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  • Zelda Szabo

    I could’ve predicted how the rest of the article would read if I didn’t make it past the first two sentences: “Here is an anal­ogy, to begin. When I was a Protes­tant…. “

    • chezami

      Yes. Reactionaries do hate us filthy Protestant converts. We’ll never *really* be Catholics. In fact, it’s a huge mistake for the Church to seek converts at all. We just muck up Fortress Katolicus and bother the Perfecti. It would be better if the Church just stopped evangelizing and kicked out everybody but the Perffecti.

      • James

        Mark, I’m a convert too, and I protest both your and the author’s uncharitable use and abuse of strawmen. Do you honestly think your snide and mocking tone will do anything to bring in converts?

        • chezami

          He didn’t attack strawmen. He remarked on an all too common reality.

          • chezami

            That’s because my *point* is that most people don’t distinguish either. When the face of atheism is these kind of heartless jerks, *all* atheists suffer in the court of public opinion. And so (to repeat) my suggestion to good atheists is to clean their own house.

            My rhetoric is designed to get the attention of a subculture that is full of people so absolutely certain of their superiority that they can’t hear people over the sound of their own awesomeness. When people are deaf, said Flannery O’Connor, you shout.

            • http://hjg.com.ar/ Hernán J. González

              Wrong thread, I gather?

  • Bill Toelstedt

    I see a tinman not a strawman. As a convert myself, I try not to inject my own experience into a discussion. At least not as my first and primary argument. In the end, no one should care