“Conspiracy theories are history for stupid people.” – Kathy Shaidle

Discuss.

  • Alexander S Anderson

    That’s just what the New World Order Masonic Illuminati Vatican cabal wants you to believe.

  • An Aaron, not The Aaron

    I’m suspicious of your request for commentary on this issue and believe you have ulterior motives. Plus I don’t think Kathy Shaidle is a real person, and frankly, I’m beginning to have doubts about you.

    • chezami

      I see what you did there. :)

      • James H, London

        You’re not the only one! The Walls have ears*.

        *that’s why I won’t buy their ice cream

        • Margaret

          Eeew! Who wants ice cream with ears in it?!?

          • James H, London

            The same people who made Bertie Bott’s Everyflavour Beans… remember Dumbledore’s unfortunate find?

    • James H, London

      genius…

    • Dan13

      Hmm, if you look at “Shaidle,” what do you notice? First, conspiracy theorists expose those who keep a “lid” on the truth. So, let us remove the “l,” “i,” and “d.” What are we left with? An “S,” an “h,” an “a,” and an “e.”

      An easy rearrangement of those letters leaves us with “Shea”! The truth is out. Mark is Kathy Shaidle!

      (actually, I think I tried too hard and ruined your joke, but whatever . . .)

      • Sam

        Brilliant! Mark is exposed!

      • An Aaron, not The Aaron

        I like the way you think. I’ll subscribe to your newsletter if you subscribe to mine.

      • Francisco J Castellanos

        Well done gentlemen! Only sheep and dupes of the NWO will make fun of your conclusions and fail to heed your warning.
        And now that you mention it, if you take the title of this blog: “Mark Shea: Catholic and Enjoying It! There is an obvious secret code: Take the first two letters of the first word (Ma), the first letter of the second word: (S) the fourth and seventh letter of the third word (on) and the ending of the last word (!) What do you get? MASON! Yes, indeed: MASON!
        Mr. Shea is obviously a Mason, which explains his defense of Pope Francis.
        Further proof: if you add the numbers corresponding to each of the letters in “Mark Shea” 13 + 1 + 18 + 11 + 19 + 8 + 5 + 1 What do you get? Seventy six! 76!
        In 1976 the following movies were released: “The DEVIL’s Playground” “Shout at the DEVIL,” “To the DEVIL a Daughter,” The DEVIL’s Express” and (gasp!) ” THE OMEN!”
        You should draw your own conclusions, but it seems pretty obvious to me…

  • UAWildcatx2

    Black pope! BLACK POPE!1!1!!

    • Dave Waite

      We have the first!

  • meunke

    CHEMTRAILSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

  • James H, London

    ECHELON!

    There, that should link back to your masters at the NSA… ;-)

  • kirthigdon

    Some theories are stupid, but a conspiracy is simply two or more persons planning or acting in concert to do something evil. This goes on all the time and there is nothing wrong with having theories about it. It just depends on the theory. People who don’t believe in the existence of conspiracies usually argue either that bad things just happen or that they are the result of vast “historical forces” which negate any human agency. And I think Kathy Shaidle is a real person. In any event there is someone who writes under that name fairly regularly for Takimag.
    Kirt Higdon

  • freddy

    Oh boy.
    I really hate to interject a serious note into all the fun, but this is a subject that strikes a little close to home for me. You see, I know someone; someone I care very much about, who has been prey to various conspiracy theories. This person is extremely intelligent, clever, well-read and often wise, but I think sometimes too apt to look for patterns where there are none, and too apt to see malevolence where there is only stupidity and selfishness. Looking at the world this way can have a profound and negative effect on the soul. I’d have to disagree with Kathy Shaidle on this one, and warn that as tempting as it is to be dismissive of this kind of thinking, if you actually interact with people who believe conspiracy theories, tread carefully and compassionately.

    • WesleyD

      Agreed. I think that the first chapter of Chesterton’s Orthodoxy describes it best: the person deeply enamored of conspiracy theories is more likely to be extremely intelligent, but he either lacks a certain amount of common sense or he doesn’t realize how most other people’s actions are not the result of deep, careful thinking.

      Of course this, too, is a generalization with many exceptions — but I suspect it’s true more often than Ms. Shaidle’s generalizations.

    • Eve Fisher

      Agreed. I used to work at a courthouse, and we had our full roster of people who came in to “chat” – including wacked-out conspiracists. They’re fun, until you hear what I heard. Right after the bombing of the Murrah building by Timothy McVeigh in 1995, one of them came in and talked about how it was a declaration of war against a tyrannical government (Bill Clinton was president at the time), and as such it was a legitimate use of force. I asked what about the children who were killed in the day care center – the innocent victims. Nope. “There are no innocent victims. War has been declared.” And then he looked at me and winked. “You could be next.”

      • kirthigdon

        How is what your acquaintance said a conspiracy theory? A declaration of war against the US government is pretty much what McVeigh intended. And McVeigh was the leading conspirator himself in the OKC bombing, with three known co-conspirators and perhaps a few others who either got away or went to prison for other crimes. Your acquaintance’s problem seems to be that he sympathized with a conspiracy, not that he believed in the existence of one.
        Kirt Higdon

        • Eve Fisher

          Because he believed that the bar codes on the backs of road signs were actually there to let the UN black helicopters know where to go to pick people up and take them to the concentration camps set up in the backwoods when the New World Order took over the world, which was coming any day, and that they were coming to get him, which is why he agreed with McVeigh and had no problem with what he had done. He believed that the Jews were responsible for all the financial problems of the world, and that all liberals were Jewish agents, knowing or unknowingly. He fervently hoped that every word of “The Turner Diaries” would be fulfilled. He was a conspiracist.

  • http://www.parafool.com/ victor

    That’s just what the so-called “Smart People” WANT you to believe.

  • ChGPe

    That may be true most of the time, until it’s not. Afterall, Operation Northwoods was just a nutty conspiracy theory, until it was revealed to be true.

  • HA

    The Wannsee Conference — in other words, the Nazi’s “final solution” — was a conspiracy theory, and reputable historians have no trouble believing that happened. Paradoxically, those who do doubt it are insatiably fond of conspiracy theories of their own.

    Come to think of it, much the same can be said of the 9/11 attacks. The official explanation is by its very nature a conspiracy theory, whereas those who doubt that explanation peddle a much grander conspiracy.

  • Irenist

    People generally prefer agent-based explanations for historical events to structural explanations. Since history is a mix of both human agency and socioeconomic forces, it’s an understandable temptation to overweight the role of human agency. Some of the people who succumb to this temptation are dumb, some are smart–even obsessively brilliant.

    • Marthe Lépine

      And some might even turn out to be correct in the end… I think that we have heard of so many cover-ups nowadays that it is not necessarily a bad idea to have some doubts once in a while. Before Snowden’s leaks, would we have said that someone coming up with some weird conspiracy theory about governments spying on people was crazy?

    • kirthigdon

      Socioeconomic forces are simply the result of human agency.
      Kirt Higdon

  • Dave Waite

    Jimmy Akin offers some common sense on ………******* C O N S P I R A C I E S.

    http://tinyurl.com/jimmyisnokook

  • Paxton Reis

    The moon landings were filmed in this studio:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE

    Mind you the footage in this clip is of another celestial event.

  • said she

    “What difference at this point does it make?”

  • Loretta

    Let us postulate logically. If stupidity is rampant, it is highly likely that, eventually, more than one individual will have the same stupid idea. If two people find the same stupid idea, it’s a union. If three people find the same stupid idea, it’s an organization. And if fifty people a day find the same stupid idea, it’s a movement. Persons opposed to the movement, who may be equally entranced with a stupid idea, will call it a conspiracy. (Apologies here to Arlo Guthrie.)

    Or, take the divergent viewpoint. History is a bunch of guys sitting around copying a bunch of other guys. Not a conspiracy, but a lack of original thought?

  • http://redcardigan.blogspot.com/ Erin Manning

    Most of the time, the thing that I wonder about conspiracy theories is just how we’re supposed to believe that all those OTHER people (the ones in the know, that is) are so good at keeping secrets. And not just any secrets, but earth-shaking and sensational ones…when most of the time even harmless secrets about surprise parties and whatnot are nearly impossible to keep.

    That said, I don’t think observing that there is a Ruling Class and that all our political parties are belong to them is a conspiracy theory–I think it’s just rather obvious. Sadly, I find it hard to believe that they all work together to run things; I think they reluctantly collude when necessary to increase their personal wealth while keeping their unsatisfactory relatives employed in Congress or on various environmental boards, and that sort of thing. ;)

  • MClark7

    Mitchell and Web have funny skits about conspiracies. Here’s one about faking the moon landings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

    OTOH, as for keeping a secret, eight thousand people worked at Bletchley Park during the war, helping to break German codes. They didn’t talk about their activities at all for decades.

  • Pavel Chichikov

    “No, there are no conspiracies. We know everything. There are no mysteries. We know everything. We are afraid of the dark, so there is no darkness anywhere.”

    Not every conspiracy theory is wrong. Not every secret has been disclosed.

  • Pavel Chichikov

    Corollary: Not everyone who disagrees with you is stupid.

  • tj.nelson

    The Beatles promoted abortion.

  • M.T. Chair

    Here’s an expose of some Traditionalist conspiracy nuts: Popes Pius VII, Leo XII, Gregory XVI, Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius XI. Take a look:
    http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/conspiracy.htm
    Also, Bl. Anna Maria Taigi, St. Vincent Strambi, Bp. Fulton Sheen, and others. Crazy!

  • Sam Schmitt

    History is conspiracy theories for smart people.
    Discuss.