Update on Fr. Corapi

People write me from time to time and ask me what’s up with Fr. Corapi. There hasn’t been much news since the Blacksheep Dog scheme to grift his fanbase fell apart and he disappeared from sight. After that, no longer presenting a source of danger to the flock as his cult of personality waned, I haven’t paid any attention. But people still write me now and then wondering. The closest thing to news is this little thingie that popped up, but it’s not really anything substantiated or even all that interesting. Mostly what it tells you is not anything about Corapi that you wouldn’t already surmise from his silence, but it does tell you a lot about Folk Hero worshipping conservative Catholics, in the comments. These reveal that there remains a small nucleus of worshippers of the Corapi cult who imagine that he was the Only Man on Earth who spoke The TRVTH, that The TRVTH consisted of regurgitating a few Catholic-flavored GOP Red Meat Culture War Talking Points, that Michael Voris has now taken up this mantle and is Elisha to Corapi’s Elijah, and that the basic pattern of battening on some Folk Hero to save us and lead us to the Light instead of becoming mature Catholics who learn to think with the Church and pay attention to the Magisterium (commonly known cafeteria conservativess as “the damn Librul bishops and gay cabal who persecute Michael Voris and plotted to destroy Fr. Corapi”) is alive and well in discernment-free conservative Catholic circles.

Folk Heroes and demagogues are the unpaid bills of our episcopacy’s failures over the past few decades. Their popularity is a clear sign that Catholics flat do not trust their bishops and are looking for somebody to keep them safe. It’s the same dynamic that attracts fatherless young men into gangs headed by strong charismatic figures. And it will–and has–resulted in the same sort of chaos as cults of personality form around figures who make up for their lack of knowledge (Voris) or integrity (Corapi) with certitude and command. The Church’s traditional solution to the human urge to have a cult of personality around a hero is to say, “Knock yourself out. But just be sure the object of your cult is dead and canonized.” In America, however, Catholicism drinks deep of the cult of celebrity and confuses that with the cult of the saints. Result: we keep canonizing Living Saints before it has really been established that they are saints and then we circle the wagons to defend them from Forces of Evil that often just turn out to be people saying, “Your Idol has feet of clay.”

Moral: Grow up. Stop worshipping Folk Heros. Learn to listen to the Church. And let those who adored and trusted in the Folk Hero pray for the poor soul they burdened with trust and adoration that should only have been placed in Jesus Christ.

UPDATE:  Welcome, Pewsitter Flying Monkeys!  Since the anonymous cowards at Pewsitter have ordered a little code red on me again I just thought you should know that you are in for some especially stiff competition in the Gettin’ Catty for Holy Faith competition this time.  So far, my absolute favorite Flying Monkey combox entry comes from “Sister Mary Pantsuit”, who writes, “’Great Article Mark!!’ – Me, Fr. Effeminate, & Satan”. That cracks me up good. I doubt any of you Pewsitter guys can top that.

Because nothing says “manly courage resisting the feminization of the Church” like anonymously posting as a nun.

*Do* that Dana Carvey thang, you gutsy Real Catholic!

  • Magdalene

    Just because there are (and always has been and always will be) sinners in the Church does not make me ashamed to be a Roman Catholic! The Church is still the spotless bride of Christ.

    I like Michael Voris. He is one smart cookie. Yes, he calls a spade a spade which is very politically incorrect. Many saints did the same thing. You do risk persecution in so doing that is for sure.

    I am sad about Fr. Corapi: his was a great voice for a time. And we needed it. But there is much danger in fame and even moreso if money comes with it. The legions of the enemy are unleashed against such a person.

    But for the grace of God, who knows what each of us might be. I know myself and I know I can commit mortal sin as easily as anyone, but for the grace of God.

    • http://www.thejesuschristcode.com Caesar J. B. Squitti

      It is far easier to fool people than to tell them that they are being fooled is a quote.

      With so much corruption in our society, anyone, who dares tell THE TRUTH, is prone to being attacked, black-balled, etc.

      Almost 25 years ago it was discovered that some human truths can lie, and todate ‘those’ who dare not reveal this trick of the devil have not, in particular, mainstream media; a serious example of politically incorrect it is to speak THE TRUTH, even about TRUTH.

      It has taken decades for this ‘cultural cancer’ to proliferate itself, protecting itself in our society, it will take some time before this corruption is revealed.

  • Dave

    Mark, please let it go already with Voris. You are obsessed with him. I wonder how much this has to do with jealousy. If you think he is so horrible, and you have a right to your opinion, offer up some prayers for him. But to attach him as you do is petty. So unbecoming in a man! Let it go.
    I have noticed that Voris never falls into the pit and gets into a pis__ing match with you. Can you not try to do the same?

    • Mark Shea

      Actually, I don’t post all that often about him. But Pewsitter, ever vengeful, always noticed when I do and sends the flying monkey my way (and the way of anybody who questions the Latest Folk Hero). The point isn’t really Voris. The point is the problem with Folk Hero Worshippers and the cultists (such as the anonymous cowards and bullies at Pewsitter) who promote them and send out the Flying Attack Monkeys to show up in comboxes demanding blood and telling people to shut up.

      • aquinasadmirer

        So, is your beef with Voris or Pewsitter?

        • Mark Shea

          Both, actually.

          • TJWeger

            Just say it, Mark. You want to be the latest Folk Hero!. Like Corapi, like Voris, like Chesterton, like Sheen. Except like the latter two, you think your squeaky clean! I smell narcissist. Big time. So you cut down hero worship, but that’s exactly what you want! So, you look for blood (or perceived blood)…and ATTACK. and ATTACK. And keep attacking. But you don’t get very far. The narcissist can’t stop….no worship is ever enough. You already have a following and a big head to go with it. I’m sad that you may never find satisfaction. You create your own scandal of yourself when you act this way. Humility is a foreign to you. Humility is the ENEMY!

    • Maggie Sullivan

      All it does is make Voris a folk hero!!!!

      Just kidding.

  • SisterMaryPantsuit

    “Great Article Mark!!” – Me, Fr. Effeminate, & Satan

  • Maggie Sullivan

    O.K. Mark you convinced me. I usually just watch the Vortex but now I am going to sign-up for premium access to Church Militant TV.

    After reading your article and the lame way you attack Mr. Voris I know he must be teaching good stuff.

    Come on Mark your idea that people worshp Voris is a joke. He explains the faith in a clear way – it’s just nice to hear someone like Voris who defends the Church.

    • Mark Shea

      Knock yourself out, Maggie. Take a stand against those Profe$$ional Catholic$ and, most especially, those “societal parasites” (ie “poor people”) Voris is on about. Give your money to him. Criticism of Voris is an attack on the Church. No hero worship happening here.

      • Maggie Sullivan

        Hi Mark, ??????? I have seen Mr. Voris talk about the need to love and serve the poor in the Catholic way that helps them get both physical and spiritual needs met in love and truth.

        Seems you are so full of hate and bigotry toward Mr. Voris you can’t see what is real and what is in your iminigation.

        • Mark Shea

          And I have seen him talk of the poor as “societal parasites”. His words, not mine.

          • Michael Neal

            I dislike Voris for many of the same reasons you do, but are you sure he was referring to the poor generally as societal parasites or types of people who could otherwise work but choose to live off the system?

            There are a lot of people who do live intentionally to take advantage of the system and are indeed societal parasites. They not only steal from society as a whole but also undermine the poor and sick by soaking up resources dedicated to helping those who really need it.

            I am just unfamiliar with the context of what he was talking about.

  • Stephen Phelan

    Mark,

    I’m a big fan of your writing on theology (esp. Mary, which is honestly the only thing I’ve read in print), and on your conversion. Really beautiful stuff.

    But why does this ugliness need to keep happening? You can’t keep blaming it on others. You started this with snark, showed disrespect to those who experience has taught you have followers who fly off the handle, and scandal ensues. I’m not saying you’re responsible for what others say or write, but this ugliness is entirely predictable. It’s especially unfortunate because the cult of personality thing deserves attention.

    Not having been a fan of Corapi, and being disgusted at the way he handled the accusations against him and his “departure” from the priesthood, I get that, even if I don’t get why you can’t write about the problem with more care. But with Voris, I think you’re missing an opportunity to reach out to a fellow faithful Catholic. Have you tried speaking with him? Can’t you write a careful article about what where you find him to be in error? Why not when you find yourselves in the same town buy him a beer and stop the public mockery? If you have a serious problem, write a serious article with the charity you find lacking in his work. Otherwise, you could be charged with the same thing you find in his followers, and you get this pointless everybody-loses “I know you are but what am I” nonsense that we see above.

    If you are better than this, let’s see it. A lot of your more serious writing says you are.

    • Mark Shea

      Can’t you write a careful article about what where you find him to be in error?

      Yes. I can. And have. Here and here. I have even written to defend and praise him.

      Question: were you this concerned about ugliness and scandal last September, Stephen?

      • Stephen Phelan

        Very much so. That wasn’t right and the other parties know how I felt and what I did to set it right. That’s also a good example of how someone has a fair point, goes about it in entirely the wrong way, the predictable scrum ensues, and everyone is the worse for it.

        Not being a combatant in the blog wars, I suppose I can understand how personal it gets, and how one feels obliged to return fire when fired upon.

        Michael Voris is a good man whom I’ve also approached about differences I had with a couple aspects of his approach, over Guinness, and was impressed by his response. I see that you’ve tried in your blogs, and I know that many of his followers are very, very ready to attack without making important distinctions. I think that some of how he approaches things does grow this habit in his audience. I didn’t say I disagreed with that point, or with the point you briefly mention in the post, that many Catholics want to be faithful but never hear the Truth or the truth from the pulpit, and go online looking for it, creating a market for Church Militant TV. That’s important, and I think most people overlook it. My guess is that if this were somehow miraculously not the case tomorrow, Michael would find another way to serve the Church.

        I’m saying, basically, that it would be good for all involved if you stopped feeding the beast by replying to ugliness with ugliness. You have a right to defend yourself, but how you do that matters. Your book I found in the adoration chapel on Mary was really wonderful – i would be interested in more of that. not that you’re taking orders. I would have said this in an email, but I don’t have yours, while you have mine.

        • Mark Shea

          Stephen:

          Fair enough. I appreciate your just and generous words and I thank you for doing the work of peacemaking. God bless you for it. You are a better man than I am. I will pray about what you’re discussing here.

  • Rod Hamar

    Hi Mark,
    I understand your point but it is hard to see it when it is covered up with so much venom and sarcasm – both of which I do not see listed as fruits of the Holy Spirit. You criticize Vorhis and Corapi for being devoid of knowledge and integrity, yet you do it in such an unCatholic and uncharitable way. As you know, Jesus taught us to love our enemies and treat them with charity, no matter what they do to us or say to us. Easy to say and hard to do, I know. However, we must always strive for this, no matter how hard it is. Perhaps your can bolster your arguments with facts and insight and leave the sarcasm and bitterness to those who follow the Evil One.

    • Mark Shea

      Actually, as you can see from other replies, I don’t think Voris “devoid” of knowledge. Nor, to repeat, is this discussion really about either Voris or Corapi. It’s about discernment-free Catholics–such as the flying monkeys of Pewsitter–who go around the web appointing themselves judge, jury and executioner of us Impure Catholics while whining we are mean to their Idol. I’ve already written my critiques about the dangers this cult poses to themselves and others.

      • Rod Hamar

        I see because I read Pew Sitter to get some Catholic news, then I am a “flying monkey” and sit in judgment of “Impure CAtholics”? Really? You don’t know me at all and yet you feel perfectly justified in judging me. Wow. No hypocrisy here. Keep up the judging, I’m quite sure Uncle Screwtape is cheering you on.

        • Mark Shea

          Most un-self-aware comment of the day.

  • Hammer of the Heretics

    It should come as no surprise that the insufficiently examined (and canonically speaking, inadequately supervised) life of the over-sufficiently entrepreneurial Father John Corapi, of area code 900 daily pay for pray fame, was supported by feet of clay. It’s not kind, but it is true and accurate – and easily apparent to anyone who is not living delusionally.

  • Observer

    You know Father Corapi’s departure started from his sole choice with the added choice of his superiors to butt heads so much with him that they sent him away and an injured ego (he exploited them, and they exploited him back and forth.) Father Corapi started it, then his superiors, who are human afterall as everyone ought to know for a fact and also need the grace of God as any sinner on earth needs, warranted the his actions in revolt. That is, you attract flies with honey, not vinegor (my spelling is likely off) which, sadly, they did not.

    The point is, prayer, penance, and fasting, and effication of the real supernatural grace of the Church. His superiors, I imagine and hope, are praying for him as you and I ought to. I dont’ pray for Father Corapi because of the great fanfare he gets from you or I. Rather, I hope, you pray for him as anyone else you meet along the way by which you see the terrible poverty afflicting that person’s soul. In his case, Father’s affliction is not letting go of his criminal past and not asking for the Grace of God to carry him back home into the Church. Father Corapi needs Christ in the Sacrament and needs to come back home. I pray for every person I meet along the way – and his -, and I hope you do the same.

  • Greg

    Sometimes, Mark, you are just full of it. And this is one column of yours that shows it. Absolutely ridiculous.

  • ~L~

    Yyiippeeee it’s a Fr. John Corapi(Ret.)’s conbox …err…combox!~ I’ll be the first to call ‘iz Harley cycle a hog here…’cuz it always smiles on my iminigation (Maggie’s word knock’n sour apple iMini gations?) to visualize a pig on a spit stick shift(y) shift’n the wheat from the spit schtick’s Harley hog. Yes, I do pray for this fellow – which reminds me —> I liked Hammer of Heretics’ comment Re: “…. over-sufficiently entrepreneurial Father John Corapi, of area code 900 daily pay for pray fame.”

  • Mick

    I agree with Shea regarding the pathetic hero worship that went on during the Corapi debacle. Voris and Pewsitter often come across as self-righteous, judgmental and lacking compassion – almost seeming to take enjoyment in condemning others. These are the types of people that Jesus came down on the hardest.

  • Fran

    Your update writing is uncharitable Mark. It’s beneath you.
    Fran
    A flying monkey

  • Bernie

    “Knock yourself out. But just be sure the object of your cult is dead and canonized.” Right on the money Mark. I have heard countless of times on one paticular show which airs on EWTN on Saturdays, which the hostess refers to certain guests as future saints, this just isn”t right because we are to strive to be saints and its God who makes us saints and not mere mortals. Its Gods will to let His Church know who has become a saint to interseed for us and who we should try to live like, not mere mortals. This is a culture where the media, and laymen both decide who to honour and worship and to follow and defend as saintly, while our Priests and Bishop and the Pope point to the Trinity. Yes sir Mark your right on the money.”” Moral: Grow up. Stop worshipping Folk Heros. Learn to listen to the Church. And let those who adored and trusted in the Folk Hero pray for the poor soul they burdened with trust and adoration that should only have been placed in Jesus Christ.”” Keep Flying Straight Mark

  • John Boyle

    Another NERD with a keyboard having ego envy about those who actually preach and mean something to so many…. What next damning virgin Mary for becoming a rock star? How about Padre Pio? Mother theresa? So today’s Catholic idol’s are media hounds so what? maybe if you trimmed your beard and lost a few you could squeeze in front of a camera? Untill then let the real evangelists gather the flock because you are scattering it….. So contrary to what Jesus taught. Confession is usually at 2:30 on Saturday’s

    • Jmac

      Dude, seriously, “nerd” hasn’t been a derogatory term since the early ’90s.

      And yeah, no one person is as important as the message they provide. Padre Pio and Mother Theresa both acted selflessly and through their actions pointed to Christ. Father Corapi… not so much. It’s kind of telling that you would use the Padre Pio example here since, you know, he was actually OBEDIENT to his superiors, and didn’t forsake his vows to open up Padre Pio’s Healing Hut, LLC.

    • EBS

      Mother Theresa and Padre Pio didn’t have big egos, nor did they ever talk about their past. Their purpose was their fellow man, in the present, with hooe looking to the future.

      Their following was based on their actions. ACTIONS. Not what they SAID, or rambled on about, but what they DID. They didn’t talk talk talk like Voris and Corapi. They based their Faith on ACTIONS. Because talk is very cheap indeed.

      Besides Mother Theresa and Padre Pio suffered tremendously for their faith. A true sign of a Saint. And they lived out vows of poverty true to their respective vocations.

      Harley Davidson, Gina the Personal Trainer, Bleached goatees and Lenten Cruise Holidays are not signs of sainthood (I’m laughing as I type that last line).

      Priests who have destroyed their responsibilities of being examples and leaders as followers of Christ have much to answer for- cause by their actions alone they cause many a follower tremendous damage to their sense of trust, and consequently their Faith.

      This is a very serious issue- one that Mark has every right to talk about.

  • http://otritt.wordpress.com David Reed

    Wow. Just…wow. What words come to mind…hmmm…shameful…disgraceful…On the list of problems facing the Church, I can’t help but think Folk Hero worship is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy at the bottom. Plus, only a tiny, small, fringe percentage of the folks you attack as participating in “Folk Hero” worship. The majority of those awful “conservative Catholics” that you cite do not Folk Hero worship Vorhis nor did they worship Fr. Corapi. I feel very sorry for the combox supporters of Corapi as much as I feel sorry for your excessive, overthe-top blog posting. Nuance is an art you should learn to master.

  • Mark Shea

    God bless you, John.

  • justin

    Mark after reading your comments i have to say they don’t seem very charitable. it appears you have a lot of anger within you. it seems to be direced towars other catholics probably none of them saints either. i have briefly looked at vorris and fr corapi and come accross many who are polarised in thier veiws aabout them. seems very un christ like. maybe its time to stand back and remember Jesus.

  • Seraph

    Lack of knowledge? Michael Voris is one of the best informed Catholics in America. His whole apostolate revolves around teaching the faith and doctrines of the Church. People get the wrong impression of Voris because of the Vortex, which is available for free, and the only program many see. The Vortex purposely revolves around the news, controversies, and scandals in the Church. The rest of his subscription programs are excellent presentations of the faith. There is no way that Voris and Church Militant TV is lacking in knowledge.

    • Mark Shea

      Saying, “People get the wrong impression about Voris because of what he says and does” does not immediately persuade me that he is all that knowledgeable or all that reliable a teacher. It could be that his bishop had good reason to order him to stop calling his apostolate “Catholic”. Catholics who are actually interested in paying attention to their shepherds should ponder that. Catholics who just want to uncritically listen to the latest folk hero should stay the course.

      • Seraph

        I would actually like to see the bishop make his case for what isn’t Catholic about the internet network that Voris is running that warranted a name change. Just because a bishop wants someone to drop the Catholic name, means nothing without there being a just cause and a good reason. A bishop has to make his case. What doctrinal errors were being presented on the different programs?

        • Petro

          Here’s a start:

          1823 Jesus makes charity the new commandment. By loving his own “to the end,” he makes manifest the Father’s love which he receives. By loving one another, the disciples imitate the love of Jesus which they themselves receive. Whence Jesus says: “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you; abide in my love.” And again: “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.”

          2842 This “as” is not unique in Jesus’ teaching: “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect”; “Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful”; “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”139 It is impossible to keep the Lord’s commandment by imitating the divine model from outside; there has to be a vital participation, coming from the depths of the heart, in the holiness and the mercy and the love of our God. Only the Spirit by whom we live can make “ours” the same mind that was in Christ Jesus.140 Then the unity of forgiveness becomes possible and we find ourselves “forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave” us

          2840 Now—and this is daunting—this outpouring of mercy cannot penetrate our hearts as long as we have not forgiven those who have trespassed against us. Love, like the Body of Christ, is indivisible; we cannot love the God we cannot see if we do not love the brother or sister we do see.136 In refusing to forgive our brothers and sisters, our hearts are closed and their hardness makes them impervious to the Father’s merciful love; but in confessing our sins, our hearts are opened to his grace.

          2822 Our Father “desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”95 He “is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish.”96 His commandment is “that you love one another; even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”97 This commandment summarizes all the others and expresses his entire will.

          1878 All men are called to the same end: God himself. There is a certain resemblance between the unity of the divine persons and the fraternity that men are to establish among themselves in truth and love.1 Love of neighbor is inseparable from love for God.

    • EBS

      If he wants to teach the Faith, why doesn’t he become Priest and do it under the umbrella of the Catholic Church?! Or rather why doesn’t he get married and teach his children. why can’t he do it in private, rather than in a TV studio. Abit narcissistic and 4am evangelical to me.

  • TS

    Michael Voris doesn’t teach the faith. He teaches a self-righteous distortion of the faith.

  • Gabriel Morales

    Mark, your time is up; the Catholic Church is becoming more and more conservative. I don’t know if this are seeds of Father Corapi’s or Michael Voris’ orthodxy, but whatever the case is, their position inside the Church is growing by the minute. Notice the young conservative generation filling the seminaries, except the jesuits’.

    • Mark Shea

      You seem to think I oppose orthodoxy. That, right there, is what I’m talking about: the notion that criticism of Michael Voris equals rejection of orthodoxy.

  • Gina Fire

    Wow, lots of devil happening in the comments here, by all parties, and it’s a bit disturbing.

  • jeb

    Mark Shea’s antipathy toward Fr. Corapi is astonishing to me. I don’t know what fuels his hatred toward the man. Jesus didn’t demonize sinners. He forgave them and loved them and urged them to amend their lives. I think that is what he wants us to do for each other when we fall.

    • Mark Shea

      I forgive Fr. Corapi. I merely note that he has given no sign of repentance and his fans have given no sign of grasping this.

  • Paul

    I could never get past Voris’s bad tupee… at least not long enough that I could absorb anything substanative that he was saying…..
    …..so I really don’t have anything to add to this conversation…..

    …other than I gotta go with the shrinking, bearded man over the guy with the fake hair piece.

    Hey, wasn’t Corapi bald?

    This whole thing revolves around the authenticity of hair.

  • Chris

    Whoa Nellie! Everyone pull back on the reigns of launching verbal cannon balls at each other. May I suggest that this discussion take a more civil course & the parties that disagree with each other do the mature adult thing; sit down across form each other in a spirit of love & charity, build on each others strengths for the good of the church, work on eliminating shortcomings, unite as Christ would have us unite, to build a better spiritual Army to fight the good fight the Holy Spirit calls all of us to engage in, 24/7.
    In case anyone has not noticed we are being pummeled day in & day out by forces aligned with evil, both inside the Church & from without, that are hell bent (emphasis on “hell bent”) on trying to conform Christ’s church to the unholy spirit of this age.
    Pleas keep in mind, God is not the author of confusion & words shape ideas, ideas shape behavior.

    @peace2day,
    Chris Landreneau
    Baton Rouge, LA

  • SGK

    This whole situation makes me feel very sad. It does happen. I had a sponsor who left the church just before I was to be baptized. He had seamed very committed to the church. When ever someone falls away it should be upsetting no matter where they were in the walk with Christ.

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/fabricdragon kirsten Philadelphia

    well, i see several people have said what i want to say (and likely better than i ever could) so i will simply add a few points:
    1. i only became aware of Fr Corapi as the situation was beginning (the whole scandal i mean). several of my friends apparently were die hard fans, who assured me over and over it was like Padre Pio (one of my favorites) being wrongfully persecuted. i didn’t think so at the time.
    once it became obvious that there were serious issues, i tried to reason with them that Padre Pio did not hold onto a large personal fortune, or seek publicity….and most of them took until after he vanished to conclude that he was in fact merely a flawed person, who had in fact acted wrongly in a few points, and not a persecuted Saint.
    a few of them still seem to be awaiting the second coming of “messiah Corapi”… very sad.

    2. i do not read most of the blogs, and so have very little familiarity with Michael Voris, except through YOU.. and your links.

    given those two points: while you seem to have a lot of very valid points to make, and valid criticisms, (and defenses) the TONE of your posts about Michael Voris in specific do not lend themselves to credibility.
    i think the problems are true, and credible…. but they do not SOUND true and credible… your tone is very hostile and seems quite petty.
    this may be a problem of “print versus voice” because i know that i have often re read my own posts and thought “wow that sounded harsher than i intended”…. or it may be simply that you actually do sound and feel that way.

    what started with the “i get asked about Corapi” turned quickly from a lesson on the dangers of hero worship (which needs saying! its a real problem in society, not just Catholic society) into a “why are you dragging in this Voris guy again?”
    seriously… you had NO need to mention his name in this post, but you chose to. which combined with the tone issues, just lends credence to the whole accusations of being obsessed with speaking against him.

    i would suggest strongly that you refrain from mentioning anyone by name unless it is directly relevent to the post (like being asked about someone). the whole blog about the dangers of seeking someone to “save us” other than Jesus would have been stronger without dragging anyone else into it.

  • Say No to the Wolf

    Corapi WAS and IS a ConMan .

    I often wonder how many priest use A.K.A.’S when arrested for drunk driving. Corapi arrested in 1999 for drunk driving, gave the police CORADI as his name BUT I thought his name was Father Corapi NOT Mr.Coradi ! How many priest LIE about their military record ? And why lie about how you honored your country?
    So Corapi, after ordained, is arrested for drunk driving 1999 ,not looking too good already. Fast forward a few years and we have Corapi or Coradi calling escort services. Corapi is on a fast track of women ,money ,sex,drugs and booze. Lie upon lie upon lie to those who trusted . People like to point out “ALL THE GOOD FATHER CORAPI DID” . What about all the damage the man did ? He uses women as sex objects and money to feed his addictions. What about his sexual orientation ? Straight ? No way ! Closets can be deep and bones rattle all the time. Beware of those who wear mask- the devil himself knows what we want to see EVEN when it’s clearly NOT GOOD.

    • G.

      Exactly how do you know what goes on behind closed doors? I don’t know what my closest friends or relatives spend their money on, so how would you know what Corapi does or does not do. Why do you have such an axe to grind!

  • Humphrey

    My Husband who just passed away really liked Father Corapi it was not hero worship it was basically a person who was able to explain the faith in a unique manner & never had a holier then thou attitude. My husband would always watch Father Corapi and was saddened by the whole affair. As Catholics Christian, we should pray for Fr., not condemn gossip or gloat. I suspect his popularity made many lesser known people jealous, to me the envy is glaringly obvious. God Bless You Father Corapi where ever you are my prayers are with you.

  • John King

    Mark Shea has a lot to say about the messengers and does it in a convincing way that might make him appear like a genius. The only problem is that it is not about the messenger. Talk about missing the point entirely. Just as in the early Church, it wasn’t about the Apostles. It is about the message of orthodoxy. It is a sad thing when the bearers of the message fall as Corapi did, but it isn’t about Corapi. The Vortex isn’t about Voris either. I think Mark Shea you need to consider whether your efforts are to be focused on promoting yourself as a heckler or on promoting the orthodoxy of the Catholic Church.

  • Say No To The Wolf

    Corapi is no MESSENGER !

    He never walked his talk. His disobedience to the church along with a list of unpriestly activities – means Corapi is the last person who should EVER be a messenger of anything.

    Mark Shea
    It appears the same old song and dance from Corapi Groupie Fans.I have read post his female FANS have written> EXAMPLE

  • Say No To The Wolf

    Corapi is no messenger.I could list all the reasons why Corapi is ” NO MESSENGER ” it would be easier for all to read SOLT STATEMENT. BTW – Below is just one example of what Corapi inspired from his FANS . Hero Worshipping or Rock Star Groupie = Bad News – just have a look at the post below.

    Nola Marchisella isn’t he just so Beautiful ♥
    Thursday at 1:08pm
    Nola Marchisella Thanks Amy ♥
    Thursday at 1:08pm
    Amy Ivsan I borrowed this from someone.
    Thursday at 1:09pm ·
    Nola Marchisella ♥
    Thursday at 1:09pm ·
    Amy Ivsan Nola quit lusting after the Trailer Turnip’s man! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    Thursday at 1:11pm ·
    Nola Marchisella AAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    Thursday at 1:15pm ·
    Nola Marchisella I LUV ya Amy Ivsan ♥ ♥ ♥
    Thursday at 1:15pm ·
    Amy Ivsan They will all run to bandito and say they are hot for a priest! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
    Thursday at 1:15pm ·
    Amy Ivsan Luve ya too!
    Thursday at 1:16pm ·
    Nola Marchisella They WILL!!!!!!!! ahahahhahahahhhahahhaa they Really will :))))))))
    Thursday at 1:34pm

    Nola Marchisella and Let ‘em say what they wanna..water off this Catholics back :)
    Thursday at 1:43pm ·
    Nola Marchisella Truth be Told He’s Gorgeous ♥
    Thursday at 2:34pm ·
    Amy Ivsan Yes and gorgeous men are not desperate.
    Thursday at 3:37pm ·
    Nola Marchisella You BETCHA Amy !
    Thursday at 3:40pm · 2Phyllis Whalen Seitz and Amy Ivsan like this.

  • John King

    I don’t think anyone here disagrees that Father Corapi has fallen. So what then is your point? Do you suggest we drive out to Kalispell and draw and quarter him. Perhaps you would like to personally cut out his entrails and burn them before his eyes. Jame 4:11 ” Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.12There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?”
    Your rhetoric could be placing your soul in danger. It is one thing to judge the message and quite another to judge the messenger. It is safer ground to judge the message. It is also a more intelligent approach as well as dignified.

  • John King

    Easy! I don’t know whether or not Corapi will be vindicated, but we should all pray that he will be forgiven by God for whatever transgressions he has made. In light of this, we should all be charitable to one another because it may very well be the case that we face each other in heaven. It would only add to our shame that in our particular judgement it is shown that we have been hoping for condemnation for someone who is already in heaven. Matt 12:26 “But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.” Tear about the message if you think it is worth tearing about but do not tear down your neighbor.

  • Say No To The Wolf

    What’s your point ?

    SOLT made it clear > Corapi is misleading good people ! That’s the point !
    The point is > Worshipping a priest / Preist groupie / Fan-Natic > isn’t a good idea.
    As you can see from post made by Corapi Fans > Disturbing.
    Intellegent/Dignified > Sounds like ( Drum Roll Please ) > Sweep it under the rug.
    No thanks !

    Mark’s assesment is right on target.

  • John King

    Corapi is gone. He has off the grid for two years now. He doesn’t even have media hounding him like O.J. He might be misleading some folks in Kalispell but how would you know? He might be in the process of repenting. If you are Catholic consider that it is Lent and know that “There but for the grace of God, go I.” Sounds like you still want to take that drive out to Kalispell.

  • Say No To The Wolf

    Let’s hope he stays off the grid.

    What the B.S.D. inspired in his > Fan-Natics / Priest Groupies is > alive and well.
    Perhaps one day MESSENGER CORAPI will come forward and tell his > Fan – Natics / Priest Groupie Fan Club > the TRUTH ! What a concept.

    Good luck on your drive to Kalispell.

  • John King

    Have a great Lent.

  • http://Www.catholicalcoholic.com Number 9

    Mr Shea I find you very funny. I am late to the game and understand you’ve been blogging for years. I sometimes have to read your stuff twice (must have killed too many brain cells in my past life) but you’ve got this quick wit about you that’s so funny. Anyways, I will keep reading and I agree with you about father Corapi and the cult of personality. I loved him too! He had an addiction story which seemed to help a lot of people. And true our Bishops were not giving us much leadership back then. But it seems the Bishops are coming around and it’s good for the faithful when our idols fall because it forces us to remember who is really King. That’s all.

  • A.B.

    Mark Shea, and his posts like this, are the reason I stopped giving money to EWTN. EWTN should not have bought NCR.

  • Say No To The Wolf

    @ A.B.

    LOL!

    Let me guess.I bet you would give EWTN money if > Con Man Corapi was on air.

    Glad you stopped in to read Mark’s Stuff.

  • Say No To The Wolf

    Below is yet ” MORE ” idol worship thinking from Corapi ” Fan-Natics “. It is apparent the woman who wrote the post below >has COMPLETELY disregarded S.O.LT. and the Catholic Church. Also ” SANTA CRUZ MEDIA ” no longer exsist > it’s gone. Why would someone encourage Corapi and his Personal Assistant ? BTW >Why exactly would a priest have a Personal Assistant > A women > Young > Unmarried ?


    Juliette Girouard
    SANTA CRUZ MEDIA—–FATHER, the month of March is here..I can’t fathom the pain and the suffering you have been living for the last 2 years because of lies and vengeance…I am so so sorry that you have to live this every day…May heart aches for you ..I wish I could erase the last 2 years but I can’t..You have been spit on, laughed at, made you walk the road of Cavalry carrying your cross and then crucified…You are on the cross with your MASTER..But knowing you, you have offered it up…We can only offer for you our prayers which are storming heaven..May God hear us and bring your VINDICATION DAY closer…KK, thank you for having been there for Father..You are also in our prayers…FATHER AND KK, may your week be surrounded with God’s blessings and love….Have a beautiful week….In your traveling BOTH of you, be safe and careful….You are BOTH in my prayers….FATHER, you are so miss and love…..♥♥♥
    Like · · 21 hours ago ”

    This post can be found >

    http://www.facebook.com/VindicationForFrCorapi..

    Makes one scratch their head in wonderment.

  • http://www.DSDOConnor.com Daniel O’Connor

    I will pray for you tomorrow, Mark, at Mass, and afterwards, when I am on my knees outside the local abortion mill. I feel you will be needing it. Please do not clench the fist when God deems it the right time to humble you.

    In Christ, through Mary,
    Daniel

  • Dominic.

    Last I checked Sloth was a mortal sin. Ie societal parasites. There are poor and then there are lazy huge difference! Go voris

  • Dominic.

    Btw I’m a fan of corapi and do not “worship” him. In fact I’m insulted by your suggestion. Remember his hands are consecrated to bring you Jesus. I recognize Father is behind enemy lines right now and probably being sifted. Doesn’t change the fact I love him and am grateful for all the truth he spoke about Jesus! Pray for him. I also have never heard Michael Voris utter any falsehoods.

    • Say No To The Wolf

      So you are a Fan > Well break out the champgne by golly !
      You may not worship Corapi but > there are plenty who do > unhealthy.
      I’m grateful he was exposed and found > no longer fit to minister.
      While you pray for Corapi > why not pray for those he has lead down the wrong path AND > for those who have been hurt by his unpriestly behavior.

  • Dominic.

    Maybe you think the Sandra Flukes of society are not parasites but I beg to differ. What’s sad is my kids will foot the bill for her birth control and abortion and future mental health treatments

  • http://quietconsecration@blogspot.com Leslie Klinger

    One question: Who the he#* is Michael Voris?

    Oh and one comment; for some reason I thought of Father Corapi today. I rarely think of him but he popped right into my mind during my mid day prayers. I did some asking and some googling and found these updates. For some reason, I feel like he needs our prayers today. So I am asking for some help, sending my Guardian Angel and sitting quiet for a bit thinking about all the good that was done, and how fast it all fell apart.

    Hope you are having a JOYOUS Lenten Season, my friend!

    • Petr Stemkowski

      I likewise thought of him today, God be with him. Googled his name just to see if there was any news — lo and behold, this page.

      What a fetid swamp, this “Catholic” blogosphere.

  • Greg

    They must have something very incriminating to keep him totally silent. People want a strong church with vigor and authority. Unitarians and protestants will always do a better job of being unitarians and protestants than Catholics. I for one am against a mandatory celibate clergy, but also oppose modernism and want the Latin Mass.

  • Annie A

    @Say No, How do you know what Corapi’s sexual orientation is? He’s supposedly living with his girlfriend. The man is in need of some serious prayers…as are we all!

  • Annie A

    @Say No, How do you know what Corapi’s sexual orientation is? He’s supposedly living with his girlfriend. Are you saying he’s bi-sexual?The man is in need of some serious prayers…as are we all!

  • Tom

    I too was drawn here today because I was hoping to hear some news about Fr. Corapi. Whatever he fell into, Fr. Corapi preached the teachings of the Catholic Church and presented them in a way that brought me back into the fold. I spent countless hours watching his catechism talks saying “after 12 years of CCD classes why didn’t anyone ever tell me THAT?” I am a better Catholic today thanks to Fr. Corapi and I pray for him now. Pray for Fr. Corapi, pray for our new Pope Francis, pray for all of our priests, bishops & cardinals, pray for each other.

    • TJWeger

      Tom, I pray for Fr. Corapi as I do for all priests I know. His work profoundly influenced me to be the God fearing Catholic I am today. He fed my intellectual hunger with Christ at a time I needed it. And I will always be grateful that God worked through him to reach and teach me so much. Period. But watch out…you and I will be called Folk Hero Worshippers by mark Shea because we only want to know how and what happened to such a gifted one-of-a-kind inspiration! Of course, I don’t worship Fr. Corapi . I worship the Christ that came through him. Nevertheless, mark Shea anything is the last place you should turn to for sincerity and factual updates on Fr. Corapi. He has and continues to spew hate-filled garbage about the man and appears to know squat little else than any of us. He wants us to believe he does, but that’s all theater. His actions on the matter have been shocking. He seems devoid of any compassion regarding the man who Christ used to reach so many fallen or weak Catholics. Look elsewhere, my friend.


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