Gay Woman Donates $20 to Pizzeria

…that this has to be described as a “bold stand” says all you need to know about the intolerance of the mob that tried to destroy the owners of that business.

Her explanation is common sense itself:

“My girlfriend and I are small business owners, and we think there is a difference between operating in a public market space and then attaching the name of your business to a private event,” she said. “Like, if we were asked to set up at an anti-gay marriage rally, I mean, we would have to decline.”

A lynch-mob-free society is a free society–and that’s good for gay people too.

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  • Joseph

    Good for her. Proving that the gay mafia movement is full of intellectual dishonesty.

    • kenofken

      But the Christian manufactured martyrdom movement is just overflowing with honesty…a social media campaign to raise a million dollars to fix a grievous economic harm which never happened and was never going to happen. Hopefully this brave woman’s $20 will finally put them over the top and they can survive one more week against the Gay Mafia blockade!

      • MarylandBill

        And your proof that this was a “manufactured martyrdom”?

        • Alma Peregrina

          He doesn’t need proof. He’s one of those tolerant guys.

        • kenofken

          The proof is the utter lack of any actual or even probably martyrdom. The pizzeria owners incurred no fines or legal costs from refusing to serve gays as they never actually were involved in such a scenario, and even if they had, Indiana has no anti-discrimination laws which include sexual orientation. They offered (or were goaded into) their opinion on a pure hypothetical of what they might do if they were ever put in the position of catering a gay wedding (something they are at essentially zero risk of ever being asked to do).

          They made a million dollars for offering an opinion which was unpopular on social media for a few days. I’m pretty sure that’s not how actual martyrdom worked in ancient Rome or present day Syria.

          Despite this lack of any actual harm, the martyrdom myth was manufactured and played to the hilt by the conservative culture war machine. It’s still being spun as a cut and dried martyr tale right here, even though none of the facts of the story support it. The tail wagged not just the dog, but the entire anti-SSM movement.

      • ManyMoreSpices

        I will agree that Memories Pizza would have suffered no long-term financial harm. The online rage mob would have gotten bored after a few days and moved on to figuring out which other possible witch weighs the same as a duck, because that’s what online rage mobs do. Memories would have been back to being a small-town pizzeria in a fortnight.

        But arson threats are serious business. And that happened.

        You may not know that the fundraising campaign was not started by this restaurant. It was started by people who didn’t like the way the owners were being treated by the online mob. And the donations weren’t about enriching those folks. It was about sending the message that the attempt to destroy this business through internet outrage would not stand, and would have the opposite effect. It’s a cautionary tale for the next time that the cultural left mob considers coming out with torches and pitchforks.

        • MarylandBill

          And how many businesses can just afford to close for two weeks? As far as I know, most small businesses operate on slim margins and their owners frequently work 12-16 hour days, seven days a week to make the business succeed. Closed doors for two weeks might well put the business in a hole it can never recover from.

          • Mike Petrik

            This. My late father-in-law owned a small grocery in a small town. He was open 6 days a week 52 weeks a year. Aside from a single vacation, he closed the store for a Saturday afternoon three times in several decades — for his daughters’ weddings. The vacation was one weekend. MarylandBill nailed why.

        • kenofken

          It’s a cautionary tale for the apocryphal P.T. observation about a sucker born every minute. No, the donations were not intended to enrich the pizzeria owners to the extent they did. They were intended to rally the tribal identity and fighting spirit of culture war conservatives who know they are losing the larger fight. As a former political journalist, I have to say it was a pretty clever and clearly successful maneuver. It has no grounds in reality, but perception is reality in politics.

          In reality, the pizza controversy was a minor sidebar. Indiana wasn’t about trying to destroy a restaurateur in a backwater town. It was about the cynical and underhanded attempt to exempt LGBT citizens from any basic civil rights claims in the future. The threat was to isolate the state economically, not to single out some poor pizzeria owner who had no real role in the big picture policy decisions.

          • ManyMoreSpices

            The threat was to isolate the state economically, not to single out some poor pizzeria owner who had no real role in the big picture policy decisions.

            And they did this by…. singling out some poor pizzeria owner who had no real role in the big picture policy decisions.

            Not really seeing where you’re going with this.

            • kenofken

              Where I’m going with this is that an existential threat to the the pizza place existed nowhere in ordinary reality. It exists purely within the spin of the religious right. No basis in facts, but it was the right narrative at the right time and with enough creative retelling, it had “truthiness” if not truth.

              The economic pressure was at the top of the food chain. The boycott was about Fortune 500 CEOs threatening not to bring business and jobs to the state and the potential loss of major conventions from Indianapolis. The way you get Republican lawmakers to bend is to have their corporate paymasters lean on them, not to “make an example” of some random 100-pie-a-week pizza joint in the outback of Indiana.

  • wlinden

    She is quoted as saying that “the gay community” is characterized by “living according to your beliefs”. How can it be a matter of “belief” when they keep telling us incessantly that it is “not a choice”?

    • BaltimoreAubrey

      Well, there are many gay people who live in the closet and who engage in deceitful heterosexual marriages. To be open does require an element of choice and confidence.

  • This culture is going down the pan, and the legal validation of so-called same sex marriage is a symptom of a dying society. That’s as nearly as I can make it a cold prognosis.

    US replacement birth rate, 1.9. Families disintegrating. Slow death. What comes next is the triumph of a morbid power.

    • Newp Ort

      but how would gay marriage effect birth rate? I don’t think you mean gay people should be “toughing it out” in heterosexual marriage and reproducing, do you? Do you mean some sort of chilling effect on marriage and society as a whole? Or do gay marriage and low heterosexual birth rate both stem from something else? Say a general devaluing of human life?

      • It’s symptomatic.

      • MarylandBill

        The point is that our culture’s entire view of marriage and family is being corrupted. Birth Control, abortion, “no-fault” divorce, artificial insemination, surrogate parents and now “marriage equality” are destroying the natural linkage between sex, marriage and children.

        • Newp Ort

          But how to reduce those things? The cats out of the bag, you’d have to reverse freedoms that have been granted.

  • Joseph

    Meanwhile in Ireland, as the referendum for same sex marriage nears, the counter argument to the ‘NO’ campaign is getting more likes than the ‘NO’ campaign point. Apparently, if you think that a child has a right to be raised by his/her biological parents, you have a closed mind.
    A ‘NO’ poster states the following with an image of an infant:
    ‘Surrogacy? She needs her mother for life, not just for 9 months.’ – the point obviously being that a child has the natural right to be raised by his/her biological parents.
    Some vandal posted a poorly written sign just below this one that states:
    ‘Down with this small minded shite’.
    Amazing, the amount of thought that went into such a cogent refutation. It’s so stereotypical.

  • Newp Ort

    Her analogy is not exact – businesses will still have the right to refuse service on some ideological justification. Rufusal of service in that case is being opposed to the white supremacist ideology. Refusing service to gay marriages based on the ideology that such marriages are immoral will no longer be allowed.

    I’m sympathetic to the poor bakers and florists and caterers; but I’m not losing any sleep over them.

    • uhhh… businesses are currently being fined and punished for refusing service due to an ideological justification. And gay people declining to participate in a anti-gay-marriage rally has nothing to do with white supremacist ideology.

      • Newp Ort

        Yeah I messed that one up. Sorry, making too many dumb analogies at once.

        But yeah I understand that ideology is being punished.