady Alexandra

    So what happens when the surgeons correct the baby’s genitalia to a boy, he’s raised as a boy…. and at sixteen he grows breasts instead of a beard?

    (Her parents threw her out for this; she clearly was disobeying God by needing a bra.)

    She has since fully transitioned into a female life,but it would have been easier if her family hadn’t been fundamentalist.

  • Ellen K.

    Right, true, there’s no proof that anyone was “born in the wrong body”. But may transgender persons don’t look at it that way. They don’t see it as male soul in a female body (or vice versa). They see it as a body with a male mind and female genitalia (or vice versa). They see their own maleness and femaleness as both being biological, both as coming from the body, the mind being in the brain, which is part of the body.

  • Darren

    PROOF??? I AM PROOF!!!!!!! Me and the thousands of people like me!! Do you realize that we do everything we can to NOT be transgender? Do you realize that we don’t WANT this anymore than anyone else??? If any of us were able to switch it off, we WOULD!!!!! So since we can’t and it’s not as simple as brain plasticity because you are discussing two different areas of the brain and different functions. You’re argument would also mean that if I wanted to, I could make you into a transgender person!!! I can’t, it’s impossible just as it’s impossible to make me feel comfortable being female. I had two choices, become male or DIE!!!!!! Clearly you would prefer the later for people like me. Well it aint going to happen, you need to fully educate yourself before spewing hate and misinformation and talk to people who actually go though this, such as myself!

  • https://pjevansgen.wordpress.com/ P J Evans

    You seem to be confusing sex (which is physical) and gender (which is in the brain). Trans men are men</em. and trans women are women.

  • LadySunami

    So the suicide rate for trans individuals goes from 41% pre op to 4.1% post op and your response is basically “so what?!” Are you serious? Have you no empathy?

    And just because the brain can change in certain ways based on patterns of behavior, doesn’t mean it can change in others. I, for example, am dyslexic, and no amount of effort on my part is going to rearrange my brain somehow to make my dyslexia up and vanish.

  • Lawrence Walston

    For all the understanding of the various intricacies of the human brain, that neuroscientists and neurologists have gleaned over the years, there are mysteries about the brain that are still being puzzled over. I do recall a passing mention on the news about somebody having discovered a portion of the brain that links in plays a considerable part in gender identity. Unfortunately, for us laypersons, not in the field of Neuroscience, we can never understand what these people go through. One thing is certain, for those with dealing with this ordeal, the depression that accompanies them on a daily basis can be so severe that they may take to self medicating with alcohol or other drugs, to take the edge off their suffering. Others may take to cutting themselves or worse. Many of these people become so isolated that when thrust into a public situation, they cannot function the same for fear that they would stand out and get noticed. As an introverted personality, I can understand just how paralyzing it can be. By the way can you explain introverted personalities vs. extroverted personalities? Is this a real thing? Can you prove it? How about seasonal affective disorder, supposedly caused by sunlight deficiency? Is that a real thing? Can you prove it? How about bipolar disorder? Is that a real thing? Can you prove it? Or maybe paranoid schizophrenia? Is that a real thing? Can you prove it? Clinical depression? Is that a real thing? Can you prove it?

    Don’t bother trying to disprove things that you yourself don’t understand? Compassion doesn’t require understanding. All it requires is a willingness to listen and keeping an open mind.

  • Bek Walsh

    Are you a Christian? Please tell me how you can believe in something that you can’t see or feel? Where is the proof God exists?
    By the way, i do believe in God and i do believe that God loves everyone!

  • Darren

    NO!!!! You are full of shit! If that was the case I would be living my life as a woman, but as I entered puberty, and I had hoped and prayed it would ” go away” but it DOESN’T and thank God I had a mother who was sane and got me the help I needed. I have been living as a MALE since the age of 19, no thanks to someone like you!

  • IAmaVegetarian

    “You won’t hear it from those championing transgender equality, but controlled and follow-up studies reveal fundamental problems with this movement. When children who reported transgender feelings were tracked without medical or surgical treatment at both Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic, 70%-80% of them spontaneously lost those feelings. Some 25% did have persisting feelings; what differentiates those individuals remains to be discerned.”

  • Darren

    Well here’s the thing I would first like to see the accreditation’s of those studies, because I know that some studies are done where there are many important areas left out and the results are not accurate. Aside from that, let’s say for arguments sake that the studies were accurate, you still have people like me, and I cannot possibly be the only one in the entire world who upon reaching age 18, had not had one day in his life where he felt like being a girl was ok. Trust me I tried. There are a lot of factors and variables here and at this point no children are getting surgeries, what they are getting is opportunities to save their lives. They are given a chance to ensure that what they’re doing is the best thing for them. If someone told me at age 5 or 8 or 11 that there was a way that I could be a boy, no it wouldn’t be perfect and it wouldn’t be without problems, but if the medical community had told me at age 5 or at any point during my childhood before puberty hit, I would have JUMPED at the chance. I did think I’d grow out of it, but clearly I didn’t and had I been given the chance to be a boy as a child I would have participated in so much more, I would have enjoyed so much more of my childhood. It wouldn’t have been perfect, I desperately wanted a penis and no amount of hormone blockers or testosterone would give me one, but just to be able to walk down a street, being seen as the boy I was in my mind, would have given me so much more confidence and freedom.

  • Kaylee Scruggs

    There was one study done with about 20 and it did not follow them to adulthood. I’ve seen the study and it was so badly done that you can’t draw anything from it.

  • Darren

    That isn’t a huge surprise! I find that anti trans people are always looking to prove their point that we are nothing more than mental cases that the left wing/liberal agenda is catering to in this time of political correctness. It’s impossible to reason with these people!

  • http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly Anakin McFly

    It’s quite likely this paper: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003

    It followed 25 girls, 15 of whom met the DSM-III criteria for Gender Identity Disorder, defined as follows: “Girls with this disorder regularly have male peer groups, an avid interest in sports and rough-and-tumble play, and a lack of interest in playing with dolls or playing “house”. The other 10 were ‘sub-threshold’ cases.

    14.5 years later, only 3 of those girls – 20% if out of 15, 12% if out of 25 – identified as transgender. I’m actually surprised any of them did, given that pretty much any tomboy would have fit that diagnostic criteria.

  • Darren

    Yes exactly, there are a lot of girls who would fit that criteria, but who would not at all fit the actual, genuine criteria for having gender identity disorder. I actually enjoyed playing house, the difference was, my role was the male role, brother, son or most likely father. I liked playing dolls, but the doll I played with was a Ken doll. These people miss the point entirely, and don’t delve deep enough into what the criteria really is for having gender identity disorder.

  • JMS

    Most just had it beat into repression by people like you. But so long as youre making someone else’s life miserable youre happy, right,

  • Helen Barton

    Please enough, just go away and read your copy of your latest Dr. Paul McHugh “scientific” journal. Then you can pat yourself on the back for being able to agree with “experts”.

  • Cady555

    Yep. What is wrong with people? Just because a child claims they have a broken leg doesn’t mean there is evidence they have a broken leg. I never had a broken leg. And my second cousin’s preacher knows someone who thought they had a broken leg. They never saw no new fangled doctor and they’re just fine.

    So there is no excuse for taking a child to an expert for some make believe broken leg. My leg isn’t broken so their leg ain’t broken neither.

    /s

  • Korou

    I recommend that we listen to the opinions of the medical and psychological communities.

  • Cady555

    Yes. Exactly. Religious texts written 2000 to 3000 years ago are not a source of guidance on this issue. The fact that religious people have never met a transgendered person and refuse to listen to the reality faced by those people has no bearing on the truth of the experience of people who are not them.

  • http://example.com/ SwiperTheFox

    It probably would be better if you could see the bubble around them. Then, it would be pretty stark:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aA4s4KsLndI/hqdefault.jpg

  • Lissa Ann

    Actually you are wrong.

  • http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly Anakin McFly

    1. The 80% stat was based on a long term study of 25 girls, 15 of whom were diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder under the DSM-III and 10 of whom were considered “sub-threshold” cases. The DSM-III defined GID in girls was as follows: “Girls with this disorder regularly have male peer groups, an avid interest in sports and rough-and-tumble play, and a lack of interest in playing with dolls or playing “house”.

    Today, we know such girls as tomboys, not trans boys. Of those 25 girls, only 3 went on to be transgender. This is where that statistic comes from, along with another paper on gender atypical behaviour (note: not transgender identity) in boys, most of whom grew up to be gay and not trans.

    2. “Those who go on to get surgery and hormone treatments commit suicide at a rate 20 times the national average.”

    That Swedish study involved trans people who transitioned prior to 1989, a time when society was far more hostile to them. The study itself notes that surgery was effective in relieving gender dysphoria, and that the suicide rate might have been even higher without it. They found this corroborated by a follow up study of trans people who transitioned from 1989 to 2003 and had much better outcomes. From the paper’s author, Dr. Cecilia Dhejne:
    “The difference we observed between the 1989 to 2003 cohort and the control group is that the trans cohort group accessed more mental health care, which is appropriate given the level of ongoing discrimination the group faces. What the data tells us is that things are getting measurably better and the issues we found affecting the 1973 to 1988 cohort group likely reflects a time when trans health and psychological care was less effective and social stigma was far worse.”

    The paper concludes by suggesting additional care for trans people in addition to medical transition.

    Either way, the suicide rate was measurd against the general population, not trans people who did not transition. More recent studies show drastic drops in suicidal attempts in those who transition – from 41% overall to 1.2%.

    3. Walt Heyer was not a transgender woman. He was a man with Dissociative Identity Disorder (multiple personalities), and one of his personalities was a woman. This got him wrongly diagnosed as transgender, which he himself admits was a misdiagnosis. He is not at all representative of actual trans people.

    4. Regarding science, here’s a good collection of studies involving the neurobiological basis of transsexualism: http://aebrain.blogspot.sg/p/transsexual-and-intersex-gender-identity.html

  • Mary Catelynn Cunningham

    Thank you for your thorough answer

  • http://www.scrappersworkshop.com Jennifer White

    For those of you (IAmaVegetarian in particular)who believe that there is no cause for folks being transgender, the science is pretty clear these days. I have a friend who is chief of staff at a major Children’s Hospital, and she does an excellent powerpoint that explains the current state of the science. And it’s based on a great number of valid, high quality studies, so the evidence is mounting daily. Here’s just a start, and there’s a link in the article to more:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/how-much-evidence-does-it_b_4616722.html

  • Korou

    To the grandmother, and anyone else in a similar situation:
    Can I share http://raisingmyrainbow.com/

    If you haven’t come across it already, I’m sure you’ll find it to be a wonderful and supportive resource.