They Don’t Call it “Lunacy” for Nothing

Here’s a fascinating conjunction of events.

In this corner, Master Panderer, Shaper of Civilization and Grand Visionary, Newt Gingrich, literally promising the moon to buy a few votes in Florida from some down on their luck Cape Canaveral workers:

Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich is promising to colonize the moon.

Speaking in Florida, hit hard by the loss of a large number of space-affiliated jobs, Mr. Gingrich said Wednesday that if elected, “By the end of my second term, we will have the first permanent base on the moon and it will be American.”

Obviously a sound use of our resources as we launch our next war and spend our way out of debt. Who can doubt the sober conservative genius of this man?

Meanwhile, the redoubtable Dave Armstrong has noticed that, in addition to Bob Sungenis’ complete transformation into an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist kook whose website is dominated by headlines like

Wesley Clark on US/Israel
Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? (About Evangelical support for Israel)
Chris Matthews: Israel Trying to Incite War on Iran
James Morris: Watch for Another USS Liberty Incident from Israel
Jim Stone shows Israel Behind Fukashima Disaster
Dr. Alan Sabrosky Ties Israel to
Israel Pays US Media to Slant the News
Politics, Religion, Israel and the Seduction of the Catholic Voter
Jewish Author Exposes Israel’s Lies
Netanyahoo says Israel Doesn’t Need U.S. Help
Should We Expect a Mass Conversion of Jews?
Israel Creating Super PAC to Defeat Ron Paul

…as well as 9/11 Truther nuttiness (the Jews destroyed building 7!), creationist rubbish and geocentrist folly, Sungenis is now promoting a video by some gnostic nut who claims that the US Government hired Stanley Kubrick (a Jew of course) to fake the Moon landings. It’s a perfect storm of crazy, because it ties together not only geocentrism (moon landings, which presume a physical model based on a rotating earth, mess up Bob’s theories about geocentrism), but also brings in Bob’s beloved Jewish conspiracy theories. True, the maker of the DVD illuminates us all with treasures of knowledge like this:

Gnostics preached that there was an invasion that occurred about 3,600 BC and, about 1,600 years before the Nag Hammadi texts were buried, they wrote that this invasion was like a virus and, in fact, they were hard pressed to describe it. The beings that were invading were called Archons. These Archons had the ability to duplicate reality, to fool us. They were jealous of us because we have an essence of some kind, a soul, that they don’t possess, and the Nag Hammadi texts describe the Archons. One looks like a reptile and the other looks like an unformed baby or a foetus. It is partially living and partially non-living and has grey skin and dark, unmoving eyes. The Archons are duplicating reality so that when we buy into it, when we come to believe that the duplicated, false state reality is the real reality – then they become the victors. . . .

I believe many of the stories of Jesus are actually Gnostic myths about a possible rebellion against the Archons who came down very severely on the rebel.. . .

I really hate to say this but we have all been fooled. The whole idea that some kind of messiah is going to come to save us is an Archon trick to make you think you don’t have to do anything about your present situation, no accountability. Maybe some supernatural force will come but I think you have to look at how this oppression occurred and why it was written out of history. When you begin to look back, you realize the early Christian, from the time of Jesus to the time of Constantine in 310 AD, they were preaching that they did not worship Jehovah; they worshiped the one true God. It could be argued that the early Christians were actually Gnostic followers of Jesus instead of what we, today, call Christians. The entire New Testament was completely rewritten by Constantine and all of the information on the Archons was removed and the ideas of Jehovah being a cruel god were lessened. This is a fact. The Nag Hammadi texts are older than the New Testament by 400 years. The New Testament that we have today wasn’t concocted until about 350 AD. When you go back to the Nag Hammadi, it doesn’t have the sin factor; they say what they really think. . . .

Rense [interviewer]: Many people look into the media – not the mainstream media – for information. So who are these Archons now? These are Talmudic Zionists, to a large degree. They are part of it, perhaps they are the central core of it. We need to start looking at the name values are and where their DNA says they came from, the Czarian Empire. They adopted Judaism and used it like a stick to beat people and hide behind at the same time which is a great tragedy for true, honest and Jews of good heart and there are millions of them. [my bolded emphasis] . . .

But what’s a little crazy anti-Christian historical illiteracy when you get to say that the Jews are lizard people in disguise faking moon landings to discredit geocentrism?

Me: I think Newt and Bob Sungenis need to be America’s first pioneers to the lunar colony. Or perhaps the term should be “lunatic asylum”.

By the way, you will note that Sungenis is a big favorite with E. Michael “Jews are ‘enemies of the entire human race’” Jones, author of The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, who is the guy Marc Brammer put in his “think tank” to think great thoughts about the newer, better, purer Church he and Michael Voris are laboring to create.

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  • JustMe

    I often wonder why I don’t just become a Jew. From a practical standpoint it’s hard to argue against. The internet tells me they control the banks, the media, Hollywood and the whole 9/11 thing. Any group with that much clout is worth joining. I wonder how long I have to be a member in good standing before I get invited to the world controlling committee meetings?

  • Andrew

    I’m sorry, what’s the problem with space exploration?

    • Mark Shea

      Nothing. But Moon Colonies are a colossal waste of time, money and energy.

      • JustMe

        Indeed I read something somewhere (how’s that for a cite) that the only way to make moon landings economical is if they had piles of flawless diamonds on the surface. Why not just open up the skies to private companies who want to go to the moon?

      • Thomas R

        I don’t know if I’d go that far, but I do think he kind of lost it with that. Maybe someday Moon colonies will be viable, but for the foreseeable future the expense is far greater than the potential benefit. So Romney was right, even I have to admit, on this that corporations are not going to bother.

        Gingrich kind of seemed to be saying, at the debate, “it probably won’t happen, but if we say it will it will get kids into science.” Which is interesting, but does fit the idea he’s sort-of a huckster. Ideally there should be a more plausible goal to get kids into science. A “hotel in space” would even be closer to that.

  • Oregon Catholic

    Sounds like the intersection of Scientology and the Matrix.

  • victor

    Yay! It’s been ages since I’ve heard a good Lizardmen conspiracy theory.

    • Mark Shea

      I live to delight you, Victor. 🙂

  • SouthCoast

    Didn’t know that Rense was still around interviewing anyone. What a world…

  • Tominellay

    …did he really spell Netanyahoo like that?

  • Gingrich wants to colonize the moon? Because that’s exactly what an America drowning in national debt and unemployment needs: more projects that produce nothing beneficial for the common man at exorbitant sums of money.

    And they say Ron Paul is crazy . . .

    • Ye Olde Statistician

      A bit of research on the tangible technological and economic benefits that came out of the earlier space program might not be amiss.

  • Will

    The empire never ended.

  • Richard C.

    Newt Gingrich proposed some technological feat regarding the moon, and Sungenis’ nutty friends have some Gnostic theory about the moon.

    What a flimsy excuse to put Gingrich and Sungenis together in a blog post. It’s a smear tactic and it’s disgraceful.

    Surely it would be easy to demonstrate that Mark Shea has much more in common with Robert Sungenis!

    • Mark Shea

      A smear tactic? Really? Do you really think the average reader is dumb enough to think “Sungenis and Gingrich’s names are in close physical proximity on my computer screen. They must be in agreement!” And here I just thought that the two of them saying ridiculous moon-related things was serendipity landing in my email inbox.

  • If we end up going to the moon we may awaken some terrible space creature or maybe some evil transformers.

    • ds

      And Gingrich is the only true conservative with the spine to stand up to extraterrestrial menaces that threaten the American way of life.

      • Mark Shea

        He believes we must bomb the universe into a fundamental and profound acceptance of democratic capitalism. The sun has already acquired the technology for hydrogen fusion and represents a grave threat to American interests in the solar system. The moon is our first line of defense against solar flares that threaten our strategic communications capabilities.

  • David Davies

    Newt has the wrong goal here I think. The only practical reason for a Moon colony is to produce material for the construction of a permanent habitat [Space Colony] at the L5 point. A solar power station at this point could be really useful. And as oil stocks are inevitably depleted, increasingly necessary and therefore affordable. And there are a number of productive things that can be done in the high vacuum low gravity environment which would be available in such a habitat.
    See Gerard K O’Neil and the L5 Society for more information.

    Whether any politician, including Newt, understands the economic potential of colonizing space is in great doubt.

    • Ye Olde Statistician

      Gingrich’s science adviser for many years was Dr. Jerry Pournelle. Jerry contends that Gingrich is one of the few politicians he has met who actually does understand technological and scientific issues, and was always a big supporter of science when he was in Congress.

    • Hi,

      The National Space Society is the successor to the L5 society and has gobs of information on space exploration and colonization.

      Remember we don’t spend money on ‘space’, we hire engineers, scientists, computer programmers, administrative assistants, accountants, technicians, heck even a few lawyers, to design, study, and hopefully build space related technology. Most studies have shown every $1 gives about $7 back to the economy.

  • Kirt Higdon

    It’s a shame what happened to Jones and Fidelity/Culture Wars. These were once very good magazines and Jones was author of some insightful books and articles. Unfortunately, Jew-hatred warps the mind and rots the soul. Jones has not been immune to its effects.

  • There’s more. Apparently, he hopes that the Moon will become the 51st state. I wish they gave a direct quote on that; it would be fun.

    So what would we call it? The state of Lunacy?

    • Rosemarie


      If the Moon became a state, what would a map of the United States look like? They already have to transplant Hawaii and (a greatly shrunken) Alaska into the area where Mexico really is, in order to get all 50 states to fit on most US maps. Where would they possibly stick the Moon?

  • Hezekiah Garrett

    Luna. His proposed state was named “Luna “.

  • Al

    Here’s hoping Voris can keep the cart on the road…… I like the guy….no whammies…no sungenesis..come on no whammies voris…..

    • Mark Shea

      You shall, I fear, be disappointed. He’s already in rebellion against his bishop, after all.

  • Mark, if I leave a comment that disagrees with you, will you put it up and leave it there, or ignore it and not put it up? I ask because many people tell me you do the latter.

    R. Sungenis

    • Mark Shea

      My comboxes are filled with disagreements. They are not, however, filled with anti-semitic screeds. Leave one of of those and I will delete it. I was not aware that James Phillips was “many people”.

  • Bill

    God bless michael voris!

  • Mark!,

    I’m jealous. Bob actually gives you the high honor of appearing personally on your website, whereas he would never defile himself by setting foot in mine, and always sends his “Bob is always right, and can never ever be wrong, even about the kookiest stuff” surrogates / legates : Phillips, DeLano et al. 🙂

    He just stated (through his legates) that he respects you and would never savage you or Keating or Akin; he reserves that for me alone, and is now calling me a “kook” and numerous other epithets. Now it’ll be fun to see what he says about you after this post. 🙂 Of course, i duly noted the irony with great relish in my revised recent post documenting Bob’s gut-bustingly funny insults against me.

    I can’t wait to watch The Shining again. So much meaning that I missed the first three times . . .

    Thanks for favorably mentioning my website in an upcoming article, by the way. They asked me for a photo so I heard about it. God bless!

  • Hezekiah Garrett


    I’ll tell you where the Salamander can stick the moon!!!