Strange Bedfellows

So here’s a WaPo story about a bunch of women getting together to play “Vatican”. It’s a board game designed to teach you how conclaves work, just in case you want to know.

It’s funny to me because I’ve actually corresponded with the creator of the game, Stephen Haliczer, a smart, serious Catholic. He is, I reckon, very far theologically from the woman featured in the photo essay:

Kate Childs Graham reacts as she makes a breakthrough in the game to become the next pope. Childs Graham was raised Catholic; she went to Catholic University; she and her partner, Ariana, were married by an ex-nun; and their toddler, Asher, was baptized in a Catholic church.

I’m not sure how that baptism worked, but then I’m not up on how the Church is wrestling with kids resulting from gay “marriage”. My guess is there is a lot of variety in how pastors come to grips with that. Not being a pastor, I wouldn’t know.

Still, I reckon Stephen will be pleased that the game is getting some use.

  • Blog Goliard

    Whenever I see or hear the phrase “was raised Catholic”, I instinctively dread whatever is to follow.

    • ivan_the_mad

      I’d say that your instincts are quite sound.

    • Hezekiah Garrett

      It ranks right up there with “was an altar boy”.

    • Stu

      “I even had a blessing from the Pope…”

    • Julia

      Or “went through 12 years of Catholic school”

      • Garth

        Sister, you just said a mouthful. That one makes me cringe Every. Single. Time.

  • bob cratchit

    “I’m not sure how that baptism worked, but then I’m not up on how the Church is wrestling with kids resulting from gay “marriage”. ” -Indeed. A few years ago, in Georgia our 6 year old daughter told us about her new friend from CCD class, “Haley”. Each Sunday we would her her talks about class and “Haley”. Then one Sunday, we casually asked about “Haleys” parents and she stated that Haley doesn’t have a dad, she has “two mom’s”. Well after some casual and concerned observation we noted that this sweet and adorable little girl indeed attended Mass with two women and what appeared to be a sister. Now we didn’t know everyone in that fairly large parish. We still don’t know how that priest came to grips with that situation. We do know that he was fairly liberal, in that he supported women priests (by his own admission), hinted at approving of abortion and evidently had no issues with Obama. In spite of all this we had to come to terms with it ourselves. Not knowing who or where to turn we drew from our own prayers and reflections that we would treat this little girl no differently than any other child. Pray for the situation and make no further assumption about the childs ‘parents’. After all, we didn’t know the full details and didn’t ask either but it was very awkward. Reckon the Chuch likely has to deal with these situations very pastorially in spite of Her teachings.

    • Hezekiah Garrett

      I once had a friend rased by “2 moms”, moms who founded the local gay newspaper. He was as normal a guy as he could possibly be. Folks can’t help who their trippy parents are. I’d be hard pressed to say no to baptising a child because of her family’s lack of formation of conscience.

      I thank God I am a simple layman.

    • Beccolina

      I suppose that, from a pastoral perspective, a gay couple living in a “marriage” with children and attending church would be similar to a hetero couple living together without marriage with children and attending church. Hooray, they are at church! But there is some work to be done there. I can see that the gay couple would be touchier to approach, perhaps, because it is such a hot-button issue, and the solutions would be harder. The difficulty for the parents in either situation, if they are serious about raising the child within the Catholic Church, is that children get to a certain age and begin to ask questions. When they become old enough to ask, “Why aren’t you married? GOd and the Church say you should be married.” or “Why are you in this relationship, which we are taught is sinful?” The parents can either own it, or teach their children that the Church is wrong.

  • Melissa

    I’ve encountered the story of Kate, Ariana, Asher, and the ex-nun before in the last few weeks. I guess she gets to be one of the media’s go-to people on how the Church is so disenfranchising. Don’t know what you need to do to get that status. Wish that more people who are Catholic and enjoying it would be interviewed and quoted, though.

    • Beadgirl

      “Local Catholics perfectly content with their Church” doesn’t sell papers. Reminds me of when my mom was complaining about a newspaper article about a misbehaving priest, and why couldn’t newspapers print articles about the good ones, My father teased her by pretending there was a story about a priest who was very nice and helped old ladies cross the street and never did anything wrong.

      Setting aside any bias a particular journalist or editor might have, people behaving well is not “news.” Which, I guess, can be seen as a good thing — you know, people behaving the way they are supposed to is an ordinary, common thing, not unusual enough to merit reporting.

  • Garth

    Huh. When I played Vatican, it seemed to very obviously be pushing an agenda, and an unsavory one at that.

  • Tim Jones

    “I’m not sure how that baptism worked, but then I’m not up on how the Church is wrestling with kids resulting from gay “marriage””

    Just a minor quibble, Mark; “kids resulting from ‘gay marriage’ ” = 0.

    A null set.


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