I don’t know why, but this cracked me up

Smith is one of the few people at FOX who strikes me as honest. He also refused to drink the Kool-Aid for torture when that was the Official Goodthink for FOX’s Ministry of Truth on behalf of Bush/Cheney (NSFW):

One of measures of the sickness of the Thing That Used to Be Conservatism is that it is, for many “conservatives”, far graver that he used the F word than that their ideological leaders transformed the US into a regime that legalized torture. And Mitt Romney, like all the rest of the GOP field except for Ron Paul, pledges to once again make the torture a fundamental value of American “conservatism”.

  • Noah D

    Shep Smith is the guy looking around at everyone else near him with the growing fear that either they’re going insane, or he is – and he’s pretty sure he hasn’t changed.

    I sympathize with him, enormously.

  • S. Murphy

    Good for him! Exactly what the f-word was made for. God bless him!

  • CJ

    His outburst on the toruture video seems kind of manufactured, but he’s still right. Speaking of torture, this is disturbing. http://www.loweringthebar.net/2012/05/would-the-last-civil-right.html

    HT Ad Orientem

  • http://ohnimus.wordpress.com Christian Ohnimus

    two of the best responses I think I have ever seen come from a reporter. I tip my hat to Shep Smith.

  • Sean O

    Yes, all sorts of horrible things going on in the world, human degradation thru wars, torture and other means but bad language, a breach of etiquette, that we will not stand for. The F bomb on TV, that is unacceptable.

  • Lisa

    ***transformed the US into regime that legalized torture***
    I’m not sure what Mark means by this. Torture has been illegal in the US since 1948. It has also been used widely by the CIA in many countries around the world, most notably in SE Asia and Central America. I disagree that anything has been “transformed” in prractice, nor has anything become “leagaized” in principal. To think that conservatism was somehow holy during the Ike, Nixon or Reagan years would be a serious mistake. IMHO.

    • Mark Shea

      Of course conservatism is not holy. However, it did not labor to make torture policy–till Bush/Cheney, who exempted us from Geneva and proceeded to make torture the official policy of the US. Obama has suspended, not revoked, Bush/Cheney policy. And Romney will restore it. Eventually our Ruling Classes will use it against us too.

  • Lisa

    In fact, during the late 60′s and early 70′s the CIA set up “Interrogation” centers to perform widespread torture on the VC, resulting in something like 60,000 tortured and 20,000 killed. This happened of course under Johnson and Nixon. Later, The Thing That Used To Be Conservatism only managed to torture a handful of men. I’d say things are improving.

    • Mark Shea

      I know. But these things were not the stated policy of the government and not marketed to the people of the US as a Good Thing. They were done on the QT. Still very evil. But against the law, not enshrined in law.

    • Chris M

      citations, please?

  • Lisa

    You are right, however, Shepard Smith is funny. He is correct on torture, as are you, as is B16 who declared it always and everywhere sinful. But I doubt that Romney has the same heart as Cheney. I dont think he will promote torture.

    By the, speaking of Cheney’s heart, I heard on the radio that he got his new heart from Trayvon Martin!

  • Lisa

    http://www.serendipity.li/cia/operation_phoenix.htm

    I don’t know how accurate this is, maybe you could google “Phoenix CIA program” and find a better source.

  • rachel

    Join the club Shepard Smith :). I feel the same way.

  • thomas tucker

    I, on the other hand, remember fondly the days in which news was reported without editorial comment. If you are a newscaster, give the news. If you are an editorialist, editorialize. But there really needs to be a separation, and there isn’t one these days.

  • JC

    “Obama has suspended torture” and opted for murder instead, via drones. Much more of a humanitarian. How do you know Obama has “suspended” torture? Because he says so? Obama says many things that are not, in fact, true statements.

    • Mark Shea

      I’m aware of the unilateral murder power. As to the suspension of torture, all I know is what I read in the papers. I think it inadvisable to borrow trouble assuming a lie when there is no evidence of one. Not charitable.

      • JC

        And I am also going by what I read in the papers or rather don’t read. Because the mainstream news doesn’t cover anything that makes Obama look bad, does that mean it hasn’t or isn’t happening? To think its borrowing trouble to focus on “lies of omission” is naive. For example, I rarely read in the newspapers or see on broadcast news any accounts of the Fast and Furious scandal, i.e., the Obama administration allowing guns to walk across the border, guns that have been tied to the murders of U.S. border patrol agents. Nor do I see anything in the mainstream news about all the lobbyists now employed by the Obama administration…something he promised wouldn’t happen. Just a couple of examples of things that are happening in the Obama administration that you don’t read in the newspapers or broadcast news.
        “Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much.” Luke 16:10 NIV

      • JC

        Speaking of borrowing trouble, how do you know that Romney will re-instate the Bush/Cheney policy that allowed torture? Has he announced that as an intended policy?
        Perhaps, instead, he will follow the Obama policy of shooting down whomever is in the sights of the current drone operator, without any benefit of law…just blatant murder, shoot them down because that way you don’t have to deal with terrorists on any civilized level, such as interment at Guatanamo Bay?

        • Mark Shea

          He’ll do both. He’s stated his support for “enhanced interrogation” (torture) and will undoubtedly retain the gains Obama has made in transforming the executive into an unaccountable despot.

  • http://www.likelierthings.com Jon W

    That second video reminded me of Mitchell and Webb’s “Kill the Poor” sketch.

  • Rosemarie

    +J.M.J+

    I like Shepard Smith, too; though he’s been looking rather gaunt lately. I hope he’s okay.

  • Franciscan

    I loved the quiet “ooops” Shep let out after dropping the f-bomb.

  • Steve

    Compared to MSNBC Fox News is totally objective.

    • Mark Shea

      Nah. They’re both ideological whores for their respective parties.

  • Lisa

    Shep has nasty temper. Didn’t he run down an old lady in Florida because she took his parking spot?

    Also, the debate over the morality of drones is not vovered in the US. The debate is taking place, however. Just glance at the UK papers. Finally, I see the army is devloping land drones now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2bExqhhWRI

    Even James T Kirk could not have imagined our modern warefare.

    • Andy, Bad Person

      Didn’t he run down an old lady in Florida because she took his parking spot?

      Well, he’s not in prison right now, so I’m going to guess…no?

      • ds

        I heard he once shot a man just for snoring too loud.

  • Simone

    I wonder what Shep think about the drones firing at the enemies anywhere they are and regardless of who these people are surrounded by….also this would be no enemies alive, no trials…Savage isn’t it! Oh Hypocrisy!
    May be torture is the better option…

    • TheRealAaron

      I’d say it’s not an either/or question and “neither” is the right answer.


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