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  • Chris

    This begs the question: Would it be morally acceptable for the Church to sell a hospital to a secular third-party who would use the facilities to perform abortions and sterilizations? Would that be the equivalent of, say, a parish selling off a portion of its parking lot to someone who plans to build an abortion clinic on it?

    • If you sell a gun to someone you know intends to commit a murder with it, you’re complicit even though you got paid. So I would say it wouldn’t be acceptable.

      I’ve suspected for a while that the goal is to get us to resist so as to slap the Church with unpayable fines and confiscate our facilities.

  • Kml

    Thank you for laying it out like this, Cardinal George. This breaks my heart.

  • Bob

    The church should take these catholic hospitals and turn them into monasteries. Otherwise, secular authorities will seize them for the unpaid fines or eminent domain and take them over.

  • Hezekiah Garrett

    We don’t have the need for that many, or such large, monasteries.

    If we can’t serve the poor in our hospitals, because this country no longer desires our charity, then let us burn all our hard work to the ground.

    Let’s take our ball and stand our ground!

  • Amy P.

    I much prefer we continue doing our good work, refuse to pay any fines or for any contraception/abortion/etc., and just engage in massive civil disobedience.

    I, for one, would not be pleased to see our charitable institutions closed nor would I accept it as the “only option” in the face of such tyranny.

    • Hezekiah Garrett

      Healthcare is my field. This isn’t academic for me.

      And I wouldn’t be pleased at all. (I thought that went without saying, but oh well.)

      And I don’t think arson is “the only option”. But we ought to prepare ourselves, lest it come to such. Maybe we could all watch that Little House on the Prarie episode where they all dynamite their own houses and businesses, to keep them from going to the railroad.

      • Hezekiah Garrett

        And I don’t mean people going on their own to ‘set things right’. Aint no vigilantism in the Church.

        I’m envisioning more of a Savonarola moment, where the Lay and Religious executives and major donors on a dais, Episcopal blessings, processions, as we burn our lives to the ground rather than violate our consciences. Invite all those we serve to come and join us, praying in whatever manner they are moved. See what happens.

        • S. Murphy

          I’d rather we had a second collection every Sunday from here on, to pay the fines and get the Church off Caesar’s teat, but keep the hospitals. Maybe Uncle Sam really is the only one that has that kind of money; I don’t know.
          But if we can’t keep the institutions, I prefer your proposal to just rolling over and playing dead.

      • Hezekiah Garrett

        Delete this if it is too off-topic please, Mark…

        But does anybody on earth think that this would happen if our healthcare services were more religious, as opposed to lay (not as opposed to secular), in the face the average Pt sees? I dont think Joe Schmoe discerns much difference between St Whosit and Corporate General or County General.

        I just think increased religious in these areas is a thing to desire for yet another reason, insulation against this kind of persecution.

  • Ted Seeber

    A simple way out- that only goes halfway to burning the hospital to the ground.

    Add, as a condition of employment, an oath of fidelity to the Catechism of the Catholic Church. EVERY doctor, nurse, or janitor in a Catholic hospital should be Catholic.

    Then apply for exception as a religious institution. I wonder what would happen then.

    • Well, the institution could still only serve Catholics as well. At least we’ll be healthier than the general population.

      • Ted Seeber

        A quick baptism in the emergency room fixes that one nicely.