Comments on: Veil your lollipop http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/ Looking at Muslim women in the media and pop culture Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:20:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: SHAME ON YOU: SHAME CARTOONS « BASIC FACTS ABOUT ISLAM http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1417 SHAME ON YOU: SHAME CARTOONS « BASIC FACTS ABOUT ISLAM Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:35:46 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1417 [...] a multitude of them out there, with the most recent being the “Veil your lollipop” ads, featuring a covered and uncovered lollipop—with the latter surrounded by flies and with [...] [...] a multitude of them out there, with the most recent being the “Veil your lollipop” ads, featuring a covered and uncovered lollipop—with the latter surrounded by flies and with [...]

]]> By: Shame on You: Shame Cartoons « Muslimah Media Watch http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1435 Shame on You: Shame Cartoons « Muslimah Media Watch Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:03:15 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1435 [...] a multitude of them out there, with the most recent being the “Veil your lollipop” ads, featuring a covered and uncovered lollipop—with the latter surrounded by flies and [...] [...] a multitude of them out there, with the most recent being the “Veil your lollipop” ads, featuring a covered and uncovered lollipop—with the latter surrounded by flies and [...]

]]> By: ME Faith - Middle East Interfaith Blogger Network » Blog Archive » Muslimahs are watching you http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1434 ME Faith - Middle East Interfaith Blogger Network » Blog Archive » Muslimahs are watching you Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:00:35 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1434 [...] all media that affects Muslim women, and Muslim countries’ media is no exception. When the “lollipop campaign” popped up in Egypt, we were right on [...] [...] all media that affects Muslim women, and Muslim countries’ media is no exception. When the “lollipop campaign” popped up in Egypt, we were right on [...]

]]> By: Muslimahs are watching you « Muslimah Media Watch http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1416 Muslimahs are watching you « Muslimah Media Watch Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:07:53 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1416 [...] all media that affects Muslim women, and Muslim countries’ media is no exception. When the “lollipop campaign” popped up in Egypt, we were right on [...] [...] all media that affects Muslim women, and Muslim countries’ media is no exception. When the “lollipop campaign” popped up in Egypt, we were right on [...]

]]> By: maysoon http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1415 maysoon Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:52:39 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1415 Yes, this is a disgusting way to make a point!! (If men are "the flies" then maybe we should treat them like we treat flies!!!!) But please we should try to be more understanding of this argument. It is not just bad and good. As Egyptians we have to look hard at the real issues. If you want a good understanding of this topic, see two articles from Arabs in Europe (both men!). Khalid Diab, Egyptian writer in Brussels and Faisal Al Yafai, Lebanese writer in London. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/03/egypt.gender http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/16/religion.gender Yes, this is a disgusting way to make a point!! (If men are “the flies” then maybe we should treat them like we treat flies!!!!) But please we should try to be more understanding of this argument. It is not just bad and good. As Egyptians we have to look hard at the real issues. If you want a good understanding of this topic, see two articles from Arabs in Europe (both men!). Khalid Diab, Egyptian writer in Brussels and Faisal Al Yafai, Lebanese writer in London.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/03/egypt.gender
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/16/religion.gender

]]> By: Muslimahs are wathcing you - Mideast Youth - Thinking Ahead http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1433 Muslimahs are wathcing you - Mideast Youth - Thinking Ahead Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:57:09 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1433 [...] all media that affects Muslim women, and Muslim countries’ media is no exception. When the “lollipop campaign” popped up in Egypt, we were right on [...] [...] all media that affects Muslim women, and Muslim countries’ media is no exception. When the “lollipop campaign” popped up in Egypt, we were right on [...]

]]> By: Forsoothsayer http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1432 Forsoothsayer Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:11:00 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1432 but it's only men who are asked not to wear gold and silk. i was under the impression that this is because "tashaboh bil nesaa" - likening oneself to women. but it’s only men who are asked not to wear gold and silk. i was under the impression that this is because “tashaboh bil nesaa” – likening oneself to women.

]]> By: Duniya http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1431 Duniya Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:36:00 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1431 ilyas:I see what you're saying but even the things you have mentioned can be rationalized.Gold and silk: So as to not show off wealth and so make oneself equal to all others. It is way of discouraging "luxurious" living. Regardless, this is not in the Qur'an but rather Hadith. Beard: It is not a commandment but rather Sunnah. I believe it is an attempt to emulate the Prophet. Men may or may not chose to follow it. ilyas:I see what you’re saying but even the things you have mentioned can be rationalized.Gold and silk: So as to not show off wealth and so make oneself equal to all others. It is way of discouraging “luxurious” living. Regardless, this is not in the Qur’an but rather Hadith. Beard: It is not a commandment but rather Sunnah. I believe it is an attempt to emulate the Prophet. Men may or may not chose to follow it.

]]> By: Ilyas L. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1430 Ilyas L. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:19:00 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1430 <b>Duniya:</b>JazakAllah khair for your response.Definitely there are different perspectives on how to approach/understand one's religion.That said, there a number of fiqh rulings for which there is no logical explanation. Among them are the majority of ahkam related to external appearance, such as the prohibition of gold and silk for men, the command to grow a beard, etc.<b>I need my Sisters, where are You?:</b>Islamic law, like any other law, requires a certain level of expertise. No rational person would "wing it" in a civil or criminal court based on their intuitive understanding of the law.Similarly, one shouldn't try that with religious law, which is at least as complex and in which errors can be far more serious.So yes, Islam (submission) is about submitting and better to do so based on the advice of those who know. <i>Ask those who know the scripture, if you do not know</i><b>[Quran 16:98]</b> Duniya:JazakAllah khair for your response.Definitely there are different perspectives on how to approach/understand one’s religion.That said, there a number of fiqh rulings for which there is no logical explanation. Among them are the majority of ahkam related to external appearance, such as the prohibition of gold and silk for men, the command to grow a beard, etc.I need my Sisters, where are You?:Islamic law, like any other law, requires a certain level of expertise. No rational person would “wing it” in a civil or criminal court based on their intuitive understanding of the law.Similarly, one shouldn’t try that with religious law, which is at least as complex and in which errors can be far more serious.So yes, Islam (submission) is about submitting and better to do so based on the advice of those who know. Ask those who know the scripture, if you do not know[Quran 16:98]

]]> By: Duniya http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/07/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1429 Duniya Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:14:00 +0000 http://muslimahmediawatch.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/veil-your-lollipop/#comment-1429 ilyas:I can appreciate your view on Islam but personally, I believe Islam is about logic. Everything God has told us to do is for a logical reason. To me if it does not make logical sense then it is not really a part of Islam but rather an innovation. This is my own view of Islam, as it is of many others. So yes, God tells us not to eat pork but not just for the fun of it but because it's not healthy. God says that Muslim men must get circumcised, again not for the fun of it, but rather for hygiene reasons. Therefore, when it comes to covering one should know the reason behind it and use the logic presented to decide whether it makes sense for oneself or not. anonymous:I'm sure you're aware that those exact verses have been interpreted in different ways. They do not specify that a woman must cover her head therefore an interpretation that hijab is not mandatory makes complete sense using those exact verses. Therefore, there was no need to present those verses nor to debate the issue. ilyas:I can appreciate your view on Islam but personally, I believe Islam is about logic. Everything God has told us to do is for a logical reason. To me if it does not make logical sense then it is not really a part of Islam but rather an innovation. This is my own view of Islam, as it is of many others. So yes, God tells us not to eat pork but not just for the fun of it but because it’s not healthy. God says that Muslim men must get circumcised, again not for the fun of it, but rather for hygiene reasons. Therefore, when it comes to covering one should know the reason behind it and use the logic presented to decide whether it makes sense for oneself or not. anonymous:I’m sure you’re aware that those exact verses have been interpreted in different ways. They do not specify that a woman must cover her head therefore an interpretation that hijab is not mandatory makes complete sense using those exact verses. Therefore, there was no need to present those verses nor to debate the issue.

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